Guild Wars 2

Cheers for fights NP, was fun.
Ran with 12 today and were able to get fights on reset which is weird and brilliant. Used to seeing nothing but 50+ man groups on reset night.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

That issue was cleared up an tbh you should always protect yourself on the internet.

It wasn’t actually the site in the first place from my understanding but the user was banned so its not an issue if it ever was.

Might want to be a bit wary of our TS though : /

Jscull.2514:

I appreciate the level headed talk. So I won’t use my normal sarcastic approach. In all honesty, those things bore the HELL out of the 5 of us. We’re all ex Daoc 8mamners who are used to highly competitive gaming atmospheres so siege is like putting my buddy who’s an F-15 pilot in a Sesna…. Extremely and painfully boring. We NEVER use or get on seige, we’re more effective on our toons than some 3 button device. We don’t play to feel epic, don’t sit on keep walls, we want to kill people. So literally NONE of the updates have done us any good in further development.

I’m against player based masteries too tbh. I realise all the current masteries are catering to a playstyle that is seriously hurting the actual pvp aspect of wvw but its kind of fluff really.
The kind of updates or work i’d like to see them put in to wvw is more along the lines of new maps or mechanics which discourage the current zerg strategy. I dont expect these kind of things to arrive every 2nd week or anthing close but if they have to spend 5 mins or whatever adding a +5 damage against mesmers or whatever then its time wasted on updates that’ll keep me interested (i am a bit sceptical that these kind of updates are being worked on or will ever show up, which is a pity).
Realistically it’ll also favour the zergs more than the small roaming groups too. Zerging gives more wxp simple as that. It’d just be one more mechanic that favour numbers over skill and theres already far too many of them.
Also they’ll either be vaguely irrelevant (so really who cares) or relevant and create a power gap that i wouldn’t want to see introduced. I guess theres a sweet spot between the two but … I’m not sure i trust anet to find that spot.

MaJoBooOM.4851:

BibiLeMoine.2709:

Hey Riverside guys !
To see you always blobbing is annoying enough so… try not to cheat and use zoom hack… It’s ridiculous… Third time this week that I see you doing this… A DTK guildie on Hill on AR borderland this time.

Prove pls ^^ without screens you are All Talk.

Dont mind him tbh.
Dont mean to criticise fellow gandarans but the level of understanding of what you can do with siege if pretty low amongst many of our players.
I’d say about 1 in 50 reports of zoom hacks are actually zoom hacks (at best).

Harmonizer.4210:

The zerg busting guild probably worked their kitten off 30-60 minutes in spawn getting their composition and builds right (also likely waiting on people in queue). Not to mention days/weeks of build theorycrafting.

Basically no. We spend 5 mins in spawn (as do every other guild ive seen) and thats basically waiting on people to log in.
The builds and composition are largely done and dusted tbh.
99% of warrs in organised guilds are basically running shouts with hammer. Other classes might have a bit more variety but they’re providing more or less the same thing.
Composition … theres generally accepted good groups but most do it a bit differently. Most will take whats online on the day too and manage.

Join a guild and practice is the only thing required.
You dont get any practice following a commander in an 80 man group and spamming one and you’ll never learn anything. Running as a guild is initially rough. You’ll die often but it’ll pay off. Its not THAT complicated and you’ll manage if given the time.

Theres been quite a few occasions when I’ve grouped up with other guilds for a night due to low attendance or whatever and you manage despite not really being familiar with the people your playing with.

People are lazy though. They have too high an opinion of themselves. When they get wiped its because the enemy had more numbers. More often than not its because they screwed up. Pug zergs aren’t very good generally, the people in them aren’t really paying much attention and if you dont make mistakes you can beat much larger numbers.

To many game mechanics encourage people to zerg too and thats something that badly needs to be addressed. It really should have been adressed months ago

Dranul.2094:

How’s my favourite love-hate server, no not you Riverside

How’s your matchup. Gandara if you haven’t fought UW, while they might not have the overall coverage to totally compete score wise, they are fun. They certainly love to fight and provide a challenge.

Don’t be jelly of our matchup this week – I just know I’m destined to get something crap soon (previous week was dead, don’t want another one of them).

