Guild Wars 2

MagiKarp.8201:

Classic SoR.

#SoR
#unsubstantiated

Always outnumbered, Never wipe, Knows more about BG than we do.

Just saying, I think I’ve seen EVERY guild on SoR (or JQ/BG for that matter) wipe at one point or another. Some wipe more than others, but that’s just the reality of it.

For any guild to claim that they have NEVER wiped is simply ridiculous.

Thanks to [Meow] and [MERC] for some fun fights on SoR BL.

See you again tomorrow perhaps?

Clock

Cool, so T-1 NA after several weeks would end up being BG/SoR/JQ → BG/SoR/TC or some variant of that for weeks on end. 1up1down isn’t really as great as it sounds.

Neuromancer.2148:

Even scores means we stack, PvD, AC abuse, golem kitten equally! Congrats SoR and BG

I wish that ANET released weekly numbers of how many people logged into WVW on any given day.. I’d be willing to bet that participation dropped sharply once people realized that this event is easily farmable.

Klawlyt.6507:

I think there’s a difference between feeling forced, and wanting to scope new stuff out.
I’m a die-hard WvWer, and it’s basically the only thing keeping me playing this game, but when they roll out new content, I gotta at least scope it out. I’m sure that’s the way most people feel. Even if they introduce 3 new mini-games, and only one of them turns out to be remotely interesting past a few tries, you still gotta see it for yourself. Just be glad LS updates are on tuesday when most weekly matches are already decided. Imagine story update on friday nights.

Ultimately, I think the living story update this week will end up deciding the SoR/BG/TC matchup. Closest match I think I’ve ever seen.

HOLY COW CLOSE MATCHUP BG/SOR!

Keep up the good work both of you!

TC, hang in there. The longer you fight us two, the more people will consider transferring over for some T1 wvw.

Achilles.2197:

Chris.3290:

I would actually recommend TC, as they always have some people on (just not large mega-groups like the other T1 servers).
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Waiting for the veins to burst on the foreheads of the JQ guys who saw that I called TC T1.

TC lost to JQ

By a considerable margin, if I remember correctly.

SoR doesn’t really have issues with lag during EU, or I haven’t encountered this issues during my time playing EU*.

*I rarely play on EB, if there’s stonemist lag during that time, I wouldn’t know.

An estimation of play times or what time zone you play in might be helpful for other players on your server looking for the same things.

Best of luck,

Clock

I think the big thing we can all take out of this thread is that not everyone will fall in line with the definition anyone would give WvW. Baring adding a major debuff when not near a certain number of people, you will always see dueling in any PvP mode.

snownow.9352:

Mystery.7392:

snownow.9352:

Did you guys feel lag after patch?

The patch note wrote they improve the skill effect.
But my FPS drop to 5-8, before this patch, I can hold 15-20 fps when 2 way full map zerg fight, but I got 5-8 and I’m not in full map zerg fight.

And I couldn’t see the mesmer portal and sieges when they just drop/put.

You checked your graphic settings?
Due to the patch everything was reset to high. Had the same problem

oh, thank you.
I’ll check the setting after I back home.

Oh wow, thanks for this. I noticed everyone wasn’t wearing the same crappy green as usual when I was doing small ops earlier in the evening. I’ll have to change it when I get home as well.

Grumpdogg.6910:

I’m sure this incoming patch will bring new maps, new strategic points of interest and a whole new range of strategy.

Man WvW will be so fresh and exciting…

I hope if/when we get a new map(s) that they do not announce it before they release it. That way everyone just logs on and says a community wide “WTF ANET, Y U NO TELL US?!”

saiyr.3071:

CuddleStrike.8215:

lollasaurus.1457:

Didn’t know this much whining about a matchup you were never meant to win was possible. Hope MAG gets paired with SoR and BG next week, you’ll love it.

If they are complaining about JQ….. I personally can’t wait to snuggle them (mag) tightly… and I know SoR does love a fierce snuggle…..

INC INC INC!

I would like to be cuddle struck by Aco.

