Guild Wars 2

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

So what exactly was shown?

That the above person likes talking about humiliation lol
Think pretty much the only post master ever makes is how gandara is going to or has humiliated someone.

Bero.2193:

lol sorry, UNITY had a bit of internal trouble recently, just trying to find our feet again

Kind of suspected as much, you just haven’t been very visible lately. Good luck with that, hope your back to your old selves next week.
Also yes, the blobs are easing off nicely. I guess a lot of returning players, players who would normally hang around PvE and people sucked into the wxp train have either gone elsewhere, joined smaller groups or left the game again.
Hopefully in a week or two things are back to normal.

Dina Van Heyr.3018:

Gamgee.8612:

A video from JDGE from last night on AG borders (Thanks peach<3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VYuzbU7puts

so you had fight at camp against pug which you outnumbered and where you got wiped well done
well most of you, rest got lucky and escaped

Errr …
You didn’t watch the video did you?

ankdarkwolf.1487:

The playstyle a lot of servers had till some times ago changed completely.

Idd it did, it was going that way before the patch though.
It seems every server has a blob now, the fights for guilds are elsewhere and if your not finding them on a borderland then go to another. Most of the roaming guilds on gandara are still there and still running the same numbers they’ve been running for months and months (trolling opportunities aside).
The blobs aren’t going anywhere but the fights are still there if your willing to look.

ZStefanovic.2475:

Caid.4932:

I S U P E R S I N I.4761:

I would not say KISS, FURY, RDDT, UNTY are a blob

Everyone else does
They also make jokes saying ’we’re coordinating not blobbing’ when blobbing. (lol perfect example in post above, love the timing)
Haven’t seen FURY outside a blob once since the patch either so your ‘we dont blob, were a roaming guild’ is also pretty amusing.

Need to fix your eyesight then mate. Watch our stream back, you’ll see we run guild only.

Clicked on random point of first stream @ 2.10 … your running with unity … with a commander badge on.
Suppose I could sit and waste 4 hours of my life confirming what i see in the game every day the past week but i have better things to do.

I S U P E R S I N I.4761:

I would not say KISS, FURY, RDDT, UNTY are a blob

Everyone else does
They also make jokes saying ’we’re coordinating not blobbing’ when blobbing. (lol perfect example in post above, love the timing)
Haven’t seen FURY outside a blob once since the patch either so your ‘we dont blob, were a roaming guild’ is also pretty amusing.

crawy.1074:

Thanks for the epic fights! Having great times at Hills nowadays.

The bunny be with you!

Blob v blob fights look pretty dull really.
Sorry,
sure it was more fun to take part in that to watch but you just cant really make out anything

Maybe make a GvG day next week like in the match against Riverside. That was a lot of fun.
We can force TDA to organise it again and do all the hard work while the rest of us show up and hit each other with rocks and sticks and stuff.

Too close a match for GvG, gandara could have today but most weren’t on really and a lot of the guild commanders were in a server meeting for most of prime time.
Maybe next week

CosmicChopsticks.2876:

What do you mean by blob? To me it’s just a huge unorganised zerg of players capping everything by numbers alone. That isn’t what happens on AG.

So its ok to gather 5 billion players on the same spot as long they’re organised?

Capping things by numbers alone is EXACTLY what happens on AG where you guys are involved.

It kitten es me off when blatant blobs claim they’re not blobs. If they want an example of someone not blobbing then look at you guys.
You run seperate (seperate, seperate not 5 yards from another guild) if asked for help attacking / defending something you go help. But you dont gather 50 nearby guys on top of you before attacking. WvW on AG is the same and both of you have nothing but respect from me. I have nothing but contempt for Unity, Fury, Reddit and Kiss and their rediculous attempts to pretend not to be a blob.
I can somewhat understand FSP blobbing, they lack guild groups and (from what I hear) have a lack of commanders, they’re trying to be organised with what they have. Its a bad excuse to blob but its an excuse. Personally I hope they put more work into reorganising than their current win at all costs strategy. They’re good players, i know from playing them ages ago during the match with Fort Ranik and from the few small scale fights i’ve had with them. They’re capable of better with some work.
The AG blob is capable of better too and are choosing to play in the most lame way possible, they have NO excuse whatsoever

CosmicChopsticks.2876:

Caid.4932:

Kuper.2641:

Been one of the best match-ups in a long while, mainly because of the culling changes. All servers have had an increase in WvW population because of the update, give it some time and It will soon be back to normal.

