Guild Wars 2

Raeyne.5086:

<3 to Dius for the rain of death at NE tower tonight XD

Hehe, you didn’t give us a chance to get set up!!!
We were about to push out before you showed up and half the ac’s were unused ye meanies.
Was kind of annoying the groups poking us before that were pretty tiny and the ac’s and siege were totally unnecessary and wasted then you and gws1 (im horrible with tags sorry for the inevitable screw up with that one) showed up and rolled us over.

Amelia Knox.9362:

Caid, Dawn we run 10-15 aside sunday where i do my event like tonight were i limit people to 35 but people keept coming.
If you want to arrange anything just wisper me or Kuper and we’re usually up to

Well i thought if maybe we just do it on forums?
Like i know yak, mya and tup are all running similarish numbers these days and apparently it led to a good evening for them.
But tbh theres about 7 or 8 gandara guilds running 10-20 (dius, jdge, tda, xxx … others who’s name i should really remember xD). Be kind of hard to arrange between ALL of us via whispers.
Just thought if we said them guys can hang around ag bl for the week, we hang around ms bl for the week? Leave gbl for the massive pug trains or something like that?

MSBL was brilliant for a while. Every group in there was between 10 and 20 with loads of brilliant fights. Having an entire map with nothing but these kind of groups was a real breath of fresh air and a real rarity that doesn’t happen often enough. Which made it all the more frustrating when a 40+ man group joined the map with 2 guilds each running between 10 and 20 and a dozen pugs to top it off.
All the gandaran groups on the map just formed one big stupid blob at that point in the hopes of making a point and going back to what was the start of a really nice evening. It didn’t work so we all joined AG bl to join in a map with guilds running 25-30 and what was basically an unsuitable map for us.
Wasn’t bad and in a normal week would have been as good a night as you can normally hope for (if we didn’t end up on the wrong side of the map every bloody time a fight broke out xD). But after the fights of the first hour just left a sour taste in the mouth and was difficult to enjoy.

I’d name check the guilds knocking about MS bl early in the day to say thanks for the great fights but i have a terrible memory for these things and I’d just mess your tag up or forget it entirely. You know who you are anyway, was fun

@ amelia
These things happen. Was a pity you didn’t end up on AG bl as it would have been a more suitable venue for the event just by pure dumb luck of which guilds went where.
Anyway … would be cool if we could arrange to get certain size guilds in certain borders for the rest of the week. Any interest?

People exploit – report them and move on. Asking about it on the forum doesn’t achieve anything.

Warriors are good with babysitting – people to peel and cripple or immobilise so they can get damage off. If you’ve got one or two people around you warr is better imo.

Guardian is better solo (anything is better solo than warr really) you wont die really but you wont kill anything either unless they screw up – just too easy to disengage and reset fight against them.

Krato.4729:

Snowstorm.3897:

soon all we’ll see are warbands composed of 15+ guardians, 5 warriors, 2 ele’s, and a Mesmer.

For me, the beauty of GW2 at the moment is figuring out counters to strategies and counters to those counters. I think our warband would have little problems with a group setup that way, retaliation included. We’ve only recently started taking part in GvG more seriously, and part of the challenge comes from examining how the enemy are doing what they’re doing then responding to it. That’s why this week holds a lot of promise, with a whole variety of similarly sized guild groups roaming looking for action, something true PvPers desire.

Meh, gvg’s are different. Its even numbers for a start, part of the silliness of retal is at a certain point you cant beat a larger group if they have retal up – you’ll just kill yourself before you kill them.
Also there is an obvious counter – harass the little backline they have and kill their staff ele (they rely on them more than a more balanced group).
Problem is the classes who are particularly good at that are worthless against pug zergs because they have a 30 man backline that’ll zerg a 1/2 man backline harrasing group down in about half a second. No one wants to play the classes who are good at it because they’re going to be worthless and / or dead for the majority of fights that take place every evening.
Anyway pulling off the counter is just so much more difficult than pulling off the strat. If you just blink to the far side of your melee train then their pressure dissapears as they cant follow you through and have to take a long trip around. Its pretty much a race as to who runs out of blinks or whatever first, your 5+ man backline being chased by 20 melee or their 1 / 2 man backline being chased by a dd ele or thief or whatever.

