Guild Wars 2

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Lets not kid ourselves, we wouldn’t like it any other way.

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Guild Wars achievements should not affect Guild Wars 2 highscores, period. No highscore should be dictated by a different game even if the story-lines are similar. This is Guild Wars 2 and we deserve a fair highscore system that shows peoples achievements in Guild Wars 2, not other games.

HoM players have there ‘rewards’ in the form of unique titles, weapon & armour skins and ranger pets, they should not also have priority on the highscores.

Awe.1096:

Talk about unfair when you will have a 1 day Internet outage and you will miss your daily which you will never be able to earn again.

The difference there is that’s AP missed from GW2, not GW1.

Chase.8415:

And you will also experience the same, you will not be forced to play Guild Wars classic for achievement points.

If i ever want to regain my position in the rankings, i have to buy Guild Wars 1 + Expansions for the +500 AP. Period.

Still want a developer response on this issue please!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/500-AP-for-GW1-Hall-of-Monuments-Intended/first#post2379706

All my views.

sarmatiko.2843:

So you don’t want to buy GW1 and grind for additional achievements. That’s understandable.
But someone more determined will buy and will grind to win in competition. Don’t like it? Then you not deserve your SoR first place on nolife achievements.

I don’t and shouldn’t have to pay for a new game + expansions to earn achievements in this game it makes no sense to have a Guild Wars 2 Achievement Highscore if its dictated by Guild Wars 1 Achievements.

And re-read what you typed ‘buy to win in competition.’ This should not be the case for any highscore, period.

sarmatiko.2843:

And as GW1 player I would love to see at least some minor increase in player population caused by this AP increase. Game deserve it.

And your issue, much like everyone else praising the change, is greed. Greed blinding you from whats fair to Guild Wars 2 players.

Let me put it another way for you, every achievement in the game can/ has be earned through guild wars 2 without paying money for them.

Hall of Monuments have no way of being obtained unless you pay money for them and im very surprised ANet would resort to selling AP for people who wish to remain competitive on the highscores.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/July-9th-Necromancer-Patch-notes/first#post2377971

Farming Flats.5370:

how do you expect new players to be AP competitive ? How about the players who will buy the game in 2 years ?? when you are late to the party you are late …..thank you.

Difference is those AP’s were received in Guild Wars 2, you know the game were playing not in a different game you have to pay for. Guild Wars 2 AP Highscores should in no way be influenced by anything other then achievements received within Guild Wars 2.

Hall of Monuments players already earn unique titles, skins and if your a ranger pets which is enough.

Farming Flats.5370:

Nop , not too much rewards , i played GW1 for seven years and I am now rewarded accordingly. You want it ? do the same , buy Gw1 and earn your titles period.

Play Guild Wars 1 to rank in Guild Wars 2… No thank you and i shouldn’t have too. This is a giant middle finger to anyone who wants to be AP competitive on Guild Wars 2 but has not played the previous game.

Would love a developer response on this issue.

It is a stun! its reduced by melandru’s stun duration… but its not a stun because if it was it would be increased by Paralyzation’s stun duration… but it is a stun because its broken and removed by a stun breaker!

Hope this helps

Sirendor.1394:

Not at all a problem. It’s a way to reward loyal Anet customers. I’m totally fine with that, not having 50/50 HoM myself. Also, the time invested to get 50/50 HoM is praiseworthy.

The titles and skins are loyalty enough, 500 AP messes up all the highscores rankings for all non-GW1 players.

I should not have to play GW1 to be highscore competitive on GW2, this would be like giving a 100 point lead to tPvP teams who did well in there previous matches, it does not promote healthy competition within GW2.

Rising Dusk.2408:

And for the record, anyone can still get them, just go hop over to GW1 and work on the HoM.

By ‘hop over’ you mean spend $19.99 + however much in expansions.

These achievements are now giving 50 AP per completed achievement instead of the previous 2, is this a bug or working as intended.

