Guild Wars 2

The desktop you are looking at will give you significantly worse performance than what you were previously using. Look for anything with an Intel Core I series processor, preferrably at least Ivybridge which every processor in the line will have four digits, the first one starting with a 3 to tell you that it is generation three for Ivybridge. Anything beyond that is also good because it’s current, and something maybe at least a Nvidia GeForce GT 620 and the performance will be better than what you had.

Well, do you have a reference Radeon HD 7970? They look like the attached photo.

If you have one of those, then there’s nothing you can do but to adjust your preferences to it or buy a gaming headset which are nifty to have. You can have the PC set to maximum overtroll setting on the fans to keep it running cool and you won’t hear it with the average gaming headset since a fair amount of them have partial noise cancelling.

Other than that you can use MSI Afterburner or Catalyst Control Center ATI Overdrive and lower the GPU frequencies so it doesn’t enter high heat phases. I know all about Radeon HD 7970 from the ins and outs. I gamed on two of them for two years and they were loud and proud reference units.

As it stands with the i5 and GTX 780M, it’s a good buy in my opinion. GTX 780M is still fairly top of the line when you compare to new offerings such as GTX 870M and 880M. It’s just in between the two 800s. For Guild Wars 2 it’s fairly capable and should serve it’s intended purpose well enough provided it has the cooling. I don’t normally approve of macs for gaming but as since this game already has a MAC client or the option to use bootcamp, I approve of this imac.

Frame limiter will I think limit the monitor itself on how many frames to be displayed, not the graphics card processing. If you have a 120hz monitor, it’ll operate at 60hz. Vsync limits the GPU to 60fps which then also eliminates tearing completely at the expense of deliciously crystal clear, high frame rates (assuming your monitor goes above 60hz.) Though even if you have a 120hz or even a 144hz monitor, visual vertical tearing is much less noticeable.

Vsync will not reduce Graphics unit heat. Heat of a graphics unit is completely generated by the frequencies it’s running at and how much load is put on the chip and RAM. Such as my graphics cards, Asus DCUII OC R9 290X. They run at 1050 MHz core and 1350 MHz GDDR5 when active. They warm up pretty good to starting at the 60s and topping out at around 85 Celsius. These R9 290X graphics cards are armed to the teeth with 2,816 stream processors and a colossally gigantic 4GB 512bit GDDR5 array so when all of it is in use and both graphics cards are fully enabled, it takes a lot to cool them. The reference designs fail at high loads. Reference 290s and 290Xs will start throttling at 95 degrees Celsius to avoid thermal damage. AMD dropped the ball this time around. R9 295X2 was their comeback however, atl east they got the top of the line enthusiast card right. Anyway, I digress. Ahem.

When they’re running cool, it’s because the frequencies have switched to a more idle mode to just process basic things like driving the displays for Windows and small tasks that are not 3D.

I don’t think low idle graphics card frequencies were a thing until maybe a handful of graphics card generations ago. Maybe like Radeon HD 2900 series and GeForce 8800. But it’s definitely an important feature now to prolong a high end graphics card’s life nowadays.

You’re seeing normal things from this game, as an MMO. Lots of player controlled thing, huge particle effects amounts. You need to either or both, turn down CUP intense graphical effects like Reflections and shadows preferably to off or low and or overclock your processor. an i7 4770K hitting 4.2 GHz or 4.5 GHz if you can does decent enough in this game but still it tanks. I have the same hardware except it’s two r9 290Xs. We are in the same boat.

I’m still not having issues with it. That’s all I can say. Have you even tried reinstalling your graphics drivers from fresh?

The max amount of RAM a 32-bit application can use is 3.96 GB. This game uses more than 3 GB fairly often so uh, had to correct you. :P

Since people crashing because the game exceeded the RAM limit is at such a low number, 64 bit client is not a priority. Otherwise I’m not seeing where it can help otherwise.

