T1 or T2. I have been on YB since the fall of Mag and it is a pretty nice place to hang your hat. Most laid back server I have been on by far. They also consistently play and even in T2 manage to flip every objective on all maps at some point.
When Americans sleep yes, yb sure do. The pvd is strong.
It’s a shame sab won’t come back…I had more fun with that then all the living story crap put together…
Will it ever come back? It’s my favorite living story and I don’t wanna Waste a perm coin I bought from gemstore.
I don’t understand the issue here. Playing as Caithe was fun. I don’t know thief either but it was still a very easy missions since the damage was good. It’s only ONE chapter in the game…don’t need to cry over it.
But pvers gotta cry over everything no matter how little it is.
Feeling stale?
Want a different type of game play where there aren’t huge zergs on all sides?Go visit a t7 or t8 server. Let’s see how you do there.
T1 also has empty space.
but in addition there is active battlefields
We’re not just talking empty space here.
Strategy and tactics are very different between t1 zerg fests and (near) barren t8s.
From a former lower ranked server player, u have no ideia what u’re talking about. What I noticed when I just transfered from BP was that the roamers were actually slighter better in T4+, while the commanders and big group tactics were really, really better in T1, probably because they get a lot more practice here.
As someone who transferred from BG to IoJ to play with a friend, I found that lower tiered roamers were actually worse. In T1 I would actually think twice about attacking someone, in T3-4 I just run in and only worry about it if the enemies start to triple my numbers. I think the biggest difference is the builds in T1 are based around either running away from zergs/fights or stealth annoyance, so most fights end with someone running away or pure frustration. Now this was back at the end of Season 1 LS when I transfered, so maybe T3-4 skill levels have increased since then. I haven’t played WvW for awhile though, it’s just too boring and stagnant.
I just faced ioj last week. It was boring for roaming. It’s either pure condi or a warrior with all invincible skills that try’s to burst you down, if that failed the warrior would run away.
We’re not just talking empty space here.
Strategy and tactics are very different between t1 zerg fests and (near) barren t8s.
Yeah, people can press somenthing other than 1 when a zerg fight happen down here.
Better then having barley any people or trying to find a fight for an hour
So many people complaining…let t1 be t1. Anything under t2 is completly boring anyway.
If you wanna have fun with wvw. Don’t worry about ppt. Once you do, you will make yourself so bored in wvw that you will quit.
Who cares what happens in NA it’s all dead.
Yak’s Bend.
He’s so right lmao. Ppt means everything to yaks bend.
The WvW population has indeed been plummeting for quite a while. On JQ the most dire time zone is SEA – it’s almost deserted. Overall it’s currently the least populated T1 server, but there’s still activity at certain times.
Mostly it’s just a matter of indifference. I don’t think Anet even realizes how little players care about PPT at this point. For the majority (of T1 at least), it only serves to maintain the tier – no one cares if they’re 1st, 2nd or 3rd.
We just want to fight. Commanders from different servers arrange times to be online in order to fight each other (with guild or PUGs). This is the last bit of entertainment left in WvW and you don’t need to maintain a population 24/7 to do it.Yaks bend is the only server in NA to play the ppt game…they flat out ignore fights to go ppt. Plus bg/tc are trying hard to not let jq fall. No one wants to fight yaks bend.
Every server has players who cares about the score and PPT. To claim otherwise is simply being ignorant.
No need to be salty, FA’er.
I’m not being salty. I have a friend on yaks bend who tells me what commanders say. Most have said “we play for ppt, not for fights.”
There are guilds that are “fight” guilds but I see them focusing FA and ppt.
Just makes t2 kinda boring when it just becomes t1 gameplay of blobs of
No show.
The WvW population has indeed been plummeting for quite a while. On JQ the most dire time zone is SEA – it’s almost deserted. Overall it’s currently the least populated T1 server, but there’s still activity at certain times.
Mostly it’s just a matter of indifference. I don’t think Anet even realizes how little players care about PPT at this point. For the majority (of T1 at least), it only serves to maintain the tier – no one cares if they’re 1st, 2nd or 3rd.
