Guild Wars 2

Yes there are Halloween recipes, they were briefly shown in a video. You can find it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4QM57ri8fE

Terra.8571:

Nodes are character bound and AN have said in the past they have no reason to change this. I have multiple farming toons and they still remain character bound.

Thanks, this thread can be closed now.

Hi there. Over the past week, I’ve been leveling up alts, so I can gather orichalcum and ancient wood, to refine and sell on the trading post.

I had no issues before, but for some reason, when I went to gather today, no nodes had respawned. I’m going to assume this is a bug, but I could be wrong, which Is why I decided to ask the question.

Thanks.

Honestly, if linsey does decide to make changes on the acquisition for the pre-cursors, it likely won’t be until after the the halloween event is over.

For now, it’s better to just play the game instead of jumping on the forums and fighting among each other, well, at leas that’s what i’m doing =P

Crafting is not worth the time unless you want to level up characters by doing it, or are pursuing a legendary weapon, in which you only need 2 specific crafts at level 400.

You’re better off just buying items on the trading post to gear up.

Yes elderan, I have a guild member who put 3 exotic warhorns+ a mystic forge stone and got “The Legend”.

Yes, if you want a dawn/dusk, you better put in 4 rare/exotic greatswords. If you use the mystic forge stone you can still get a precursor, however since the stone acts as a substitute, the item you get back will be random in type.

Here’s a link to a bunch of dungeons with all 3 paths included. Once again these were done by Norax and are from his livestream, so they aren’t youtube videos.

http://www.livestream.com/norax/folder?dirId=312bed53-564c-4ab0-a4a5-7df2579e7c52

I’ll be working on more dungeon guides starting early next week, a few people in our group have had to deal with real life, so we had less time to do dungeons this week.

LoneWolfie.1852:

Oh. Well I thought you hinted it (especially when so many others are hinting they are going crazy about it) when you outlined that many reasons, and if that’s not the case, I’m really sorry about that.

No problem, I’m glad we overcame that

LoneWolfie.1852:

Archer.6485:

LoneWolfie.1852:

I think many people are underestimating the price of the precursors. It’s called “LEGENDARY”, not some exotic that should require a fixed recipe. Do I think the market is shocking? Not really. Guessing from Lindsey words, the odds that one should get it from the forge has to be at least 400-500 G budget and above (where you can sell the other exotics and get a refund of 100 G +), and if the precursor’s price goes over 400 G on the market, then the devs will probably increase the odds of getting the weapons.

Legendary is supposed to be a legend, not some common place weapon that you can find on the streets. If you’re fated to have the precursor, you’re given the opportunity to work on it for months to craft it to a legend.

What’s remarkably funny is that you’re 1 month in and wish to get the legendary weapon in another 3 months, instead of 3 years. Sheesh.

You are a LEGEND (in both nerdism and dedication), if you manage to craft it.

See, it’s people like you that really ruin the conversation. Stop assuming how much time and effort we want to put into a legendary. Literally NO ONE said they wanted a legendary in 3 months. This is a thread with hundreds of posts and you still somehow manage to comment about things that do not exist in ANY of them (or anywhere else on the forum for that matter).

This is a thread personally geared towards getting a legendary with a FIXED gold amount between whatever Gs they want it to be, stop pretending like it is not.

The amount of people who lost only 100 g are whining like there’s no future for GW2. If people are screaming bloody murder after 500 g loss after half a year of hard work, I might be inclined to say something about it, but right now everyone seems to lose it or thinks they should be entitled to have a set recipe or have higher odds. GW2’s legendary weapons are probably less of a hassle to get compared to WoW (some people claimed the first legendary came out only after 9 months in wow, and the drops are also abysmal) or Lineage 2, so excuse me when I think that legendary should be harder to get.

OP states that she/he wants more information on getting a legendary item with a breakdown on rares/exotics (what??!), market manipulation, “exploits” (rofl), Alpha testers (lmao) and demands compensation by form of punishment, limitation and information from the devs.

People are constantly testing ANet’s system by trying to get more goodies from the dungeons, finding a way to inflate the market and underselling each other. So are you going to seek punishment for the people who attempted to get more from the dungeons? Let’s have a ban grenade and ban 20,000 players who did that. Or some chili poppers thing I heard about. How about this guy who made the first triforge pendant, posted it on the forums, made a profit of a super cool 180 G, should you ban him too?

