Well the grocery chain I go to put out Halloween candy mid August, 11 weeks before Halloween.
That is a great grocery store! Halloween candy is the best!
Here they start with Christmas stuff around now. >_>’’ like . . . wot??
Other highlights from the patch notes include:
-Laurel vendors now sell 1 hour of the new Item Booster, replacing the Laureate Magic Find Booster.
-Laurel vendors now sell 1 hour of the new Experience Booster, replacing the Laureate Experience BoosterSo no more stacking that extra Laureate booster, ‘cause it doesn’t exist.
curls up in corner This patch was less of a patch and more of a dressed-up kick in the spleen.
for 450 gems you can purchase a spleen guard.
You mean if I buy keys I can gamble for one, right?
No you have to buy keys for 150 gems for a chance to activate the protection of the spleen guard.
xD
Other highlights from the patch notes include:
-Laurel vendors now sell 1 hour of the new Item Booster, replacing the Laureate Magic Find Booster.
-Laurel vendors now sell 1 hour of the new Experience Booster, replacing the Laureate Experience BoosterSo no more stacking that extra Laureate booster, ‘cause it doesn’t exist.
curls up in corner This patch was less of a patch and more of a dressed-up kick in the spleen.
for 450 gems you can purchase a spleen guard.
You’re probably one of few who isn’t trotting around with them on right now. >.>’’
@Jester,
Chest drop was not increased. Key drop (supposedly) was.
“Increased the drop rate of Black Lion Chests and Black Lion Chest Keys throughout the world.”
I stand corrected, but the increased drop rate of the chests is insignificant. I’m hoping the key drop rate is significant.
There’s always a reason why increase %s aren’t added to patches and The “where” and “how”.
Let’s see:
1. Have an anniversary sale for the items no one really wanted anyway.
2. Add horrible event, and not only admit it’s horrible but say that you won’t fix it.
3. Take away a popular farm and leave players at the mercy of RNG. And expect them to pay real cash for it!
Yup, this is Anet in promotion mode. lol
So with you on this. At least we got a break on Monday from disappointment, right?
Well it may be true that Key farming was not originally an intended function, but they did make it an accepted practice when they made changes to key farming and stated themselves that the intention was not to ruin key farming.
I personally bought character slots simply to farm keys. I would really like a refund for those 5 slots that are useless to me now.
Oh and yeah in the time I have played from the start of the game I have gotten like 2 key drops. Anet really wants us to all quit playing. And new players, make sure you don’t level more than one character per week in personal story or you are screwing yourself.
Take a deep breath. Their are many many ways to profit from extra character slots if you are not using them.
I already submitted the ticket for a refund. I full well expect them to refuse, but their system changed, and they have made refunds in the past based on changes they made to their system. At this point they are wasting my $50.
Sine you probably won’t get a refund, get them to level 21 and park them at a chest. You’ll get level 20 gear to salvage or sell and the occasional silver doubloon.
In b4 -characters can only open JP chests 1 time a week. XP
Ya i really feel this change will be bad for the overall ingame economy, except for those who have been hording the skins. Just seems like a blatant cash grab.(i know its a business, but still) Would be nice to atleast have the stuff be sellable instead of accountbound.
Lets just hope if they don’t revert the changes that atleast the increase of key drops in game is actually significant, so the change isnt a big deal . . .but i doubt it.
Knowing where and how they drop would of been great to add to the patch notes.
PLEASE ADD A TRAIT THAT GIVES PASSIVE 25% MOVEMENT SPEED!!! After this expansion, Guardian will the be ONLY class that does not have this. Please be fair here..
I wished for this too. Everytime I ask for it someone goes ballistic like I asked for them to be able to fly.
Would pay 2000 gems for bunny ears.
And I would pay the 200 they were the last time they were on sale.
:C
I need them but I’m also stingy.
That’s not stingy at all! I’m just extra-super-desperate
I feel the pain too. v.v all the beautiful colors of bunny I could be right now. and I am no bunny. ;_;
So we understand you want to increase key sales but making them not able to be farmed wasn’t the fix.
-We don’t want to spend 100s of dollars trying to get scraps only to get mounds of boosters + minis we have to throw away because for some reason they are account bound and not mystic forge-able.