We just want to fight. Commanders from different servers arrange times to be online in order to fight each other (with guild or PUGs). This is the last bit of entertainment left in WvW and you don’t need to maintain a population 24/7 to do it.
Yaks bend is the only server in NA to play the ppt game…they flat out ignore fights to go ppt. Plus bg/tc are trying hard to not let jq fall. No one wants to fight yaks bend.
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You know your on a good server when it doesn’t need to bandwagon and kill morale out of every server with execsive seige use.
Just wish Sos would show up instead of giving free ppt.
Can someone fill me in with the current situation of T2?
Is SoS imploading?
Did YB receive massive transfers?YB has received a number of guilds, which is great. Their population can now better compete with that of SoS and FA.
More exciting is the GvG revival currently happening in T2. We are seeing a welcome return to groups engaging other, similarly sized groups open field. When guilds really want to test their worth, they head to OS and do 15s. T2 has recently seen (and will continue to see) an influx of players from Tier 1 who are tired of blobs and siege.
#GvGRevival2014
So they leave t1 seige wars for t2 seige wars with yaks bend.
Can someone fill me in with the current situation of T2?
Is SoS imploading?
Did YB receive massive transfers?
Yb got a lot of transfers and have the most coverage in t2 atm. They are like the old Sos with less skill.
Sos lost a lot of people when they tried to push for t1 which resulted in the death of mag and lose of those ocx.
Lol^
Easy bags.
Dtc is right. He’s a karma train commander. Nothing special.
No matter what we suggest. Anet ignores it. Nothing will change.
I’ve changed my mind, pending on YB’s performance. I already said in this thread that if they play to their negative stereotypes; then I’ll want it again.
They have potential to be much more than they are and what they have been. However, I don’t want to waste anyone’s time (on FA, SoS, or a server that is actually up for the challenge) if they don’t want it.Translation: I’m up for a doubleteam vs YB, unless they play the way I want.
Mighty mature of you. Please don’t tell us how we should enjoy the game. We’re able to determine that for ourselves.
I’m just being clear. YB is welcome to play however they want but no one currently in T2 wants a server that substitutes siege for skill 24/7. People will hate it and one of two things will happen: either we get sick of it and 2v1 the offender, or it becomes so nauseating that both servers implode and YB moves permanently into Gold League then T1 will take turns violating you.
Just because you don’t like seige doesn’t mean they can’t use it…t2 is a karma train tier because of your server. Yb will put a stop to that.
So we’ll only be able to K-Train FA possessions. I think you just said that your server is going to T3. K-Thxbai
Your delusional…FA stops ur k trains easy,mag doesn’t stop u.
I just logged off after we waltzed into all your keeps.
After tonight….Come on in YB, the water is fine. Play however you want and feel welcome. After seeing a 60 man FA blob run into a tower to fight under AC fire I don’t think YB will be changing things much no matter how they play.
Yeah “60 man blob” lol. I bet this was during SoS pst time where no FA is on. God this guy is all talk.
I’ve changed my mind, pending on YB’s performance. I already said in this thread that if they play to their negative stereotypes; then I’ll want it again.
They have potential to be much more than they are and what they have been. However, I don’t want to waste anyone’s time (on FA, SoS, or a server that is actually up for the challenge) if they don’t want it.Translation: I’m up for a doubleteam vs YB, unless they play the way I want.
Mighty mature of you. Please don’t tell us how we should enjoy the game. We’re able to determine that for ourselves.
I’m just being clear. YB is welcome to play however they want but no one currently in T2 wants a server that substitutes siege for skill 24/7. People will hate it and one of two things will happen: either we get sick of it and 2v1 the offender, or it becomes so nauseating that both servers implode and YB moves permanently into Gold League then T1 will take turns violating you.
Just because you don’t like seige doesn’t mean they can’t use it…t2 is a karma train tier because of your server. Yb will put a stop to that.