Clockradio.3257:

saiyr.3071:

Clockradio.3257:

saiyr.3071:

lollasaurus.1457:

Didn’t know this much whining about a matchup you were never meant to win was possible. Hope MAG gets paired with SoR and BG next week, you’ll love it.

I hope so too. Maybe the thread will be even better! Maybe the real T1 servers actually GvG!

If your guild is EXCLUSIVELY interested in GVG and no other part of WvW, a week of fighting SoR and BG would quite possibly be the best week you could ever have.

It was mostly a joke. We aren’t exclusively interested in GvG. Though the thread might be pretty good…not sure if it would beat this one, though!

Not sure if you read the T-1 thread typically, but it can get pretty saucy with all the trolls. This week however, the thread is boring. Which is why you see so many visitors in this thread.

Wonder what changed! But no, I don’t read it. Too much to keep up with and I have no vested interest in it.

IDK Where ACO is hiding. Still haven’t seen them on SoR… Seen lots of WARD guys kickin it in WvW though.

I usually keep up with the T1 and T2 matchups ever since they made it random… gives me perspective on our possible competition. For you, that would be like 3-4 threads though…

saiyr.3071:

Clockradio.3257:

saiyr.3071:

lollasaurus.1457:

Didn’t know this much whining about a matchup you were never meant to win was possible. Hope MAG gets paired with SoR and BG next week, you’ll love it.

I hope so too. Maybe the thread will be even better! Maybe the real T1 servers actually GvG!

If your guild is EXCLUSIVELY interested in GVG and no other part of WvW, a week of fighting SoR and BG would quite possibly be the best week you could ever have.

It was mostly a joke. We aren’t exclusively interested in GvG. Though the thread might be pretty good…not sure if it would beat this one, though!

Not sure if you read the T-1 thread typically, but it can get pretty saucy with all the trolls. This week however, the thread is boring. Which is why you see so many visitors in this thread.

EDIT: Benjamin – There are fights in T-1, however if you have too many militia following, you have to be careful about who you choose to fight, otherwise there will be so many rallies that a 30 man could wipe your 70. Not trying to make excuses for anyone, just trying to put perspective on the hesitation to fight open field with a mostly-same-guild force.

JudgeD.5673:

scootshoot.6583:

JudgeD.5673:

I like how BG felt the need to portal in their zerg for 7 ppl fighting the lord inside BG Hills earlier. Even better is the fact the lord had downed at least 3 of us. Guess they didn’t want to lose their trebs inside, though I though they preferred golems…. :P

Per my post history I’ve been on SOR since day 1 so no BG fanboy here, haha. However, these sort of QQ posts are annoyin!

How are they to know how many of you are in there? Did you expect the BG commander to turn around once they realized it was a small man? Besides they also have no idea if you have a reinforcement train coming from another map to help out as well.

Sounds like they did what they had to do to save Hills…..

I’m sorry if my comment sounded that way, but I seriously though that sort of “precautionary measure” was interesting, for lack of a better word. We had no backup since at that time of day, TC’s WvW efforts are usually focused on TC BL or EB. We also assumed that the BG would show up when one BG got inside as we were at inner gate. It was just an idea that one guy had. Being originally from the old T8, I am not familiar with all the tricks and tactics that the old hands on BG or JQ know. I am not complaining, merely observing.

Should have cleared siege before moving to keep lord. I think for most commanders, having to replace all of the defensive siege would be just as annoying as actually losing the keep!

The problem is a severe lack of in game moderation. I think that would go a long way as far as making sure that players out there to just grief a server/guild/player would stop in a more timely manner.

saiyr.3071:

lollasaurus.1457:

Didn’t know this much whining about a matchup you were never meant to win was possible. Hope MAG gets paired with SoR and BG next week, you’ll love it.

I hope so too. Maybe the thread will be even better! Maybe the real T1 servers actually GvG!

If your guild is EXCLUSIVELY interested in GVG and no other part of WvW, a week of fighting SoR and BG would quite possibly be the best week you could ever have.