-The outcome of a scrap or full ticket is very low. Needing 10 scraps with the odds very low to even get one results in the keys not being worth it to purchase. Needing less scraps would = more sales. Or if the odds were higher = more sales. (Example – Guaranteed 1 scrap + 2 random items = worth buying)
-Putting more RNG into an RNG box is horrendous. We get mini eggs that give us something random (with great chance to get something you already have) and unidentified dyes that usually render a blue-grade worth 1 silver.
-Teleport to a Friend item is simply stupid.
Either fix the Black Lion Chest contents or reduce the price of the keys.
Thank you!
Also please, other players add to what you feel could improve the BL Key / Chest experience! Try to keep it as constructive as possible. THX
@Jester,
Chest drop was not increased. Key drop (supposedly) was.
Wrong.
“Increased the drop rate of Black Lion Chests and Black Lion Chest Keys throughout the world.”
Honestly I would say Warrior is your best fit. I know it seems bland because all other games have one. I also refused to pick one up (and went for Guard instead) because of this mind-set. I tried it though and a lot of the weapon kits were really fun. They have the most weapon options in the game so you can switch it up often when you “get bored” of the weapon kit routine currently equip.
Rev would be another great option (when hot hits live) though its very limited in weapon / legend options. But I find it to be great as a tank especially if you pick up the elite spec and put on some cleric gear.
Anyway! Good luck finding your fit!
Things are looking better but I would really . . . and I’ve heard others say this.
Wish that DH got a taunt of some kind. Why? This would make traps amazing.
Just my two cents. No one has to like it. But I do. XD
The map chat has gotten more and more toxic since the second half of the anniversary sale. It then lead to the event that upset everyone. Then today’s patch didn’t help.
I’m starting to think it’s impossible to find anyone in this game I could possibly get along with because I am more positive than majority of the people I meet. u.u’’
I feel what they should’ve done is just restrict F2P accounts from obtaining keys via keyfarming (or atleast 1 key – per week). Them doing this to vets is another kick in the teeth, I still feel salty I have to pay for the game twice (and no i didn’t receive the free character slot Arena-net feels can make up for this). I love the game but each time they scheme makes the game more and more of a turnoff.
I really don’t believe f2p is the issue here. I think the sale we just had was them testing the market. When they put up keys for a crazy price even then very few people bought them. They then placed blame on key-farming rather than the BL chests themselves and decided to do something about it. Their fail logic is a bit silly this time. It’s the chests that are the problem, Anet. If the keys were WORTH buying, we would.
Free to play comes in and they change a 3 year old drop rate? Of course they’re connected.
How would it have anything to do with f2p when they can’t do anything but purchase the weapons? It’s not like they can affect the market. And if anet cared about people getting keys easily they wouldn’t of kept it that way for 3 years. It wouldn’t be just to SPITE f2p. I am fully firm on it having to do with the sale. Logically it’s the only thing sound.
Free accounts can farm keys
Free accounts can buy skins
Free accounts can mail those skinsA hub account (paid) can sell them
This is how
F2p can not mail out items or gold or use a guild bank to transfer.
Thank you for this. Getting tired of people throwing out how it’s all about f2p when they don’t even know the restrictions prevent them from doing the thing they think is the cause.
I feel what they should’ve done is just restrict F2P accounts from obtaining keys via keyfarming (or atleast 1 key – per week). Them doing this to vets is another kick in the teeth, I still feel salty I have to pay for the game twice (and no i didn’t receive the free character slot Arena-net feels can make up for this). I love the game but each time they scheme makes the game more and more of a turnoff.
I really don’t believe f2p is the issue here. I think the sale we just had was them testing the market. When they put up keys for a crazy price even then very few people bought them. They then placed blame on key-farming rather than the BL chests themselves and decided to do something about it. Their fail logic is a bit silly this time. It’s the chests that are the problem, Anet. If the keys were WORTH buying, we would.
Free to play comes in and they change a 3 year old drop rate? Of course they’re connected.
How would it have anything to do with f2p when they can’t do anything but purchase the weapons? It’s not like they can affect the market. And if anet cared about people getting keys easily they wouldn’t of kept it that way for 3 years. It wouldn’t be just to SPITE f2p. I am fully firm on it having to do with the sale. Logically it’s the only thing sound.
