Guild Wars 2

Lol effective use of veil doesnt need buttload of unity.

Unless of course you consider sticking to the commander pin buttload of unity.

In the NA time zone, JQ is starting to have queues on 4 borderlands at all times. The wait time is not long, but the queues are there.

Actually, people are banned for reports or even following other bots in a DE. Those get unbanned in a few hours after an appeal though. however, I honestly think this blanket ban is better it serves a purpose to deter people from botting.

Btw, how does the potion affect culling? I’ve seen a whole zerg on SOS BL all using the ghost tonic and I saw them fine from far away.

ROFL, I see 30 agg guys running around with ghost tonic and suddenly its JQ thats abusing the potion?

Thobek.1730:

JaredKincade.9761:

Black Gate is in the exact same boat, except you guys also picked up Never Die.

We picked up no one. On top of that SOR picked up the vast majority of what was left of SBI and we are getting squeezed between you guys. If SoR stayed the way it was and actually earned its rise in rating by gaining rating against SBI without the transfers, BG would have stayed in tier 1 for weeks, as it stands we will get pushed to tier 2 this week or next.

As bad as it seems for your first place team, its about 10x worse for us.

if you do ever drop to T2 its because you’re not playing to your strengths. By having less numbers than the other two servers in tier but large enough to make an impact you could of focused on one server and slipped into second place.

It happened in the weekend but then you stopped focusing on JQ and therefore slipped to 3rd.

You don’t have to have the greater numbers to make an impact you can simply align yourself with another force. Its WvWvW afterall.

But its a little too late for that now.

If BG wants to stay in T1, they should be hitting whoever is no.1 in the ratings (currently SOS and maybe JQ later on).

They have to remember, the smaller the gap between the top team and the other team, the higher the rating will be.

Actually rangers are very good 1v1, but if built this way they suck in group fights(not even zerg fights… ).

But if they are bulit for zerg fights, they suck 1v1 lol so they become easy pickings.

outmanned buff = 2v1 incoming on your team on that map.

It’s basically saying we don’t have presence here, so take our towers!!

I was just here lol, if passing by = camping.. I guess we were camping spawn.

I agree with this somewhat. If stacking crit(with knights or even berserkers) on my guardian instead of healing power heals me more with omnoms in wvw, there is something wrong here. I stopped using healing power gear on all my characters unless the rare times I roll staff ele, because using omnoms heals me more than having 500 more healing power.

We don’t have many aussies, but we already have a crap ton of SEA presence with additional guilds coming in. We are currently losing a lot of points because we have so many blackouts to bring all the people in, not because we can’t hold them when we actually have people there.

kKagari.6804:

If blackgate loses this time will they drop to tier 2?

If the score difference is big enough between whoever is no1 at the end of the week , it is possible, as SOR’s rating is pretty high right now. Howvever, it is just a possibility and if BG keeps up with JQ and SoS, they will probably stay in T1. Although next week , if SOR gets another score boost from stomping everyone in T2, BG is going to have a hard time.

I don’t know how SOR is in non NA time, but unless they can field a minimum of 2.5 maps worth of people at all times(i mean 24/7), they are going to find every single one of their keeps and towers reset daily in T1. This has nothing to do with skill, but thats how it will be.

Hopefully they give us whips in the next expansion. Nightmare Court whips look pretty awesome.

haviz.1340:

Do you know how many AoEs you mentioned aren’t AoEs per say? Is Greatsword autoattack AoE now?

Actually it is aoe.

So… basically what they are saying is since they probably won’t change the rez speed, but don’t want people to attack 5 people that are rezzing downed players. Lol… they don’t want people to be able to stop the enemy team from rezzing? Or do they want single target burst to be even stronger(thieves.. hm…) to be able to stop the rezzing by attacking the downed player?

JemL.3501:

JQ had SM and was constantly hitting pangloss and golanta as well…but np, so no JQ wasnt doing bad in EB, till sandwich happened.

As a JQ player..and playing in T1 since forever…this is the first time ive seen two servers literally waiting in the spawn of the third one just waving each otheri supose it was SoS take SM and BG the Keep.

And no a 2v1 has never happened, even from HoD/SBI/JQ/ET other than delusional accusations from all sides…never ever saw a green server, do a culling gank to blue server which was attacking red tower and which the gate was about to go down…for just walk away after blue is dead insteand of stealing the tower.

but just in EB map dunno the others, this is fun anyway…but be less obvious and dont deny it and nobody will QQ

Actually SBI and JQ did this to SOS a couple times when I was on EB so we could flip the keep and reset the wp. Although the length of it this time is quite long rofl.