The AG ‘Blob’ setting up for their attack, notice how the 3 guild groups are sepertate and are only together for an attack(Faithleap orange swords). We don’t roam around the map in a giant ball like I’ve seen FSP do all this week. This what we mean by – AG doesn’t ‘blob’ – We only team-up for a reason, then we go back to our normal WvW.

Anyways as always been great fun and I think AG needed a new match-up this week.

I hope your taking the kitten , standing 10 yards apart when no enemies are within a mile means you dont blob?
Your on top of each other at every keep / tower fight, your on top of each other if any enemy attacks one of you. Your on top of each other if your defending anything.
Standing a few yards apart while walking from a to b doesn’t mean jack other than your more organised than the FsP blob.
They have an excuse – they’re a bunch of pugs. You guys dont and should be ashamed of stooping to that rediculous level.
And yes im aware gandara blobs too, the difference is our blob is led by one guild or one commander and a bunch of pugs. All 3 of the guilds involved in your blob have more than enough numbers to split up and give good fights and cap plenty of stuff without resorting to that lame kitten level

I think you have a different definition of blobbing to me. Stacking up like that is just logical, when stacking boons (generally swiftness or might) it works better with everyone on the same spot.

Also, not being in big guilds is no excuse to be disorganised. AG regularly holds open-mic events on the community mumble for anyone to join in for WvW together, not just guilds. If FSP are struggling for lack of large guild groups, maybe they should try this.

Your lieing to yourself. Your a blob. All 3 of the guilds in that screenshot ARE big guilds

Kuper.2641:

Been one of the best match-ups in a long while, mainly because of the culling changes. All servers have had an increase in WvW population because of the update, give it some time and It will soon be back to normal.

The AG ‘Blob’ setting up for their attack, notice how the 3 guild groups are sepertate and are only together for an attack(Faithleap orange swords). We don’t roam around the map in a giant ball like I’ve seen FSP do all this week. This what we mean by – AG doesn’t ‘blob’ – We only team-up for a reason, then we go back to our normal WvW.

Anyways as always been great fun and I think AG needed a new match-up this week.

I hope your taking the kitten , standing 10 yards apart when no enemies are within a mile means you dont blob?
Your on top of each other at every keep / tower fight, your on top of each other if any enemy attacks one of you. Your on top of each other if your defending anything.
Standing a few yards apart while walking from a to b doesn’t mean jack other than your more organised than the FsP blob.
They have an excuse – they’re a bunch of pugs. You guys dont and should be ashamed of stooping to that rediculous level.
And yes im aware gandara blobs too, the difference is our blob is led by one guild or one commander and a bunch of pugs and we admit our blob is a blob. All 3 of the guilds involved in your blob have more than enough numbers to split up and give good fights and cap plenty of stuff without resorting to that lame kitten level.
In future dont bother with the ‘stand 5 yards apart = not blobbing’ while walking to a supply camp, your lieing to yourself and not convincing any of us.

Jacky Nipper.3846:

Geikamir.6329:

Jacky Nipper.3846:

Shout out to [Dius], thx for opening for our small grp AG Hills. Strange u didnt came to fight us when u saw organized guild grp with less numbers than you, do you fight only PU zergs? Anyway we got the Hills so thx.

I’m not sure when you are referring to, but I’m sure it was out of pity.

I kid, I kid!

But for real, we have no qualms about fighting or wiping, especially in small group play. So I would assume we got called to help elsewhere or something. Was this during primetime?