Anet. . .rather than taking away a way to get them; why don’t you take a look at why no one wants to buy them and fix that.
-I get boosters. And no, I don’t really want them and I don’t know anyone who was happy to open a chest with them and ever said YAY. It was more like “really? screw this”.
-I get minis I already have and can’t do anything with it but throw it away. (And I pay for something I HAVE TO THROW AWAY)
-I get “Teleport to a Friend” because that’s just super useful. (That was sarcasm)
-I get unidentified dyes! (Why are they in there? You know you’ll click it and get a 1 silver dye. RNG in an RNG box. Reaaaaally?)Unless the price of keys is around 50 gems each or the contents change I wont buy them. I’ll just farm once a week. That’s more worth it imo.
They also need to take a good look at the key drop rates, scrap/ticket rates from chests, the number of scraps to make a ticket, and the ticket cost of the weapons. Right now, it’s an average of 50 keys for a 1-ticket skin and 300 keys for a 5-ticket skin. That’s $60/$300 or 950g/5600g, for a single weapon skin.
With the key farming, the price of a BL weapon skin (the current, 1-ticket ones) was pretty much in-line with gem store weapon skins. Most have been 600 gems, which you can currently buy for 130g. Compared to direct gemstore skins, the 5-ticket weapons are already several times more expensive. With key farming gone, the TP prices are going to jump to insane levels without another viable method.
I really doubt they increased the drop rate enough to make 300 keys an attainable goal. So expect the only way to get a 5-ticket BL skin to be dropping $300 or 5600g on keys. Unless you really want to complete about 900 maps.
I completely agree. There is so much wrong with the way BL tickets and scraps work it’s horrible. When I first started I thought a ticket was 4-5 scraps and I found that reasonable and I got some keys and tried my luck. Went to turn after months later and I was shocked to find I still needed 6 more. Eesh.
Lotto boxes was done very right by Smite (sorry to be a bit off topic). If felt rewarding to invest in their lotto boxes because you could only get each item once (everything is perma and only skins for things). So eventually after you bought enough boxes you WOULD result in what you wanted regardless of RNGesus hating ya. LOL
This. . . you’re at it for months. and months. For boosters that you don’t even need because the last 20 BL chest gave you enough boosters to last a lifetime >.>’’
Anyway back on the right subject fully . . . if the drop rate is great I will end my complaints and start farming. But if we find that they are just slightly less scarce. . . I just have to keep shaking my head.
Starting to feel like Anets new motto is “Another day, another disappointment”. xD
I feel what they should’ve done is just restrict F2P accounts from obtaining keys via keyfarming (or atleast 1 key – per week). Them doing this to vets is another kick in the teeth, I still feel salty I have to pay for the game twice (and no i didn’t receive the free character slot Arena-net feels can make up for this). I love the game but each time they scheme makes the game more and more of a turnoff.
I really don’t believe f2p is the issue here. I think the sale we just had was them testing the market. When they put up keys for a crazy price even then very few people bought them. They then placed blame on key-farming rather than the BL chests themselves and decided to do something about it. Their fail logic is a bit silly this time. It’s the chests that are the problem, Anet. If the keys were WORTH buying, we would.
Honestly I think its a good change, presuming Arena-net have properly balanced key drop rates all this means is the same amount of keys will be in existence, they will just be spread out among players alot more, and overall that’s a very good thing, I can actually now get keys doing content that is fun
Of course that is a big IF since we don’t know the details on the drop rates, like how often and where
Hopefully we’ll get more info about is.. Key drop chance on Open World has always been abysmal. How about making them drop (with a more reasonable chance) on completed events through the world? That could push more people to make more events here and there..
IF you could get key drops for world events. . . There would be no stopping me! That would actually be great. >.> So great I doubt it could be true.
Would pay 2000 gems for bunny ears.
And I would pay the 200 they were the last time they were on sale.
:C
I need them but I’m also stingy.
Just my luck…stopped right before the last instance on my key farm last night. Oh well, did it today, and at least it will be easy to remember that Tuesday is key-farm reset for me. Lol.
Riiight? This actually though disappointing will be a good thing for my group. They can’t tell me “Noooo we can’t. I dont wanna”
Boy, its key-farming day! You best suit up! We got thangs ta do! XD
Bubbles would obviously go with the (in my dreams) one day playable Largos!