Hope to get you soon, been awhile :P

Its fun (for us), after a couple of dead matches you learn to appreciate the fights you get, even if they aren’t ideal numbers wise. AR in particular are a lot of fun.
We (dius) only really get going during the week though so looking forward to more

Genotix.6804:

Also Riverside folks showed respect towards us in game but also at the forums.

I dont mind them much, not my favorite server by any means but i dont ‘hate’ them.
And yes they’re a nice bunch in general

zerospin.8604:

Also, outnumbered side should have a 300% buff on AC damage, the blob just laugh at superior AC fire.

Why dont we just give outnumbered side a nuke that one shots everything in the map.

Nice video Ogre.
Adding the 2nd commentator was a nice touch. Look forward to the next one

Myrmidone.4362:

Guys and Girls pls not again thought these would stop since we met you last time, now the whole kitten starts again.
Now this is boring to me and keep generalize once again,discussion ist mostly senseless with most of you.
It is a pity………………….
Wish you a nice Matchup AR and TDA too, i like you guys especially the former dw members, see ya.

Greets Myrmi

No love for us?
Why myrmi WHY?

cries

I dont know tbh.
When you lead the first time or two you’ll probably be bad but its more about sticking with it until you get good. Some people have no patience for newer commanders and you’ll get grief from them so you’ll probably need fairly thick skin to last long enough to get the experience you need really.

Dont mind Rookni, he was dropped as a kid … often.

We’d love a gvg this week, 15v15 – 20v20 ideally.
If your interested contact me or KinkyWarrior.1879

This thread is funny.
3 man group giving out about 10 man group.
10 man group giving out about 30 man group.
We need some 30 man group to start kittening now.

Not our best performance ever tonight but a few good fights all the same.

Hugh Norfolk.2798:

Most reports that we have received were very vague and didn’t give much more information other than the actual objective, but with the help of my QA and what I saw we were able to get a better repro and submit a more detailed bug for further investigation.

So after months of reports about a specific tower you never thought to go out and try and recreate the bug?
… Sorry its hard not to be a bit grumpy about this

Better late then never i guess

ArkAngel.7940:

Pretty much any of them. Just avoid the top 4 or 5 servers.

Well it depends on taste i guess but largely speaking the bottom few servers are considered ‘dead’.
I’d go middle dont get the absurd blobs or ppt obsession but wont have any difficulty finding fights at any time of the day or night.

Pretty much any of them. Just avoid the bottom 4 or 5 servers

Ogre.1750:

I know little of this TUP you speak of… better get to it.

The Unlikely Plan, they were on piken up till a few months back. VII and GG (scnd at the time) were better probably but not by much and they’ve stepped it up a notch or two in recent weeks so could probably give either of them a decent match.

But then i haven’t fought VII or Scnd in a long time so maybe they’ve gotten a lot better too.

Having fought mya quite a bit they could give most / any guild a reasonable fight. 2nd place might not be the right spot for them but they wouldn’t be a million miles away from that area.

Ogre.1750:

Three main runners up, if were talking GvG here. GD, VII and Scnd, in order of importance, imho. Too close or soon to know for sure tho. Any of those three can take it. Plus dont count GH or VotF out.

Again, too soon to know.

Think mya deserve a mention. TUP have been quite a bit stronger recently too (hard to say how much of an impact their recent higher numbers have had though).

Contiguous.1345:

The contribution of particular guilds to the WvW server rank isn’t measured in any objective way at the moment.

Server rank is based purely on coverage. So just take the average numbers they put out and what time they put them out.

Think its worth mentioning that [lion] were perfectly behaved in the gvg tonight, thanks for that <3.
Guess i should mention that we take part in the lion hunt but personally i dont have an issue or lack respect for your guild, its just a … gandara tradition (?) now. A bit of fun. So i hope its taken as a joke when dius do it to you as its all thats intended from us really.
Others players were pretty annoying about the whole GvG thing but seems its something we have to get used to.

Was a great gvg, one of the closest and best we’ve had. So respect to FSV for being good fun.

Otherwise has been a very good match, as good as anyone can realistically hope for these days, so i wish both Kodash and FSP the best of luck with the draw tomorrow.

Detonator Loki.2856:

Xenn.3809:

Detonator Loki.2856:

Here’s an outside perspective:

…lots of stuff, some patronising.

Get off your high horse and actually learn to listen instead of telling ppl to shut up.

