Guild Wars 2

I don’t see trapper post nerf. Not really worth it. I used to run SB with them and Axe / Torch. I still can’t see it.

The way I run there are only two that work for me They are:

Power/Berserker – built for speed
Sustain/durability rune – built for comfort

Some interesting posts and points. Thanks!

@TheFantasticGuy, @TragicPositive – all good I was teasing as I am sure you know. One good thing about these sort of game models with no monthly sub, makes perfectly good sense to walk away when you spend more time frustrated than having fun in a virtual world. Am I right?

Regardless, I live by the motto it is better to give than receive and you both put me in check with my snarky reply

Can I have ya’ll’s stuff who are leaving?

J/K /calmdown

The subform(s) are to vent among other things like finding parties to shack up with, er, I mean to hunt with. Trade builds, and find the designated driver…

Cake.4920:

Camps definitely need to take longer to solo.

Why?

To me this is a issue with the people on the map. Starting with the commander(s), then propagating down to the roamers, scouts, or back capper parties. This is not a issue of the NPC or Arena Net.

I’ve engaged in a camp solo only to have defenders/first responders reach me before I closed the circle and capped.

@bearshaman.3421 – yup, I believe we are on the same page.

Riddle me this, do we need that many Moa’s?

Seriously? Consideration should have been made to look at the overall code of pet mechanics, fix the current household problems and honey do list, then add unique pet abilities for X, Y, and Z pets…

bearshaman.3421:

Zenith.7301:

B;izzard has always pushed more frequent and comprehensive balanc e patches than Anet in all of its games, it’s nothing new.

And Final Fantasy XIV is the only MMO out there besides Wildstar which has classes with DPS well between 5-10% of each other.

This is the only atrocious current MMO that has some classes doing triple the DPS of others.

I will point out that both Blizzard and Square have bank accounts that are so ridiculously large as to make this comparison completely unfair to Anet.

Point taken, but not applicable. It takes money to make money. Short term micro transactions will not last too long. That and of course the overall state of the current expansion everyone recently bought.

Not only that there is a thing called pride. Sort of like the wagon wheel maker. Sure, the craftsman could make the wheel has cheap has possible, and has fast. However, the craftsman sees that wagon go by daily….and if that was me I’d make kitten sure I made the best kittening wheel this side of the Mississippi for the world to see and be proud.

Nuzt.7894:

Well your going to need the Durabilty runes to offset the tidal wave of Ratwells that are about to happen.

<.< >.>

Until those get nerfed. Happens all the time. I am honestly not surprised it hasn’t happened yet. Oh wait, they are too busy busting the Ranger and Druid’s b@lls again.

#villageresidentsmatter

Rhbyn Yew.5236:

Eval.2371:

Guys, we got a buff!
QZ is 50 sec cd now…
Ranger is now saved. Were finally viable /s

Did not notice that, thanks for pointing that out. Interesting, might give it a go in WvW, see how it goes.

I’ve used it in WvW – has its moments. Not sure it is a buff though. Well, glass half full / empty I guess. Any reduction in cool down is nice but that adjustment to protection

Sad panda.

Deniara Devious.3948:

Just shows Arenanet doesn’t play much WvWvW.

But, but, but there was just a post the other day saying that they dared claiming a tower/keep…

Wasn’t the Drake gutted once already? Now buffed again?

Or is that a different drake that I’m talking about from South Cove? It seemed strong, and I used it for a long while. Then poof, it goes byby.

Jim Hunter.6821:

inb4 zergs start loading up the (now double health) cannons with condi’s and using epidemic to destroy the sad souls desperately trying to defend their structures. Glad this was introduced in the same patch that you made venoms baseline so the defenders are doubly kittened. Good troll anet.

At least this is now a thing
-North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed.

#VillageResidentsMatter

It isn’t that it failed, they are looking at it the wrong way. Promoting it, whatever you want to call it. This isn’t a server thing, you can’t fix transfers, who logged into where upon launch, nor where new players will call home.

The fundamental problem is that we are seeing this has a “server” ranking and ego thing rather than bringing it down to the lower levels of Guilds, Players, and maybe future, Alliances.