Tsk. The users cannot be faulted when it was ANet’s oversight and willing buyers. Grow up. Real life isn’t so easy. You win some, you lose some. If you hate the fact that ANet couldn’t respond in time, then control the market yourself and be a “good player”.

I think if some of you are to try and play Eve Online (notorious for zero dev control towards market issues), you will break your keyboard in frustration after getting backstabbed by anyone.

Actually, I never demanded anything. If you read the post and comprehended what I said, I explained why players are frustrated over the entire legendary pre-cursor debate.

The reasons I listed hold true, and you can find multiple threads and posts where people use those reasons as a basis for their frustration and anger.

I’ve already accepted that having no set recipe makes Legendary Weapons more scarce therefore living up to the legendary title. I have no issue with it, and I will continue to put greatswords into the Mystic Forge until I get my pre-cursor.

Archer.6485:

LoneWolfie.1852:

I think many people are underestimating the price of the precursors. It’s called “LEGENDARY”, not some exotic that should require a fixed recipe. Do I think the market is shocking? Not really. Guessing from Lindsey words, the odds that one should get it from the forge has to be at least 400-500 G budget and above (where you can sell the other exotics and get a refund of 100 G +), and if the precursor’s price goes over 400 G on the market, then the devs will probably increase the odds of getting the weapons.

Legendary is supposed to be a legend, not some common place weapon that you can find on the streets. If you’re fated to have the precursor, you’re given the opportunity to work on it for months to craft it to a legend.

What’s remarkably funny is that you’re 1 month in and wish to get the legendary weapon in another 3 months, instead of 3 years. Sheesh.

You are a LEGEND (in both nerdism and dedication), if you manage to craft it.

See, it’s people like you that really ruin the conversation. Stop assuming how much time and effort we want to put into a legendary. Literally NO ONE said they wanted a legendary in 3 months. This is a thread with hundreds of posts and you still somehow manage to comment about things that do not exist in ANY of them (or anywhere else on the forum for that matter).

@Celestea
Isn’t it a bit strange that you mentioned a price cap as one possible suggestion (even if an unpopular one) yet are completely against a fixed recipe which would already have a static price and not have any problems with the black market or be subject to any kind of manipulation.

It’s only a suggestion Archer, As I said earlier, it could create more problems if they put a cap.

Strill.2591:

Alpha Testers
The first person to technically(bugged temple) craft a legendary was an alpha tester. They were ahead of everyone else in regards to how to get the pre-cursor as everything besides the acquisition of it was changed.

If you’re referring to Xalkyriez on Henge of Denravi who made The Bifrost, then that’s absolutely false. He specifically told me he bought it on the trading post for 25g very early on.

Put a reasonable cap on pre-cursors
This is a very difficult suggestion to implement, as I personally don’t think anyone should tell someone what their item is worth.

What it would do is let people know the items’ value and give them an idea of how much they have to work to purchase it. As it is now dusk is around 300g, I can’t see many trying to buy it if it continues going up.

It would most likely just lead to people ignoring the trading post and spamming map chat which could lead to scamming and various other issues. I don’t really think this is a good idea, but it’s an idea.

tl;dr People are mad and want pre-cursors. Give them numbers,or cap Pre-cursor price.

No. Price Ceilings are always a bad idea. If you added that you would see NO precursors on the market because the sellers would all move to black markets in order to sell them for the proper equilibrium price. Those sold below equilibrium price on the trading post would be bought up quickly and used or resold on the black market. This would all but guarantee that only elites would get the precursors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_ceiling

Yes I am talking about Xalkyriez. If you checked out his stream and read the topic he made before he edited out the alpha tester part, you would see he made a lot of exotics weapons through the forge, which is why he could afford to purchase The Bifrost.

This was because of the knowledge he had as to how to efficiently make exotics through using the Mystic Forge.

Your last part of your post was already addressed in the point I made, so there’s no need for you to bring up citations.

@ChairGraveyard, there is an ignore button. Click on the person’s name it it shows up.

Starting to think I’ll go for sunrise. Thanks for the video though.

lackofcheese.5617:

I think finding out the odds would be a good idea; we don’t necessarily need the devs to tell us those odds either.

If we get tens of thousands of trials done across hundreds of players and share the information, we could easily get the statistics we need. Also, working together to get that information would be a lot more fun than just being told the numbers, I think.

