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Going to be a very if not the most interesting top 3 matchup ever, so much at stake and not long to prove it.

Good luck everyone!

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Two weeks to go… who will hold that elusive diamond spot!

@Opc.4718
Although scepter cripple is more aimable and safe then axe, its not the reason why i use axe (the cripple that is). Having perm-retaliation is super strong when your built to tank, your almost always reflecting back 300-400 damage and it isn’t bound by the 5 person AoE limit.

Unholy Feast (as Liquid pointed out) is also a AoE boon strip on a short cooldown, another more personal favorite for using Unholy Feast is it needs no target or placable AoE ring, you Axe 3 and it hits 5 people, even stealthed.

Another reason (but not in my particular build) people main hand axe is for builds that spec 20 into Spite for increased damage whilst using Axe (as this also boosts utilities when using Axe, such as Wells).

OK and does that apply to just boon duration or all single types too, for example:

5 seconds protection base with 100% boon duration + 20% protection duration
(5 * 2) * 1.2 = 12 sec
(5 * 1.2) * 2 = 12 sec

or would it still be 10 seconds.

I thought i would put this question into the Guardian section as its the most relevant stat to them.

Is there a hard boon duration cap? Now i don’t mean what the max you can hit is i mean cap were increasing beyond has no effect (such as the 100% hard cap on condition duration).

Some people have said 90% some have said 100% others say there’s no cap at all.

Thanks!

What is this i don’t even…

aspirine.6852:

Cant see it either at work. Unable to load video. I just about wanted to request if you could run with or against a larger group. I’d like to see how this could be improved for myself.

I don’t typically stream large-scale with my Wellomancer unless its reset night or forced meetings though i will try to make an effort to squeeze more into my streaming routines.

Also just a head’s up for anyone following my stream, when the WvW leagues begins (18th October if ANet doesn’t change it again) i will begin doing commentary and also random gold giveaways at the end of my streams!

@Aphix.9846
Thats pretty much spot on, Necromancers base e-pools are already the second highest in-game not taking into account Deathshroud. With all the additional health bonuses you get from WvW (Guard Leech & Robust) there’s really no need to go super defensive.

Main issue I’ve been debating is toughness vs. critical damage or to be more precise Knights armour vs. Berserker armour and what would be more suitable for a prolonged fight, but that’s down to player preference really.

Mad Kings Clocktower remains the hardest thing I’ve ever done in this game and i hope they have made zero changes to it apart from fixing the bug that sometimes caused failure when jumping into the very top.

Blade.3456:

Oh Hi There SoR Tonight was a bag full of fun

@Grimstar.6931
The build drops Vitality (otherwise gained from full Soldiers armour) for Precision (gained from Knights armour) and makes up for it with Melandru + Lemongrass, Vampiric Precision and Sigils of Blood (as health is more for sustaining bleeding conditions rather then direct damage). The health pool might look deceptively low but the sustain is much stronger then a standard necro well build and the pool is safe from condi bombs.

@Noc.2459
I’ve actually spent awhile using Banshee’s Wail over Chilling Darkness and will be switching to it permanently after the 18th patch when its buffed.

Points in Blood Magic is both not “worthless” nor for the healing power, its for the Well cooldown. Having Corruption up 8 seconds sooner every cycle is pretty big considering its an AoE boon strip * 5. Stripping Stability just before the melee train engages is usually a instant win.

Vampiric and Vampiric Precision are also both pretty effective for dealing true damage to enemies on everything and will be even stronger post 18th when its buffed.

As for the “Best Necromancer NA” I’m just going to say you don’t seem to get the reference and its not that literal so keep your panties on.

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Also yesterday in TCBL before we had a real force on the map… I think this may have been just a BIT overkill, dont you think SoR? I mean we had all of maybe 10 max in the keep and no siege, we literally had just taken it back.

I just want to point out, you may see this as “overkill” but your not actually out-manned in that screenshot.