You were like 10 or smt, maximaly 12, around 18-19 GMT, our grps were waving each on another. And we started to chase each other in hills (Benny Hill song would fit to that). And than I lost you from sight so we capped it after some time.

Victory.2879:

It got so bad in SM last night for skill lag I grabbed my warrior and had a blast – for some reason it seems I can use more skills on a melee toon than any channelled or ranged skill when skill lag comes along.

Oh well, 7 months to fix culling, guess another 7 to wait for skill lag to be fixed, and then they might start on all the other issues…

There is a solution to your skill lags and when I see your tag…..
stop zerging so much guys you are making the lag to yourselves

I remember that, we were actually 10 at that point so for a start we didn’t outnumber you. Basically we were concentrating on getting the door down before the FSP blob decended on us. Fighting you at the location you were waiting wouldn’t have been smart regardless as it favoured you heavily and I presume the same was true for you pushing us. We figured you’d come in behind us once the door was down anyway.
Once the FSP blob came we just kited them around a bit and TDA came to join us and we / I didn’t see you again. We were occuped with FSP regardless though so …

Saw a new guild today.
Love the name!

Come back GBL TUP !!!
No fun fights left in here : /

Xiao.1208:

We’ve been kicking your kittens all week, so the fact that we pushed you into 4am zerging

AG dont need to be pushed into 4am zerging, its pretty standard fare for them (not criticising just saying). With the wxp its not entirely surprising some people are playing more than usual is it?
Also find the doubleteam allegations kind of funny. AG are accusing gandara of focusing them on our forums and your doing the same xD.
Wasn’t a bad week, and the blobs seemed less absurd yesterday. Hopefully they’re a bit smaller again today and there was some good fights in there despite the forum moaning saying the opposite.
People shouldn’t get so kitten y about the extra qq over the past day or two. Half if it is trolling, we gandarans do like a good troll. Its a close match, people can say ‘x server sucks’ but they wouldn’t be here or be more or less level with your server if they weren’t good. Anyway take the good with the bad, its all a bit of fun at the end of the day.

james the monk.3851:

All the higher tiers have Mesmer’s that go to the Watergate its a known Mesmer spot get use to it and stop moaning.

Its a lame tactic and a pretty blatant exploit he’s perfectly entitled to moan about it

LionZero.3479:

I’m trying to find some good fights with our 2-5 man teams on camps but all i encounter is the guild groups of 10-20 ;_;

Funnily enough this happened to a few gandara guilds, think its just this tier and even before the crazy blobbing that was the case. I think its a pity actually I used to love that playstyle back in T5/6.

Thing is us 10-20 man groups need supply same as anyone else.
No one needs an [insert number here] man blob to take stuff.
Its overkill and leads to bad fights for everyone involved whether you win or lose. I know being in a new tier can sometimes fire you up and you go the extra distance if you think your going to or have a chance to win but … the higher tiers aren’t really more fun to play in. Its just the same blobbing you see in this tier by every server all day and night and as a result lousy fights.
A lot of gandarans have largely given up on paying attention to score because doing well doesn’t result in more challenging interesting matches, it results in lost sleep trying to keep up, and massive skill lag against (previously) invisible armies.
You’ll learn yourselves soon enough anyway, you’ll get bored of blobbing up im sure because i just cant imagine it being fun for you and your not going anywhere because your good enough to compete in this tier and maybe T3 too where you’ll run into servers sending blobs on to your map at 8am that you’ll need to deal with.

Just saying organising into more reasonable size groups will result in good fights for you as well as us and winning should be secondary to having fun.
The guildzergs you see on gandara today were much the same as yours when we first reached this tier, this tier forced us to get our kitten together to compete. Its a nice bonus that its lots and lots and lots of fun, give it a try sometime.

Well was a fun night, going to stick with the positives and compliment WvW again. Also thanks to the unguilded gandaran thief following us around tonight, did a great job. Sorry I dont remember your name xD.

Hope others got a few good fights away from the blobs, love the culling change the more i play.