Monsoon.2589:

Seriously it has come to this?
To the two people from the guild I can t name here who took the BG golems and purposefully destroyed them by jumping of cliffs… this kind of attitude only reinforces BG players’ idea of how pathetic the enemy is…keep it up.

Same thing happens over here. Don’t think its exclusive to your server. I guess some people think it’s funny.

Benjamin.6235:

Clockradio.3257:

GG your 30 can take a JQ small ops.

Those were small? T1 is a seriously messed up place if you need more than 40 to be considered more than small.

If you roll less than 200, stay out of T1.

Was watching this earlier for a little bit. Didn’t catch any battles unfortunately.

I hope you guys plan on splicing this feed up into the interesting bits, that’s something I’d definitely watch

x per fection x.2096:

Still can’t get over how much JQ likes to boast about wiping 30 man’s with their full Q. Anyways here is tonight’s Heavy Train, there was about 30 in mumble so please don’t claim you got beat by a full q JQ. All the extra’s always die first push.

http://youtu.be/26mN8B3BjOY

GG your 30 can take a JQ small ops.

EDIT: tbh, I only watched the first two scenes and that was enough. If you don’t wipe the enemy on a jack in the box, you screwed the pooch hard. Then comes the part at SE camp where there’s 10 jq stacked and wiped in 5 seconds… I figured the rest of the 19 minutes wasn’t worth watching.

Iavra.8510:

It’s been my experience that most of the GvG-focused groups spent a big part of their time capping and defending structures, reserving 1 time of the week for themselves to do their GvGs.

This, however you occasionally do run into a guild that doesn’t care about the mechanics in WvW other than those involved in killing other players.

CuddleStrike.8215:

x per fection x.2096:

Clockradio.3257:

I left Maguuma in search of a server that I could log onto whenever I wanted and play WvW with people. I think a lot of people in T1 are the same, they play multiple time zones and enjoy playing with various people. The lag and queues are definitely worth the trade off for me. As far as terrible players, I’m not sure what you’re using for your criteria but I haven’t had a problem with all that many people.

When I see someone with something like this “[TSYM] is now accepting new recruits of ALL classes!” in their Sig the first thing I think is bad player(s). So its hard to pay attention to anything you say.

That’s a bit harsh dontcha think? Maybe they are selective upon whom they let in but not the class? I must admit, if your class wasn’t accepted but you were awesome at it…. it would be slightly disheartening.

P.s

<3 JQ Misssssss yooooooooooooou! SF <3 GO TO BREAD SHINI!

Nope, that’s fine. If someone wants to troll, that’s what they’ll do. I’m hardly ashamed to say that TSYM accepts people of all skill levels. We are a training guild. No elitist attitudes here, and if someone like that does join, they usually aren’t around for very long. We play to improve ourselves and our guild. The emphasis is on “all classes” because we DO have role for rangers and engis, where a lot of “hardcore” guilds prefer it if you are not one of those classes.

Didn’t mean to turn this into a propaganda spewing post, but xperfection more or less pushed it that way.

Thesilentflute.8761:

Clockradio.3257:

Thesilentflute.8761:

It is called Guild Wars 2 and you know who is winning the war the guilds on blackgate.

Lets pretend it isn’t kill trading.
The dumbing down and isolation of a game mode to fit your lv of understanding is a little ridiculous, but i get it now lol.

I will try my best to explain:

Without the towers keeps, and camps play would consist of one zerg running into another zerg. (like gvg)

STR A tegy allows smart people to win over larger enemy forces.

… that was way easier than I thought it would be.

Right, and I think most people would understand your point as far as WvW is concerned. However this game is seriously lacking an exclusively-deathmatch style PVP mode. GVG is the best way to have that match type, while keeping it relevant and exciting.

You have a good point man, but since the the teams are already limited to a fraction of actual guild size couldn’t this be done in 8v8 arena so it would not interrupt the play and flow of wvw?

I would imagine it is because you can’t use the foods/oils that a lot of these guilds builds would suffer without. I also think that most guilds try to organize these outside of primetimes, to help with the “being interruptive” part.