The only problem with this is if a undocumented change is made, and we start getting conflicted results.

I don’t really think we’ll even get the numbers from a developer though. These types of things tend to be kept secret, and left for the community to find out.

I would also like to say, keep this thread constructive. If you have an argument as to why a set recipe is a better idea, or have another solution(s) please give a constructive and concise reasoning as to why. Don’t just say you want it.

280 exotic shortbows? I think it’s time you just bought the precursor.

I’m still going to try putting exotics into the forge myself though. It would be great if we could get more stats out there and see if we can find an average amount required.

Wahaha.7938:

If the prices on precursors keep going up and you can’t afford one – it means you’re not good enough to have a legendary. As Legendary items they are meant for the BEST players. They are NOT a long-term goal for half of the population. If you disagree with this… then too bad I guess? You don’t get to say how this game should be. And the current situation is how it should be. As stated by some other people in this thread, legendary items should be indeed legendary (you know the definition of the word legendary right?) and not “half of the players in the game own an item with the legendary tag”.

HOWEVER, given the fact that precursor supply isn’t limited, more and more of them will be created in the game. Eventually the best players will all have a legendary and at that point the mediocre players will be able to afford precursors. So in a way it still is a viable long-term goal for many people.

Did you really just post that the best players in the game are those that can afford the pre-cursor, especially when there is a method implemented that allows real money to be converted to in-game money?

You should think about that for a second. Players are allowed to voice their opinion, it is up to the developers to decide whether or not their opinions correlate with their game design.

I will try the non-unique exotic you mentioned later on this week. I will post the results afterwards. Hopefully your theory holds true!

They’re going for around 4g right now on the TP, not sure if I want to buy 4 and try it out….

How can you assume it has a 100% success rate when you only did the recipe once?

@Cisza, yea that makes perfect sense, now that you explained it. How many onyx lodestones did you average after all your TA runs?

Rng, my friend.

Cisza.9540:

Exotics can yield up to 5, with higher chance on 1-2 than rares.

That’s interesting. I’ve never seen someone get 5 ecto from an exotic, I guess it’s because nobody has dared to try so, besides you.

1 million was the limit before.

It’s really not that hard to gather those materials. You get ectoplasm from salvaging yellow items level 70+ and you can get 0-3 depending on the salvage.

You can get orichalcum from nodes that spawn in Malchor’s leap, Frostgorge Sound, and Cursed Shore. Same thing with the Ancient wood.

It takes maybe 2-3 days of farming mats to get a full armorset of exotic gear through crafting. At least, that’s how long it took me when i first hit 80.

Those helmets aren’t exotic though, if you are purchasing the ones that are 30 tokens, they are rares.

Well, that’s unfortunate. Darn you uder =P

Keep trying, it’ll be worth it in the end.

Uder.9187:

Celestea.4105:

Your friend got lucky, I have met people who put 71’s random exotics and level 80 rares in and got precursors on their first try. It’s purely luck unless arenanet say’s otherwise.

I know that he was lucky, but still the chances should be higher the rarer the item is right?

It’s possible, but we can’t know for sure. We’ll have to find people willing enough to sacrifice =P

Your friend got lucky, I have met people who put 71’s random exotics and level 80 rares in and got precursors on their first try. It’s purely luck unless arenanet say’s otherwise.

Please note that this is my personal opinion, and it doesn’t mean I’m right. These are just my thoughts on it.

To begin with, I want to get some things out of the way as a few posters might have recognized my posts in this sub-section.

Originally, as I continuously threw exotics and rares into the mystic forge and received nothing in return, I began to question why there was no set recipe for the items in the game and voiced this opinion on the forums. My opinion has changed on the matter, and this is why.

I have a friend who originally foresaw what would happen and purchased his dusk when it was still 60g, by selling every single item he had in deposit and well as in his inventory.

My friend is now almost complete his twilight, while I have the majority of items except Dawn/Dusk as well as the gift of x weapon, as I want to see what I get from the mystic forge before I work on that component.

Fast-forward to today, we get into a debate about this and I bring up having a set recipe for the weapon. My friend disagrees and I tell him he’s only against it because he already has the weapon.
For obvious reasons he gets annoyed, and tells me I am entitled and that having a set recipe would only ruin the game in the long-term and explained why.

After his explanation and examples from past games he gave where changes like this were made to a game, I realized he was right. Having a set recipe would only ruin the hunt in the long-term, and here’s why.