Just wanted to say thanks to the imposters [WvW] for the great fights on Gandara bl and trying to keep your numbers down, you made today a really fun enjoyable one for me and the others in [dius].
We were running pretty heavy today with 22 at peak which i think is a record for us.
Anyway keep it up guys, you made my day
Dc’d atm so waiting on q

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

I think this update has brought a lot of people into WvW both from PvE and those who stopped playing WvW due to the culling, in order to see how it is like now.

I’m sure they’ll be impressed
continues being grumpy >:(

Esprit Dumort.3109:

Caid.4932:

Dont know if culling was hiding the rediculous numbers previously but the blobs tonight were completely absurd.
How anyone can willingly take part in that is beyond me

It’s the WXP trains. Big blobs kill people, take keeps and towers, and WXP is passed around like candy.

The blobs are definitely far larger than before the update.

Bleh,
Fun > Wxp.
Pity its basically impossible to have fun when the only thing on a map is a 70 man zerg

Wasn’t happening on all sides dius flat out refused to blob up tonight and were running about with 15 guys. Running was about the extent of what we did though

Dont know if culling was hiding the rediculous numbers previously but the blobs tonight were completely absurd.
How anyone can willingly take part in that is beyond me

[BLoS] you spelt blob wrong, just though i’d let you know

IDarko.4709:

Xaoc joining Fsp might actually be a gamechanger depending on the numbers. They tend to play really early in the morning.

Then i really hope they dont move to you guys, your quite fun to fight atm.
I kind of wish these guilds that play at silly o’clock would move to different server all around the same tier but they seem to all flock to the same server in a tier where they have no competition and can PvD there time away.
Countering Pikens russians was just really tiersome and starting every evening when you could actually put up a fight with T1 keeps if you were lucky while they had T3 keeps with full supply was pretty gamebreaking.

Bleh,
suppose if they moved to you you’d probably leapfrog us and AG and end up fighting piken yourselves and they might end up with a fun fight themselves. Could be good for everyone involved.

Didn’t Xoac start on FSP?
Anyway from an enemy PoV i hope they dont. Dealing with [NUG] and friends on piken was just really, really draining. Kind of sucked the fun out of that match up for me.
Maybe Xoac run at times closer to EU primetime though? That could be fun.

If FSP are lacking anything its maybe a couple of good guild groups, maybe not, I’m pretty rubbish at noticing guild tags and AoA seemed decent the rare time ive seen them. Gandaras were pretty mediocre when we hit T4 and the necessity of getting our act together on that front became apparent pretty quickly as we were thrown into a tier with Piken who had TUP and whatnot knocking around at the time and RG came for a holiday bouncing between us and Piken. Anyway were starting to get a few very capable guild groups going, plenty of room for improvement still obviously.

Anyway I’ve quite enjoyed this match up. Think everyone is being pretty harsh with the zerg / blob calling, theres been a few but plenty of smaller scale stuff going on.
Running with dius has been fun, still pretty out of practice and losing some fights that we really shouldn’t be losing and winning some that we really shouldn’t be winning. Hopefully we can get a bit more consistency going once the patch hits and people show up a bit more regularly.
Been quite impressed with FSP, you look in a good position to beat AG who are no walkovers so its good achievement. AG dont really seem up to their usual standard this week though. Anyway plenty of time left good luck to you all.

Ah well Eze, fun fights at least and were always rubbish on reset. Think i had more fun in the first hour of this match than the entire last week.
And dius had more people on than we’ve had in about a week and a half, managed to get a whole 10 people on!!!
FSP you wouldn’t be here if you weren’t ready for it, first week might be a bit brutal but new tiers are always a good learning experience.

IDarko.4709:

I don’t think we recorded it but from what i can remember, we went through your first push, healed/buffed up really quickly and pushed back again. Because we did our second push so fast, we kinda had the advantage and kept pushing you in the back as you guys were running away from us. This downed a few of yours and caused a snowball effect and made us win the fight.