Now let me put some parameters to my post
*I (personally) don’t do any GvG
*I prefer open fights in WvW as intended
*I respect other peoples enjoyment of the game
*I been an spectator to such fight sometimes and enjoyed partying and chatting with the enemy
*I find disrespectful and particularly dishonourable to jump / laugh / gesture at a enemy who is been roflstomped by greater numbers
*I dislike thieves, custard and marshmallows

The argument is not about not letting WvW happen and instead GvG, but letting ppl do so if they choose to do it away from where you can have an impact in WvW. [lion] setting a treb with the unique purpose of denying his server guild and an opponent to play in such area (windmill – no WvW objective to treb) is malicious. Actions have consequences, and with all the respect of the world – trolling / hunting / ramming and dancing on their corpses is all well earned

Some say respect is earned – with me, and plenty of people around me – you don’t need to earn it, its granted as we meet and you just need to keep it… and some really work hard to lose it.

Hope you see some good humour from all this, and why trying to spoil someones fun is far away from what a game with a large community is all about.

The problem is that isn’t being addressed: If people are on a PvP map doing PvP expect to get PvP’d regardless of who it is. If people want to do GvG they need to ask Anet for a GvG mode and leave WvW to be played as intended. And in all honesty telling people to shut up is clearly the least offensive stab that’s been taken in this thread. It really doesn’t matter if people are affecting WvW or not, you can’t start making up rules that suite you and expecting to have some kind of authority.

As someone who takes part in gvg’s im not claiming ownership of the windmill area or demanding people to respect my authority.
I do however think that im not hurting anyone by taking part in them. I do think the windmill area is the best place to take part in them.
At the end of the day if you want to go out of your way to ruin my fun, troll me and make my life difficult then you should expect the same in return.

I dont see what the issue is with them anyway. Its in a completely irrelevant area of the map to the siege / points game.

Well i’ve had fun this weekend.
I’d take a match like this any and everytime over stomping servers 9+ ranks below ours
Very little guild events or participation over the weekend so i mostly jumped into 20 man groups solo or dragged some idiot along to die with me.
Seen a lot of smaller groups and good players on Kodash, ive had fun and some of the criticism is pretty unfair imo. I guess i had fairly low expectations though.
Anyway dius should be around for the next few days running 15-20. Looking forward to it /wave

[Tchu] on gandara do, closer to 3 i think really. Couples of other on gandara running small but they’re probably closer to 10 these days.

[team] on AG do too. They attacked our 20 or so a few times and offered more of a threat than some 40 man groups funnily enough.

Theres still a few around.

Told you i wasn’t afraid to provide proof!!!!

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Haha screenshots? Paint isn’t a screenshot nab :-D

It was definitely a screenshot, what is this paint you speak of?

opens ms paint

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Caid.4932:

Morgenes.6985:

gladly theres no picture of me under a ram. (checked them all)

Still no big deal killing support/zerg traited chars with an 1vs1 traited thief.
Or killing those who are trying to catch up to the rest of the group. (we don’t turn around for a single thief)

btw lot of judges posting here, you mad guys?
and grammar kitten above me, blaming others for not speaking correct english, as its not their mother tongue is pretty childish.

Its an in joke / tradition on gandara basically. We find it funny because we find dumb stuff funny.
It started when lloa (kinkywarrior) took a week off on piken when we were fighting them. When we killed him we threw a ram site on his body and vice versa.
We do it to a group on FSP too called lion (just because its fun to have a nemesis). TUP do it to players on our server, we all run around throwing rams in stupid spots and then laugh about it …
were easily amused lol.

Dont take it personally just laugh and take it in the spirit its intended. Next time you kill a jdge player stick a ram on his body and you can have a competition or something.

Please; Not once was I slain by a Random gandaran while on Piken.. a Group yes.. but there was this one guildie who caught me off guard and did get me down… but for some reason he couldn’t finish the stomp. Silly guildie!

… I have screenshots and im not afraid to use them!!!

Morgenes.6985:

gladly theres no picture of me under a ram. (checked them all)

Still no big deal killing support/zerg traited chars with an 1vs1 traited thief.
Or killing those who are trying to catch up to the rest of the group. (we don’t turn around for a single thief)

btw lot of judges posting here, you mad guys?
and grammar kitten above me, blaming others for not speaking correct english, as its not their mother tongue is pretty childish.

