Guild Wars 2

They are attacking people from across the room at times, 600-1200+ range away.

Any time I’ve failed this event, or failed something in CoF, or wiped/died in CoF, it is always due to Rangers who don’t know that Healing Spring is a party heal, Elementalists that don’t understand what Staff/Water attunement can do for a party, Thieves who don’t know what a Shortbow or Clusterbomb is/does, Guardians who don’t know what Hold The Line is, Great Sword Warriors who don’t know how to be mobile, etc etc etc.

Learn to play issue.

Just because you want to have a personal metric of reward that goes against the specific metric the OP was discussing, doesn’t give you a valid complaint.

You’re just disagreeing to disagree.

Ah, VNG was the one handing the bags out on Friday. We had fun in JQ territory because it was just stomp after stomp, but then we pulled back and prepped for SM after it was flipped for a bit.

Yeah I really don’t know how many times people can say that the SoS that earned T1 is the SoS that was in the lower tiers – only we lost PRX and their entourage in the process and proved them to be a non-factor to our success.

It gets old, the martyr complex gets old, and worst of all the ruining of T1 until you collapse just because your feelings were hurt for 3 months is incredibly selfish and indicative of the type of people running JQ.

Being objective is too OP for some, and why not when it’s much easier to nail your arms to a cross and kick your feet at your persecutors.

I would imagine somewhere not the US because DTG’s make his butt sore.

shortcake.8659:

Thoughts.1987:

You guys are the reason they took out the golems in a box…increase CD don’t remove fun toys.

So if they sold an item that instantly killed another player but had a nice long cooldown, it’d just be a fun toy that should still be in the game, right?

No.

Technically Golems could instantly kill a player – as it scaled with your power I had it doing more than a backstab if it crit, 2 in as quick a succession as they could be cast would kill nearly anyone but a tanky Warrior.

We had JQ Thieves abusing culling in EB Overlook earlier today using the Spikefruit, stun locking people as they tried to come out and get into the fight.

“I got 30-40 kills with an item that stuns people for 3s in an AoE”

“I felt pretty good about it.”

Is this why I get a lot of laughs from JQ when I get killed 10 on 1? Delusion?

It’s a learn to play issue.

Most people I get in PUGs who are 80 are being carried, obviously they would not be skilled enough to defeat a dungeon if they weren’t 80.

Again, there is no reason that confusion should proc on swapping attunements.

An Ele loses as much health swapping to water to cleanse as they gain by swapping to water.

JQ still being the king of “Oh I saw so and so exploit so I authorized my entire guild to do it”.

We are aware how many people you had online your first reset back in T1.

Maybe it wasn’t 50, maybe it was 40. Maybe 30. The total number is not as relevant as the stack in a 3m area and wait for your characters to not load so people run right to you unsuspecting of any enemy presence. In fact, it was completely impossible to tell the exact number for the reason I stated – I can’t tell how many people are in a 3m area when there are so many that my screen turns completely red.

The good thing was that this is easily countered. It was a surprise people were still doing this and we see it with SoR now as well.

Condition effecting things like swapping attunements and not swapping weapons is something they should look at changing at the very least. (In terms of making it not effect swapping attunements)

waeren.9743:

Esoteric.5490:

Oozo,

The patch was never an actual fix. It is really a reallocation of resources, a trade, if you will. It is highly likely that individuals are judging this patch based on the false pretense of “fixed culling” when in actuality it simply shows more enemies and less friendlies, which I don’t see how that makes WvW less playable. There certainly could be a bug, you know, in addition to the absurd queues and pop caps.

For the record, someone has to play the devil’s advocate here.

Riven,

Yes it’s not a fix but the change they made is horrible.
When running with HB and a couple of other people following us we into groups that turn out to be up to 5 or more times larger then we see initially all the time.

The new system is so easy to abuse. Just stack up with 25+ people and the other team will only see a couple until they’re in hit range.

The old system was horrible when you had a big group but at least it was consistently horrible and it was better for smaller groups. The new configuration is so random you can never figure out what’s going on until it’s too late.

You do understand that this is because HB puts 50 people in 3 square meters of space, abusing the very thing you’re complaining about, right?

Be in a party of 5, do minimum damage, use CTRL or ALT to find bags of loot after you wipe a group.

Drop rate is now ~1/4 – 1/5 badges/bags. Jobs that do AoE (cleaving or casting) can tag the most people, I generally have an easier time getting bags on Warrior as opposed to Thief due to the nature of the two jobs. This reset night I had 500 kills on Thief, on Warrior it probably would have been closer to 900~1100.

Why did they leave if they terrorized us?

