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I pity you NSP and I know these xoxos boys represent like 0.1% of what NSP really is but it’s just sad… having these people to be the voice of NSP in the official forums… geez
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SBI I dont know if really happened but yesterday before patch kicked us from wvw I think you guys were rushing yaks hills with golems if I’m right… geez that is just bad luck :/ lucky for us thought!
Sigh… you guys keep dodging the bullet…
I’m done… just silly talk
Sorry if any yakr or nsp feelt offended or uncomfortable with my statements (except for xoxo, of course) and to that zerg who wiped at our tower I’m sure you guys are trying to learn and that is something to respect or maybe you are new to the game cuz of the trial but as you can see people fail to generalize and it happened to me u_u and others for sure lol, I’m sure you have nice people over there <3
See you on the battlefield
again… my bad! I couldn’t resist :/
Everyone tries to compete with xoxo and friends.. and yet no one can take them down. too cute
You guys cant outroll them outsmart them or outplay them. just stop you guys embarass this game
Oh you still here… I have an idea why don’t you go post that video of yours under WvW Discussion just to see how people react to it? XD pretty please!
Hey! just a warning… don’t get your expectations too high!
Come on! time to show off your pr0z ubb3R sKillzZz!!!
@ arty boy.. just because you can’t kill us. Doesn’t mean we run bunker spec. Let the arrowcart cool down for a week or two and learn the game.
Bunker..lol……..L2p ..
OMG continue to answer in this way XOXO, so hilarious!
10(bunker) v 5 such a fair game & l2p issue but when you get wiped by a zerg you call it “1 smashing”….
You people are like the living irony hahaha
But its okay, keep living inside your small bubble of self-righteousness, you’re that kind of kid who still feel special and different! oh you shiny spark <3
Yes we run 10 bunker spec groups. We choose our teams from the 199 people in the guild we have on at any given time. We also spend all of our spare time flash building superior balistas in the open feild. If you don’t have the + supply traits you can not group with us. If you dont have ++++ to siege you can not group with us, if you don’t have 3k armor and 28k hps you cannot group with us. We only pvdoor, we see real PvP we hide and man the arrowcarts. We use 3 groups at times for super tough yaks. If we get frisky we really push the limits and attempt to bind our keys and play without clicking.
There you go arty boy. I finish your story. lil zergling , enjoy!
Nah I think XOXOs rotation goes something more like….
“We sit at SW sentry and camp we wipe some uplevels…”
10min later the same
20min later the same
“we place some siege in fail spots” (killed by bay siege)
“we still camp uplevels”
“we move to cap more camps”
“go to N camp.”
“we wipe”
“we gone”
the joys of being a scout is that I have a really good idea of what is going in all the map kid ^ ^ but that’s okay, invent whatever you want, kinda hard to burst that ego bubble of yours anyways
You guys should really start a new WvW concept… camp rushers!
Hide yo kids hide yo wife cause XOXO is comin’ 4 ur camps!
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@ arty boy.. just because you can’t kill us. Doesn’t mean we run bunker spec. Let the arrowcart cool down for a week or two and learn the game.
Bunker..lol……..L2p ..
OMG continue to answer in this way XOXO, so hilarious!
10(bunker) v 5 such a fair game & l2p issue but when you get wiped by a zerg you call it “1 smashing”….
You people are like the living irony hahaha
But its okay, keep living inside your small bubble of self-righteousness, you’re that kind of kid who still feel special and different! oh you shiny spark <3
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Lol Obsession you really should stop bunkering with that mega 15k hp… Honestly l2p Obsession quit hiding behind your bunker mesmer.
You should ask MEX about our 5v5’s last night that each ended in under 30 seconds.. Also ask them about the lvl 24 XOXO Ranger who beat their 80 necro in a duel…
Oh and if you want some 1v1’s I’m sure there are plenty of XOXO who would be glad to put their tbag where your mouth is.
Oh and @chris —-- LOVE YA!! Miss ya here on NSP!