So we’ll only be able to K-Train FA possessions. I think you just said that your server is going to T3. K-Thxbai
Your delusional…FA stops ur k trains easy,mag doesn’t stop u.
I’ve changed my mind, pending on YB’s performance. I already said in this thread that if they play to their negative stereotypes; then I’ll want it again.
They have potential to be much more than they are and what they have been. However, I don’t want to waste anyone’s time (on FA, SoS, or a server that is actually up for the challenge) if they don’t want it.Translation: I’m up for a doubleteam vs YB, unless they play the way I want.
Mighty mature of you. Please don’t tell us how we should enjoy the game. We’re able to determine that for ourselves.
I’m just being clear. YB is welcome to play however they want but no one currently in T2 wants a server that substitutes siege for skill 24/7. People will hate it and one of two things will happen: either we get sick of it and 2v1 the offender, or it becomes so nauseating that both servers implode and YB moves permanently into Gold League then T1 will take turns violating you.
Just because you don’t like seige doesn’t mean they can’t use it…t2 is a karma train tier because of your server. Yb will put a stop to that.
I’ve changed my mind, pending on YB’s performance. I already said in this thread that if they play to their negative stereotypes; then I’ll want it again.
They have potential to be much more than they are and what they have been. However, I don’t want to waste anyone’s time (on FA, SoS, or a server that is actually up for the challenge) if they don’t want it.Translation: I’m up for a doubleteam vs YB, unless they play the way I want.
Mighty mature of you. Please don’t tell us how we should enjoy the game. We’re able to determine that for ourselves.
Meh just ignore chris. He likes to think he is the spokesman for SoS server when Sos doesn’t even respect him. Chris is just a karma train commander, he said so himself.
Once again still your fault. These are AMERICAN servers for a reason. There are no oceanic servers, which means we only playin the right time zones. Go t1 is your oceanic.
Honestly this is stil SoS fault. Since FA doesn’t have t2 coverage during the night, Sos just steamrolls over every door/npc. Cd and db just have sea. Which in SoS cause are pst doing golem rushes on undefended keeps. The 3rd server has to have pst to survive.
The PST pushes were mostly NA college students home for summer break. You already saw the difference the first week of the season and you’ll see it again over the next few weeks. We’re still stronger than FA in PST, but being greater than next to nothing isn’t much to brag about. If YB and CD even have a modest PST population you’ll see our PST pushes completely grind down (unless they play for second) to a halt.
Our OCX casual pop will probably keep us in the lead, but it won’t be the pre-season blowouts of 100k+ every week. CD is far from a slouch and YB has their keeps locked down all night. Even our PvD trains will get bogged down in their stuff.
This could be a very positive change to T2 if people are willing to give it a chance.
Weren’t you the one who wanted FA/Sos to focus yb out of t2?
Honestly this is stil SoS fault. Since FA doesn’t have t2 coverage during the night, Sos just steamrolls over every door/npc. Cd and db just have sea. Which in SoS cause are pst doing golem rushes on undefended keeps. The 3rd server has to have pst to survive.
Still gonna be t2 no matter what. Your blobs out blob db now.
T2 is gonna be a mess because of SoS. Their night Crew will continue pvding. Without t3 keeps and seige I bet yb won’t be able to hold out
SoS sit in t3 keeps/sm all day on seige. That’s how they r t2.
FA doesn’t force anyone to play how t2 “was”
That was mag and SoS. But whoever moves into t2 will just be bored cause SoS night capping and no na.
Chris confirmed SoS wants easy wins/karma.
Lol chris…t2 is officially a karma train tier since you said that.
I don’t think dragonbrand made it to t1…stuck at t2 or am I mistaken?
That’s hard for SoS. They melt upon impact.
Blackgate has 5 times our numbers, we are outnumbered all day long, and we cannot even recruit people to fight back because our server is “full”. Get this: our maps are empty but the server is full. Why? This is beyond broken.