Seems more likely they were tired of getting rolled. Their statement to SoS/JQ when they left could be summarized as “We’re tired of losing to you guys, we’re going to go beat up on someone and roll/PvDoor them because that’s what we’re used to”.

wondo.2870:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Well it kind of sucks that one one will ever be able to dethrone JQ until people get bored and inevitable quit. Some of those guilds that transferred to JQ should have dispersed to SoR, SoS, and BG for much more even match ups. The way this is going we will just have servers fighting for second place like SoS is doing right now. Anyway the weekend match up was awesome and I am looking forward to more of those in the future.

SBI wvw guilds dispersed to JQ, SoR, FA and Kain. And some remained on SBI

7 to JQ, 7 to SoR, 2(or 3 if you count WM) went to Kain, 2 went to FA.

Churchill.8714:

I wouldn’t really be afraid of Kaineng. Warmachine is a terrible guild and anyone from SoS/JQ knows they are no real threat. They couldn’t hold SBI together (or push them over 3rd place) and they certainly aren’t going to take Kaineng past there either.

I wouldn’t talk about something you clearly know nothing about. Or talk about a guild you know nothing about. And for the record SBI got two second place finishes in the SoS/JQ/SBI matchups.

I thought SF would never abandon SBI?

Like I said earlier – the guilds from SBI that went to SoR and didn’t follow you are much better representations of the people who carried SBI to any fortune they had.

SF and Warmachine are bag dispensers.

He (or someone else) also flipped our northern towers on SoS BL earlier too.

Like reverting culling back to not the wintersday version.

It would help if people posted if they had a crappy PC or not – I imagine the new system is better for them.

For the rest of us not running N64’s it’s unanimously worse.

Edit: Not to mention, PVE culling on empty maps? lol

The WvW maps had less culling with 60 vs 60 vs 60 man zergs than I see with a 5v10 at a supply camp now.

Was this the same recruitment that didn’t get SoS guilds until 2000+ people went to JQ?

Was this the same recruitment that had PRX and its bandwagon followers leave us?

Then those 10 weeks happened.

Stovokor.9368:

coronbale.3894:

Great recruitment once again JQ, enjoy roflstomping whatever poor T2-T3 ends up getting glicko-screwed into your tier next week. Well be back around to face you again soon! Until these ranks get sorted, it’ll be a bizarre set of match-ups. Eventually SoS will get the coveted BLUE portal on T1 slot, and we can keep those great open field fights coming!

you will be doing the same roflstomping onto similar servers. Not much difference to them whatever T1 server they end up against.

ps. recruitment is only reason that resulted in prior 10 weeks for SoS

what? lol

elkirin.8534:

IMHO, it is NOT a conspiracy. SoR is playing well and SoS is doing what it can. I still see a very good number of SoS out and playing their hearts out. JQ with the exception of 2 weeks out of the last 11 weeks, has always started out slowly the first 72 hours.

SoS had queues on 3 maps at times last night in oceanic, either good numbers were out or a querk, either way, the fight goes on.

Most likely bug, we couldn’t even escort a Dolyak into hills before outmanned SoR came and took it back.

I have enjoyed fighting the SBI guilds that didn’t follow the guys who would never leave SBI not now not ever not never ever never than the one that did. Much more of a challenge to go up against.

Ha
thirteen characters

Not liking David Bowie…lol.

BIEBER AND BEYONCE FOREVER

You could have asked, “How does higher level grouping work? My experience thus far has shown me that I can’t just smash my face against my keyboard – are there roles, healing, how does enmity work?”

Two sentences, subtracted all the anecdotal and irrelevant portions and made a clear point that someone might actually read.

Instead, I had to see a grown man type “boi”.

SBI still finding a way to be irrelevant.

sigh

From 4 months ago? Are you obtuse?

Did someone say Golems?

PRX/SF/Rage all in one? Too good.

I’ve roamed and culled and I’ve refuged my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of Dessa’s laboratory
And all around me a voice was sounding
This dolyak meat was only made for me

(PS I’m sorry I didn’t get the other 3 of you in the screens)

Several weeks of volatility =/= reducing number of players on a map by 67%

Culling has been reverted to the Wintersday path version as it is better than it was before and is completely fixed…what’s your point.

CorvusRex.8349:

This is necessary for world completion, correct? Anything necessary for world completion should be obtainable by anyone without having to involve themselves in PvP. People who like PvP can still have PvP, myself being one of them, but people who just want to finish their jumping puzzle should be able to just finish their jumping puzzle.

I’ll agree to this when I can finish World completion in WvW and not have to PVE.

