Guild Wars 2

Astraea.6075:

I like the change, but be careful… the person buying your siege blueprints could be from one of the servers you’re currently matched against. :P

If you’re selling siege you likely don’t care about wvw anyway… otherwise there’s a dozen commanders willing to take donations on your server I’m sure.

LordByron.8369:

go 10 min in www forum and you will realize why pvers don t like www.

Also when a “casual pvp” becomes all about winning is a problem for WWWers.

Honestly, I spend most of my time on these forums in the WVW section, and it’s pretty comparable to what you see on this side: A whole lot of complaining.

Winning is nice, but honestly I get more satisfaction out of the teamwork and cooperation it takes to run a map.

…to get you excited about WvW?

What would have to change/be added into the game to make it more appealing to those who primarily farm PvE events and dungeons?

Just curious about some of your responses.

Because you get put in Asuran Jail if you travel with more than 15 people in WVW. Fact.

Oh wow, Beaded Bastion… I have never seen that in game. I actually like that one quite a bit. Also, I didn’t even think of the crafted exotic skins, because most of them are pretty terrible, but the shield might be a valid option later…

Thanks for your help! +1

JQ is OBVIOUSLY losing this week because everyone on that server is following CuddleStrike’s example and putting PVE time-limited events over WVW.

Any particular “Tier” you are interested in, or even disinterested in? How do you like to play WVW? Do you like following a large group, or do you prefer smaller group ops?

eric.8203:

well with the ori insc needing 250 ectos i dont see anyone making them lol

The only classes this armor is particularly good for are classes that can easily fill multiple rolls (especially utilizing the cond. dmg, and healing pwr) with one build. The only ones that I can think of right now are Engis and Eles.

Other than that, Valkarie/Knights mix is more effective than Celestial for most other classes looking for rounded stats, and much easier to get

I’m working on the legendary shield right now to go with my Moot, however I need a placeholder temporarily. Anyone know of a good shield to go with this weapon? I was thinking the Vigil shield, but it doesn’t really go with the Aetherblade Heavy Armor on my guardian.

shortcake.8659:

hey someone pm me when blackgate is winning again so i can log in and post about how amazing we are while simultaneously reminding the other servers that we are more talented and etc.

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You can expect a pm on Friday or Saturday.

Fuzzion.2504:

I call this the “tsunami-trickling up” population effect. It happened in DAoC. Most servers in DAoC started out with great numbers, but a few of them started to lose subscribers from lost of interest or initial game excitement.

This caused the lower pop servers to bleed even more with players going to the higher pop servers.EU servers were closed down as well. This vicious cycle continued for years and when combined with failed expansions(TOA) and sell-outs to EA , the developers were forced to create new “classic” servers to rejuvenate them. DAOC had gone from ~4million to its current membership of around 2,000 players.

History always repeats itself.

Isn’t it the ride that’s fun though? Forget about what’s happened in other games, just enjoy the ride while it lasts!

In a few years when most WvW players have moved on to other games, we’ll all still reminisce about the good ol’ days in GW2 WVW where it was WAY better than whatever current RVR system people are complaining about.

Why lock players out of a feature of the game for not picking a certain server? It would be different if we were talking about open world PVP…

How about using/have the option to use the Obsidian Sanctum as an overflow for those in queue? You can go have some pvp fun in the JP while you wait for your queue to pop or you can stand in LA/pve zone of choice doing your thing.

Sounds like a win/win to me…

Offski, its on the internet so it must be true!!

grifflyman.8102:

Have you ever been on a server with a WvW population/coverage problem.

If the correct answer is to transfer to a server, doesn’t that point out the huge flaw in the way WvW is designed?

You’re arguments are only valid if you have the required population and coverage in WvW. Not every server has a guild to cover time slots, and it’s silly that it’s become a requirement to compete in WvW.

I think a lot of people would disagree with you on that there is no competition outside of the top 3 wvw servers.

Look at MOS. There’s a lot of competition on the NA servers. I can’t speak for EU, because I’ve never played on one of their servers.

Evalana.5480:

‘PvDoor’ – I really hate hearing people say that. It’s not like we ALL aren’t guilty of doing it at some point or another… stop whining!

Amen to that.

+1

katniss.6735:

Tier 1 sounds horrible. I haven’t had to wait more than 30 mins to get into a map of choice, and never was locked out of all 4.

Meh… Other than reset night, the longest queues I’ve ever had were about that long, and there’s almost always at least 1 BL I can go help out in until my queue pops for the one I want to be on.

Reset night is about the only time anyone should complain about queues.

Kyo.7369:

What happened BG? :o

The weekend is over. This happens almost every week and should surprise no one.