Yeah pretty much this, we baited you into dropping all your crap, managed to survive it and didn’t let you get settled again.

Well we had a GvG against scnd tonight and got absolutely slaughtered.
We didn’t play particularly well (we were pretty lousy actually, the lack of participation recently has taken its toll) but they were definitely the toughest guild we’ve fought in these things. Gave us a good lesson and plenty of tricks to pick up from it.

qweman.5298:

gandara lol
1.5 hour on your map, lost 3 t3 keeps and most towers
http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/gw009.1363887534.jpg
http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/gw008.1363887573.jpg

Gz on outnumbering us 5 billion : 1, surprised it took an hour and a half with your 52 omega golems / superior trebs / superior rams / whatever-siege-you-used to take it. (I might have no idea what siege you used but I know there was DEFINITELY 52 of them)

(figured i’d put your reply in to save you the hassle)
Oh no there was only 3 of us! and we used only 1 normal ram per keep like good little wvw’ers while the filthy, smelly gandaran horde (at least 100 of them) hid behind their superior arrow carts like the dirty cowards they are. We fought them off valiantly wiping them over and over with our crazy pvp skills.
Lolity lol lol rofl other-laugh-related-memes

(That covers everything i guess, did i do it right?)

Im going to have to insist its AR just to be an argumentative jerk

Xzi.2083:

dangerdoom.3862:

On Angry Rock tonight: 50 [Black] vs 35 [Hob] vs 15 Gandara.. Culling fest ftw. How people enjoy this is beyond me.. This time we managed to get more then 10 people online. Our guildevent ended early because we got hit by invisable trains all night.

Will take it as a complement you thought we had 35, we topped out at 24 and less than that for the majority. Completely agree about the awful culling! Blak’s numbers were mighty to be sure, some OK fights at later on though once we adjusted our style a bit but no way were were taking anything in the zone. Certainly a challenging night for us, but fun nonetheless.

Tanks with a attackchopper and jet mounted on it guilds ftw

*Rollseyes
So predictable
I suppose your going to tell us the commander badge you had on didn’t attract a single pug. Meh.

Your right sabrewalrus, Its an arms race at the minute. If one server turns up with a blob then the other two follow suit shortly after. I actually had a lot more fun tonight running with 10-15 dius than i’ve had on gbl working around the blob led by lloa despite achieving kitten all and running into groups we had no real chance in hell of wiping.
Maybe everyone needs to just suck it up and accept losing to the blobs that show up and not stoop to their level. Its not like any of us actually want to go up a tier (I presume?) and it increases the chances of having good fights away from the blob. Blobbing up just guarantees crap fights for the evening even when your ‘winning’

Endemonadia.8593:

its annoying that player/population numbers are beating Piken and not skill.

Thats bs but whatever, believe what you like

Sigh … total population =/= wvw population. Dont know why i bother stating this as its blatantly obvious to anyone playing the match.
We’ve noticed your night presence is low, what do you want us to do about it exactly?

Endemonadia.8593:

Caid.4932:

I’m sorry but if you losing keeps to 5 guys then your not trying hard enough.

U guys are still not listening… and certainly not understanding…

We have NOBODY online…

Please explain the WvW tactics with zero players cos we really wanna know how to do it.

Well … not much point in complaining then, a server with a 1 man night capping team is going to slaughter you isn’t it. Best get used to it.

Snowstorm.3897:

Caid

Nice video,
Hear you guys are a break-off from GG? Will we be seeing them anymore or is it just you guys now?

Yeah, GG was never intended or setup to be a raiding guild, so we felt it was unfair to be pushing the guild in a direction the majority didn’t want it go, so we split and formed the new guild [Scnd] The people that enjoyed the style of raiding we did came to the new guild, we run 10-20 instead of the old 25-30.

Well no harm, nice to see a smaller size guild, especially one as good as GG running about. Think I moaned a fair bit about the lack of smaller guilds in older topics xD.
Hopefully the rest of Dius show up a bit more this week and maybe we can have a fun fight or two.