Mine will be easier, as will the rewards, but whatever. AC P3 is impossible guys, why can’t I finish the jumping puzzle(((

You have no right to finish the EB jumping puzzle.

I assume you mainly PVE and are trying to get your Gift of Battle. That’s cool. We’re trying to WvW, and you being in EB takes up a spot for a more worthwhile addition to your server.

As far as JP’s being an alternate source of badges, maybe – I think they are rather a source to get them for more low-pop servers who don’t get big fights and badge farms. I’d rather see them give no badges and any gold related (Legendary) requirements removed aside from the Icy Runestones and all stages be related to in game achievements. Complete all the content the game has to offer at a high level, get a Legendary.

3 things:
1. Revert the game back to the culling system before this last patch. I’m not sure why we went with the wintersday update as a fix, but it was bad then and it’s bad now. There is culling in PVE in an empty zone now.

2. Something definitely happened tonight in regards to cap size, all of our maps were queued within seconds. Our server is a spam “F” and stare into the dark abyss server on reset night and we still never have trouble getting in because our borderlands are assigned in such a way that we have the guilds spread out. We still saw only 50-67% of our guilds get in and that’s never really happened before.

3. This isn’t just a T1/high pop issue. We are aware of what a reset queue looks like. We know that the queue sucks and the best way to get into WvW is to reset your queue every 20m. The issue was the population that actually got in was lower.

If the issue has to do with people not logging out, it still doesn’t address why we couldn’t get people in at reset.

I think the results show the true intention.

Then why is culling present in PVE zones now? And why is it now worse in WvW?

>WvWvW ‘pros’ who see red circles created by multiple people
>>run into red circles
>>>die
>>>>???
>>>>>AoE is a bigger issue than culling

Ioflux.4369:

randomfightfan.4091:

Don’t think this is a bug but instead a buff. And yes it is new

I dont think being attacked by something that you cant see is ever intended. I just think its divine retribution for all the times people have been bugging him.

You must not have ever played WvW.

Oh you’re right.

And when I die in dungeons I don’t expect to still get loot for failing to stay alive.

Maybe he shouldn’t have died

If people wearing greens/rares are no longer using GW2LFG then this patch is a huge success.

I love when my AH/Hammer Guardian has a Ranger or Ele in the party and I don’t see a single blast heal field anywhere but in the back – not to mention the lack of heals I get from AH with the rest of the party also being in the back and no where near me.

relevant to 99% of people you’ll see playing those jobs.

I loved our 2 to 1 advantage, it helped us defeat JQ by 3-30k every week.

We are just terrible players on SoS, we had twice as many people but JQ kept it close every week and could have won every week because they have far superior skills than SoS – I mean have you seen SoS in open field combat? SBI used to destroy SoS every time no matter what if it was open field. It could have been 5 SBI vs 100 SoS and SBI still would have won.

I’ll miss those days when SoS had queues 24/7 from Monday to Friday in every borderland for 30-60m because of the population advantage. I’ll miss our population advantage during NA time where (primarily) small NA guilds held the PPT across all 4 borderlands after Euro/SEA times when SoS’s 2 to 1 advantage fielded no guilds or commanders and JQ routinely was 400-550 PPT.

It was a crazy ride to the top.

Killver.7653:

Smokee.1754:

There´s cookies in SM.. Any takers?

Wow you really get kitteny after taking SM back?

The story behind it:

VoTF taking SM
VoTF wiping HB
HB leaving map bcz they cry
VoTF leaves map
HB comes back
HB takes SM
HB happy

I like our VoTF pals

Might be looking in the wrong place friend.

I cannot realistically fathom why people would look down on AC lol.

P/T/V gear, P/T/V weapons, all good stuff to start with or build around if that’s what you’re going for and it can be done relatively quickly and transmuted later if that’s your thing.

The point was not that you need Exotics and Runes to succeed, but that if you are having difficulty or joining a PUG (an unknown in terms of skill and surviveability) then it is a waste of everyone’s time to not be showing up in Exotics/Runes and then dying and wondering why – especially if you’re currently in Blues.

Like everyone else, I didn’t run my first dungeon in Exotics, but I was in a guild group and the first things I asked were “How do I notice/dodge that” and “what do we do here”. My first set was also P/T/V AC gear because I didn’t feel I was proficient enough to rock full berserkers (And shout Warriors are really nice in WvW).

You can’t really say you dethroned SoS by transferring 2000 players to your server when at best SoS outnumbered you 9:8 previously…lol.

That entire premise, HoD redux, was what SoS was attempting to avoid when free transfers were announced.

It is a pity that JQ did not.

Try running P/T/V gear with T/V runes until you’re comfortable with being more specialized in your build.