Note: I don’t GvG, and I’m not terribly familiar with the scene itself, but it’s fairly rare that a guild will just stop working a map at 9pm server to go GVG.

Thesilentflute.8761:

It is called Guild Wars 2 and you know who is winning the war the guilds on blackgate.

Lets pretend it isn’t kill trading.
The dumbing down and isolation of a game mode to fit your lv of understanding is a little ridiculous, but i get it now lol.

I will try my best to explain:

Without the towers keeps, and camps play would consist of one zerg running into another zerg. (like gvg)

STR A tegy allows smart people to win over larger enemy forces.

… that was way easier than I thought it would be.

Right, and I think most people would understand your point as far as WvW is concerned. However this game is seriously lacking an exclusively-deathmatch style PVP mode. GVG is the best way to have that match type, while keeping it relevant and exciting.

Vash.9183:

WARD fitting right in with SoR! You chose the right server.

I noticed when we fought them on JQ that something was oddly familiar about how they play… Maybe they were Rallians at heart the whole time?

ParaldaWind.4523:

I wish all of the organized guilds would just leave T1. I swear, how can you deal with this many terrible players, this much skill lag, and the constant queues?

I mean, is winning really that big of a deal to most people? Because honestly, a server winning is 99% due to coverage, and that’s a very passive thing to hone… at least in open field or lower tiers, what you do as an individual actually matters.

Playing for PPT is pointless. The points will be there whether or not you do anything.

Come to T3-T5 (but not Maguuma). Ask [Agg], they seem to enjoy it. There are actually some quality guilds on servers like YB, Ebay, CD, SoS, etc. If you come down, you’ll get better fights, no queues, less pugs surrounding you and your enemies, and you get to actually make a difference.

Sometimes, [PYRO] is the only offensive force online, and when we take a couple keeps, that’s probably 1/4th of our total PPT for the night. It feels good to actually have something to do with our server’s PPT, and at the same time playing well in open field fights and having fun.

Think about it.

EDIT: I want to reiterate, do not come to Maguuma.

I left Maguuma in search of a server that I could log onto whenever I wanted and play WvW with people. I think a lot of people in T1 are the same, they play multiple time zones and enjoy playing with various people. The lag and queues are definitely worth the trade off for me. As far as terrible players, I’m not sure what you’re using for your criteria but I haven’t had a problem with all that many people.

For me at least, at the end of the day, winning doesn’t matter all that much. I just enjoy the large population. You could compare it to living in NYC (or any super-populated city), yeah there’s a lot of crap, but the convenience is often better than the alternatives.

As for your [AGG] comment, guilds transfer for different reasons. I don’t know the internal politics of AGG, however I can almost guarantee you that a lot of guilds would not “like” the atmosphere in T3-5. It’s not what they’re accustom to, and its not a situation a lot of guilds would like to be in. I’m glad [PYRO] enjoys occasionally being the only organized group in Maguuma WvW, and I hope that they do well, but again, a lot of guilds would not like to be in a situation where the basis of the whole server’s weekly performance based off of how many hours their guild puts in. I understand why some people might enjoy that. I just do not care for it.

Ogre.1750:

Blix.8021:

GvG is way more important to this game’s community than idiotic tower flipping, sorry

Preach on, brother!! o/

Even you guys have to agree that it would be better if you were able to GVG in the EXACT SAME fashion as you could in GW1. That is, guild hall (decked out with all sorts of stuff based on guild achievements) with a central arena for the GVG battle itself.

Add in a leaderboard, ranking system, GVG record tracking, or all of the above, and the minority of the minority that GVGs would probably grow exponentially.

Sharpoon.8197:

Seems like every server has posted in this thread. Hi guys!

To keep this post relevant, it looks like JQBL is now FABL 2.0! How did that happen :o

Wait til JQ SEA logs on, T2 will turn into JQ’s newest PVE zone.

MagiKarp.8201:

NA – 1. SoR, 2. BG, 3. TC, 4. JQ/DB
Oceanic – 1. BG/SoR 2. ?
SEA – 1. BG 2. SoR/JQ 2. DB 3. TC
EU – 1. SoR 2. BG 3. ?