Case in point. Look at 10,11, and 12. They are talking about bumping CD’s Glicko rating to move them. What is so special about CD? You already paired them with Kaineng, Eredon Terrace, and Borlis Pass. How did that turn out other than kitten off Sorrow’s Furnance, Ferguson’s Crossing, and Gates of Madn. Oh wait, what about Darkhaven and Ehmry Bay? Yeah – the match making really worked didn’t it when it is a 4 v 3 v 2. The match making totally screwed over servers that used to be middle tier but ran into the preverbal player population and wall clock wall and couldn’t go further.

See the difference? You can’t fix server. It is broke. Only one can be number one, someone has to be second, third, etc. Focus on players, guilds, alliances, classes, rank structure, etc. We have had the current system in one form or another since launch and it is still kittened up has it was day one.

Kilrik.6320:

Additionally guard is often part of builds following the nature magic/ beastmaster setup so it’s nerf hurts as well. The might remains I suppose but 33% is just protection and you still have to sacrifice the health of your pet. As a consolation couldn’t they just make it protection, keep the might to your pet and call it a day. Why does there always have to be a trade off for rangers like with empathic bond and signet of renewal. 50% seemed reasonable, because you were sacrificing your pet.

Not sure what format of play you are talking about but I will say from the primary meta I play, WvW, this is what I ran. NM/BM sustain with protection slotted…

What is even more ironic is that over the last couple of days this discussion came up about how they could tone down Druids and it always landed back on our sustain. Looks like we had some forethought. Wish I’d have that playing the lottery and not solely with GW2…

Guardian’s had a similar post last year or so when a Dev came to town asking for ideas. Patch game, not a single idea from the thousand(s) of ideas. Nothing, nadda, not even a thank you…

Ironically I’m seeing the same exact thing within this forum. The pattern is scary but I guess I don’t expect much from a free to play game.

markdoyle.2159:

On the other hand, if Anet really has no data on the number of WvW players by server and time, then yes, we can’t create a reasonable solution.

This is be a stretch or a major oversight. I would wager they have the data and more from initial login to number of characters, gold per, trading information, and much more. They would be complete idiots if they didn’t have any information regarding who sets foot onto what map and when.

Thanks. Also forgot to say I was coming at it from a WvW perspective but I’d wager it is similar. Have been toying with some of the rune/sigil options to see just how much CC annoyance I could put on people from a roaming point of view.

Thanks again.

I just wrote this in another thread…looks like it is just has applicable here.

The fundamental problem is that we are seeing this has a “server” ranking and ego thing rather than bringing it down to the lower levels of Guilds, Players, and maybe future, Alliances.

Has Straegen also noted above with the comment about server v server fundamentally flawed. And I do believe he and I have been fighting for the past couple of weeks yet here we are in agreement…

First round is on me Straegen if you are of age. If not I’ll still buy but it will have to be milk or apple juice for you.

Straegen.2938:

Crapgame.6519:

We are into this now what, 2 or 3 years?

The score system was poor before linking. Post linking nobody has any idea how strong or weak a set of linked servers will perform. Using prior scores that have no relevance to a current match is stupid.

I wasn’t looking at it from a scoring system. I was looking at from 20,000 feet in which case the format of play. The fundamental problem is that we are seeing this has a “server” ranking and ego thing rather than bringing it down to the lower levels of Guilds, Players, and maybe future, Alliances.

Remove server ranks and place the responsibility back on the players. But this can’t happen until we get a web portal from Arena Net to include player and guild specific statistics and a true “active” player ranking system. By class, race, top 100, by week, month, and include guilds. Claiming, holding of camps, towers, keeps, and of course castles.

If Arena Net doesn’t want to invest the R & D dollar, that is fine. Then copy the data to a API data source off their production and open it to open source. We’ll create our own…

That is the only way this is going to be fixed. Not wallowing in a system that was built for something else and taking the lazy way out.

Just wondering if anybody is using the two traits together (Primal Echoes &Ancient Seeds) and how it works. Also if you are using any form of CC Sigils. Mischief, Hydromancy, Incapacitation, and a few others come to mind.

It may give up too much offensive power to do anything but annoy people…

When I face a good Mesmer on my Druid the first thing I do is say a quick prayer that I brought the right pair of shoes to the party. Because I’m turning and burning the opposite direction. Full mil afterburner. At this point it is all about managing my assets and control CA so I can gain stealth at will to move about the map.

If on the other hand it is an average Mesmer then I pretty much do the same thing by managing CA but use stealth to gain higher ground before I engage.