Submitted countless tickets, response “bug fix coming in upcoming update” (5 months ago). Reported by tons of players over the months and coming up to an entire year without being fixed.

When will Endless Halloween Tonics be patched so the ones that couldn’t be sold can be sold?

wow…. o_o….

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Very interesting rune… would need to know what the 6th add-on procs off when using flesh golem, if there’s an ICD and what the range limit is on it.

Since the patch the friends list UI has almost tripled in minimum possible re-size and now takes up a lot of the screen (for someone like be playing 1440 × 900).

Please revert the re-size back to what it originally was (as displayed by min re-size inventory) so we can have our screens back!

cyyrix.6105:

First of all, it wasn’t 1v5…it was 1v1, 1v2, 1v1, 1v1…Still, even if the opponents are on zerg builds (which they were) and are playing poorly (which they were), it’s always impressive to take down that many opponents in one go. I love that you were down to 8 hp on that last fight but made it out alive. A little lucky, but a great vid.

I never had a chance to heal by breaking combat, i was engaged from beginning to end.

CuddleStrike.8215:

Nice editing…. LOL

I would of prob been told off and gkicked if i left the last line in, as much as i wanted too :P

Chopps.5047:

Necro so GG easy to play spamfest, not impressed

but… one of the 5 people i took down solo was a Necromancer… i was on 3.8k when he engaged me.

Nice little bit of havoc footage i snagged from my livestream earlier today.

Nice little bit of footage i snagged from my livestream earlier today.

Thurin.5610:

Smokee talking about SOR sitting behind AC’s i loled irl!

I caught a wonderful bit of footage on my livestream acouple hours ago.

I and 4 others were on our way to JQ-BL north camp, we entered and started on the camp and was responded too by about 10 JQ players. We pulled back to the alter of power and i noticed the JQ players set up and build an AC at the base of the stairs for us.

http://www.twitch.tv/gw2ascii/b/461504395 (watch from 29 mins).

Made me lol irl.

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Back to the only match-up that matters.

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Dand.8231:

You’ll be able to put the argument to rest after the next major patch, when Necro DS (allegedly) finally displays a % by default, and an actual real number when you mouse over.

With any luck, should be a decent and much needed change IMO.

I’m quoting a dev directly after the Deathshroud change, unless there wrong.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/DeathShroud-is-now-base-100-HP/first#post2539415

Players may have ‘tested’ what it could be but noone has come up with either an exact formula or accurate enough guesses between the testers. Some have tested and said its 90-100% others say 120%+.

They increased the damage reduction we receive whilst in Deathshroud, so what it previously was in % would seem to be 100% now but in terms of scaling there was no change.

Its also not 90% (60% base with 30% traits) its 30% of the 60% base, so +18% for a max boost of 78% base health.

Deathshroud HP = (Max Health * 0.6) * 1.XY
(Were XY is equal to your Soul Reaping points, for example 30)

BillFreist.1527:

So a few things about the latest DS changes:

1. Death Shroud incoming damage
   • You now take the correct amount of incoming damage. Before this change (and it wasn’t always like this, either) you would takes the same damage twice.
   • Your Life Force pool is still the same as it has always been. 60% of your maximum health while alive, plus an additional 0-30% of that base value for Traits, meaning you can have a maximum of 78% of your max health.

So at best it would be 14,330 for a max base effective health of 32,702.

Seras.5702:

I believe the OP was including the 2nd health bar we get from DS. Essentially giving us 36,744hp.

Deathshroud scales with 60% base health, not 100%. Deathshroud health would be 11,023 for a total of 29,395.

Warrior effective base health: 21284
Necromancer effective base health: 18372
Engineer effective base health: 16265
Ranger effective base health: 16265
Mesmer effective base health: 15082
Guardian effective base health: 12518
Thief effective base health: 11652
Elementalist effective base health: 10805

As for “best tankers” were far from.

Aphix.9846:

What was that music when you were roaming ?

I usually use ‘epic music’ soundtracks from YouTube.