As I say time and time again, this game is as optimized as it can get without changing direct x or to a different engine which are both too extreme at this point in time for them. Turbo boost is a neat little bonus feature of the i7 and i5. I don’t know why you wouldn’t want to use it. And if you’re using a laptop, turbo boost is the only kind of speed boost you’ll get unless you have a fancytop with an Extreme Edition or other ones that are at the most 4 steps below the Extreme and they may or may not have the ability to overclock. Turbo boost is definitely useful for this game.

My R9 290Xs never get that hot no matter how hot my ambient is. If it’s not long term ambient exposure there could be quite a problem.

Also for the record if it’s the card itself, don’t do what any of these guys say (if it has anything to do with physically altering the unit) except for get in contact with the manufacturer and consult them. If it needs to be RMA’d, doing any physical adaptation to the graphics card WILL void the warranty.

Which means don’t do what Exiled Dbl said and pull it apart. I’d rather have it serviced or replaced by Sapphire at no cost to you.

280x/7970 reference models usually go up to only around 85c in the regular variety of the worst gaming scenarios. That’s what mine did.

Radeon HD 7870 has no excuse to be higher than that. Especially if your Sapphire has one of those fancy double fan coolers, it should be hanging at the most 60 – 65 possibly up to 70 degrees.

yeah that’s a thing to check. it won’t make much of a difference if it’s at 8 or 16 as long as it’s PCI E V2.

Zinthros.6589:

Anyway, mobile GPUs are NOT direct analogues of their desktop versions. 560M is nowhere near as strong as a “real” GTX 560. Same for 770M vs 770, etc. Same also goes for AMD line. An HD7870M is like a stock clocks HD7770.

This. Even the Radeon HD 7970M was essentially a slightly underclocked desktop Radeon HD 7870. (Both have Pitcarin XT, 1280 SPs, 2 GB GDDR5, etc) However, the 8970M is a higherclocked 7970M and the M290X is an even further clocked 8970M. They haven’t really changed the chip at all because it’s still very competitive. It’s a bit faster than the GeForce 770M but not the 780M. Not sure where it places among the 860M, 870M and 880M.

a GeForce 670MX is the same GK104 (OEM) chip as the desktop 660 but underclocked majorly. A GeForce 770M is the actual representative of the desktop 660, being a GK106 chip. Both have 960 CUDA cores. GTX 880M is just about as fast as a desktop GTX 680. Both have 1536 CUDA cores, 880M has a huge boost clock, they are both GK104 chips. But the Desktop 680 and 770 are still faster at reference speeds.

The amount of RAM for mobile and desktop graphics cards have gone straight out the window for Nvidia. The 560M is no exception to any of this information— there was never a 3GB desktop GTX 560. That was exclusive to the GTX 580 and other custom card manufacturers like Asus or MSI.

Then feel free to help get ANet the funds they need for it by buying Gems in the gem store. They don’t have a monthly subscriber fee anyway so it’s not like they can just throw money at someone to make their game better.

Sorry buddy, that’s not gonna work either. This is how an MMO works. If you don’t like, that’s too bad for you. I am also going to just… not acknowledge your messages now.

Direct X 11 MAY HELP with issues but it’s not going to cure this game of it’s problems. Nor will that Mantle crap. It’s in beta even still.

Perfect example is World Of Warcraft.

Check the computer itself. Make sure it’s clean free of as much dust as it can be, it’s not running too hot, you’re not running a machine full of crap and malware, all of theb asic computer maintenance.

Oh woops. You might be having an issue with the driver then. I still have no issues otherwise.

You shouldn’t. This is how any MMO works. Your machine will crush mostly every game you throw at it unless you play in 1920×1080. It’ll crush everything then.

That’s normal.

An Error Prevented Saving:

Message Body length must at least be 15.

It should have let you. I was able to when I installed form a DVD and then waited for it to download the additional 4 GB.

I’m going to assume that it’s not supposed to be like that because it’s a beta driver. This is why I don’t use beta drivers. :P

After seeing those, I’m going to stick to using the Catalyst 14.4 drivers. I haven’t experienced this so I think it’s the drivers.