Amelia Knox.9362:

Retal is overtune in wvw, the most important retal givil is not shout but Virtues, with 15 point in that line, you get perma retal with enough guardian.

Its more light fields really

I dunno. Hammer guardian is putting up aoe retal every 4 secs, boon stipping isn’t much of a counter imo. You dont even need to try putting up retal with a few guardians, its just there all day, every day. I think glamour is still pretty good too.
Anyway I just dont like the mechanic, its too passive for my taste and i dont find the idea of a class that does damage by getting punched in the face … interesting (?). I’ll probably be calling for nerfs while its in anyway relevant tbh.
I dont think it creates an interesting meta atm either … it doesn’t open options, it limits them. Hammer wars and guardians are pretty dominant population wise. I’ve played a ranger with1700 vitality and i still struggled with retal to the point i basically need to spend as much time doing nothing as attacking, had 1900 toughness too so its by no means a glass cannon spec. Just seems really backwards that the absolute worst thing you can use the crap ac long bow skill on is a group (not that i’d use a long bow that weapon is dire)

Anyway sorry for derailing thread, enough nerf retal threads knocking about im sure

ankdarkwolf.1487:

Nice nice reset, big clashes, even if maybe tomorrow everything will be lost in the alcoholic mist of my mind i started with that epic epic fight in MS garri, still having goosebumps after a past week a bit numb.

I absolutely agree with retaliation issue, playing with engi i really have to excessively restrain myself. I really hope they’ll find a right balance between utility for the users and way of dealing with it for the takers.

See you around the battlefields <3

Personally i just hope they basically remove it (despite playing a guardian). I dont think any game has ever managed to use the mechanic in a way that didn’t seem … kind of cheap or open to abuse. Exteme example but this springs to mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX2JEKVn-U4

Dranul.2094:

Caid.4932:

Was fine on AM bl. Biggest group was 40 at a guess? Some instances of a few groups merging together creating silly numbers but was fine mostly.
Sorry to hear AG wasn’t much fun.
Lots of nice fights all of which went well except those against TUP. There was a certain amount of resigned acceptance of the incoming wipe on later fights ‘oh look TUP splat … yep, respawn’. xD
Noticed you’ve grown fond of retal, dropped a symbol on you in one fight and wandered off to one side while eating 10k retal damage
Wish they’d hurry up with the bl fix, though its still pretty stupid on eb imo.

Ain’t changed anything since last time

Althou hitting a pulsing attack on any organised group is crazy. Expect Retal.

My head hurts and im seeing triple, fun drinking night tbh.

You have more people, thats new. Maybe its all the charrs / norns but it seems like all the new recruits are warrs or guardians too. Not claiming its intentional or your taking advantage of a bug or anything just an observation really.
Does seem to be a lot of groups basically running 30 melee with a mesmer and a staff ele though. I dont know you look at combat log sometimes and see 80% of your health was lost to retal and 20% to auto attack. Does seem to be a distinct meta surrounding retal atm whether people are aware they’re doing it or not.

We’ve changed a bit too really. There was a time when our backline was basically a mesmer, a necro and if we were lucky a staff ele. Last night 5 of our 15 were melee.

I think in a lot of cases retal is a bit more horrible for ranged personally. I basically refuse to play ranger or engi in guild events.
Anyway … yeah … we kind of need to be a bit more careful about our melee pushes these days really, less people to share the damage around, taking half our health off on retal makes life that much harder.

Yeah pulsing attacks suck for retal but so does whirling wrath and auto attack isn’t that nice either. Anyway i kitten about blobs and their 1 spam so i have to use buttons now even if its dumb xD. At least i get heals from the boons symbols put out (and retal)
Suppose i should just switch to hammer but i just like gs ssssssssoooooooo dam much.

Rookni.2469:

Retal is one of the cheapest mechanics ever seen in a MMO

Its in every mmo in one form or another in fairness. Always ends up the same way, it gets nerfed into irrelevance (wow paladins) or remains really stupid.

Remember in AoC there was a stage during my brief time playing the game that thieves couldn’t kill me on conqueror because i could just reflect damage them to death lol. Think there was a couple of other classes that i could take down to 10% before they killed me without technically hitting them.