I personally find Mesmer’s are just a solid counter to Druids. Just like certain reflect happy Engineers are to Power / Berserker Rangers.

ArchonWing.9480:

Min-Maxing in pve is not as interesting as encounters are basically fixed, thus easier to solve, and the grand majority of stat sets are not viable at all when it comes to min-maxing. In WvW you’re basically min-maxing to accommodate a variety of scenarios, and even putting things on swap to adjust as needed.

Then the PvE side of the game is broken, but we already knew that. No tank, no healing, no hybrid. Just trait and gear DPS and have at it. I get it.

Riddle me this…how do your min and maxing matter when you are running with 25 to 50 players in an open field?

You and I could both be naked and achieve the same results. Again, I see why one does it but the fights are not balanced, CC is running amuck along with boons falling out of the sky like skittles.

Grand scheme of things I don’t see it maters unless you are roaming or dueling. Outside gearing for specific things in the zerg. There is that, but even then it is a “known” thing. Most every commander has it, or will run it, just like what works in sPvP

This isn’t unique to GW2 either.

Jeknar.6184:

To the people suggesting new NPCs, remember that a lot of people hated the new NPCs on DBL. You still will hear hate cries…

But honestly, just leave the camps as they are. Zerglets must learn to defend their holdings if they want to keep them. Maybe change the camps to pop swords as soon as the attack starts oposed to the current 30s that is applied to tower/keeps.

Other issue with BL replacement maps was the sheer size. It was very difficult for the bottom half of the server population to cover. Upper tier probably not has bad, but mid pack and lower, forget it. Amon other things like the NPC’s use and others noted.

Camps are fine – people just need to understand map awareness. If it is really impacting their score, and making a difference, then they have issues. Because every server has roamers.

Jeknar.6184:

Crapgame.6519:

Jeknar.6184:

Crapgame.6519:

Honestly, just remove gear options from WvW and treat it like sPvP. Set amulet, runes, and sigils. Probably make balance 100 times easier.

And ruins people who like to mix their armors. Not everyone run a full set of the same stat combination you know? My scrapper for exemple have a Knight’s Hammer, Marauder’s Armor and Celestial Trinkets. Tell me which pvp amulet would give the stats I gain with this combination of equipments.

Tell me why it would matter?

And yes, I know not everyone runs the same configuration. But again tell me why it matters in WvW?

Build crafting is part of the fun imo. Limiting people to a few amulets with pre-set stats ruins that and turn everyone in stale meta builds like it is on spvp. You would be adding another nail to diversity coffin.

Honestly, someone suggested that they actually gave us an amulet where we could choose the stats we wanted. It was somenthing like: “You have 4000 points to distribute and can’t put more than 1500 of the same stat”. I could totally get behind this kind of stat flatness, but the fixated amulets of spvp? No ty.

Fair enough, but you can do the min/max thing in PvE? Raid, dungeons, world bosses, questing, etc. What value does it add in WvW other than the possibility of giving you a one up over the players that don’t?

I fully understand the meta of WvW, gear, and the mindset. Heck, it is what I mostly play. But I also see the opportunity to negate some of the silliness that is going on with HoT power creep and the effects it has when in a Zerg. We are talking crazy town. I’m sure there is a middle ground that could work. If they wanted to invest in it that is.

Aileras.9460:

I personally don’t think a solo player should be able to easily take a camp, at least make it a bit harder. Sorry solo players but gw2 is a group game. Just my opinion.

Hmm…when I login I’m not in a group. In fact, I seem to recall earlier that I wasn’t in a group until I accepted or initiated invite.

It isn’t a requirement.

Jim Hunter.6821:

elkirin.8534:

If soloers like myself are offending others by flipping camps I would like to know how I can lessen their loss of enjoyment.

I’d like to know how I can kitten them off more.

Lol – well said.

Bast Bow.2958:

Pfff anduriell and crapgame why so suspicious and defensive..

Ty djahlat and spellofiniquity

I have no skin in this fight. There is no suspicion. I just didn’t think it was right to say someone was a troll when they more often than not provide value add. Furthermore, to say you got one or two shot by a Druid or 0 to Death in 2 seconds is a bit of a stretch. Even of the Druid was running full berserker. I mean, is the original poster an up-scaled level 80, tomb leveled, no gear or food buffs, instant coffee level 80 gifted character who is just hot lapping a new character expecting to be good? Then getting destroyed and asking how to play?