Personally i think these should not reward any AP at all, (just titles + perks) as i feel i shouldn’t be forced to play GW1 to remain highscore competitive on GW2.

flow.6043:

That’s not necessary. All you need to know is that stun breaks cancel control effects.
Changing names or anything like that would just complicate things.

I don’t get it…

Are you saying that Stun-breakers removing Fear, but Stun duration not increasing Fear makes sense and wont confuse new players?

Rename Stun-breaker to Control-breaker, re-validates everything it does.

Blaine Tog.8304:

This should be taken as a good sign. Maybe without the Sigil of Paralyzation skewing things, Fear won’t need to be nerfed directly (or nerfed as hard) in the August balance patch. Making this change now means they have the opportunity to observe the Necro’s performance for a few weeks before pushing further changes live.

As long as they balance out this obvious hit to Necromancers properly, people wont mind. They now need to;

• Remove Daze & Knock-back being extended by +% stun duration effects.
• Remove Fear, Daze & Knock-back being reduced by -% stun duration effects.
• Redefine to everyone what “stun” means, renaming/ changing stun-breakers accordingly.

They took it, and nurfed it to the GROUNDDDD, they nurfed the rest of the cake too.

So in the upcoming patch Sigil of Paralyzation is being nurfed so “Stun duration” no longer increases Fear duration. Has/ will there be changes to Melandru so the -25% stun duration no longer reduces Fear too.

Will there also be changes to Daze (both increased and decreased by Stun duration) and while were at it, will Stun-Breakers either not remove fear anymore or be renamed to better suit its effect (seen as Fear is no longer being classed as a stun).

If your the only condition build in the team, conditionmacers are king.

If your hot-joining random parties and have no idea how many condition builds are in the team, u’ll suffer alot.

When FoTM first came out i had a team ready for it, with me being the only condition build. We got from 1-30 in a couple days and it was easy sailing for us.

You didn’t by any chance choose that piece of music just because it says “wonderwall” did you?

Necros have the easiest time leveling, im not sure about fastest though.

Pure minion builds allowed me to solo up to 10 levels ahead on my storyline and staff + wells made dynamic event tagging super easy. I leveled 1-80 in 42 hours @ game launch without any crafting.

If you want damage, Ruby Orbs.
If you want survivability, Runes of Melandru.
If you want a hybrid, Runes of Hoelbrak.

Having Banshee’s Wail and 1 Sigil of Paralyzation is enough for a 4 second daze.

Best thing to do is to save your condition burst for when all your fears are up. Keep them guessing with auto-attacks, grasping dead’s & torment stacks and after they blow there heal hit them with the chain fears. Just don’t try to burst them on impact.

I would also recommend splitting armour between carrion & rabid, scepter still does very strong direct damage.

Sparks.3275:

Granted, BG’s NA is not as powerful as SoR’s but it is silly to says its bad. SoR’s ppt is never +400 in NA, more like +300~

Also, ticking for +400 during NA, have been for awhile now.

Sparks.3275:

NA time starts in 30 minutes (7est) the current ppt of SoR is due to their strong EU coverage not a weak NA from BG.

Since when did you set the official NA – EU timezones? TW has been on for awhile and were mainly NA.

Sieg.8439:

Dailies take fifteen minutes tops, just do them and you’ll keep up.

Oh how wrong you are.

I’m ranked 6th NA for AP and i would love to see daily/ monthly AP removed, the time it takes to complete all these tasks can be anything up to 2 hours, not to say daily, monthly and living story AP making it impossible for any new player to rank on the highscores.

Keep receiving a connection error message at random intervals (every 3 – 6 mins), thought i would report it for further investigation.

It hasn’t seemed to affect any of my game functions (friends list loads, guild roosters load, trading post is operating and logging in and out still works fine).

• From the UK.
• No firewall/ antivirus running.
• Home network, connected directly to hub.