Wompage.4586:

Theres too much QQ in this thread.
Lets focus on the only fights that matter, the ones settled in game

Nice video,
Hear you guys are a break-off from GG? Will we be seeing them anymore or is it just you guys now?

I wont argue with you as i haven’t really been on nights this week (those that i have been on you’ve had very few), ive mostly been playing 8am+ but theres screenshots on the forum of 5 guys taking hills and garrison one night, just saying.

A few comments
Gandara’s massive nightcap – Theres screenshots on our community forums of pikens entire map being taken by a 5 man guild group. I’m sorry but if you losing keeps to 5 guys then your not trying hard enough. 1 guy suicide rushing their siege could have stalled them for hours. Your numbers suck but we routinely run into stronger night crews than ours and hold our bl’s despite losing every fight we have, just suicide rush their siege and be annoying enough for them to go look for easier targets elsewhere or go to bed.
We’ve had a few going the extra mile in the last day or two pulling an all nighter so we’ve been stronger towards the end of this week than usual, doubt we’ll have the same this week.

Gandara blobbing up – We did on the last day, no arguments

Pikens daycap being even fights – They’re not, I’ve been on the morning shift a lot this week and we’ve routinely been outmanned on our bl while you held all of AR’s bl and your bl while having double our numbers. We’ve dealt with it better some days than others. Any crying about losing to off peak capping is absurd and makes you look like a sore loser though. We dealt with being weaker numbers wise better than you did, thats all.

We only have q’s on one / two maps – We haven’t had q’s on any map this week except friday on Gandara bl (5 min q). A lot of our more casual wvw’s have dissapeared the last few weeks. We have had decent numbers on Gandara bl but struggle to get any sort of a presence on a 2nd bl, dont know about EB because I’m pretty much never there. We’re in the same boat as you this week, though you have had a better prime time than us.

Anyway, we didn’t really want to be in this tier and the fights against Kodash / Ar and last weeks fights were against a skeleton crew really. It became obvious that we were stuck here and the kitten attempt to compete in this tier weren’t doing much favours morale wise (the comments at the start of last weeks match up thread are a good example).
So we went for it, the original plan was to not come last but through a lot of dedication we won. You had the stronger prime time and with a lot of guilds being cut in half we had to improvise a bit with pug raids – thus the blobbing up. A lot of the more casual players were complaining (justifiably) about not being included so we tried to include them more and what resulted was a bit of a blob.
Apologies for it but … it was an exercise in repairing some relations with the community. Its probably not something i personally want to make a habit of but the if we’re stuck in this tier for a while the odd night doing it would be nice because this tier isn’t much fun for the unguilded players and small scale guilds.

mzt.3270:

This is due to them literally clocking in on rota /sharing time, therefore creating almost 24 hour clock of larger numbers and therefore capitalizing on points – when we sensible euros are tucked up in bed for work the next day.

Have to say Pikens night presence is probably the weakest i’ve seen since T6 or so (numbers wise, not commenting on ability). I suspect that every server in or around this tier will take a lot of points off you at night.
I’d say your morning / afternoon presence is probably the strongest i’ve seen of any server though, (Kodash maybe being the exception) you have a LOT of guilds on at 8am.

So while i can understand your frustration at losing points at night you more than make up for them while most of us are at work and I dont think your in much of a position to complain.

Maybe they should put a minimum rating level in so that T8 servers cant fall too far behind the pack.

No lag tonight in AR bl … but then we had about 20 or 30 in total on the bl.
Was fun anyway some nice teamwork amongst guilds and randoms around redlake and XxX joining later on gave us the extra bit we needed to cap hills.

Also seems to be a bug atm with some people getting lag all the time, a guildie has a 1 second ish lag even when on a deserted map

Vanz.5976:

In VII we do ask friendlies to follow another commander during our guild raids and the reasons for doing so are numerous. Mainly It’s poor distribution of manpower to stick to a guild raid if there are other commanders available and I won’t even start on the hazards of the rally system when you run an average of 15 vs all.