Note: Oceanic AND SEA are two different time zones and should not be considered the same. BG has the biggest SEA at the moment, but SoR’s Oceanic is the same size as BG’s which is still very small in consideration to numbers present in all other time zones, probably the most stressful time zone for all servers.

Personally, I would put JQ ahead of SoR by a decent margin when it comes to SEA, otherwise I would agree with this list.

SoS is hard to judge against these servers because the only other servers they play on it are occasionally DB and TC. Its been a long while since SoS has played against JQ, BG, or SoR.

Fuzzion.2504:

I have never heard of Vabbi so i cant comment

Yep, EU server.

I haven’t heard anything about it, good nor bad.

Neuromancer.2148:

Clockradio.3257:

Neuromancer.2148:

I remember matches when other servers would lead by nearly 20k by SEA prime Monday.

Careful what you say, my friend.

It might be pretty close come end of SEA, start of EU this Monday!

However, I do understand your point. The blowouts used to be FAR worse than they are now.

The last two weeks did give me pause, but I’m still confident that this is the most evenly matched the top two servers have ever been. It’s Oceanic prime now and SoR is leading in PPT and closed an 11k lead to less than 8k.

Yep, I did kind of jump the gun on that one!

Oceanic kind of seems to be the time to play… the PPT always seems so close, and whenever I’ve played it there have been no queues on any map…

Sharpoon.8197:

uberkingkong.8041:

TC is a joke…
JQ is T1 server just check http://mos.millenium.org/na it owns TC by 100 points and is 15 points away from being #2 server NA. SoR is slowly fading, JQ is still strong as its always been and BG is just too big, too many peeps xfering to BG…. Skillwise Blackgate sucks.

Oh and everybody follows JQ because JQ is the most skilled WvW server out there, hence why we get most replies and views on matchups with JQ involved. JQ matchup has 700 replies, 7000 views TC/BG/SoR only 300 replies and 6000 views.

Oh dear lord. This post…
The reason the thread has so many views and replies is because it’s a Maguuma thread.
Besides, it’s always funny watching how a server responds when they first encounter Maguuma’s PvF squad. It was hilarious!!

Don’t forget that the BG/SoR/TC matchup is boring as heck and just a repeat of the last two weeks. Hell, even the trolls are avoiding that matchup thread.

Fuzzion.2504:

It is very clear that this matchup is terrible. Last 2 nights was the most boredom i got in months.

Current score is 2125 , thats just a whisker away from SoR 2140.

Dear Anet, i dont mind every now and then fighting Tier 3 servers but for 3 weeks in a row is plain injustice.

Agreed. I want to fight JQ again. TC had a good run at T1, but it’s time for them to go back down and work on what they learned. I get a little tired of this “BG/SoR and oh yeah TC is kinda there too, I guess” matchups.

Akio.1749:

Clockradio.3257:

Kreamciqul.4617:

JJBigs.8456:

Odies.8017:

SOR, great fights tonight in Black Gate BL! Hope to see you guys for the rest of the week.

By great fights do you mean great double team on BG?

Home BL is designed to be a double team lol.

Also, thanks for the fun in SoR BL tonight, lots of bags!

YAY for STARTING with bay and hills every reset on home BL! Too bad it’s usually easy to pick one to keep. Bay needs to be pushed out of treb range from garri imo.

Also, I’m glad my servermates could oblige your loot needs. I should mention that you [RISE] can be a very difficult team to fight open field. LOVE what you do with your necros. I know TSYM always gets excited when we’re on the same map. Sorry we don’t GvG though

You TSYM caught us with our pants down that one time we were heading into North camp lol we managed to pull them up though before you could do unmentionable things to us. Good kitten.

I wasn’t there tonight (stuck at work), however you can probably blame Inozent for 99% of the unmentionable things. That man will do ANYTHING for loot

Kreamciqul.4617:

JJBigs.8456:

Odies.8017:

SOR, great fights tonight in Black Gate BL! Hope to see you guys for the rest of the week.