Note: This is really affecting my gameplay within WvW, the error message keeps blocking my FoV and prevents me from leading normally, so a response on how to fix would be very much appreciated.

“1v1 is not determined by skill anyway, it’s determined by build/ class matchups.”

Just highlighting that quote and sticking it out there… yea…

Live Score Updates: http://mos.millenium.org/na
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Did we all honestly expect anything different?

Have fun and keep the thread clean!

Thedenofsin.7340:

These are all good builds for wvw:

30/20/0/10/0
30/20/0/0/20
0/30/0/10/30

Maybe for roaming… as far as the ZvZ meta goes its 0/20/10/20/0 min with heavy well focus.

Blaine Tog.8304:

Isn’t it already broken by stunbreakers?

That’s my point.

Fear is both a condition and a crowd effect.

When traited with Terror, Fear will inflict 362 + (0.3 * Condition Damage) condition damage every second (as condition damage it is not affected or reduced by toughness or vitality).

Fear’s duration can be extended and reduced with the stun duration stat and can be removed with stun breakers (removing both the condition and damage if traited with terror).

Players affected by fear will always move away from the caster (not the source).

Builds depends completely on what you plan on doing in WvW, typically narrowed down to;

• Solo roaming (hitting yaks, sentry points).
• Havoc (hitting supply camps).
• ZvZ/ GvG (roaming with large numbers, usually end up fighting 30+).

If they fix +% stun duration increasing Fears duration, they also need to fix -% stun duration reducing its duration (Melandru, SD foods). It would be a joke if they nurf +15% but keep -25%.

Personally i think should be left alone (and no i do not use them). It doesn’t matter how you class Fear (condition control, control, light stun, control effect) its removed universally by a stun breaker and thus should be increased/ reduced by stun duration effects.

I would love to see either the AP rewarded from dailies dropped to 5 or AP from all dailies/ monthlies removed completely. People looking to actually rank on the are seeing so much one-time AP content punish them for missing it (living story, dailies & monthlies).

I’m currently ranked 9th NA for total AP (1st place on SoR server).

First and foremost, if devs ever hit Consume Conditions with the nurf bat there would be massive uproar. I think its safe to say you could take anything away from a Necro but Consume Conditions is ours.

Next, its not the fact that Consume Conditions is strong, its more that the other 2 heals are weak by comparison. They need to change our other heal skills to be more beneficial to us in the role there suppose to play (support heal & minion heal) personally i would recommend:

• Well of Blood should be changed to a water field.
• Blood Fiend should provide some sort of heal if it is killed before you pop it.

If Jade Quarry average 45 or more PPT over Blackgate until reset, they can take 2nd place.

Food for thought. :P

Problem is, Greatswords are big and sharp which goes against our weapon set;

• Our axes are so blunt they don’t cleave.
• Our daggers are so small you have to be on top of the target to make contact.
• Our staff scythe is just smoke.

Kryyg.8576:

Just out of curiosity what does SoR have? I know BG has a “war council” and JQ has a “wvw conclave”.

What does SoR’s leadership consist of/what’s it called/who’s part of it??

Ours is the four zergsmen of the apocalypse; Choo, TW, Fear & TSYM

Jump into the new Skyhammer map, a high-tech asura lab packed with jump pads, shattering floor panels, and one gigantic mega cannon. Battle for control of three capture points, turn the mega cannon’s power against your foes, and be sure to watch where you step!

• http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/7550/The-BiWeekly-Future-of-Tyria.html/page/1
• http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/game/473

Boom, new PvP map with lazor cannons that be firing.
Discuss.

Rennoko has just put out his Terror WvW build with a pretty awesome video of it in action if you want to look into his build more.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Necro-WvW-roaming-Video/first#post2329743

Rennoko 30/20/10/10 Terror Build

Just remember Terror builds are much more effective in WvW then they are in PvP because of the large access to +% condition duration.