Its an in joke / tradition on gandara basically. We find it funny because we find dumb stuff funny.
It started when lloa (kinkywarrior) took a week off on piken when we were fighting them. When we killed him we threw a ram site on his body and vice versa.
We do it to a group on FSP too called lion (just because its fun to have a nemesis). TUP do it to players on our server, we all run around throwing rams in stupid spots and then laugh about it …
were easily amused lol.

Dont take it personally just laugh and take it in the spirit its intended. Next time you kill a jdge player stick a ram on his body and you can have a competition or something.

Honestly, just stick it out. Its an issue (or non-issue) for most servers around this tier. AG is in as good a position as any of us.
Desolation maybe, they’ve had a lot of guilds leave and have maintained their position despite it so i imagine its down to good defensive organisation.

Or if you really want to push up the tiers (god knows why) go piken. Only thing they really lack is night coverage.

Move to vizunah or whatever the 1st place NA server is, sounds like the ‘perfect’ server for you lol

Aye were in q for MS bl with 15-20 come join us

Terrorsquad.2349:

I am surprised seeing Gandara and Miller’s losing lots of rating and RoF winning a bunch.. I’m not in your match-up but I “investigate” all match-up their ratings..

If this goes on like now, Gandara will drop 2 places (FSP only need like 2.5 rating to get AG’s place / which we will surely have, today even) and becoming 15th..

What is happening Gandara? :o

shrug
Its early days, losing to MS by 20k points is pretty standard at this point in the week.
As for losing rating to RoF – well, thats kind of the point of the new match ups – to spread the points around. Was the same when arborstone took rating from you.
Anyway they’re putting up a good fight.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Listening to you guys talk about who is blobbing and what a blob looks like is really poor form, at least from the RoF point of view. You guys have guild blobs that are bigger than any zerg we can put together.

I play on a lower tier server for a reason. I like to be able to roam and I basically can’t move now. I got tired of getting run over by your blobs just one hour after the reset last night.

Oh well, back to the dungeons.

Well yeah were going to have pretty different definitions of what a blob is i guess.
I know it sucks and im not trying to stick to boot in but … we can only play the hand were dealt. If given the option we wouldn’t have picked to be matched up with you.

I feel for you guys but theres not much we can really do about it : /

Wanze.8410:

Caid.4932:

Well, the reasons for using it are fair enough i guess. Still think it should be retired and let die with a new guild set up for upgrades if it gets dragged out every so often.
The original idea of it was to take the kitten out of people blobbing and zerging. Using it to blob and zerg is just … silly.

We have a really rediculously huge group on our bl atm all following one commander and there was 2 of them there able to split it up and it would have been far better to do so (we need someone to cut supply). No siege in any tower or keep, no upgrades running in any tower or keep, no scouts in any tower or keep.

Using the yolo tag ever just makes people play in the most idiotic manner its possible to play this game. Its kind of sad thakittens pretty succesful atm.

Dont mean to kitten on people’s cornflakes and i dont mean to ruin pug players fun. But i really hate fighting against groups like that and i wouldn’t want to inflict a rediculous group like that on people either.

Thanks for the update on yor BL, we will be there shortly.

I really hope you do. So many bad habits being formed that i hope they’re punished and people learn a lesson.

Well, the reasons for using it are fair enough i guess. Still think it should be retired and let die with a new guild set up for upgrades if it gets dragged out every so often.
The original idea of it was to take the kitten out of people blobbing and zerging. Using it to blob and zerg is just … silly.

We have a really rediculously huge group on our bl atm all following one commander and there was 2 of them there able to split it up and it would have been far better to do so (we need someone to cut supply). No siege in any tower or keep, no upgrades running in any tower or keep, no scouts in any tower or keep.

Using the yolo tag ever just makes people play in the most idiotic manner its possible to play this game. Its kind of sad thakittens pretty succesful atm.

Dont mean to kitten on people’s cornflakes and i dont mean to ruin pug players fun. But i really hate fighting against groups like that and i wouldn’t want to inflict a rediculous group like that on people either.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

street.2176:

Yup thats a Guild created after PS crying – Blobbaddon [BLOB]

Well seeing as we haven’t faced AM since the beginning of November last year i doubt it very much as they used to play with smaller groups back then. Also seeing as you are just a Riverside troll who has already been kicked out of our matchup thread 3 times today so far after being reported to mods for trolling, i think anything you have to say here is kinda moot as you are not in this matchup.