Slomo.1029:

Caid.4932:

Was fine on AM bl. Biggest group was 40 at a guess? Some instances of a few groups merging together creating silly numbers but was fine mostly.
Sorry to hear AG wasn’t much fun.
Lots of nice fights all of which went well except those against TUP. There was a certain amount of resigned acceptance of the incoming wipe on later fights ‘oh look TUP splat … yep, respawn’. xD
Noticed you’ve grown fond of retal, dropped a symbol on you in one fight and wandered off to one side while eating 10k retal damage
Wish they’d hurry up with the bl fix though its still pretty stupid on eb imo.

TUP has drinking warband tonight. Attendance is higher than usual.

Yeah they’re a good group, always have hit really kitten hard (we had a fair few pugs in a lot of cases that evened the numbers up, so it wasn’t entirely the issue). But attacking them with any serious ability costs so much health from the retal they keep up, makes them a really, really tough fight atm.

Its a good tactic, a lot of guilds are using it these days.
I’m not a fan of the mechanic and never have been in any game its been present in though. Think its a extremely overtuned in bl maps in particular so im looking forward to the fix.

Nauda.3678:

So, just one last comment here:
New Matchup for AM: Abaddon vs Elona vs River

So I think some of you may want to scream something like “Karma!” or “You get what you deserve!”;)

I’m kinda excited! So: FORWARD INTO DEATH AND BLOBBHELL!

We found that match up pretty funny all right xD. Hope you enjoy it anyway. I’d say hope to see you again soon but that would be a total lie lol (i know the feelings mutual). Good luck guys and cya.

Drakkar were a lot of fun to fight last time we fought them in fairness. Was months ago but still. Anyway hope you have a fun week FSP.

Was fine on AM bl. Biggest group was 40 at a guess? Some instances of a few groups merging together creating silly numbers but was fine mostly.
Sorry to hear AG wasn’t much fun.
Lots of nice fights all of which went well except those against TUP. There was a certain amount of resigned acceptance of the incoming wipe on later fights ‘oh look TUP splat … yep, respawn’. xD
Noticed you’ve grown fond of retal, dropped a symbol on you in one fight and wandered off to one side while eating 10k retal damage
Wish they’d hurry up with the bl fix, though its still pretty stupid on eb imo.

Rezzet.3614:

Terrahero.9358:

Rezzet.3614:

just poison your enemy after he goes down why’s that so painful

step 1 Poison
step 2dodge – sometimes needed to be done as step 1
step 3 range tha basterd

Because Mesmers blink away, and then summon a illusion that hits like a truck (6K+) aswell as spamming you with Confusion.
Because an Elementalist will just run away and hide, especially with allies or a tower/keep nearby.
Because a Warrior will just go Vengeance mode, get half his healthpool back and stomp your face in.
Because a Ranger will get rezzed by his pet.
Because a Necro will just dps you back with drain life and heal himself with it, staying alive much longer.
Because a Thief just goes invisible, and can still hurt a lot.
Because an Engineer is just boned.
Because some professions and builds dont have a means to outrange a downed player.

I do believe boons persist when you get downed, and so should conditions. However conditions are honestly a mess in this game.

well goes other way as well

Thief can Stealth and finish downed players

Mesmer can stealth and finish or teleport and finish

Warrior could use endure pain and finish

elementalist has the reflect shield and whatever the rock thing is called wich can use to finish

engineer eh elixir S and finish ? smoke bomb and finish? nade to death from 1500 range

ranger can use range or simply go invulnerable as well and finish

necro has his transformation he could use to endure hits and finish

guardian has aegis and blocks like crazy

well only class that gets away with the cheap downed is elementalists by tower/keep gates

not downed state’s fault 90% players run glass cannon and dont keep a safety skill slotted in utilities.

Tbh its more an issue against larger groups than your own with fairly large numbers involved, say starting at 10+.
Stopping to stomp someone (or 5 / 6 guys) while 10+ guys are dropping aoe on your feet is just quite punishing. With war banners and rallies the downed system favors numbers quite heavily.
Personally i think the main (and only advantage) groups with more people should have is that they have more people … its already enough of an advantage imo.

Yeah gandara lost about … 80 rating too? Currently ranked below FSP who we’ve beaten pretty convincingly 2 weeks ago (150k ish gap) and lost by 6k last week and before the silly random match were 3 ranks ahead of.

Wish they’d get rid of the half second or so of invulnerability too. The rally system in this game favours numbers way too heavily.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Yes it’s a problem. One of the many problems with conditions. Just go to power/crit like they want you to already.