Legendary Weapons are meant to be very special, if there is a set recipe, that means everyone will eventually be able to get it so long as they invest the time in to it. You might say this is a selfish reasoning, but think about it.

The way it is right now, the other components aren’t very difficult to get as is. If a set recipe is introduced, a large amount of grinding will have to be introduced to justify it. I am afraid that if the requirements aren’t too difficult, lots of players will be running around with a legendary in 3-6 months.

I feel like there is a lot of reasons why people are feeling so much anger and frustration and this is because of a few reasons I will try to outline.

Lack of Information

There is a severe lack of information as to how to get these weapons, besides through the community’s efforts to figure them out. The only ways we know are the following:
1. Random world drop and from Temple events in Orr as well as Claw of Jormag.
2. (Post-patch) players reported only getting precursors from 80+ rares and 71+ Exotics.
3. Purchasing from the trading post for 200-300g.

It would greatly help if we could get some information or a breakdown on which level of rares or exotics gives us a higher chance to get a pre-cursor. This will help the economy and player-base get a better understanding of what their chances are.

Alpha Testers

The first person to technically(bugged temple) craft a legendary was an alpha tester. They were ahead of everyone else in regards to how to get the pre-cursor as everything besides the acquisition of it was changed.

Exploits

There was an exploit where players could use level 65 rares in combination with other higher leveled weapons and got a higher chance of receiving a pre-cursor through this method.

Their items were not destroyed.

Possible Market Manipulation

Nobody can confirm that it is going on, but many believe players who did the sword exploit are now controlling the market for these weapons. This can not be confirmed, so it’s a sketchy point.

Possible solutions

Let players know the odds

Right now, it’s a mindless gamble and there are so many differing opinions as to what item gives a higher probability of a pre-cursor.

I truly believe if people knew the probability of getting a pre-cursor and what level of item will give you a higher chance, the complaints would die down, as players would have nobody to blame but themselves if they received nothing from the Mystic Forge.

Put a reasonable cap on pre-cursors
This is a very difficult suggestion to implement, as I personally don’t think anyone should tell someone what their item is worth.

What it would do is let people know the items’ value and give them an idea of how much they have to work to purchase it. As it is now dusk is around 300g, I can’t see many trying to buy it if it continues going up.

It would most likely just lead to people ignoring the trading post and spamming map chat which could lead to scamming and various other issues. I don’t really think this is a good idea, but it’s an idea.

tl;dr People are mad and want pre-cursors. Give them numbers,or cap Pre-cursor price.

Mario Lemieux.9107:

578k karma in 6 days? At the rate you explained thats 57.8 hours….nearly 10 hours a day.

A great method. But surely you need to take a break or something?..

I study a lot, so I spend some time looking at my screen while doing homework/reading. =P

Hador.2753:

I went 0/12 (6 exotics, 6 rares) on Ectos as well yesterday afternoon, after getting like ~10 (out of 9 salvages, 1 yielded 0) in the morning. Smells a lot like DR to me.

Just out of curiosity, why are you salvaging exotics?

It depends how much you bought the items for, and how much the item you get is going for on the trading post.

The days when my friend was doing this he didn’t make profit from getting level 78’s, only from getting level 80’s.

lackofcheese.5617:

You shouldn’t expect to get one from only spending 100g. If you do manage to get one from spending that little, then you got lucky and that’s awesome, but it’s hardly the expected outcome.

Also, the amount you’ve spent up until now should not be a factor in your decision-making, except insofar as it helps you to estimate the odds of getting what you want (and in this regard, you’re better off using data from lots of other people instead of just your own).

Including it as a factor would be falling for the sunk cost fallacy – that money is already gone, and no decision you make now will change that fact, regardless of whether you get Dusk/Dawn or not.

Also, make sure you don’t fall for the gambler’s fallacy – the Mystic Forge doesn’t care how much you’ve spent; your odds don’t change just because you’ve spent a lot of gold already.

This right here is good advice. I recommend everyone listen to this man/woman/cheese.

@ DarkyKillah
3 exotics+stone gives you a random item back. It will not always be a Greatsword, which is why if you want a certain precursor, you have to use 4 of that identical item type(Greatsword,Mace,Shield,staff etc.)

@Wazabi, I think it has more to do with how the people got the legendary rather than anything else. If you played the TP, you deserve all your money and items.