Woof.3406:

JQ has given up already that they resort to camping JP’S….Enjoy 3rd place this week.

I didn’t realize that anyone even did the JP anymore… I thought those were just for PVE players who hate WVW, but still need 500 badges for their legendary…

Mustafa.7684:

Also has anyone else notice how there are risen asuran and norn in orr? How did they migrate there? Werent asurians underground during that time?

too many loophole!

Those are former pact forces.

hammer.9721:

There is at least 1 jq’er that likes your ideal but keep in mind jq is mostly randoms and like every other online game pugs just want to attack.

Right, and I realize convincing pugs/random militia to stay in a tower for even 20 minutes on an AC when it’s not under attack would take some kind of miracle.

The strat I outlined really would only work if everyone on the map was on board with that idea. It’s pretty fragile, and even taking one camp at the wrong time could mess it up if you had the right (or wrong) commander on the opposing side…

Jahn, unfortunately it’s a little more complicated than that. JQ doesn’t have the coverage to go on the offensive with both BG and SOR, it would quickly turn into a 2v1 against JQ. IMO their best bet would be hold their third, and toss down so much siege (and keep it all manned) that it’s nearly impossible to take anything from them, forcing BG and SOR to fight eachother, then picking one side to go after and hold a 2v1 against one for as long as possible.

However, I’m sure there’s a lot of experienced commanders on JQ that have a much better idea on what they actually need to do.

Raif.9507:

Me and a lot of PD run in 2-5 man groups a lot. The max we ever run in is 10-13 people, but most of the time we have a lot of small man groups running around and we find a lot of fights. Yes we tend to run into a lot of zergs and need to be careful and run off or retreat but we find some great small man action here and there.

<3 PD.

Big impact from a small guild. You guys do it right.

Tellerion.8102:

Clockradio.3257:

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It’s correct that anyone with half a brain knows how to do a proper guild raid nowadays, without having to put on their commander icon, as you can use the targeting function in order to mark the one that is leading, by targeting him. However, the point with such an implementation would be to simplify the gaming-experience of these guilds, kind of in the same way aoe-loot has. You don’t really need AoE-loot, do you? But it sure is handy though …

Right, and I don’t necessarily disagree with you. It’s just that people talk about guild tags like they are a complete necessity and that the game is broken without them. If my post helped ONE guild realize that they don’t NEED to run with a tag on, I would feel feelings.

Hell, I would say a better grouping system or “raid parties” with higher character limits would be far more important than guild commander tags.

FryChikN.5280:

Wolfheart.1938:

If you expect a gear treadmill then leave for good, Arenanet is not interested in those kind of tricks. I know it may seem weird but you have to realize that not all MMOs are supposed to be about getting better gear all day erryday. In GW1, you didn’t have to get new gear or level up past level 20 for the entire life of the game (5+ years, with 4 expansions).

that is fine and dandy… but if gear isnt the allure of max level what is? i understand there is pvp, but you can do that in pretty much any mmo. im not even a traditional mmoer, wow honestly bored me.

Content updates every 2 weeks. So basically if you play every other weekend, you can get the most out of all of the pve stuff.

Luthan.5236:

If they even allow Mesmer portals to bypass walls then this surely also is intended.

How many things do you think would break if Mesmer portals could be ground targeted?

AndrewSX.3794:

lordkrall.7241:

Exactly, and ArenaNet have been quite clear with the fact that they are not planning to develop such as service.

They’re said nobody is working on it and it’s not on their schedule at the moment.

A bit different compared to “We will never do it” – even if i think too that we’ll never see it.

No company in the right mind would ever say “we will never offer this as a service”, especially for something that could (relatively) easily be done. That, and the number of people who would actually use this would probably be a tiny fraction of the player base.

Burl.9567:

Jinks.2057:

Khayoss.2019:

For EBay, JQ or TC would be cool… someone we haven’t fought yet. Or Mags and SoS I guess, see how we actually stack up without a larger server in the room to sit on both of us.

More interested in who BP and SBI get than who we get TBH… I would be interested in seeing them vs the servers above them. I don’t think that ratings gap should be quite as big as it is.

Screw JQ they have kitten for NA.

Gimmie SoR…..let the bag farm begin

I don’t think you understand the differences in T1 NA compared to T2 and below.

Ahmrill.7512:

I think the point here is guilds can’t effectively group and do the things that that enjoy, and the way they enjoy. Running seperate multiple groups together, with no dedicated channel and targeting a “driver” is NOT an effective system for private grouping. Having a visual pin like the commander and squad system is simply more effective for organizing and coordinating guild groups.