On a side note goodluck this week guys, glad you got a better matchup this week FSP. AG c’mon step it up a bit we’ve been waiting ages to face TUP.

Yeah they made it after we (gandara) were crying im pretty sure

Also while i dont think the AG – RS comparison is a good one I do think the anger river glade causes is pretty hilarious so might have to take up calling you that xD
<3 FSP you deserve better, hope next week gives you a match to remember

Have a good match up all

Hule.8794:

I accept you apologie, hopefully no bad blood will be from this and we can be respectfully oponents.

Well …
I hope your just mistaken as its not something i personally approve of and dont think the officers do either.
Was fun, wasn’t on long but some nice fights.

I do like MS, wouldn’t call us best friends, I like them cause they’re fun to kill (or be killed by). Anyway I think your attributing far too much though to our actions. Were like skritt, red names = oh, shiny.

Anyway, hope you guys on RoF find some means of getting enjoyment out of the week. As little fun to be fighting a server that cant really compete against you as its to fight a server you cant compete against

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

Assuming the leaked patch notes are correct:
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Is a nice buff for venom share thieves all the same, pretty good change tbh. I hope they dont go overboard with the necro skill as while they’re in a pretty bad place elsewhere they’re great in mid to large scale wvw.

Because some stomp interrupts require a target to interrupt the stomp.
If they’re in stealth they cant be targetted and cant be interrupted.

Basically the same as a stability stomp or an invuln stomp or a portal stomp etc etc etc

Just limits the number of ways you can prevent them finishing the stomp basically.

I kind of wish the player base would start encouraging double teaming tbh. Its the basic point of making a 3 way match.
Cross server communication to arrange it is vaguely dumb imo, it should just be an unspoken understanding thakittens a good strategy

I think the idea of it is pretty horrible but the implementation (or the rumoured implementation) sounds fine really (in large scale wvw)
Wont be relevant with mesmers really, necro … dont really need it but it could be single target for all we know and in smaller scale stuff sounds like a nice idea actually.
Basically only spec thats going to be relevant with it is venom share thieves.
I can live with that. Wasn’t exactly a damage heavy spec before so no harm really.

Xykris.6758:

Just played around with a skill calculator. here are the 2 builds I was looking at doing (I’m aware these are probably not good in WvW but it shows what my playstyle is like)

Guardian:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUEQJARRlYgCCnGyKEf4ER1j4dP7h9oiZEjXFcIA-jQyAorhoxBGiW2rIas1WioxOAqyGT9SEVbvF0M5K1A-e

Warrior:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQJASSjcOBvFP6OQxBE0DNkL2Czji4HMCVB7A-jQyAorhoxBGiW2rIas1WioxOAqyGT9SEVbvF0M5K1A-e

Here’s 2 cookie cutter builds, for large scale fights. Whichever you end up playing you’ll probably be playing some variation of them

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUEQJARWlUg6CnFyKEf4ERWBRi9AjZsjXPcIFZIA-jADBoLCZUDA0HQcAJL7pIasltht6KalXBRZDT9iIq2eTQzkTpGA-e

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNBiYDbkzJGO5x5BHOggUohZhSRbUHpHiBakGA-jwyAoLhMyBABBiABzBSW2rIasV2ioxqsxUvER12bBNTuSNA-e

Both are pretty similar tbh, warr is more mobile, guardian has better group support.
Didn’t bother with stats but both are capable of doing good damage.

Guardian has a hell of a lot more passive healing, dodge roll heal in particular puts them a million miles ahead of warr in sustaining their own hp. Get a good staff ele (or a good guardian) and warr manages fine though. Guardian is more self sufficient really.

I’d say level warr for 10/20 levels but the kind of utilities, traits and weapons you’ll use when leveling will bear little resemblance to what you’ll use at 80 in wvw

Jayne.9251:

I still see map chat used an awful lot on the maps I’m in.

We use map chat a lot but a large part of the reason is many are on different voice comms. Different guilds have different ts servers etc

Basically no
Theres plenty of well known cheaters and hackers on our server that have been reported in various forms by dozens of people on the server for months. They’re still there, most of us dont bother anymore
Presume for every time we’ve seen and reported them people from other servers have reported them many more times.