One of the many problems with the downed system too imo

SoggyFrog.4170:

Yep, I’m probably thinking too far back if my impression of EB pugs is 50 people autoattacking an SM outer wall and completely ignoring what the commander is doing on the map.

Fixed that for you
I remember that time well. Still a few of them mind you.

SoggyFrog.4170:

Hm, must admit that I haven’t given them a look for a while. Maybe all those reset nights with [WvW] have knocked some sense into them.

Tbh i think the majority of the guilds just avoiding the place did them good.
Forced them to get their act together somewhat to compete (part of the reason i’ve taken to avoiding gbl in the same way i used to avoid eb).
A lot of good commanders and just general players knocking about in there that you dont see elsewhere too.
Still a fair share of SM obsessed lemmings but thats probably standard fare for every server

SoggyFrog.4170:

Yeah, I could talk all day about the stupidity of our zergs too. Have you seen the ones on EB? They’re just awful, either they don’t read the chat or they don’t speak English period.

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My asura mesmer was very happy to have one AM thief come and HS spam a couple times to help down that [Ave] ele on EB who just wouldn’t die!

Dont know if you’ve been on EB recently but they’ve gotten pretty decent (at times, they were rubbish yesterday). Think they’ve traded places with the gandara bl pugs in being a total nightmare to lead.

Shifty.3412:

Caid.4932:

PS: are [DeX] – dexterity overload an FSP guild or are they the RoS one? Saw one playing for gandara today

That was me following you yesterday, DeX was the FSP guild which has stopped raiding for now.

Ah k, well hope you enjoyed it and your time on the server

leadustin.1572:

Rookni.2469:

leadustin.1572:

I´am in the mood for a new round with you guys. cry cry cry

I will face you another week aswell. The stupidity of your zergs is just amazing So is the loot. And as long as Dragon Coffers drop so rapidly AM are one of the best servers to play against

Ohh guess you are talking about the random zerg. Hmm the “problem” is, that most of them arent in TS. So its hard to handle.
But the stupidity of your zergs is just amazing too. I could talk the whole day about fails of your zergs. That are the 2 sides of the medal. Win and lose. Nothing more.

Yeah gandaras pugs have gotten pretty woeful really. They have their moments of being good but they’re pretty rare these days tbh.

Well tomorrow is a new match up.
Seriously hope we dont get AM again and im sure they feel exactly the same about us.

After 3 pretty dull weeks im really, really hoping for a good match up as my interest in the game is dissapearing fast tbh.

Terrorsquad.2349:

This is how weak Rage guild is from AM Spawncamping

Not to mention the “support” I get from my own server.. All running away I mean wow, srsly..

At least they’re coming out for a fight

PS: are [DeX] – dexterity overload an FSP guild or are they the RoS one? Saw one playing for gandara today

Sandra Martino.3870:

Thanks XXX for supporting Punk and FSP in taking durios from a 70 blob and 6 AC’s…. Those charges into our catapults really helped.

People from other servers tend to attack you – welcome to wvw

Amelia Knox.9362:

@Manudiao Siege noob here, so if i place the AC direclty on the gate i can hit behind? can you confirm that, so that calling for hackers stops and everybody use that, if you do 2 screenshoot that will be great.

If theres a gap at the top of the gate then yes (cant think of any tower that doesn’t)

Aye with the increased range and radius on Ac’s theres very few ‘safe’ spaces you can put siege these days.

multivira.7925:

I also liked the little jabs at [XxX] in there :P You have to forgive them the somewhat sarcastic comments, seeing how much hate they keep getting, it makes a person defensive.

Yeah it was pretty funny. If your going to take the kitten you probably want to have a pretty bloody good video to back it up though or your just asking for people to take the kitten right back (i didn’t watch the end to be fair, 60v60 or whatever just doesn’t interest me much).

FSV are pretty good in fairness so all credit for beating them.