I’m lost and am I supposed to be a mesmer called Obsession or I have an obsession for something?
oh and tbag? THANK YOU now I have a better idea of XOXO hahaha
Anyways I should answer you with the same language level….
Guys me haz neu game mode in which I’m l33tz! 33v33!!! noobzrs no one can beat us!
Now this is what I acknowledge as “recording for fun” lol, man now that I think of… I wish I had recorded yesterday’s NSP fail, 25 NSP against 10 of us in a T2 tower and they all died at the gate haha it was epic
Me too, it woulda been super fun to watch you stand on an AC. You must be really good!
Oh yes it was! but sadly I only dropped supply crate & engi bombs at the door and boom! you’re dead but now I regret it… so many bags missed sigh… if only I had been on an AC…. oh wait nvm I still got a lot of bags <3
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Yesterdays jazzy jazz goin down. I love watching the other servers ketten-talk but fail to back it up. Ignore the badness in this vid.. I forgot how to theef obviously
Yea…. because everyone is very egocentric and we have this “weird” need & urge to record ourselves to show it off lol
Wow Danny must be like the first person to ever record himself playing a video game.. How very “egocentric” of you Danny, you must be a horrible person.
yup the thin line between sharing and showing off
Fun video of [One] trolling around, starring our morning crew.
You NSP guys are persistent as all hell!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JoVA0UL385Y
Now this is what I acknowledge as “recording for fun” lol, man now that I think of… I wish I had recorded yesterday’s NSP fail, 25 NSP against 10 of us in a T2 tower and they all died at the gate haha it was epic
F5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5
Now you should learn something and actually include your failures
but I guess you gotta eat, ego ego ego ego nomnomnom
Ill bite ole Arty boy,
Watching some of both videos. Dannys video shows reaction and skill vers other players. you have to think as you fight and know what your fighting or you fail.
Chris’s video shows nothing more then stacking up and mashing Aoe’s inside of mobs of red. Not caring what the situation is or reacting to nothing, just MASH MASH MASH.
Im not even sure i understand how people play this way. I like to read and react to people trying to use different builds and strategy’s in a smaller scale setting.
Step away from your zerg, you will learn your class and be a better player for it.
that is all , ty.
Haha because I zerg a lot buddy… you seem to know me very well! I think you missed where I said 10v25 thought…. or maybe just ignored it for convenience? oh well who knows…. but yeah the thing is that I have enoyed killing most of xoxos in wvw seems like you guys can only hold in bunker groups, so please don’t come here and act like you’re really skilled xD that is just hilarious when it comes to 1v1 you are awfully bad you are way to dependable of your bunkers builds….. but hey! in the end you guys manage to cap camps…. attaboy!
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Yesterdays jazzy jazz goin down. I love watching the other servers ketten-talk but fail to back it up. Ignore the badness in this vid.. I forgot how to theef obviously
Yea…. because everyone is very egocentric and we have this “weird” need & urge to record ourselves to show it off lol
Wow Danny must be like the first person to ever record himself playing a video game.. How very “egocentric” of you Danny, you must be a horrible person.
yup the thin line between sharing and showing off
Fun video of [One] trolling around, starring our morning crew.
You NSP guys are persistent as all hell!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JoVA0UL385Y
Now this is what I acknowledge as “recording for fun” lol, man now that I think of… I wish I had recorded yesterday’s NSP fail, 25 NSP against 10 of us in a T2 tower and they all died at the gate haha it was epic
F5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5
Now you should learn something and actually include your failures but I guess you gotta eat, ego ego ego ego nomnomnom
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Yesterdays jazzy jazz goin down. I love watching the other servers ketten-talk but fail to back it up. Ignore the badness in this vid.. I forgot how to theef obviously
Yea…. because everyone is very egocentric and we have this weird need & urge to record ourselves to show it off lol
Video editing is fun. This game is fun. Killing people is fun. Being outnumbered is fun. Sorry i like to play the game and show various scenarios that i get involved in. Oh wait im not sorry at all, you are just mad.
