Guild Wars 2

Kidel.2057:

Hounds of Balthazar is pretty useful if you are a solo player. As a guardian with a buffer/dps build, i find that having a couple of allies i can buff is pretty useful. they also deal way more damage then any other guardian alite, and also more then the mistfire wolf (that i also have and i think it’s quite powerful if you can’t use the hounds)

Yeah but as a necro, and only as a necro, I find myself not ever using any racial. I have wells or staff spells that can do most of what the other skills can do. Condition transference is a breeze with putrid mark, and i actually have a great area weakness combo with that spell, so the condition racials are obsolete. The healing racial has nothing on well of blood, and the elites get over shined by lich form and even flesh golem. If i really needed to buff my team, I’d out my spectral grasp to well of power or something, but never a racial.

I’d love to use them, but they just suck for me T-T

I do not know if this has been fixed or not, but there is this one boss in CM exp mode that is just… annoying is the best words to describe him. I believe he is an engineer because of the rifle and the knockback skill he is using, but I could be wrong.

You choose the butler path, you go into the next area, he is there with 3 lesser versions of himself.

Before first death: we rushed him, we wiped. that’s to be expected lol
Before second death: I found out his non-cooldown existence on his knock back. 4 knock backs and you have to waypoint. He kept me, someone who wasn’t even attacking him or close to him when it started, perma-knocked down until I died.

It probably took 6-8 deaths on that guy just to get past him. Then the hallway afterwards with the flame turrets/riflemen.. and the riflemen at the end of the hallway.. it was so hard to get past that, but we did.. it was the rocket turrets at the next part that we all just rage quit at. why? that’s because we lost a guy, had to go out of the instance(only I did) and then when we got a new guy, couldn’t get BACK INTO the instance..

That was my first exp mode experience. sucked.. but I’ll probably do it again.

Johnny Whoa.8126:

Gotta agree. The humans got royally screwed over on racial skills. Prayer to Dwayna is actually my WEAKEST healing skill, the Avatar of So-and-Sos seem pretty useless, and while Hounds of Balthazar is pretty awesome, the recharge time is obscenely high for how briefly they last. They either need to last longer or recharge faster for them to be worth using, I’ve found.

It makes me wish I’d chosen almost any other race for my Ranger, but I’m too far in now to turn around.

yeah I’m usually torn between lich form for epic reasons(scared off a norn that used a racial elite on me once in WvW with just lich form lol) and flesh golem mainly for the fact that it last’s SOO long due to the regen it has after battle, and the cd feeling like nothing because of that.

I just bought hounds last night, yet to try it, bought it for the sheer fact of not having to buy it later.. -.-

Zahmahkibo.6375:

It doesn’t bother me that the racials are pretty weak. I do wish they were more interesting, however. The elites and Prayer to Lyssa are fine, but Prayer to Dwayna and Prayer to Kormir are just incredibly dull skills that aren’t fun to use. Compare those to the heal and utilities of other races. Summons, positional skills, party buffs, Charr and Asura even get combo abilities.

The point of racial skills doesn’t seem to be power, but flavor. What these abilities say is that norn are the wilderness race, asura are the technology race, sylvari are the plant race, charr are the military race, and humans are the Ned Flanders race.

Gods and plain vanilla.

I seriously lol’d at the Ned Flanders bit xD then I sighed because it’s so fricken true..

I’m currently looking at my new Asura’s slot skills list and there is no racial healing skill..

Is that a mistake or no? Also is there racial healing for other Asura professions?

zao.2710:

I actually unlocked the avatar of Grenth on my necromancer, and after using it once (literally) I never used it again. Maybe it was my mistake that instead of checking how this particular skill works I decided to unlock it straight away. I hoped it will be something more like the avatars from GW, and boy was I upset when it actually turned out to be less powerful combo of Plague and Death Shroud.
I really feel I wasted those 10 skill points. It would be nice if the avatar at least looked cool…

exact same reaction I got when I grabbed that skill in the beta. =[ haven’t grabbed it since.

Ashodin.7604:

Thanks man. I think the state of the racials for Humans is really abysmal. I would like in general racials to be stronger overall – comparable and unique to other skills, but not overpowered. I mean, why not? They can only be used in 1/3 of the game anyway, why not make them unique and awesome? I understand the Elites are cool, but they are on a huge recharge.

racials can be used in WvW and PvE, which I believe is 2/3’s

But yeah, I completely agree with you there.