By great fights do you mean great double team on BG?

Home BL is designed to be a double team lol.

Also, thanks for the fun in SoR BL tonight, lots of bags!

YAY for STARTING with bay and hills every reset on home BL! Too bad it’s usually easy to pick one to keep. Bay needs to be pushed out of treb range from garri imo.

Also, I’m glad my servermates could oblige your loot needs. I should mention that you [RISE] can be a very difficult team to fight open field. LOVE what you do with your necros. I know TSYM always gets excited when we’re on the same map. Sorry we don’t GvG though

JJBigs.8456:

This advice is horribly misguided and as a newcomer to WvW the direction is steering you into a trap. Do NOT go for a class based on “How many lootbags can i tag/get”. Go for what is more USEFUL to your team/server. To judge a class on how much loot you can rake is your last concern as this is terribly selfish and honestly, the more you help your server, the better they do, the more bags you get etc… The better you play, the better your teammates do, leads to bags.

Whoa, calm down…

If he’s just following the zerg, it doesn’t really matter what class he is unless he decides to join a guild that has a specific setup. He was asking which is better in WVW, and we told him. As it turns out, you can tag a lot of people either playing an engi or a necro. It’s not like he’s a guardian and we’re telling him to grab any staff he finds, equip it, and press one until he gets tendonitis.

Please tell me how, when you’re rolling with a random militia commander, doing mass AOE damage is not helping? Because he didn’t specify that he was following a certain guild or team, much less the composition of that team.

EDIT: If you are an engi, and you’re tired of people saying that you’re worthless in the current WVW Meta, come to SoR and look up TSYM. We have a role for you.

Aberrant.6749:

Clockradio.3257:

Because SPVP is about point capture, and you have to use SPVP gear.

WvW allows for far greater stat variety. Figure you need 30 vitality for a bit more survivability? Not a problem. In SPVP it is.

The more easily available/higher stats/food buffs/oils/rank buffs etc. allows for more diverse builds… but also causes more imbalances at the same time. I really wish they would have broken up the stats in sPvP to more than just one neck/jewel, but I understand that it’s easier to balance with how it is.

Oh definitely. I understand it’s easier to balance that way, but cookie-cutter stat sets are exactly why I don’t play SPVP very often. I feel like it narrows the amount of effective builds you can have.

Also, adding a Deathmatch mode would go a long way as far as attracting people to SPVP.

Because SPVP is about point capture, and you have to use SPVP gear.

WvW allows for far greater stat variety. Figure you need 30 vitality for a bit more survivability? Not a problem. In SPVP it is.

AMP.2398:

Clockradio.3257:

If you want to play small group/solo stuff, I would say engi is better as far as mobility and therefore could probably survive a lot longer. Necro pets are pretty bad outside of taking camps, but wells/plague/corrupt boons/epidemic are pretty fun to play (but are probably more successful in zerg fights).

If you want to follow the zerg, either would do fine. You’ll probably get more loot with necro.

I agree with most of what you said completely except that with grenades, bombs, or flame thrower I’d say an engineer could arguably compete with an necro for collecting bags while zerging if that’s the goal.

Yeah, admittedly I’ve never played an engi. I do however have a necro. I do know that wells + plague form will essentially allow you to tag an entire zerg, no matter the size. If engi nades, bombs, and flamethrower can compare to that, that’s pretty neat.

If you want to play small group/solo stuff, I would say engi is better as far as mobility and therefore could probably survive a lot longer. Necro pets are pretty bad outside of taking camps, but wells/plague/corrupt boons/epidemic are pretty fun to play (but are probably more successful in zerg fights).

If you want to follow the zerg, either would do fine. You’ll probably get more loot with necro.

Jereme.1840:

Clockradio.3257:

eithinan.9841:

lol button bars. zerg servers dont know how to press anything but 1. Why do you think lemongrass is so expensive.

So the cost of lemongrass has NOTHING to do with the fact that it is nearly impossible to farm because it is a RANDOM drop from a mid-level “herb” node? Interesting proposition.