Yea me mad >:( RAWR, but somehow I wonder who is really mad :P ah well.. I’ll just wait for another video of yours after seeing your server fail bad ;P
By the way I bet you were the last 20 min refreshing this topic just to see if anyone answered u hahaha
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Yesterdays jazzy jazz goin down. I love watching the other servers ketten-talk but fail to back it up. Ignore the badness in this vid.. I forgot how to theef obviously
Yea…. because everyone is very egocentric and we have this “weird” need & urge to record ourselves to show it off lol
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I once spent 10 min in a fight against D/P with my D/D then I got bored and left lol
I do enjoy reading when people complain about 2 spam when D/P is just a spam rotation like a D/D ele lol but all I have to say if is that…. if you keep running away and spamming snares then I will for sure spam 2 on you…. at least until steal or shadow step cd is over lol….
My opinion…
Try it yourself.
That’s the joy of the game.
Experiment.
What makes stealth stomping far superior to stability/block stomping is thakittens repeatable every few seconds whereas Stability and Blocks have huge cooldowns, need utility slots and are usually needed for combat.
The difference is that you can stop a stealth stomp, you can’t stop stability/invulnerable stomps.
You cannot waste those abilities exclusively for stomping whereas thieves can stealth stomp any time all day long.
By this comment I can tell that you’re the kind that only sees his 2ndary skills and utility skills as a defensive set, I encourage you to see decent videos of all classes and how to use them offensively ^ ^
Just give it a look to any of the profession sub-forum and find a decent uploader, like Osicat(Mesmer), geez gotta love that portal stomp
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Can you do 20v20 in sPvP? No? Enough said.
when did you people decide GvG is where you fight 20v20 or 15v15?
Did you people consider all the balance factors? Are you guild wars 2 designers? No? Enough said.
if they ever reintroduce GvG where you fight 8v8 I hope you guys don’t complain about it, this is just a mini-game mode made by the community I really don’t consider it GvG at all…..
I’d personally say: smaller groups -> worse balance.
Seriously, the class balance in this game from a competetive view is really, really bad (condition dmg for example lol). So people found out that using the direct combat system and the already in-game COMBO system is a lot of fun AND evens out the playing field on the balance front for a bit. The thing is, you need more people for that.
8v8 is the weirdest number you could ask for(except if you really want highlander mode). Not even the combo system could get used to its full potential.
So why not use the things that make the game fun?
Yea I’m only using the old gvg as an example because there’re a lot of factors to consider, i.e. I don’t think everyone out there can play 20v20, and I don’t think anet is going to release a game mode just for people with fast connections, that alone would bring a lot more complains for em lol
All I’m saying, if they ever introduce this, do not have high expectations to be like what you guys are doing right now….
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Can you do 20v20 in sPvP? No? Enough said.
when did you people decide GvG is where you fight 20v20 or 15v15?
Did you people consider all the balance factors? Are you guild wars 2 designers? No? Enough said.
if they ever reintroduce GvG where you fight 8v8 I hope you guys don’t complain about it, this is just a mini-game mode made by the community I really don’t consider it GvG at all…..
I direct you to point 7.
Still not answer my question, if they reintroduce gvg 8v8 will you be ok with it or not?
I will just add a 9 point…
9. Is it fair that we ask for a totally new game mode and maps? well if they don’t we will just keep doing our thing
Let’s be honest… I cause a queue in bls because a few want to play a community mini-game and we want to have our special place to do it…. yea…
I’m the living proof of GvG screwing with queue, everyone hates it but still that never stops guilds from doing GvG or am I wrong?
This is one of the reasons of why I left JQ like 6 months ago (when they had more Zerg vs Zerg guilds), I got tired of these selfish guilds taking space and not letting others enjoy the game as well
Most of your points are mere subjective excuses that don’t apply to everyone but what you’re doing is a fact that affect others
It would be like asking for a candy and until you don’t get it you will keep crying and sadly this is how most of ZvZ’ers are…
I really hope that Anet comes up with a solution because I do understand the anger of some posters here, because lets be honest you are not helping that much with this issue :P the way you guys ask for things is just wrong….