Can hit a few spots with an ac under the bridge

Moerscho.4012:

dangerdoom.3862:

What is so priceless about that video?
We see a group of wannabees handholding a zerg that already outnumber their opponents by themselves.. You now broke the stupidty-meter guys, enough of this bs please

I´m not entirely sure if you watched the right vid or if you´re trollin? Outnumbering? srsly? Stop lying to to yourself just to justify you “blob-blah-blah-blah”

Did you link the right video?
First fight is FSV with fairly even numbers – a good fight but your not outnumbered (they have 10, its easy enough to count).
A fairly even fight against pugs in garrison but you’ve got siege – yawn
A fairly even fight against pugs at briar in which you nearly wipe, decentish fight all the same
Blob wars at bay and vale – yawn

leadustin.1572:

Caid.4932:

I didn’t run, us and and a dozen pugs wiped you once so you resorted to hiding under ADAC’s skirt. Hide Forrest Hide!
If you dont like people complaining about you being a bore then stop playing like a bore.

Fine u wiped us once. And how many times you´ve got wiped by us? We must not hide. Thats the game. Lose and Win. Both sides of the medal.
And you can complain as much as you can. We will change our game style if we want and not if u want. Or some of the other crying servers. Ridiculous…..

Many wipes for us. Do what you like just dont expect us to like you for it

leadustin.1572:

Caid.4932:

leadustin.1572:

Caid.4932:

leadustin.1572:

Thx alot.

For what? Pointing out that everyone hates you and the ‘whining’ is pretty justified because you ruin the game?

OMG We finally made it! AM is ruin the game. Do u really believe what u wrote? Where can i buy ur pills? They must be fantastic!

rollseyes
You DONT believe it? How many servers do you have to have tell you that your a total chore to fight before you do? Is 5 not enough?

rollseyes back
Just in case that u didnt knew this but AM isnt the developer of Guild Wars 2. We play a way like Anet provide it. And we don’t care if you don’t like it. If u can handle our style – fine. If not. Just shut up and take a break. BTW this evening there was alot of chances to fight us with our guild. And ADAC/Ce. And what happend? Run Forrest run!

I didn’t run, us and and a dozen pugs wiped you once so you resorted to hiding under ADAC’s skirt. Hide Forrest Hide!
If you dont like people complaining about you being a bore then stop playing like a bore.

leadustin.1572:

Caid.4932:

leadustin.1572:

Thx alot.

For what? Pointing out that everyone hates you and the ‘whining’ is pretty justified because you ruin the game?

OMG We finally made it! AM is ruin the game. Do u really believe what u wrote? Where can i buy ur pills? They must be fantastic!

rollseyes
You DONT believe it? How many servers do you have to have tell you that your a total chore to fight before you do? Is 5 not enough?

leadustin.1572:

Thx alot.

For what? Pointing out that everyone hates you and the ‘whining’ is pretty justified because you ruin the game?

KrisHQ.4719:

Just put Miller’s Sound, Riverside and AM is the same matchup, how difficult can it be?
Everybody hates those servers, so please just let them fight eachother.

Millers Sound were fine. Riverside are awesome fun in comparison. I wouldn’t wish AM on anyone

Nauda.3678:

Riverside doesn’t hate us for our playstyle. They hate us because we’re german and we hate them because they’re germanXD. Baruch didn’t really hate us anyway.

This one did.

majos.8503:

Good luck to Gandara and FSP against Blobaddon.. we know they are really boring to play against to…

I’ve seen plenty of criticism from RS for your playstyle too

Yes the skill lag is bad tonight for no particular reason – just one of them nights

My opinion on screens
The gandara blob – not much of a blob, looks like 40ish people? Pug trains tend to be bigger than average. We have blobs though, try eb im sure you wont have much trouble finding one.
Sunny hills ac – easy to hit that spot with an ac at gate and extended radius
EB ac – impossible to hit without cheating.

Tongun.1509:

@caid: ok. Yeah we know that you can see “Bad Play” in this Video. But we do not care at all as Long as we have Fun. Nauda pictured it right “we are having a Party” we Talk utterly nonsense and sometimes do stupid actions on purpose. For an example. A fsp (i think FSV) guild retreated when we took their mid keep and jumped down on a cliffhang… We could have Killed them with AoE since it was Petty obvious that they Want to Kick us Down the Cliff as soon as we Jump Down. Well after 1 Guy screamed “After them!!!” Some of us jumped in their Safe dead (i still do not know how i survived )
So yeah you are absolutely right, about this Bad Play / failure thing but the Focus of Most of Abaddon Folks (when there is such an Event) is to have fun maybe to Drink some Beer and Play drunk. Sometimes gw is nothing but a Big Party

I get it
Nah your right, we have the odd event were we all roll a dolyak and run around – tend not to get as many kills as you, still fun though

I guess i misunderstood the purpose of the event and thought it was an attempt to … mimic a guild group somewhat (?). I wasn’t intending to be too critical, i just thought some parts of it might help i guess.