With that said, I like to think we are respectful with our requests. We know VII only plays 3-4 hours primetime, it’s the friendlies who make Piken tick.

XxX are perfectly respectable about how they ask and have listed their perfectly valid, non-elitist reasons why they ask people to do so numerous times. They’ve been getting a far harder time off everyone (especially gandarans, which is rediculous) than they deserve recently.

Endemonadia.8593:

Caid.4932:

VII were saying in the last thread that they try to get rid of the pugs following them so lets not pretend your any different

Ive run with VII group plenty of times and theyve never asked me to leave them alone… and as far as i know theyve never asked or told anyone else to leave them alone. Maybe ur pointing out the difference that our guys on Piken are actually respectful towards fellow Pikens and gandarans r just rude and spiteful?

Sounds to me like VII was just saying that they would prefer to run without puggers but theyll tolerate us tagging along cos they fully understand thats a fact of life in WvW… very different attitude to what im reading on this thread from the gandara WvW guilds who appear to be flaming their fellow gandarans.

XxX are very respectful with how they ask and ghetto is far more experienced than he claims. Hes trolling them, end of story.

Endemonadia.8593:

Yuki Chuki.2457:

I didn’t mind the first time I was told to not follow a group. But it feels like it’s getting more and more often and it’s very frustrating and demotivating if it happens multiple times per evening (different groups).

I only want to tag along and have fun too. What’s the big deal? I keep quiet, I can follow your orders, I give you more DPS and group support, I carry supplies, etc., etc.

It sounds like u guys on Gandara r having serious issues about how ‘pro’ u really are… shame

I can say im a regular pugger (like yourself) on Piken and ive NEVER been asked to leave a guild zerg as it travels round the map, ever!

We are such low population right now for WvW that commanders positively welcome anyone to join their group. In fact i think that there are probably more commander tags with full groups of randoms than there are guild groups on Piken atm.

Like Lloantix/Kinkywarrior says, us on Piken are not leet and certainly dont take ourselves too seriously in WvW, we just wanna have lols and giggles and play competitively. Our ‘leet’ guilds all bandwagoned onto SFR and r now playing T1. But on the flip side u must remember that we are experienced at playing WvW at high level and i would argue that pound for pound we have stronger individual players… lets face it has anyone ever got beat up by an AR zerg thats the same size as your own? :P

All in all Yuki id suggest seriously thinking about moving to somewhere like Piken cos right now we actually need good small teams of players to tag along and join up with our commanders… it really sounds to me like the top WvW guilds on Gandara r having issues with deciding just how pro they actually want to be… never seen that on Piken since our ‘pro’ guilds left a couple of weeks ago…

~Ende~

VII were saying in the last thread that they try to get rid of the pugs following them so lets not pretend your any different, theres perfectly good reasons to want to try and run without the extra players following you around, none of them due to being ‘better’ than them
Gandaras problem is we have a lack of commanders atm so the extras dont really have anyone to follow around. Hell we have a lack of everything last couple of weeks as no one is logging into wvw.

Yuki i understand the frustration but its not XxX’s fault and giving them a hard time isn’t going to achieve anything. We are in need of some fresh commanders so if you feel up to it then go for it. I’m sure many players would appreciate and enjoy following you around.

Was bored so i decided to troll eb with a thief by killing yaks into SM tonight. Died after an hour or two when i picked a fight with one or two too many xD.
GW2 thieves are the best troll class in any mmo ever
Thought it was pretty hilarious that that many went out of their way to kill me while SM was under attack by AR and gandara

Virtually never log onto EB … maybe i should

Snowstorm.3897:

Caid.4932:

Well i’ve seen very little of the piken guilds I’m more familiar with (I’m aware a lot have gone elsewhere). Think I’ve seen [GG] once on Piken bl, we were running about 10 and shortly after starting [WvW] left the map leaving us on our own vs a 20+ (?) GG raid. GG are a great guild and it would have been a really, really tough fight with equal numbers, so it was just a mismatch really. We were a bit sloppy and slow to react to commander anyway on that day so … yeah, weren’t great fights from our PoV. (Having said that you were impressive in the manner you beat us, your pre-fight movement around cragtop was particularly impressive).