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Can you do 20v20 in sPvP? No? Enough said.
when did you people decide GvG is where you fight 20v20 or 15v15?
Did you people consider all the balance factors? Are you guild wars 2 designers? No? Enough said.
if they ever reintroduce GvG where you fight 8v8 I hope you guys don’t complain about it, this is just a mini-game mode made by the community I really don’t consider it GvG at all…..
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LOL seriously SOS show some class setting up siege at our spawn in your BL when you outnumber us 3:1 just shows how bad you really are.
If SoS is bad for farming you guys. Then how bad are you for letting us farm you at your own spawn?
kitten .
Oh sweet irony….
LOL Well I had respect for YB… Now they are just camping with siege at the spawn in their borderlands and still giving us bags… you guys are horrible.
NEED MOAR LISTAS!
http://i43.tinypic.com/24exelg.jpg
lol
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Knock Knock YB Come out and play!
If you can get past us to the camp, we give you 1g.
I remember this… didn’t you guys last like only 10 min over there? lol
So much fun I guess…
So who was the commander in BP that said if Yak doesn’t finish third place, he/she will transfer? :P
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Aeros reminds me of this.
Oooooooh so that’s what they meant by “you had awoken the beast”
Ok THAT makes more sense…
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In general I mean keep our profile protected.
Will this be implemented at some point in the future?
Sorry I couldn’t find a better forum to post this.
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God, YB is as bad as BP with hiding in the towers. Almost an hour in their BL and I couldn’t get one person to actually duel me. Always gotta be 3:1 or better. One guy of higher rank than me actually hid inside a camp, behind the guards of all things. Wouldn’t come out and play, so I walked off, went in a big circle, came back, and capped it anyway. I am disappoint.
I honestly don’t understand why people bother playing the game if they aren’t going to PLAY THE GAME. If you’re in WvW, you obviously enjoy PvP so why are you making the NPC’s do the work for you? Or why wait until you outnumber the enemy to attack? If you don’t enjoy using SKILL to beat players, go back to PvE where you can gang up with your group and auto attack a mob to death.
Don’t even bother Dan.
Some friendly advice.
:O so that’s why BP is mad nice! lol
I wonder how many people have been pvd’in our BL
It’s fun we put such a bee in your pants though. Haha
+1
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EB warriors… whats wrong with you guys….. “I’m running away and I don’t care about my buddies” come on! show some kindness with your people
geez….
I mean those who played at yaks bl…
Anyways it was fun to chase you all around with my ele hehe
When I “run” it’s either because I see no point in fighting a 30 man zerg and/or because I want to see how many zerglings are willing to die one at a time because they string themselves out following me. I managed to dismantle a group of seven like this a couple of nights ago.
Good Job! but still… you run away and don’t help your people and that says too much about sportsmanship :P that’s why I admire guardians they stay till the end!
It’s actually fun if you think about it…. I remember warriors used to complain about thieves hit & run tactic on forums and now they’re just doing the same XD
Note: I don’t play guardian or warrior my main is mesmer :P
EB warriors… whats wrong with you guys….. “I’m running away and I don’t care about my buddies” come on! show some kindness with your people geez….
I mean those who played at yaks bl…
Anyways it was fun to chase you all around with my ele hehe
To gank with basilisk venom and fail miserably or to bait 1 person into a group of 5+ ???
I play thief from time to time too but I don’t need to outnumber my opponent 500%this is normal from what ive seen of yaks. they cant win normally with 1 or 2 so they send in zerg types and claim that it is not the reason for doing so.
Yes because everyone is running a build to do 1v1… I spend most of my time pulling small groups of GoM’s and Kain’s to Yak’s zergs, let’s be clear WvW is not for 1v1 so stop trying to hide behind your self-righteous mask lol, you’re just like everyone else out there ^ ^
Granted it is my fault for chasing a thief for basilisk venom me and his failed gank but CMOOOON yaks bend… 1v1 and it always ends like this photo.. Kain atleast has a set of balls and 90% stand thier ground and fight out a 1v1 but yaks? aaarrrgh.