Tongun.1509:

Tbh: yes we do not care about blobbing.
This Video was an Event, called “Warrior a it’s best”. Just like mentioned before we habe this large scale event with different classes. This serves a simple purpose: Fun. And we had alot of fun.

“Tactics” here means, that we will not use the Same tactics as we would use in small scale groups of 20/30 ppl. We do not have to use them in such a large and Tanky group. It means something different and basic stuff – like combofields. (Yes we have ppl, that do not know of combofields etc – it is the minority of the Players but we do care). So yeah ppl learn to know the skill of the Warrior and how to Play him – on a very basic Level.

Norreka is a good commander and i do not See him very often on bis Warrior. And just like him many more just logged on their warriors from other classes, without knowing the skills and/or builds (and this is -for me- the main reason for the lack of might).

Well Long Story short: we had Fun and played with “Blobbadon” (watch the First seconds of our vid and read what we wrote )

@fsp streamer: “kittening Germans ruined the game”. Sorry for this i know how you must habe felt (since we played against BB – and they are worse when it comes to “blobbing”) You guys did well while defending NE tower. I think we payed you back with lootbags, when we tried to Open the door by musclepower against 5+ AC.

Cheers
“Not Nerd, not casual, just DP”

Well my reply was more directed at Nauda who was referring to the event and comparing it to the TUP video. Tbh theres some bad play in there and saying we ‘dont have to use them in such a large and tanky group’ isn’t much of an excuse for playing badly imo.
Looked fun anyway, some of the issues i’d criticise were unavaoidable due to group size, some could be due to lack of familiarity with the class.

Nauda.3678:

Well that might/swiftness/whatever-via-combofield-stuff is a problem of big zergs: The combo-effect gets applyed randomly to 5 players in range. So what actually happens: Some people get 25 stacks of might and more(timer gets refilled) while others only get low might. Happened to me and a friend during that event a couple of times. One of us got really high stacks of might while the other one sometimes only got a few stacks. It’s nothing new for us but i guess because you guys never run in groups of this size so you never encounter this problem.

It get applied to 5 nearest the person blasting actually, so guys on outer edges tend not to get many, some classes dont particularly need might its best to stack some in the center to guarantee they get might (warrs for instance).
And theres some weird bug (maybe its intended who knows?) if you stand still you tend not to get any of the buffs. You should just strafe left and right in the combo field a bit – tends to spread the buffs out a bit more.

Like i said I think you should play your best all the time as it creates good habits (instead of reinforcing bad ones), granted if its not much of a fight your not really going to bother but you included the fights in the video because they were the best ones you had i presume.
It was you who made the comparison and said it was easy enough and yes a lot of parts of the usual strat are pretty simple and straightforward but you didn’t perform them very well so … think you should give credit where its due tbh. TUP are good at what they do and not everyone could (or can) do what they do or pick it up in an hour.

The difference between them two videos is so spectacularly massive … I just dont know how you can compare them

When you buff fire fields at the start of fights your only getting 9-12 stacks of might. Considering your group size thats not very good.
You dont use veils
You lack stability
You dont flank the enemy you just charge straight into them (and their static fields)
You dont move out of their aoe spike, you just tank it and push through them
You pulled out and reformed once in the video and picked a pretty bad place to do so. They could have moved to the cliff and dropped lots of aoe on your head with your melee having to take a fairly long trek around to get up to them. It took a long, long time to reform too.
The fight was already over at this point so im not even sure it counts.
Your only getting 4 buffs for a lot of the video. 2 from FGJ and one from a proc that comes on a trait.
Theres a point in your video when your in the NE supply camp and members of your party are still at the sentry south of there, this kind of spread is pretty common throughout the video.
When you press an attack or utility its taking 3/4 seconds to work. If there was some purpose to the attack beyond mashing random buttons the opportunity is long gone by the time it fires off.

If a group the size of TUP made a tiny fraction of the mistakes your making they’d wipe constantly.