Farm straits on all toons every day problem solved

Doesn’t change the fact that you could take 20 characters out there, farm every node in the zone, and end up with 10 lemongrass. Yeah, you could be lucky and get more but you are guaranteed zero.

mjharrison.3209:

blame the guilds that transferred to t1 cause they weren’t good enough to fight their way there.

If anything, Anet should decrease WVW instance caps and make it half-price/free to transfer to lower-ranked servers, since WVW is the dominant reason people transfer anyway.

It’s not an issue of guild not being good enough to get to T1, its an issue of guilds ending up on servers where they cannot rally enough people to get together a solid WvW community. It takes an army, not a guild, to get a server to T1.

With guesting implemented, the ONLY reason anyone should HAVE to transfer is for a WvW community the size they want, be it T9 or T1.

eithinan.9841:

lol button bars. zerg servers dont know how to press anything but 1. Why do you think lemongrass is so expensive.

So the cost of lemongrass has NOTHING to do with the fact that it is nearly impossible to farm because it is a RANDOM drop from a mid-level “herb” node? Interesting proposition.

It was fun fighting you guys while you were on JQ. You always provided a nice challenge to myself and TSYM. I know that we will miss fighting you.

Best of luck to you on your recruitment as well as on SoS!

Clock

One way to combat spying is have one commander in your guild tag up, while the rest of the guild runs tagless away from the other group. Coordinate the militia group in a public voice chat, and coordinate the guild group in a private voice chat. Keep the “serious” conversations in the guild voice chat, only relaying what you have to in the public voice chat.

If the “spy” starts following the guild group, have the two groups switch roles.

Just make it as hard as possible for the spy to do their thing, and all the spy will end up doing is give bad intel to the enemy.

Mada.5319:

Clockradio.3257:

selan.8354:

well u are on jq…sooo erm i see u guys out with 50to 60 man zergs on each map. if u dont want queues then might wanna switch servers. increasing the map cap would cause servers like u to steamroll every map in less than 10 minutes, where is the fun in that?

30-40 man groups would be more accurate. I’ve spent a lot of time fighting JQ, and they rarely roll with more than that outside of SEA time.

However, I do agree that increasing map caps would be a bad idea just because the maps are way too small and easy to move from point A to point B.

You faced JQ without their fairweathers. They have double those numbers out there. They magically have an eu presence now as well.

I’ve played against JQ for many, many weeks while they were still #1 and before the slipped into the #2/3 slots . I find it pretty hard to believe that they suddenly went from queuing 2 maps on NA primetime to queuing 4 maps all night. As far as the EU presence, they’ve ALWAYS had some sort of EU presence, just not one significant enough to fend off IRON and/or KISS. Not to mention that it’s still the weekend and EVERY server has an EU presence.

I believe that there are fair weather players on JQ that are suddenly playing now because they are winning by a lot, however the number is probably much smaller than you think. JQ is still a very strong WVW server, it has been since day 1. I don’t know what kind of internal issues they’ve had that made them drop the #1 spot, but that doesn’t make them any less deadly.

I’m afraid you’re just not used to the tactics that they created while they were locked in with BG and SoR for months on end.

Dommmmmmmmmm.6984:

And Lich Form can win 3v1’s easily with 5k crits on auto attack…

Not to mention an addition AOE blind for necros… The problem with lich form is, it makes you bigger than a Norn which puts a HUGE target on your head. However, several necros popping it at once can be pretty darn effective. But if you’re running a group with that many necros, plague form is probably the better choice.

Neuromancer.2148:

I remember matches when other servers would lead by nearly 20k by SEA prime Monday.

Careful what you say, my friend.

It might be pretty close come end of SEA, start of EU this Monday!

However, I do understand your point. The blowouts used to be FAR worse than they are now.

I am an officer in TSYM as well, if you have any questions about TSYM feel free to send me a private message in game or on these forums. I’d be more than willing to help you out.

Just a quick note: We are recruiting ALL CLASSES. It doesn’t matter if your main is a class most guilds don’t use in WvW. We have a role for you in TSYM. We will show you the LOOT.