Miiaah.5416:

mrchips.9154:

lol make no mistake they aint gonna be fighting each other they are gonna do exactly what they have been doing and saying they are doing this week and that is hit BG and hit it hard as they have already said its easier to get ppt from a weaker server than hit the no1 server etc they will roll BG before they hit each other make no mistake.

and please dont mistake this for a 2v1 whine it isnt just stating the obvious.

This, JQ waited 6 days to even touch SoS, I expect more of the same playing for second

OK if JQ never touched SOS, why doesn’t bay keep at SOS BL have a wp? like ever?

oh.. I guess since SOS and JQ are teaming up, SOS doesn’t bother upgrading JQ side keeps and towers.

oh.. I guess since SOS and JQ are teaming up, SOS doesn’t bother upgrading JQ side keeps and towers.

actually there is a way to stay forever in corpse mode. Normally it tell you that the client will kick you out unless you go active, but there are ways(not glitches) to make you “active” without rezing

After all the guilds finally transfer over, its going to be interesting to see who is going to win between JQ and SoS. I feel kinda bad for BG though , this has to be the worst timing to announce paid transfers for them. They come up and try to recruit to be competitive in T1, but the announcement completely screws them over.

the zerg in the video is terribad.. all they had to do was just walk up to them and press 11111. however, they failed to do so because they didn’t want to risk the 0.1% chance of having a repair bill.

Meditrinas Faith.8320:

Numbers arnt the only answer. Playing with heart and great leadership. The more team players vs glory hounds is also a key. SBI seemed to roll over and die to often. not sure why that was, but thats how it looked to me. BG has more potential. IMHO.
All this crazy talk about the 2 servers (#2 and #3) teaming on #1. Nonsense.
Take the easy points. If #2 is all up in #1’s face you can take points from them. SoS BL is the battle ground. Has been for a while. The main fighting forces seem to be on our home turf. There are other ways to sneak points off the other 2 servers without having to mass up all ya got for flying headbutts in a battle field. Its crazy to think #2 should only buck @ #1. Watch your back! Im waiting for the day a #3 came and took it away from #2 cause they left the poop chute open in their pajama’s! Gonna laugh all day on that thought.

You obvious don’t know how ratings work… absolute points don’t matter, only relative points.

Also, the AOE damage in this game is not high at all. They only hit hard when the caster is in full berserker gear and guess what? they make the tastiest targets. Certain characters like 30 water eles(not even full bunker) or guardians(not bunker) can just stand in the AOE passively regening forever without using their big heal if the AOE caster is using a balanced build.

Seriously, if the game system makes it attractive to bundle up in a single ball to mitigate AOE damage, you know it is wrong. Basically this is like “Grenade!!! All of you come over here and bundle up so only 5 of us die and 30 of us live even though we are standing on it!!”.

greyblue.4962:

I find balanced power/condition is good for mesmers. That way I I can shatter down glass thieves, but still confuse guardians to death. But then confusion is really strong in WvW.

Only reason confusion is usable in WvW is some people that run with the zerg(or tunnel visioned thieves) have no idea what confusion does and will spam their auto attack.

Otherwise, Power Prec Toughness is better for most DPS characters and mix in a few soldiers gear(depending on base hp).

Master of Timespace.2548:

Jee E free.5891:

I don’t mind the PvE content like Quaggans, Hylek and Dredge as it actually does give benefits to the overal objective. However PvE content like event bosses, grub and jumping puzzles leads people away from the actual competing aspect where the whole WvW is based upon.

If they are willing to make WvW a PvE grindfest then I am pretty sure that while they ensure more PvE’ers come to WvW that they will entirely kill the PvP population willing to play that aspect of the game. And in order to have fun match-ups you basicly need a hardcore WvW community.

Personally I probably will not bother with WvW and Guild-wars 2 anymore if they add stuff like this to WvW and make in a complete mess filled with PvE people who come there not to help the server out but to mainly get personal rewards themselves.
Think if they want to do this they need to add a Guild vs Guild option instead so those actually playing for the fights still have the opportunity to actually do so.

But just why should a player x give a flying kitten about who wins at the end of the week? Maybe they don’t care to join the common pursuit of “abstract numbers that reset every week”. Maybe they just want to hunt treasures in a dangerous area, with more than ai to fight against.