Honestly I think its a good change, presuming Arena-net have properly balanced key drop rates all this means is the same amount of keys will be in existence, they will just be spread out among players alot more, and overall that’s a very good thing, I can actually now get keys doing content that is fun
Of course that is a big IF since we don’t know the details on the drop rates, like how often and where
Unless you’re like majority of gamers who will have to find a way to get them consistently somehow and will be farming whatever gives the best odds over and over which will render the same situation as the original.
It’s good that they stop the key farming. I saw a clip on youtube that someone farmed 1000 blacklion keys, that’s just crazy lol
So someone worked hard for something and you’re too lazy to do the same so you’re glad he can’t anymore?
Are you also in favor of nerfing SW chest farming? Geez.
Anet. . .rather than taking away a way to get them; why don’t you take a look at why no one wants to buy them and fix that.
-I get boosters. And no, I don’t really want them and I don’t know anyone who was happy to open a chest with them and ever said YAY. It was more like “really? screw this”.
-I get minis I already have and can’t do anything with it but throw it away. (And I pay for something I HAVE TO THROW AWAY)
-I get “Teleport to a Friend” because that’s just super useful. (That was sarcasm)
-I get unidentified dyes! (Why are they in there? You know you’ll click it and get a 1 silver dye. RNG in an RNG box. Reaaaaally?)
Unless the price of keys is around 50 gems each or the contents change I wont buy them. I’ll just farm once a week. That’s more worth it imo.
I would like to suggest
-Bunny Ears
-Bunny Ears
-Bunny Ears
and
-Bunny Ears
Don’t worry I’ll be back with more of these great suggestions since the threads got merged!
I’d really like to meet the person who selected these items and shake their hand.
They are truly a Master of Disaster. <3
Worst sale ever. Why they even extended it is beyond me. ANet could’ve made so much more money off items players actually wanted, not even bunny ears, but armor sets, character slots? Our opinions as always, fell on deaf ears.
Glad it’s over, now if only MaC (Mordrem are Coming) will end so we can all begin to forget…
Yeah. This is exactly everything I was thinking. I don’t understand why it was extended other than it was easier to end it the same time they end this god awful event.
I’m really passionate about the games I play and the companies I do business with. After this last week of junk in the sale + the horrible event I am actually just so disappointed that I don’t know what to really say that could be constructive anymore. :/
Technically White goes with anything.
I would never suggest more White though. It’s overdone and makes you look a bit boring to look at. But I love rainbows. So what would I know! XP
Best option is to pick colors based on your weapon skins to tie things together, tbh.
I was surprised they didn’t add new stuff like the data mined back pieces and the new hairstyles!
Probably because the new hairs aren’t ready. I mean only 2 races got any atm.
Why did they even do an encore?
It gave everyone hope they’d listened to the feedback of being let down only to be let down again. This + the current event . . . honestly what the hell is going on over at Anet?
Can’t take this serious. The grammar and spelling is awful.
Why would you craft someone a 18 slot bag when it’s cheaper to give them the money to buy candy corn cobs and buy a 20 slot?
The reason why crafting isn’t shared is because it’s more expensive to craft something than it is to buy the item you’ve crafted. Until that changes crafting itself is basically nothing but a major gold and time sink for end game results.
Now I know where the term “Hot mess” came from. :o
Can we get an explanation as to why this event can’t be changed in any way? I mean it was coded in in the first place. . . what stops from it being edited what so ever?
I’ll eat everyone’s luck, please ;_;
Review of the Event
-Rewards selfish players who waypoint after tagging and punishes the team players who bother to revive.
- Rewards not equal effort involved. Will actually lose more gold waypointing + getting prizes vs anything that can be gained.
-Duration for each event to start is extremely long and painful
-Makes the players who want everything from the event feel discouraged because there WONT be enough time for the prizes they want.
-Mobs are easily taken down and many on every map I’ve been on get 0 credit after 3-4 tries and give up.
-Some of us can’t even afford to buy prizes because of the Gold charged. I’m trying hard to earn something to pay for it a second time? First with my time, then with my gold? Odd.
Suggestions –
Make the buff increase upon Vine destruction, Not just tagging.
Increase the bloom gain per buff
Add karma gain and experience.