In terms of effective health, Dire armour gives roughly 3k more then Rabid and Carrion, but loses either 10% critical chance or 200 effective power for it.

Dire maybe the best defensive condition stat, but its not the best overall condition stat. It just depends on your playstyle.

Traxien Cion.9261:

Are you the one who hangs around in TCBL North Camp by the orbs?

When I’m rotating around to top, yes.

@jul.7602
You’ve done no such thing as an “all around attribute increase”. You’ve increased Power by lowering Precision, which is a 10% critical chance loss (Lowering Vampiric Precision, Sigil of Blood procs and the additional damage from the Critical Damage which in-itself is a 10% less chance at dealing 110% more damage).

You’ve also just swapped Toughness for Vitality hoping that it has the same effect through effective health.

Might i also point out that in every build, your actually missing out that i also have +6% critical damage more then your builds.

I have to ask this, because this was a big off-put in the earlier pages of these threads, have you even played any of the builds your theorycrafting in large-scale WvW for a long period of time.

@jul.7602
All you’ve done then is kept my trait, weapon and sigil layout and swapped Precision food for Power food, swapping out high toughness Armour for low toughness Armour and hoping the -8% direct damage taken is made up in the vitality’s effective health.

Even for the slight boost in power i wouldn’t trade-off 8% direct reduction for it, conditions are not the weakness in this build, heavy melee damage is which is why anything but high stat toughness is a hindrance.

At a push, i would consider recommending Sentinels armor with Berserker trinkets for someone who wanted to do more damage, but the lower the Toughness the more chance you become a rally monster for the enemy.

@mistsim.2748
Dagger offhand and a wasted utility slot… Well of Power does so much more then Grasp ever can for GvG. Would be nice to see an actual build.

Please note for people who haven’t read all the pages, I’m not looking for advice or tips on my build but to answer questions on/ about it or Necro WvW gameplay in general.

Guard Defense & Offense. +250 Vitality and +100 power & condition damage.

Rennoko.5731:

I am curious why you blot out the map? Is it to prevent people from reverse stream hunting you? Because it is still pretty easy to find someone streaming.

This does look easier than making videos… but I don’t know how fun it would be for people to watch me run in a circle flipping camps in the down times.

I do believe people are actually doing just this xD just fought the same group of TC players at 3 different camps. Until i pay for xSplit i cant add a delay to my stream so i might have to do just that!

I blot out the map so if/ when commanders zone into the map people cant guess @ were they are from it.

Benefit of xSplit streaming is that it also records the videos onto your account, so you can go through and make a video from the good parts if you have the time for it. The downtime of movement & camp flipping might be boring to some, but others might be new to WvW/ Necro and not know proper enters/ exits or nuke orders ect so its just the best of both worlds for now.

When i get my new headset i will begin to talk on stream too.

@jul.7602
Were-as you maybe right on your vit:toughness ratio, your not taking into account the -65% condition duration making a higher health pool somewhat unneeded. With only 1300 toughness you really open yourself up to being dropped by a melee train.

This build is not about straight up damage, its about disruption by staying in the fight longer and being able to rotate through key skills such as Corruption quicker, i prefer survivability and sustain over power.

As for Retaliation, correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the difference 16.31%:
(198.45 + (0.075 * 2609))* 0.66 = 260.1225
(198.45 + (0.075 * 1872))* 0.66 = 223.641

The loss of Wail of Doom would be too much as-well, +1 second Daze on 5 people and -4.5 seconds off its and Locust Swarms CD is too strong to pass up.

I sense alot of GvGing!

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Back from NYC! Everyone hyped for the new WvW leagues?

Hmm since when did that change, i remember long ago it use to be based of enemies power, and yea with the triple nurf to Retaliation over the past few months the difference between the two would be very minimal.

Would still like to see your build jul.7602 your link is still not working.