Seriously, if you are just looking for competitive fights and ego stuff, you should go spvp.

If you don’t care about who wins at the end of the week, you should not come to wvw.

The map should be reserved for people who do care.

Maniac.5163:

An idea for the red team: Perhaps you can instead assure blue will meet mutual destruction. You are never going to beat both servers in a head on. Instead of trying to keep your turf red against 2 fronts, why not just make sure there is no blue on the map, ever. Your garrison goes green? NP if you’re holding blue keeps. Think of it as every blue point you take = you staying in the tier. Perhaps blue will be more inclined to fight the green server next week/fortnight once they realise it isn’t so beneficial to be a doormat all the time.

It’s never ideal to be engaged in a brutal fight for second. As far as I’m concerned, second place is just the first place loser. However, with little options available you have to fight smart and pick your target strategically to send a message if you intend on staying in the tier. Just a little hypothetical food for thought anyways..

Actually , if you look at how the ranking point system work, smaller gap between all servers equals 3rd place losing less points. The bigger the gap between 1st, the 2nd and 3rd server loses more points.

You can be 3rd place every week, as long as you stay relatively close, and not drop tiers. This is of course assuming T2 stays close as well.

Annabel.5127:

Xirin.8593:

Flawed Victory.4321:

elkirin.8534:

IMHO, It often feels like a double team but it is just the 3 way dynamic.

Absurd (the first sentence). I won’t deny it is part of the tactic but it is an obvious double team I might respect sos more if you just admit that cause it is not shame to admit double team as part of your tactic.

Exactly. Double team is a legitimate strategy and is something all servers deal with. Just please don’t be disingenuous or downplay it to make it appear Blackgate isn’t trying (as stated by Cirus and Resonance). The screenshot below was from 12:30am EST today and is how WvW looked for the greater part of Saturday (and still looks this morning). Very little SOS presence on JQ BL, very little JQ on SOS BL, both pushing BG on BG BL and EB, with zero pressure between blue/green on EB.

Let me give you a better screenie. This was taken around 5-6am PST. But yeah, very little presence by JQ & SoS in each other’s borderlands.

Actually SOS was pushing our hill, but we pushed them out.

if you have any precision, life steal on crit is the way to go.

mesmers make good commanders, just because of two skills: veil and portal.

So much easier to have pugs stack on the portal if there is a pin on the portal entrance.

I have 5 characters at level 80 with full exotics(yeah had a lot of free time in november+december). I 100%ed all the orr maps almost entirely solo and the only time I died there was when I rushed in solo to a 8+ group of mobs during some DEs. So the CC is not broken. It is more than manageable.

as far as i know, not much you can do about it 1v1, unless you fight in an enclosed space to restrict their movement.

I used to run a similar build with almost full clerics with some knights… in wvw, I went back to mixing knights, but in pve, you can face tank champion mobs with this build. Find a random champion group event boss? if you have the time, you can solo them.

actually necro is better than eles.. wells + marks + power build = crazy burst aoe..

rangers are not weak as many people believe… at least not 1v1. I’d say its one of the stronger classes.

I have a mesmer, but i wish it was reduced to like 10, so I would not have to feel obligated to use a mesmer… seriously I feel like I am playing at a disadvantage when I’m playing some other class.

Mog.1589:

Slamz.5376:

You missed the main reason:

Zerging makes you practically immune to AE.

5 man group = 100% damage from AE
10 man group = 50% damage from AE
20 man group = 25% damage from AE
50 man group = 10% damage from AE
(effectively)

This is because AE can only hit 5 people. So if you’re in a group of 10 and someone does an AE on the group, you only stand about a 50% chance of being hit by it. This is why you see big coordinated guilds all clump up on doors. When there’s 30+ of them, they simply because immune to AE. 10 people can rain AE on the door, enough to instagib an individual, but with 30 people in a shifting clump, the damage gets highly diluted. Attacker 1 hits 5 people but doesn’t hit the other 25. Attacker 2 hits 5 other people but doesn’t hit the other 25. Etc. Nobody is going to get hit too hard, despite 10 people raining AE on them.

It’s just how the game is designed. The enemy of the zerg is AE damage and this game has severely restricted the AE, so the zerg is greatly empowered and can really only be beaten by another zerg.

That is the cap from one person’s AoE. If many people drop AoEs on a group many more get hit.

I know I run in a guild group of ALL thieves and when the 5 of us all daggerstorm at once the zerg gets trashed pretty hard.