Check the gw2.exe file and check on the Target line that there is no -UIspanallmonitors on it. That may be it. I haven’t messed with the new drivers yet so check the catalyst control manager to see if there was some new setting that was added that treats multi monitor setups as one single display if that’s not already a thing.

Post a screenshot of it? I get that if I start the game in windowed mode in eyefinity.

I’m still using 14.4 and it’s got no problems.

for AMD, the Phenom 2 line is about the best performance you can get for Guild Wars 2. If you have the cooling capability, I’d recommend giving it a try at close to 4 GHz or 4.2 GHz. A good cooler that can help you do that is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo which is compatible with pretty much every single socket.

I can’t remember if you can just get away with deleting local.dat file (that 30-40mb file ) and let it do whatever I’m not sure what it’s for but usually I hear it’s redownloading the game will fix a lot of the basic problems (little taxing though because it’s an 18.5 GB game)

Guild Wars 2 is not unoptimized. It’s an MMO.

Not the Nvidia control panel. I’m talking from the control panel, Power settings.

Plus note, it takes a long time and a lot of heavy use to make thermal compound go bad unless it’s already crap.

Set the laptop to high performance profile if it’s not already?

SLI will not help you gain anymore FPS. GTX 770 is more than enough for this game. The only thing left for you to do is overclock but since you do not have the 3770K, that’s the best you’ll get unless you’re interested in forking out the cash for the 3770K and a proper cooler for OC.

And tip: This game is not ‘unoptimized" it’s about as optimized it CAN get for an MMO.

Sometimes you can also expect good things from an 80+ rated PSU from time to time. A friend of mine was able to put I think around 950 watts of load onto his Cooler Master V850 80+ Gold rated PSU. It still held up.

80+ certification has nothing to do with saving money. It has to do with getting what you paid for, system stability and reliability. Get educated about this sort of thing. The only marketing gimmick about a power supply is when a new generation of Intel chipset comes out and vendors slap a “Haswell certified” sticker on it. It doesn’t have to be chipset certified but 80+ certification is the best way to go for power supplies. Ever hear of “Never cheap out on a PSU” ? It’s like going full kitten: Don’t ever do that.

Speaking of “Haswell certified” PSUs, my Rosewill Lightning came out before around the Z77 era but didn’t have an Ivy Bridge Certified sticker on it where others did. Look at it now: I’m using it with a Haswell. That’s a complete marketing gimmick.

GTX 870M is only available in Kepler, as is the 880M but that’s completely out of the question here. I imagine that when Maxwell versions come out they’ll do the same with the GTX 600M series and rename the 870M and 880M to 870MX/880MX to seperate the Kepler from Maxwell (like Fermi from Kepler)

Protip for everyone here. The GT 850M is a slightly underclocked GTX 860M assuming the 860M and 860M are both Maxwell. (There is a Kepler 860M) By this, I mean that the GT 850M and the GTX 860M are the EXACT same. Nvidia did this with the GT650M and GTX660M. They were both the exact same so you could save a tonne of money by buying a laptop with the 650M in it and just overclocking it a little bit (which by the way is very easy when it’s a gaming laptop) The linked laptop in this topic is an absolute steal.

My opinion, buy that laptop. Grab MSI AfterBurner 3.0 and bump up the frequencies on that GT 850M. Or more than and get superior performance without spending more.
Invest in the laptop cooling pad too. Not necessary but nice to have anyway in any use at home.

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Avelos.6798:

Before someone comes in here blurting out lies and slander I will tell you that you can play on max. High player count events will see FPS drops. WVW will kill it so you will want to turn heavy settings down. Otherwise you will have an enjoyable experience.

Also if that’s a custom build and you have yet to build it, change the power supply to a 350 or even a 400. the PSU is overkill and will run very inefficiently outside of the 80+ certification, if it has any.

Leave the PSU where it is this game runs you system to its max you will need that extra power at times. As for efficiency the PSU it doesn’t run at a constant 600 watts it runs at the power rating of all the components in you system under load so a 2000watt supply is no more efficient than a 350watt supply. To Many people using under rated supplies have had issues in this game with low rated supplies. They replaced their 350 watt supply with a 600watt problem solved. The supply will go into thermal overloaded and shut down your system. Trust me don’t listen to this guy keep your 600watt PSU you won’t regret it.