Back home, and livestreaming with my new necomimis.

http://www.twitch.tv/gw2ascii

Since recording, editing and uploading videos takes along time I’ve resorted to livestreaming again (and now i have a faster net connection).

http://www.twitch.tv/gw2ascii

Most of my content will be WvW based (either solo havoc or large-scale).

Terrormancer solo havoc build
Wellomancer large scale build

I will bump this thread as and when I’m recording and ill usually record for several hours hope you enjoy!

@KinXiao.6240

Staff is mainly used for the downtime between rotations (such as WH4 > DS or Plague) and for nuking onto walls. Marks are also very useful for discouraging heavy pushing by laying them down into choke-points or at doors.

I upload videos as and when i have time to fraps and then edit videos for my YouTube channel, recently I’ve begun Twitch Livestreaming so you can check out my play style there when I’m recording.

@jul.7602

I’m really not sure what your comparing my build with, as you haven’t provided one of your own, just a link to my one.

Given the figures though heres my thoughts;

• 45% more survivability is much greater then 35% more damage IMO. If you die and rally an enemy force that’s it, game over. Having 45% more survivability also allows you to control the field a lot longer through Plague, Locust Swarm and Deathshroud jumping. My playstyle is aggressive frontline not backline nuking and i like to be able to tank a full enemy melee train.

• 41% mark damage is not that massive, Staff is used purely for a 2-5 nuke and Vampiric + Blood procs for a small burst heal (2.2k + regen) whilst other skill rotations are down and i never find myself lingering on staff for more then 10 seconds.

• “Less retaliation damage” I’m not sure what this means, as Retaliation is based off the enemies power and not yours.

• 20% less condition duration is pretty much 0 helpfulness given the guardian & shout warrior meta, with corruption being fixed and staff 2 & 3 being low condition damage based, condition duration really have no use in this build.

• -65% condition duration is very helpful, it allows us to last in Plague much longer then usual and tank a heavy condi burst without taking much damage when your melee train isn’t there.

• -25% stun duration has saved my life more times then i can count.

• Sigil of Blood is indeed bugged but is still a consistent and very helpful method of sustain and damage, with the sheer amount of targets you can proc it off it is always triggered once the ICD is down. When this sigil gets fixed it will be much stronger too.

• Chill of Darkness is not as effective as I’ve found it to be in the past now Wail of Doom can be picked up alongside Targeted Wells. I have since been using VI, VIII and making sure i Locust Swarm before plaguing to make up for the loss in control.

Posted to get this one restored to proper section, started a new temp score thread until then!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/8-30-JQ-BG-SoR-Mod-Needed

Hey ladies! just checking in. On my last couple days holiday in NYC and should be back soon. Tried the “worlds hottest curry” challenge in Brick Lane Curry House last night, 30 min time limit for a 1/2 kilo Phaal curry, did it with 2 mins to spare.

Brick Lane Curry House.
Phaal curry description (yes i actually had to say to the owner i wouldn’t sue them for any physical/ mental damage).
20 Mins into the curry 1.
20 Mins into the curry 2.
20 Mins into the curry 3.

Nice to see this weeks going well for SoR (even without me!) hope everyones having a good time and ill see you all in acouple days!

and heres my completion certificate (u jelly?)

R.i.P Necro sPvP June 2013 – September 2013

Hey everyone, i just thought id say i am still actively monitoring this thread as and when people decide to post on it and am still happy to answer any questions as soon as I’m back from my holiday in NYC on Thursday (heres me with Spongebob)

I’m pretty sure with all the new armor stat sets and runes replacing magic find coupled with WvW leagues there will be some sort of meta change that i will be covering asap.

I will also begin to livestream both large scale and solo roaming WvW over on my channel.

Cya all later!

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Hello from NYC, just chilling out with Spongebob as you do.

http://i.imgur.com/xQ6TxM6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U5e3EUw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yzVXjgw.jpg

I log on to get my dailies done before i leave for the airport and what do i see pop up in my inventory whilst fighting HzH?

Thanks! wonderful start to my holiday lol xD

Cya all in aweek!

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