Most of the time when a zerg gets trashed from daggerstrom spam, its not the damage from the ds itself, but people with no idea how the skill works and shoots projectiles at them, which doesn’t have a 5 man cap.

Seriously… people still qq about 2v1? its 1v1v1 so its always going to be 1v2 at some point, unless one of the teams decided to play with themselves.
We have had occasions where JQ would spawn camp SOS and block them from reaching the keep while SBI would get in the lord room, so its not always sos,sbi vs JQ.

Some of the other classes also have spells that gives them quickness(like the buff you get from mesmer’s timewarp.)

Come to Jade Quarry, we fight 24/7.

wow.. look at those bonuses lol…

Magiofdeath.2745:

Kreen.3925:

Yes

Not many of us Oromea (OREO) are left playing WvW at present. Most of the clan is in DF beta There are 3 of us active in WvW right now although I am trying to get some of them back.

What game is DF? Haven’t heard of this one.

darkfall

I do COE with guildies… and while 1 lodestone per run(p1 and 2) maybe an overstatement, but it does drop quite often in the chests.

Helping other servers do JP = helping them get free siege.

Planetside maps are much larger than WvW maps… If Anet added like 20 more maps to fight in maybe this could work, but currently there is no need for this. The maps are currently too small anyway.

Dunno if you have seen the borders around 15ish hours ago.. JQ flipped everything on SOS borders and held them for a good while( and still managed to push into SBI with the other zerg). So if flipping everything on SOS’ border to reset all upgrades is being a guard dog, I will be one anyday.

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

If someone is really spending real life cash on gems to buy gold to buy a legendary off the trading post, then I feel bad for him.

As of right now the cheapest legendary weapon I see available is the bolt, for 3333 gold.

Currently 100 gems is 1 gold 75 silver. Let’s pretend there are no fees for selling gems (there are)

That means you need 190457 gems to get that much gold (rounded)

With the largest bulk option you get 4000 gems for $50.00

That means to buy the cheapest legendary on the trading post right now (bolt) you need $2,308.

When you add in trading post fees you’re probably looking at around $2,5000.

Do you REALLY think that someone out there is spending that much on a legendary weapon? I highly doubt it. And if there is someone spending that much on a legendary, I feel bad for him.

Why would you feel bad for him? This means that he can spend thousands of dollars on a video game item without worrying about paying the bills, I would be jealous not pity him. This is basically saying you feel bad for a billionaire that buys 50 year old vintage cars for his collection.

amberlin.5124:

To WM (and SoS),

I may talk in Dutch, French, Simplified Chinese, Cherokee or make affectations of American Sign Language on any channel. I may not offer to translate. I may, in fact, be trying to exclude you from the conversation. You may ask what I’m talking about but don’t feel offended if I or other parties do not understand you if you do not ask us in Dutch, French, Simplified Chinese, Cherokee or make affectations of American Sign Language.

And while we are at it… doesn’t this belong in the cat box of an enjin server forum, lordie!

Just wow. Just kitty-kat wow. Work that runway, Chaster! /facepalm

Yes, and this is called having bad manners.

If I started to speak in foreign language which only a small group of people can understand in that area, other people might as well think these people are making fun of them. This may be not the case for a lot of the times, but it does happen.

Have some foreign people next to you that were speaking in chinese(or whatever language) and started to burst out in laughter? yeah, they are making fun of your clothing preference, or your face.

This maybe ok if you are gathered in LA and just wanted to chat with your friends, but I have seen people talk in random langauges in dungeons with party chat. This is just plain rude. If you want to exclude someone in your party for a certain conversation, use whisper or guild chat, not party chat.

mclovinballs.4031:

So you transferred to a server that is winning a lobbed sided match this week to learn how to play to help a create an even more lobbed sided match next week with the same servers facing off? If you really wanted to learn something, you should have transferred to a losing server that is out manned half the time.

Dude read the whole post and replies lol.

there are actually exits from the spawn points there so if you are worried about them capping it, you can not stop them unless you have people there all the time with or without the invul spot. Even if there was no invul spot all they have to do is just exit north from the spawn when you leave. Also golems do not have to use the invul spot since they can just wp to the spawn point. Why would golems use the invul spot for safety?

If you are angry because you chase them all the way there started smashing 1111 when you saw the invul invul invul letters on your screen and died to a cc chain, it is your fault for chasing them to their spawn. I don’t care if the invul spot stays or goes but this is the case.