They’ve had video’s taken of them hacking, they’ve had party coversations admitting to hacking ss. People have been in touch with support by phone, email, thousands of in game reports …

If they gave a rats kitten they’d have been banned months ago.

You’ll provide a lot of amusement for experienced wvw’ers playing greatsword / rifle warr.
You’ll be useful playing greatsword guardian.

Honestly though
Greatsword warr has good mobility, you’ll never get a 100b off against a decent group without dieing due to aoe and retal but the mobility is very nice.
Rifle warr is pretty terrible, theres nothing good to say about it.
Warrs have great base health, lets them survive the initial engage easier than a guardian but rely heavily on water fields for sustain due to pretty terrible healing ability (guardians will provide a lot of it for them with ele water fields topping them off). Its easier to get solid damage on a warr due to easy access to fury and less stats that need to be filled (you can ignore healing power completely and can get away with less vitality). Warrs are more mobile in general.

Guardian has more going on. Virtues that require some degree of timing. Need to be more careful with positioning on initial engage due to lower base health leaving them vulnerable to spikes. Need to be more aware of your surroundings to provide walls of reflection in the right place at the right time, stability where its needed. Greatsword pulls at the right time (when stability is down or before its up).
You can go from 1% health to 100% extremely fast too and often. Guardians basically go 100% – 0% instantly or never die.

Guardian sounds better for you really. Warrs main wvw weapon is hammer really, they’ll generally use warhorn for blast finisher and group mobility as a secondary weapon.

Really, really hate the torment changes for large scale wvw. Creates a situation where if you stand still you die, if you move you die.
One of the few means of outplaying a larger opponent is movement and adding a condition that punishes you for it is just …
Just please severly limit this condition in wvw or flat out remove it in wvw.

I hate, hate, hate this idea.

Also wish you’d balance whats in the game before adding stuff to it

Huygens.4075:

Condi removal exists :/

If a condition was introduced that instantly killed you after being up for 3 secs would it be fine cause condi removal exists?

Its just a bad idea, it wont add anything positive to the game (in wvw at least).

Idd, movement is one of the few means of outplaying a larger group.
Just dont implement this in wvw PLEASE.

Well … they’ve lost some guilds i guess and it’ll take a while to readjust. Simple fact is that the easiest way to throw some vague organisation and means of competing together is to throw one badge up and zerg.
Pity its as effective as it is and i hope you guys dont stop there with readjusting. Personally if i cared for points i’d be looking to finish last xD. We can have a competition to see how far away we can get from MS and AM lol.

@ Argwulf
Mya did a good job of keeping us busy and away from their towers by giving us fun fights
Pretty early in the night we decided we weren’t going to siege anything and were just going to wander around and kill stuff.

Esprit Dumort.3109:

Apparently no one who plays on EBG reads the forum, or maybe there is nothing exciting to write about when everyone is typically zerging around. :P

Not today though. MYA farmed us Gandarans for a half hour near Rogues Quarry despite our commander yelling at our pugs to stop chasing. While it was frustrating from a battle perspective, I was still impressed by your coordination and fighting skill.

We were there too and had a lot of fun (at times). Had a few good fights with MYA. No commander on the map for about an hour so some of them were a bit silly numbers wise on our side of the fence.
We were going to leave after killing you at the camp / tower near dredge (who’s names i cant remember) but a commander showed up just after and we went back to 20 which was nice.
Few fun fights with NP too. Was a decent evening (for eb anyway).

Karahol.9840:

Personally i would like to see a close match-up points-wise, so to get people motivated to fight all week but it’s not gonna happen. Good luck, Gandara on fighting it out with MS.
Still, us dropping in points means we get less chances to face servers like RS, so it’s all good in the end.

Good luck to all.

Your not that far behind, 10k is nothing (pretty sure we were 2k ahead of you this afternoon, so a few hours is all you need to catch up). Dont ag usually get stronger as the week wears on anyway? Only reward for winning atm is an increased chance of fighting RS and AM anyway as you say. Not much of a reward really is it.

it escalated a tad

Wasn’t enough siege capping of hills in this match so …

We doing it right?

Dranul.2094:

@caid –
So ye I would love to see us delegate a colour BL to – groups running 20+ to one zone, 10-20 and small scale to another, and zergs/commander/community blobs to the other.

Kind regards TUP

Well just stick to ag bl for this match up. Or try, if q’s get in the way then go wherever you see fit.