Aaaaah! the typical naive 1v1 person… gotta love em, is because of people like you that I keep rolling my thief from time to time, thank you <3
ah the glorious HzH!!! best JQ guild :P I’m glad that you still running in WvW, all I see on forums is how awesome & famous you guys & girls have become, keep up the good work!!!
I’ll keep an eye on you guys ^ ^
BTW do not hesitate to join this guild you won’t regret it
Art Requiem
Thief’s combat efficacy resides in 1v1. We can take that for what it is. I merely attempted to demonstrate the application of thief’s niche to the broakitten icture of WvW.
I’m still waiting for a rational answer to my question above regarding individual skill in a zerg because I’m confused. I’m struggling to see the individual contribution any class brings to the table vis a vis wvw. Collectively, you make one solid group. Individually, you have disadvatages. The reverse is true for thief. That’s all I’m saying.
I dont zerg so I wouldnt know. Only ever been in small roaming guilds.
Someone has been owned by thieves too much…
I should thank all of you for living up to my expecations. I never really expected a serious discussion. Part of me wanted to see how quick it would turn into a thief-hate thread. Looks like less than a half hour.
A point of curiousity though. When you are running with a spec group or zerg, aside from commanding the zerg, what actual skill does your role require? That’s sort of the discussion I was trying to generate. When you have 30-40 people with you all doing the same thing, you individual talent level is essentially non-detectable. If you aren’t with your crew and get killed, then you got killed. Deal with it. OR you can work on your individual skills and try to counter it. It is possible.
It’s not important though. Continue with your complaints. I recommend you get a few bunker guardians in here to lambast the boon stripping. I haven’t heard one of those in a while.
Eventually any new thief will find their roll in WvW, I play mesmer, ele, thief and engi and I try to adapt to every situation by switching between my chars, is not that hard to figure out which one will adapt better for X situation…. I personally like to only down as many people as I’m able to and run around playing cat & mouse because like you said there is so much hatred toward the thief that I take advantage of that :P
What I can tell you is that…. thief is the most awesome scout class I love spamming map chat haha
Translation: We don’t know how to play, so when we face GOM we roll with 15 v 1 odds or better. What’s a cool way to say we just toss out more players to make up for zero skill? How about we are “organized”.
Yaks bend has lost a majority of their ‘organized’ guilds. There are only a few remaining that run 15+ people, and that’s generally at night time for around 2 – 3 hours tops. So yes, PUGS will always lose vs organized groups and would need the numbers to succeed that of the organized guild. You are facing a server full of PvE and PUGs.
I beg to differ, yesterday an organized Kain guild, which I can’t remember, make it through Hills N gate in Yak’s BL, I was rolling with my mesmer and as soon as they broke in I followed them…. like if i was one more person in their zerg, they went on the right wall, where you can place catapults, when they stopped I casted all my shatter skills with clones and somehow they drew back, I was able to spread a lot of damage, after that they went to the left side on top of N outer gate I had a chance to use curtain to pull 5 people from the wall and most of them were heavy classes letting us finish most of their forces while others were trying to come back 1 person is able to do a lot of damage against well organized groups if you seize every opportunity you have.
As well I was rolling on my thief yesterday, I don’t if it was GoM or Kain, they were sitting on top of SW camp entrance, as we were running over there I was able to jump in the middle of their zerg and cast Whirling Axe (Steal Skill), omg so much fun, they were all confused and couldn’t see where the damage was coming from so they drew back down behind the entrance XD zergs are very easy to scare!
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At some point you’ll have to stop using this broken excuse and realize that your server isn’t as amazing as you thought it was.
Ditto
Anet please let us know that at least you’re aware of this problem!
I had like 2 crashes in less than 10 min just happened again 5 min ago
Everyone in WvW is complaining on game crashing every 10 min, can we have any information on this?
Great GvG last night against RAM from Yak’s Bend.
Final Score: ME: 3 RAM: 0
RAM were very respectable and honorable opponents. Very organized as well. Although the fights may not seem really close, I believe RAM has a lot of potential to become really good open field fighters. Who knows, maybe we’ll have a rematch someday.