McWaffle.1927:

ArtemusHunter.9521:

necro so op in that map man.

Well. It is a graveyard.

lovin it haha forever alive! I use your set up too staff/scepter+warhorn. just work really well together.

whats your trait setup?

That was a well centered build but I was missing most traits due to them not saving. wells should of been ground targeting, dodges should of been dropping blood marks.

Recently been toying with something new. this is the 60 req. points IMO left 10 out as they can go alot of places.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fQAQNBIhZaESrWvTzXjeLBI9Iaqne6B3gHOA;ToAgzCmouxcj4G7Nubk3sCZEC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7xtZSUqu_o

I have a suggestion for that last 10 points. curses. you get the chance to cause bleeding when crit, and if you trait it, you can cause aoe weakness/bleeding with enfeebling blood, or chilling darkness because your using shadow fiend, where the chill(which also affects the enemies skills CD) could possibly help you get the last skill out before they have a chance to get you.

just a thought lol

Jericho.4258:

ArtemusHunter.9521:

Pazernus.9273:

i dont see why anything would have caps…especially magic find…

and just to clear it out abit how magic find works.

it stacks just like any other stat, not sure if there is cap or not. but its not -solid increase to the % it self". so if you got 50% magic find, and item has 2% drop, it does not mean its 52% drop, it means it increases this 2% chance, by 50%, thus making it 3% drop.

so your 100% drop would basicly mean double drop rate in this case

double drop rate is good still that clears things up ty

Having 100% Magic Find doesn’t mean you have 100% droprate, or that you will always get something.

If a creature you are killing/farming has a 2% chance to drop rate on any item, say for example, a Vial of Potent Blood; 100% Magic Find means that you now have 100% higher chance to get a drop. Which 100% on 2% makes a 4% chance to get a Vial of Potent Blood.

All your doing is increase the percent drop rate of what a creatures loot table is by the percent you have.

There is no doubles, it just means if you and I are farming and you have 100% Magic Find and I have none, you are, statistically going to get twice as much as me.

yeah.. i got that from the last person who I quoted. double of the drop rate %. I understood that from what they were saying.

yeah.. i got that from the last person who I quoted. double of the drop rate %. I understood that from what they were saying.btw, you also at the end of your message basically said I’m going to get double the items as you if you have none, and I have 100%. Doesn’t that kinda basically describe ‘double drop rate’? At 100%, even if its turning a 2% to a 4%, that’s still technically double drop rate, is it not?

Just pointing this out.

Ashodin.7604:

@Mizorie: One skill does not make the rest of the racials appealing, though. They need work, especially to make people think about using them instead of regular abilities.

And another point I’d like to make: other races have the options of using these in their builds because they bring unique things to the table – however, the human racials are so bland and uninteresting that the majority of humans use only one. My Asura and Sylvari friends use theirs in place of others, it’s really annoying to look at my racials and not even want to buy them.

I propose these racials get revamped:

Prayer to Dwayna
(Just a heal at 30rc? Not very strong at that? At least give us or allies regeneration when used.)

Prayer to Kormir (Kormir was the new human god of Justice. this should be some sort of Smiting spell instead of a condition removal.)

Prayer to Lyssa (This one is decent, 12rc with random conditions and boons. The only problem I have is that it’s kind of weak – the boon and condition disappears right after use. Perhaps have a dual nature to it? Press once for three boons on yourself, Press twice to swap your boons to conditions on a target? It would fit the nature of Lyssa very well.)

That prayer of lyssa idea sounds really awesome. Before I read it I had an idea as to have it be like a signet of lyssa or something. But what you described actually sounds like the better half of plague signet, so chances are that wont happen because then everyone that’s a necro human that uses plague signet in their build would swap to that, and these skills are supposed to be less strong then the normal skills.. hmm..

Kratic.8763:

Yeah i was disappointed at the lack of Grenth look – although for a 2nd option, the black plague look is pretty sinister as well.

I pretty much see that elite as a fake death shroud and lesser version of the necro elite: Plague; which is by better for kiting and applying conditions..though i guess that makes sense since the racial elites are supposed to be underwhelming in comparison to regular ones..

Acaelus Thorne.3862:

Well this is where it get complicated from the last game the Gods left for good, so no more Avatars of them. why do the human even have Grenth, and Melandru Avatar.