Terror Condition is the best way to go when roaming in WvW for Necromancers. Power Wells can clear camps faster but wells are so unreliable in small scale fights.

I am surprised you chose Nightmare over Undead though, you can hit a much higher condition cap in WvW and the consistently changing variables when fighting multiple people in WvW would null out the single target benefit somewhat.

Have you considered using Giver statted weapons for the +20% condition duration?

Bhawb.7408:

When they move, it is literally just a double tick, so it will essentially double damage.

Yea, by the looks of it as soon as they start moving a second tick timer, if you will, starts ticking doing Torment apon movement and every second after that whilst there moving on top of the static Torment per second already ticking.

No vampiric build works in competitive tpvp, period.

With that post you’ve made me laugh at myself for ever thinking you knew anything about Necromancers. Stop implying you need precision for any kind of vampiric build because you don’t. Vampiric Precision matches enhanced Vampiric at 40% critical chance, and the difference in effective health is over 7k (and lets not forget vitality for DS-Health).

Torment (Stationary)
0 condition damage = 32 damage
100 condition damage = 36 damage ((32 + (0.04 * condition damage)
200 condition damage = 40 damage ((32 + (0.04 * condition damage)
300 condition damage = 43 damage ((32 + (0.036 * condition damage)
923 condition damage = 66 damage ((32 + (0.037 * condition damage)
1,073 condition damage = 72 damage ((32 + (0.037 * condition damage)
1,143 condition damage = 75 damage ((32 + (0.036 * condition damage)
1,223 condition damage = 78 damage ((32 + (0.037 * condition damage)

Getting closer to the truth!

I was just going by gw2wiki formulas at level 80, ill do some testing now to find out its actual damage.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

Ascii.9726:

Go home Altroll, your drunk.

Vampiric builds are neither bad nor difficult to play (unless your running a trademarked mighty altroll’s mighty meta build, which are all meta by default). Personally i think a minion variation for vampiric builds works best rather then straight up, something along the lines of;

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBIbdG2IjWtepmrG9eCQ6R0UP9kCuBHSxuSD-TwAA1CtIMSZkzIjRSjsGNAZByGhJEA

The idea being you act as a giant CC shield and let the minions do there thing. The thing about minions and vampiric builds is there’s alot of room for adjustment (more offensive or control ect).

Power based Vampire builds are bad. I never said they were difficult to play, infact I said they were some of the easiest. Ascii, for someone that acts like he has alot of knowledge with Necro, you act like a child, far worse than you portray me.

Vampiric now scales with power.

GiggleFairy.3807:

@Bhawb : what is the runes/sigils the 30/30/10 build is using?

ps: if you got a link for the build could you share it please.

The industry standard is Runes of the Nightmare with Sigils of Geomancy, Sigil of Earth. or Sigil of Corruption.

The 40% condition damage the build has puts Dhuumfire’s burning at 5.6 seconds, using a Sigil of Smouldering is enough to push the burning to 6 seconds for the extra tick (670 damage every 10 seconds).

This is my variation on the build:

Ascii’s Act-Defying Meta-Defining Metal-Refining Fear of the Gods Meta Build ©
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNArYWjMax7Zaeb87JEpCPD0jdBXAxoHHTwkMA-TsAAzCpI+S9l7LzXyvsfN8Y5xcBA
(super effective, it one-hit K.O’s Mewtwo).

Go home Altroll, your drunk.

Vampiric builds are neither bad nor difficult to play (unless your running a trademarked mighty altroll’s mighty meta build, which are all meta by default). Personally i think a minion variation for vampiric builds works best rather then straight up, something along the lines of;

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBIbdG2IjWtepmrG9eCQ6R0UP9kCuBHSxuSD-TwAA1CtIMSZkzIjRSjsGNAZByGhJEA

The idea being you act as a giant CC shield and let the minions do there thing. The thing about minions and vampiric builds is there’s alot of room for adjustment (more offensive or control ect).