Yeah, I remember that, we had some good fights against a tonne of guilds that night. Dius, WvW, XxX, Hail, SNOW, Tohu, Sang, very very fun night. I remember when we killed you at Cragtop, and the first thing I said was, ‘for a 10-15 man raid, their melee train hits so kittening hard’, so respect to you guys We’ve had some good fights all during the week, tried so hard not to group with other guilds, sometimes assisted other guilds in the open if they’ve been heavily outnumbered, but if they’re winning, we usually leave them to it. Obviously inside Garrison, where it was that massive 3 way clusterkitten, we tried so hard to operate independantly, but its difficult when there’s so much lag, so many enemies, etc ^^ so apologies if we’ve ganged up on some of you guys this week, not how we like to play.

We don’t think we grew too much in the higher tier, we think 20-25 is enough to compete (Except against like 40+ ZDs) but we don’t want to adapt to that kind of playstyle anyway. Hoping to see you guys again this week, hopefully with you running similar numbers to us!

And yeah, we were 20 that night I think, with a few friendlies with us ^^

Honestly meant no disrespect to you whatsoever. You seemed to be the only group on that bl and 20 (with the odd random) is a perfectly reasonable number to run around with (would be nice to see some variety in guilds from Piken having said that, your smallest guilds seem to start at 20 and grow from there : /).
Would’ve loved to have given you a better fight but wasn’t to be. Thanks for the kind words, though im sure your being more generous than we deserve on that occasion.
No disrespect to anyone involved with any of the garrison numbers, its unavoidable and with the lag they’re crap fights so you cant ruin it anyway.
I’m complaining about 30 man guilds running away from us when we have 12/15 on. Then coming back with a second 30 man guild 2 mins later and holding each others hand the whole night. You guys got poor replacements for some of the guilds you’ve lost. Im particularly complaining about them ruining the one really, really good fight we’ve had this week against some AR guys that went on for about 10 mins with their stupid blob.
dius btw emiko.

Axle.5182:

Piken disappointing how?

Well i’ve seen very little of the piken guilds I’m more familiar with (I’m aware a lot have gone elsewhere). Think I’ve seen [GG] once on Piken bl, we were running about 10 and shortly after starting [WvW] left the map leaving us on our own vs a 20+ (?) GG raid. GG are a great guild and it would have been a really, really tough fight with equal numbers, so it was just a mismatch really. We were a bit sloppy and slow to react to commander anyway on that day so … yeah, weren’t great fights from our PoV. (Having said that you were impressive in the manner you beat us, your pre-fight movement around cragtop was particularly impressive).
Seen VII once on gandara at water gate of garrison. We somehow managed to beat them, the comments on /m chat and TS were basically ‘how the hell did we win that fight’. They didn’t play well but every guild goes through the odd one and we know they’re better than that. We left that map shortly after because the entire bl was just a lag fest with a 10 sec delay on every skill (if you were lucky) due to garrison lords room fight.
Haven’t seen any others really (hope not anyway, maybe they were buried in the blobs).
The new guilds that have joined your server are frankly lame. We’ve had guilds who outnumbered us 2v1 run away and wait till they had back up from a second guild who outnumbered us 2v1 before engaging. If they dont straight out blob up, then one will wait to one side and tear into your flank or back line 2 secs after you engage.
You seem to have lost a lot of smaller guilds, like the 5 / 10 man camp camping groups so you really need quite high numbers to compete against you, if you dont have the numbers then your left with a pretty crap experience.

Its been a lousy week for gandara and the lack of players logging in could be a large part of the problem. If theres only one group of 10 on the map its understandable that all your guys are going to come kill us, not like they have anything better to do. I could be being harsh, the circumstances of this week aren’t the best for judging you.