You can effectively move your entire squad around without using a commander tag. It just takes practice and voice comms really help. I know this because my guild does this nearly every single night. The only time someone tags up is when there is no other commander on the map, and usually then we just have one person tag up to lead whoever wants to follow (most of the pugs), while we run a separate group around the map without a tag.

If you would like suggestions on how to train your group to do this, send me mail here or in game and I would be glad to give you a few pointers.

Just start thinking of the commander tag as a crutch, and trust that your guild/group will learn to follow commands, and maneuver the field without it.

As far as the chat thing, if you really need to type something out, use guild chat.

DeWolfe.2174:

My bad, I got that backwards. Appears the person is going for his map complete.

Actually… this is pretty believable… anyone sent to another server to spy certainly wouldn’t be dumb enough to roll with the tag of the guild he’s spying for…

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

did you see that ludicrous display last night?

+1 for the reference.

iCryptik.1496:

For WvW based guilds, 100% rep is a must. Most WvW guilds that don’t require full rep decay, as members tend to stop participating in that guild, and spend more time in other guilds. Exceptions are made for bank guilds.

False. TSYM has been around since launch with over 400 members and does not require 100% rep. Everyday (like 24 hour period) there are about 150 people online. Most of them rep at least 50% of the time

Right on Aphix. If you want to run with an organized guild group, join the guild. If not, follow who’s got the tag up. One pug who doesn’t know what’s going on can rally an entire enemy force and wipe the guild group they’re following.

I know Fuzz… A lot of us on SOR would really like you guys to fill your ranks this can be a true 1v1v1.

Although I’m sure it’s more frustrating for you guys, knowing that you have a lot of good players, and do really well in primetimes that you have numbers for (tonight was a good example of this), and I would even go so far as to argue that you guys are fine when it comes to NA. However, this cannot make up for the fact that JQ is clearly lacking Ocean/SEA/Euro guilds.

Real guilds only use commander tags when they want pugs… Running tagless and with everyone in a party solves all the problems in this thread…

Wanna stop by your server recruitment thread and say that slothbear?

Oresh.4729:

seriously, db is stronger than tc ^^. jq is not going to move to t2 anytime soon.

Ok, I’ll bite…

Why is DB stronger than TC? Don’t say “look at MOS” because at this point DB’s lead is negligible and its very easy to pull 2v1 all reset night against a server. It is, however, almost impossible to pull 2v1 against a server all week.

However, we’ll see by the end of the week if you’re right. Hope you all get some good fights.

SoR still misses you TC. Please replace BG next matchup.

If this happens, CERN and friends better be out in full force ;-)

Pretty sure he does the title Green/Red/Blue…

Lol Jericho, I thought it was going to be a vid of TSYM wiping AGG…

Omnitek.3876:

dusanyu.4057:

Problem with commander is the it is bought and not earned (huge mistake) I trust most of them as far as I can toss em

Why don’t you get a tag and show them how to command?

That, and why exactly does it matter if you trust them? If you think they’re just going to wipe their group over and over, then don’t follow them…

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

So you’d rather have a huge blowout against any other server rather than a match that is mostly even at least through Tuesday?

Aurust.8961:

If you actually want to be able to play during NA prime dont come to tier 1…. the game is broken and unplayable due to skill lag.

Lol

Love fighting along side you guys, good luck with recruitment!!

Edited for accuracy.

Remember the last guild everyone tried to get to go to JQ ended up going to SOR… don’t force it, just show them why you are the best server for them other than “we need more people and they don’t”.

Fuzzion.2504:

zhonnika.1784:

We’ll all get to a nice friendly place, and then ascii will make the thread tomorrow and it’ll be 20 more pages of who has the biggest schwartz. SIGH

So Ascii is now the official Tier 1 thread maker ? Fuzz approves.

I think he gets the title and OP message ready like an hour before reset… cause as soon as we know who’s fighting, the post has been made!

Aurust.8961:

TC and DB will be destroyed….. did you guys not learn what it means to fight a tier 1 server? That was SOR going kiddie gloves on TC because it was a joke of a match… im sure JQ will fight at full strength….

PPT wise, I would probably agree. TC and DB would have to team up for a fierce 3 solid days of double team to keep the score mostly even.

Fight wise, TC could really bring it in the open field if they want to. We especially had fun with the CERN superzerg…

zhonnika.1784:

Personal message sent!

I think I speak for most of SOR when I say that we fully endorse any guild moving to JQ…

Volcanus, you seem to be forgetting that BG let JQ tick 500 ppt to pass SOR last week…

I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this, but whatever…

Send a scout to any T1 server. Let them tell you whakittens really like. Yeah, there are more people here, but it seems like you care about a lot of the same things as T1 guilds…