If you used exploits to get gold or precursors, then no.

I would just say if you’ve spent over 100g, to just start saving your money and hope the price doesn’t increase too much. It’s your only safe bet at getting the weapon, unless arenanet decides they want to add an alternative(unlikely in my opinion).

What’s your point here? Anybody can do this it’s only a matter of using common sense. Oh mithril and silk go together, and craft a level 80 helmet? Oh, I can also salvage that helmet to get ectoplasm?

The only people that are against this, are those that were using it for their own gain.

After looking at the ectoplasm market, seeing people spam 250 ectos constantly in LA, as well as seeing the supply jump extremely high, I decided to do some theorycrafting and I think I figured out what people are doing to get so many ectoplasm.

I made a video which can be found Here

But i’ll outline it here as well

1.Get a tailor/leathworker/tailor that is level 375
2.Make mithril helmet lining/casing.
3.Buy or farm t5 crafting mats.
4.Make intricate insignias.
5. Craft Helmets
6. Salvage Helmets for ecto/gold

I crafted 15 helmets and received 17 ecto from them. If you farm the mats all by yourself or a rich to begin with, you will never lose money besides from having to purchasing the spools of silk from npc’s.

You can also do this with level 80 rare Dungeon armor as they only cost 30 tokens, so this literally costs nothing for people who just do dungeons, besides repair costs.

Just another one of those things that some players are keeping hidden from the community, and I thought I would post it here for everyone to know, it requires a bit more work as you’re more likely to lose money if you don’t farm the mats yourself.

I don’t see the server’s being reset until monday, when they usually patch the game.

Yes those ones

Ectoplasm and Crafting Materials, as they are higher quality. I agree, it would be nice to get a dev to confirm this though, so we can end this once and for all. :P

I find the Black Lion Salvage kit gives me much more ecto from salvaging yellows, I’ve done tests myself and I average more ecto when I use the Black Lion Salvage kit.

Same goes with the mystic salvage kit for salvaging yellows, I get more silk and gossamer. I’ll run my own tests and post the results later.

Yes Black lion kit only gives you a 50% chance at rarer materials such as ecto. I don’t know about you guys but i’m average 2-3 ecto per salvage of yellows. I just salvaged 10 yellow’s and came out with 17 ecto.

OmniPotentes.4817:

Personally I believe Alpha testers should be prohibited from playing a game until a few months after release, to prevent them from profiting of previous knowledge; because let’s be honest its gold hoarders like these that drive up prices; manipulate and break the economy. In real life that’s the way it works on the stock market. Your not allowed to participate if you have previous knowledge that might give you an unfair advantage over others.

Well, I disagree about them not being able to play for a few months. They were the ones who tested the game for arenanet, and without them we wouldn’t be able to play the game as smooth as it is right now.

What I do think they should have done is change the way you got legendaries completely, but I suppose they left it this way to reward the alpha testers for testing out the game.

Cisza.9540:

“I’d love to farm my eyes out to get (…) something to (…) get precursor.”

Farm money, buy precursor.

Nice work leaving out the components part of my post. I’ve already said If I don’t get it on my next attempt, i’ll just to do that, farm gold and purchase it when the price stabilizes.

Well, looks like after I save up enough gold to throw in another 28 exotic greatswords, I’ll be done with going for this weapon.

The very fact someone has 8 Dawns and 6 Dusks in the inventory is enough for me to call it quits on trying to get this weapon. I’d love to farm my eyes out to get components or something to put together and get the precursor, but the devs disagree, and belive it’s fun/joyous to gamble with the Mystic Forge.

I’ll just stick with a fancy looking exotic, until the prices become realistic and I can purchase one.

There’s nothing difficult about putting in 4 rares, geting lucky and receving a precursor. It’s RNG.

Ah yes, this boss. The first time we fought him we had trouble, but after that it’s not a difficult boss fight. If you have someone in your group with retalitation or skills that reflect projectiles the fight is extremely easy, just requires on person to attack him in melee range.

You can find myself and my friends fighting him here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1rQZKI048M&feature=player_detailpage#t=2178s

Also make sure if you decide to use condition damage, it has very short duration, otherwise it will be all for naught as he uses them to heal himself.

I hope this helps, if you want to see it on explorable mode, just let me know and i’ll post that one too.

I do understand why most would find this fight frustrating though, especially for pug groups or casuals who just want to get through it for the story.