Increase duration of Event to make up for time lost
Remove Gold charges from prizes
Add minor drops to the mobs (Even perhaps a single bloom or two)
Decrease the time spent waiting for each map to start to 10 minutes tops.
Make each occurrence harder and longer to achieve.
(edited by CandyHearts.6025)
When you mute your voice you also mute the storymode. They really need to make them separate.
I just hope Treehearn turns and we get to kill him.
You really want to take Trehearne’s Job?
Nope, but I would be delighted to see someone, almost anyone, else have it.
Me too. Treehearn is obnoxious. I really hope he turns. Then that sword will finally be mine!
The only way I find this event fun is to only do it for the daily reward. I get 20 blooms for showing up + whatever I can stack. After this, I quit. I try my luck at getting dyes from the Scarlet box. Reign <3
Then go back to what I do normally.
This event feels like questing from any other MMORPG. Kill mobs, return. Kill mobs, return. And that wait between maps is the most exciting thing about the whole ordeal. xD NAP TIME!!
It’s not just the grind part that makes me a bit salty. It’s the gold prices. As if it wasn’t enough that I must waypoint constantly to get the most out of the event (there goes a good chunk of silver) but the prices I must pay in gold for the prizes themselves.
It could really stand for some improvement. I’ve invested more into doing the event than I’ve gotten out of it. And as someone who cares about new players experience I can’t imagine this being their first event and them really wanted to partake in the next. Please for the love of the players new and old at least give some response.
It’s not as if we are greedy, we just want to enjoy the event. Which isn’t too much to ask.
Mini White Stag
Mini Rabbit (Not to be confused with the Jack-a-lop)
Mini Kryta Drakehound
Mini Alpine Wolf
More Quaggans!
I would have to agree, as well.
The bickering and complaining never stops in map chat. It’s too toxic for me to want to continue.
New players will get a bad taste in their mouth.
We can wait. Please just take it down and fix it and allow everyone to enjoy it when it’s brought back up. Thank you.
Arguing back and forth is negating the point of this thread.
Be respectful of the OP and take it to private message.
I ended an event with 14 stacks. I stayed, revived players, put up boons, and dps’d.
Someone else on the map ended with 27 stacks. Just Waypoint jumped.
Confused why an event rewards poor team playing over working together as a group. o.o’’
I know I cant change everything, was just suggesting maybe a few of use could divert a little of the bad.
It’s a great sentiment that I share completely.
Sadly it wont change even when the event is unbugged. There’s always something. But ah well! As long as we have fun who cares! xD
Here’s the thing Ren, I didn’t see any “toxicity” but I did see a lot of annoyed and disappointed people, and those people who are annoyed and disappointed actually are the community. The new players are seeing just what they’re getting into. That’s actually a good thing.
No offense sir but after a comment like that you’re not deemed a good judge of negativity. o_O
My brother is pretty new to this game (full account, though, no f2p) and his first character, a thief, is level 78. He’s done lots of mapping and some WvW. He has saved all his mats from mapping in preparation for crafting. The little gold he’s accumulated from mapping and WvW he’s spent mostly on T1 and T2 cultural armor. He’s got like three gold right now.
Now he logs in and sees that not only does he have to do a ton of work (offering no exp or rewards) to get enough tokens for these cool old skins, but he needs 5-10 gold as well for each. I’m not about to say “oh, well, you need to grind dungeons fast so that you can get those before time is up.” Pretty discouraging for new players.
TL;DR event rewards should be earned solely from running the events. If the events aren’t going to drop gold or items that we can sell for gold, then the rewards shouldn’t take gold either.
Yes yes yes!
I’m sitting here. I’m pretty much a vet I would say. And I am holding onto the gold I got. I can’t afford the prizes, either myself. The event because of the gold sink is just so lack luster.
I can’t imagine how new players must feel. It took me a long bit as a new player to get that first 20 gold. And it’s much harder under level 80. They recommend character level 18. . . new players at that level would show up and be like ? what?!
Poor things. :/
I have been known today to tell people to keep their moaning to themselves. I wanted this to be a fun social thing and I couldn’t pay attention to map chat after about 10 minutes. It was grossly toxic and draining away at my happy attitude.
Let’s unite and blast them with some carebear stares! xD