No, this is not true. 80+ certifications are designed to be used. When they ARE used, the PSU operates within efficient values. Then it’s delivering rich, clean power to the system. My machine, the two R9 290Xs and 4770K can run on a 650 watt power supply. (This cannot be said for every 650W power supply. It has to be a 650 Watt PSU with AT LEAST 80+ Gold just to be safe.) The PSU would be running at 80-90% but it would be in the 80+ gold certification of for example the EVGA 650 Watt SuperNova.

I’m not saying go with a smaller PSU. I’m saying don’t waste money on power you don’t need and won’t ever use if you have no plans to expand the system. Please educate yourself on how Power Supply efficiency works, thanks.

Before someone comes in here blurting out lies and slander I will tell you that you can play on max. High player count events will see FPS drops. WVW will kill it so you will want to turn heavy settings down. Otherwise you will have an enjoyable experience.

Also if that’s a custom build and you have yet to build it, change the power supply to a 350 or even a 400. the PSU is overkill and will run very inefficiently outside of the 80+ certification, if it has any.

UIspanallmonitors will make the HUD literally use all monitors. It’ll just throw map and chat and menu buttons to the furthest corners.

That’s something you’re going to have to get used to. This is a brand new thing for AMD and I don’t think a lot of games support adapting the HUD to larger center screens. If anything I think you should be thankful it’s not closer to the middle as it is.

kitten though, that certainly looks nice.

Make sure heatsinks are clean, don’t use the laptop on a surface that’s going to otherwise keep it from breathing properly, playing on a table surface is ideal, make sure the fans are working, make sure there’s not a lot of crap running that’s just adding up to the overall work load.

I ran my MSI GT60’s GTX 770M on a GIGANTIC overclock (11.9 MHz faster than a reference GTX 660 on the core chip which was 980 MHz, the 770M at 991.9) and the highest temperature was around 65 degrees. I wasn’t even using the maximum fan RPM mode which is great for when the area is noisy or you’re using headphones.
The joys of a laptop built for gaming.

I also agree to use cooling pads. But if either of you guys are playing the game on an ULTRABOOK, well, that’s half the problem right there. They either have skimpy or no active cooling and rely on passive.

Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes it will.

Max settings at 1080P. It should hold fairly well in PVE. It’ll dip in cities, but max settings will crush everything in WVW.

Listing other specs would help.

Side: Is that a legit operating system or is it activated without a product key?

It happens. White listing it fixes it easily instead of uninstalling an otherwise still useful program.

Not according to other reviews done. It ranks up around the same as Avast.

Then Sophos is not free.

This computer will play the game very well. The CPU in it is very good considering it’s an Intel Haswell. The GPU is a little slow but it’ll handle a fair amount of eyecandy for you.

I’d recommend a GTX 750 if you wanted a better GPU. GTX 750 is very low power while packing a huge punch for what it is.

You may want 6 GB of RAM or 8 though but overall the computer will do fine.

I heard avast went to crap in the past few years. Just add Guild Wars 2 to the exceptions list in AVG.
And as far as free antiviruses go, Avira is the best.

AVG doesn’t screw with my install of it.

Okay so if you see two of them and the other says Power Saver, you should have access to a third one. Below both of them you’ll see “Show hidden power plans” or whatever drop down arrow to see more, click that and you’ll see “High Performance”

Click that and see how things go.

Good choice of CPU. Might be less expensive now compared to 4670K

If you’re just looking for a new graphics card for guild wars 2, I say stay with the HD 6950.
Though if you want a new one and your budget is not a problem, I recommend the Asus R9 290X DCUII OC for high end. I have two of them and they are the best things I’ve ever had since sliced bread.

Is the power profile in Windows set to high performance?

Same thing. Sectors or pages. If it has them, it will perform as expected until it starts filling one.