I dont mean to be too harsh, TUP really are a very, very good group and have been playing together for years …. but … thats just not up to the same standard or even close

You improved as the video wore on and i hope you continue to work on it (apparently you enjoyed it?). Again i dont mean to be too harsh, just being honest … it was good for a pug dominated group i guess

Having said that there is things you could improve. Its difficult to outplay a blob with a blob just due to there being very little utilities or attacks you can use.
Builds and gear do make a difference though and its something your player base could improve on as you seem to have a lot of berserker geared players who die if you look in their general direction.
Again not trying to criticise or put you down – a lot of inexperienced players tend to make the same mistake and when your running in massive numbers it difficult to pick out individual areas that can be improved. Just an observation.

Guild groups do help too. They can just take on and beat larger numbers of enemies than a similar size pug group. They’ll just be better coordianted and familiar with each other and it helps. The points gained at prime time (when guild groups tend to be around and in a position to influence a match) are pretty tiny and irrelevant though compared to the points gained outside them hours.

@ herzeleid

You can have as many reasons as you want to play the way you do (and sure, they’re good reasons) but it doesn’t make it any more fun to be on the receiving end. I can understand why you play the way you do, I still dont like it.
Not trying to be critical, its just the way i feel about it.

Zerging is very effective, honestly you can change the way you play but points wise it wont bring you all that much more success. Its a large part of the reason why I just dont care about points anymore.
BB didn’t beat you because they have more guild groups or because they have a better strategy, they beat you because they have more players. I’m not trying to disrespect BB by saying as much, they have some really, really good guilds.
Guild groups help but having a dozen more players than your enemy in the middle of the night will earn you a hell of lot more points than a really solid guild group. Its sad that thats the case but in my experience it is.
Ratings these days are basically nothing more than a wvw player population stat. You can really push to gain as many points as you can get against servers with a similar population as you and it’ll push you ahead of them rating wise but you’ll just end up against a server with a higher pop than you and theres no counter to it really. You might win for a week or two against them but eventually your players will get burnt out and you’ll sink back down the ratings.
Give it another few weeks against the likes of BB or RS and you’ll come to the same conclusion i think.

Its affected by healing power of person blasting (i dont know how well it scales but i wouldn’t stack healing power for blast heals).

Stability is meant to be the counter to cc

Makes stability too strong a boon and if it gets eaten by boon stripping leaves groups pretty defenseless though so i dont think it was a great idea. Makes guardians too necessary to groups too.

Its not regen or a boon. Its justs healing (about a 1.5k heal)
Blast finishers power and duration (with boons) is determined by person using blast finisher.

People would just start one shotting themselves on retal if they removed the aoe cap anyway. It seems like a great idea till you think about it for 5 secs or so

It doesn’t matter anyway they say they cant because of technical issues so its not going to happen even if it was a good idea

Artemis.6283:

Yeah and now let’s think who really deserves the title “Forum Warrior” =)

Nah I just think the whining should stop, everyone should adapt to the circumstances and make the best out of it.
I’ll just roam with my 5 man blob a little longer on the battlefiled see you there!

Yeah were definitely the forum warriors if either side is. Dont think thats the point hes making (hes not really making a point)
I dont really see it as whining personally. Its banter the same as in any match up thread, we just dont like you so its not friendly banter – its taking the kitten .
But yeah its run its course

Was really tempted to write a similar reply to rookni’s post but ive reached my limit for trolling for one week i think. Have to admit i found it pretty hilarious for an AM player to post that song

Artemis.6283:

Nah never heard of forum warrior, care to explain?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Forum%20Warrior

delahate.4830:

Only AM blobing?
For the english speaken people, it is Far-Shiverpeak

For the record i know gandara blobs, every server does. The thing i dont like about AM (previously) is that i never see anything other than a blob.

Anyway im with ragnar on tonight. I saw a group of 30 AM!!!!
So yes Ill eat my words and say i was wrong, you have something other than a blob and I’m sorry (I’m sure you care about my opinion at this point).
Anyway, looking forward to fighting some of them later in the week

Also lloa dont worry im maintaining our reputation. Some am guy deleted his posts so my replies are gone with them but i assure you they dont like me

Dropper.9176:

Dranul.2094:

I remember Abbadons back in the day during Pikens rise. They used to log off for several hours during prime time, cause they couldn’t fight. Then after midnight, all maps 60+ to get their “preciooooooous” points.

Dont Think you can confirm your " memory " with data.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/25

Week 44 shows it pretty clearly actually