And yes, I was the person who dropped the magic find bonfire. Hope nobody got offended by it or anything, it was all in good fun. I had to do something, after all, I am from Maguuma.
I’ve seen RAM around in Yak’s, I’ve actually spent some time following just to see how they play and I can tell you they could have had a better match against Me.
I’ve come to known their weaknesses, one of them is lack of variety when it comes to classes, by this video you can actually see it, but that’s what I like from them, I’m pretty sure they learned a lot from it, they are really humble when it comes to commanding, not knowing where to drop siege and asking pugs or anyone who could know where it could be the best place to drop X siege, they still a small guild but I’m sure they will become really good and some of them just need to be more patient with pugs XD
I moved to Yaks like 2 months ago and I come from JQ, not trying to be a kitten, I am just giving my opinion
By the way RAM I’m that wierd mesmer (Paradise Circus) who is always following you in EB, even when you’re not commanding and running as a guild xD
why you people insist so much on this? stop thinking in your small world, we have noobies who go into wvw with lvl1 alts which can kill em in matter of seconds, I can’t imagine how many had a second chance because of downed state, it helps A LOT to those who are learning the basics or what… you wanna remove non 80’s from wvw too? but what a really muses me is that the so called ‘pros’ wanna remove this from wvw well then… I thought you guys said you were pro :P deal with it, shouldn’t be a problem if you are amazingly pro,
I see a lot of people intrigued about ascended stuff being added to WvW traders, but I’m quite more interested if we will see runes and sigils in WvW too? I can live without ascended stuff but not without my runes! so any heads up on this will be appreciated!
I don’t know if this was asked and answered before so excuse my ignorance!
What I love of mesmer is that it will give you headaches but as soon as you master it.. it will give you lots of fun XD, go for it!
Upscaled lvl 35 can deal the same damage as a lvl 80
No.
you just want to play AC in GW2 don’t lie <.<
Well I do play a mesmer and usually port a lot of people in EB…. I actually agree that somehow it breaks jp mechanics but if we actually compare it to other skills we are seeing a lot of game-breakers, if we are removing portals from jp we should remove any leap or stealth skill too, all of those give you a huge advantage in eb jp, the enemy could have 30+ camping the jp but I always manage to bypass that defense with my thief really easy so my point is that if we remove portal from jp’s we will be seeing posts against stealth, speed buffs and leap skills in jps.
The only solution to me… it would be to remove jps from WvW xD
Just wondering…. why we are not able to push illusions from the edges? I do understand why we can’t do this with npcs but I don’t think this should apply to illusions… at least in WvW lol
I don’t know if it happens the same with any kind of summon or pets but everything that is controlled or summoned by players should be “pushable” don’t you think?
So everyone could just roll a gc build and kill things in 5 seconds or less! :P
The game in its current state is not balanced that way, you’re not looking at the big picture, you have low lvl ppl who jump into WvW too, downed state is really great help when you’re playing with a new toon, all classes damage output would need a rework, implementation of rez skills (I think we currently we have 2 classes with rez skills) what I mean is that there’re so many factors to consider that would not be so easy to implement it, you might think that is not that hard, but IMO… class balance its strongly attached to the downed state
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The one thing that can definitely be said about maguuma, is that not in any of the weeks that we fought them did 1 person ever complain about nightcapping. Yak’s folks just don’t seem to understand how wvw works unfortunately.
Generalization.. the common mistake of a rookie :P
Wait… if this is supposed to motivate animal cruelty shouldn’t yaks be removed from WvW too?, just a thought…
When makeover kits came out I thought this could be implemented later, but I think since you pick your story from the beginning and your storyline is based on that and race it would take a lot of work for developers to remap everything
Come on Anet! show us some love and tell us if this could be reintegrated in the future :P
Doesn’t look too bad, but I’m guessing the issue here is that the launcher is a bit more convenient.
Yup I know, thats why I would like to have the option to switch back to this login screen leave the current one as default