It’s easy to imagine that somewhere down the code Megaservers do not really exists, it’s all mixed servers and PvE population is still calculated on top of WvW server population. It’s a big mess that should be fixed immediately.
Anet has to reset WvW server population according to the actual number of playing WvW, not according to some abstract calculation of people who joined that server before megaservers were made and perhaps do not even play the game anymore.
You guys do have the wvw force to compete in t1. Always 250k lead in t2. Just SoS is full of fairweathers. Watch next week where you won’t be outnumbered but outnumber mag and FA.
SoS doesn’t have anywhere near the people to become remotely competitive in T1. Have you even taken 1 look at the score? The only reason they have been winning by 250k in T2 is because of the collapse of Mag. Even TC’s SEA easily outnumbers that of SoS, and they are supposed to be “weak” during that time. Just like every other server, SoS has had a very noticeable increase in the weekly matchup. Sure, being up against SoS sucks a bit. It is nothing in comparison to what it is like being up against TC. Just because SoS is dwarfed by T1, that doesn’t mean they are fairwhether. Not that you would know how to even use that word properly seeing how often you love to throw it around like it is your own personal catch phrase.
You seem to love to spew kitten at every opportunity you can, my guess is that you are from Mag and you are still bitter about your own server’s failings. nothing says “fairwhether” like a server implosion. Go sit in the corner with Bucket Lips so you can cry about big meanie SoS and kitten all night.
1) I’m not on mag.
2) I know sos are fairweathers. All FA know this.
3) take out some SoS wps and they stay in the keeps all day which stops the k-trains
That’s hard for SoS. They melt upon impact.
Blackgate has 5 times our numbers, we are outnumbered all day long, and we cannot even recruit people to fight back because our server is “full”. Get this: our maps are empty but the server is full. Why? This is beyond broken.
It’s easy to imagine that somewhere down the code Megaservers do not really exists, it’s all mixed servers and PvE population is still calculated on top of WvW server population. It’s a big mess that should be fixed immediately.
Anet has to reset WvW server population according to the actual number of playing WvW, not according to some abstract calculation of people who joined that server before megaservers were made and perhaps do not even play the game anymore.
You guys do have the wvw force to compete in t1. Always 250k lead in t2. Just SoS is full of fairweathers. Watch next week where you won’t be outnumbered but outnumber mag and FA.
That’s hard for SoS. They melt upon impact.
I love the picture. Haha
Welcome to t2 yaks bend
Looks like I won’t be logging on for even longer..,haven’t been on cause gw2 is boring as kitten. But if wvw achievements r this much of a joke. Forget it
Just looking at the server statuses and SoS is FULL. Then I remembered this thread and said “wtf?” to myself. Soo… if this whole thread was a political tactic, GJ Sos! You successfully pulled a BG
The hilarious part is it was Fort Aspenwood’s political tactic. In general, T2 are but neophytes to the skilled political operatives that run Tier 1 NA. In our tier a “political coup de tat” is a screenshot of one server blobbing.
Your acs are calling you to refresh them.
None of the guilds on SoS, even the ppt guilds, take resets remotely seriously. Whereas you see multiple map queues of FA humping tower and keeps all night all weekend. It has nothing to do with skill or balance.
I’ve seen screenshots on the PvF forums and elsewhere (none of my own) of SoS having 2-3 queues on reset for the first hour at least on reset. FA hasn’t had more than one queue at any point in the week for over a month. Usually just FABL when there’s a call-out, or when the fights are all concentrated there.
Before Mag’s collapse, the SoS and Mag fight guilds would consistently go to FABL because they knew there’d be good fights there, so FABL tended to get a queue then too.
Now though? One queue at the very peak of NA for a few minutes in FABL, usually leading to Outnumbered in EB.
SoS is just inefficient due to blobbing with their numbers in NA, I assume due to lack of pugmanders and concentrations of pugs on those few tags displayed, as I stated previously.
If you actually believe what people say there then you are as stupid as the idiots who pretend to be important and make kitten up for the “lolz”. Most of it is Mag crying about everything because that’s what they do and randoms pretending to be SoS dribbling off whatever people want to hear.