I did not think of that. In that case, I would want them to maybe change the names or change the skills.. Maybe ‘Shroud of Grenth’ and…..something for melandru.. lol

Razor.9132:

After reading this thread I’m really happy I am not the only one who feels our racials are a bit of a lackluster.

Now, while I’m not bothered by elite skills at all – quite on the contrary, I find them really nice regarding the “rule” that says that racials should be underwhelming compared to at least of the most of profession skills and are only there for personal preferrence/flavor. Also to add that ALL the other racial skills have at least few scenarios I’d be glad to use them in.

The real human racial skill problem I feel starts with our non-elite skills – Prayer to Kormir, Prayer to Dwayna and Prayer to Lyssa. I can’t think of any scenario where at least one of these three would be useful to take and I would love to see them get some attention, at least Prayer to Dwayna – all it does is heals you. Every profession has 3 healing skills that are better than this one. Sylvari racial Healing Seed, which heals, applies regen to allies and acts as an aggro breaker if times get a bit rough, is absolutely awesome compared to ours. Add a special effect to this existing skill or completely revamp it. Maybe calls down a spirit of dwayna that applies a minor health shield for to allies? (which would move it to utility skills from healing skills).

I remember trying that dwanya heal.. i think it does more at lower levels, but is no where worth using higher up.. for a necro i pretty much stick with well of blood since its healing is awesome and you can combo with it.

As for the ult racials, the only one I found useful was the one that removes conditions.. and that’s not even remotely useful anymore for me since I sorta work my way to getting conditions on me on purpose.. -.-

lol i have been, i bought 100 peach tarts the other day.

Pazernus.9273:

i dont see why anything would have caps…especially magic find…

and just to clear it out abit how magic find works.

it stacks just like any other stat, not sure if there is cap or not. but its not -solid increase to the % it self". so if you got 50% magic find, and item has 2% drop, it does not mean its 52% drop, it means it increases this 2% chance, by 50%, thus making it 3% drop.

so your 100% drop would basicly mean double drop rate in this case

double drop rate is good still that clears things up ty

i realized after i posted my last comment that all the gods are there.. idk.. i still think an avatar of balthazar would be better lol

if thats true, im currently at 79-80%(79 being when i have my staff equipped). as soon as i hit level 70 though i will be at 100+

which raises another question. Does it cap at 100%?

we need something similar to *spoiler**spoiler**spoiler* the avatar of balthazar from that story line in the priory story. that thing was fricken epic and a lesser version of that would be nothing if not awesome. cmon, its the only god were really missing.

yeah i understand that. like i said, the one with the 3 condition removal seems a little useful. not enough to keep it on my bar most of the time, but useful if i know im going to be up against a ton of conditions(that is until i realized how my fourth staff spell works lol)

Just the other races seem to have much cooler moves.

In the sense that if i have +50% and add another 7% from a rune, does it become 57% or 7% of the 50?

been wondering this for a while now.

the only racials i ever used with an engi was asura and i loved them. technobable and pain inverter work very well with a condition-heavy engineer. but.. these human.. god awful human racials… >.<

and ty about the guild name comment first comment about it outside guild members from gw1 lol

I just want to say, other then the 3 condition removal racial, I don’t ever use any of the other. They just arn’t ‘epic’ enough for me.

I love the asura racials are cool. Haven’t seen the charrzooka yet, but its name is awesome. I’ve tried some of the sylvari’s and some of them can be very useful and annoying in WvW. Haven’t played norn too much but i fought one in WvW where they went bear form. It was like me going lich form.. so i did just that and was able to over power them, but it would of been close had i not used lich form..

Just saying.. these racials that humans have don’t seem that.. epic enough for me to dish out the skill points for. Idk if others feel the same way.

necro so op in that map man. lovin it haha forever alive! I use your set up too staff/scepter+warhorn. just work really well together.

whats your trait setup?

if your taking requests still then i got one i wouldn’t mind having one where the position is slightly like this(the end of the /ponder emote):
http://imgur.com/tc3Li

but without the mask(still with the shoulders):
http://imgur.com/HKiRK
http://imgur.com/VzOho
http://imgur.com/soSYE <—another view of shoulders

and if you can, some how have the backpack in the picture:
http://imgur.com/J9FWK <—backpack, back view of shoulders

figured more positions would make it easier/help more to recreate Floyd in a drawing. :P

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