Before Mag’s collapse, all FA would do run completely avoid any sort on confrontation with Mag/Nacho and constantly try for easy caps and back cap all the Nachos hard work at the first possible time. Nacho got kitteny and started to hammer FA keeps and it just flowed into prime time from there. There would be good fights there because you had to call in all the guilds and players you could because you couldn’t handle the heat Nacho brought.
All afternoon while SoS Americans were at work there would be FA blobs running around hitting doors like a bunch of kids in a candy shop. As soon as guilds logged in and rallied up to wipe them once or twice they vanished. I’m sure it was just getting too late for them and they couldn’t stay up for any longer.
Besides it being a few hours of bad ppt for 3 map queues (which were about 10 each and not the 50 you seem to be trying to make it out as) the 1st night of reset isn’t normal. Reset night isn’t a ppt night and all this “inefficient blobbing” is just the first night of reset pugs because it is purely all about going out of a Friday night and having a bit of fun. The difference is FA does it on normal raid night and they are probably better at it because they use their guilds to do it.
Oh, and it wasn’t all that long ago that FA had 4 map queues on reset. It seems FA has done more “imploding” recently then SoS has. Keep crowing about all these guilds are leaving SoS, but all it comes down to is that no-one wanted to stay in a broken tier with a rotting corpse on one side and a massive disappointment on the other. Make up your minds if you want balance, don’t go acting like a bunch of bitter juveniles when a few guilds transfer off.
I think it’s the other way around.
Sos are the ones humping siege. Look at smc when it’s t3, siege capped plus a couple sos on every cannon.
Chris stop thinking sos is superior…
They came on in the middle of night their time for the servers weak time. So for jq which is NA, tc is ocx or sea. And bg is same.
Sos have never been a “fights” server anyway. They were ppt.
SoS isn’t imploding, just a few guilds moving to T1 because T2 doesn’t offer what they want currently.
problem is SoS as been going too well. when we are getting to +650 every night at the start of oceanic time little to do then.
i’m looking forward to seeing how SoS goes against TC/BG/JQ. We have been stuck in this same matchup too long.
It will be just the same as last season.
All your pugs will go to eotm or pve for the week and come out with kittens for t2 week. Sos is just a 100% fairweather server. Tc/jq/bg know that and why you think they don’t want you guys on t1?That isn’t even what happened. SoS didn’t have any less of a turn out during T1 weeks of S2. It just didn’t look like it on the scorecard because they were still a fair way off being the right size to compete for T1. Added to most of the guilds weren’t even actively ppting during T1 weeks because it was a fruitless endeavour. As far as “fairweathering out” goes, isn’t that what 95% of the player base of your precious server did?
I’m sure JQ wouldn’t really care less if SoS did end up going into T1 post S2. TC were too busy in damage control to stop from falling apart (even if they wouldn’t have fallen far anyway), and BG was too busy with playing big brother and focusing JQ because they didn’t want 2 T1.5 servers kicking about i.e TC and SoS. Which would have put us into a far worse of a situation then we are in now.
So no EU, all your ocx guilds left, NA always been dead and few sea. Yeah sos is so good…
Lmao
SoS isn’t imploding, just a few guilds moving to T1 because T2 doesn’t offer what they want currently.
problem is SoS as been going too well. when we are getting to +650 every night at the start of oceanic time little to do then.
i’m looking forward to seeing how SoS goes against TC/BG/JQ. We have been stuck in this same matchup too long.
It will be just the same as last season.
All your pugs will go to eotm or pve for the week and come out with kittens for t2 week. Sos is just a 100% fairweather server. Tc/jq/bg know that and why you think they don’t want you guys on t1?
SBI has lost population again with LUN / ex-HIRE looking to go elsewhere for the season, so barring weird rolls next week I’d pick CD or DR to be the eventual server in T2.
Hire left sbi?
Don’t forget the massive use of acs.