“I main a Mesmer” doesn’t give me much of a backstory, does it to you? I’d wager an adult beverage of your choice that in this same situation said Mesmer would have faced the same result regardless of class attacking. I guess what I’m saying, and most of us know, is that every class has similar forms of burst and panic escape options. However, the Druids burst in most cases will be lower than that of other classes which is why I stand behind what I just wrote above. This would have happened had it been a Guardian or Thief, or any other class…

Edit: Note I didn’t say L2P or Mesmer was bad…I’m just going to say this is a bit of a fishing story. My opinion.

Jeknar.6184:

Crapgame.6519:

Honestly, just remove gear options from WvW and treat it like sPvP. Set amulet, runes, and sigils. Probably make balance 100 times easier.

And ruins people who like to mix their armors. Not everyone run a full set of the same stat combination you know? My scrapper for exemple have a Knight’s Hammer, Marauder’s Armor and Celestial Trinkets. Tell me which pvp amulet would give the stats I gain with this combination of equipments.

Tell me why it would matter?

And yes, I know not everyone runs the same configuration. But again tell me why it matters in WvW?

Honest John.4673:

To all the people saying that druid is “faceroll 1v1” “as long as you know what do do” I have 1 question:

How long have you been playing the game?

There are a lot of people new to the game, new to wvw, new to roaming, new to the class and the build. None of them have the years of experience we have. Something that I think of being very easy to do probably takes the newer guys intense focus and concentration.

It’s precisely because we’ve been playing the game so long that we think of something as a faceroll. This doesn’t go for everyone.

The druid who’s been playing the game since release winning a 1v2 relatively easily can’t be the only judge of a build compared to the druid who bought the game last month and lost on the same build to a guard (for instance).

There is a spectrum, we’ve played so much and practiced so long we can’t get it wrong. There probably more people playing who are practicing so they can finally start getting it right.

Honest John, might I suggest you make an alt and name it “Almost Honest John”? It doesn’t matter how long people have played or when they started. You can’t expect someone picking it up today to be better than someone who picked it up last year. We typically call that a learning curve. It is a natural progression. The only difference is some people learn faster or understand the game mechanics or details better than others. That is ok, not everyone is the same. And don’t get me started on keybinds…which makes a huge difference.

Also note that with the release of HoT every class is somewhat new again. So while I see your point technically it is moot. It isn’t like we have been playing Druids since the first publically available BETA of GW2…

I think most people have been pretty cool and pointing out options rather than just say L2P.

I can’t speak for everyone but I use it on my Druid. Works rather well and lets me fine tune builds based on runes, sigils, weapons, and accessories. That is how I thought it was supposed to work in this game anyway…go figure.

I do not it isn’t optimal but I use it so I don’t have to carry around 50 different sets of armor. Yeah yeah, a bit of an exaggeration but you get the idea never the less

Camps and NPC’s are fine. They should, however, send notifications to the guild responsible for claiming. Already said also by others but camps and mercenaries are a good thing for solo players to maintain while leaving the larger force to focus on other things. Not to mention it gives them something to do while scouting.

Honestly, just remove gear options from WvW and treat it like sPvP. Set amulet, runes, and sigils. Probably make balance 100 times easier.

Teon.5168:

But references to DaoC, my own included, are ancient in the world of mmorpgs.
That world does not exist anymore, imo. Except maybe for the upcoming CU, if we ever see it.

Agreed. CU is so far out none of us know and nothing else is really around at the moment to lure the WvW community. If there was, we would be in far worse shape then we already are.

And not sure how it is for you, if you play that is, but here on Ebay we are a pair fighting against a trio and foursome. And probably will for another two or three weeks. If Arena Net is trying to send a message…

Consider it received!

Teon.5168:

Nuzt.7894:

Unfortunately this ship has sailed a long time ago, it’s not even a case of having a small window to capitalize, they literally had years to capitalize and just kitten ed right out. They basically threw a winning lottery ticket in the garbage, took a crap in it, then lit it on fire before tossing it into the ocean.

I disagree. The larger playerbase, and therefore, more money, is to be made with casual players.

The hardcore wvw playerbase is a much smaller niche, imo.

Remove hardcore please. For whatever reason people keep trying to connect WvW to hardcore play style in this game or try and connect it to DaOC.

GW2 we have:
PvE / Raids – tethered encounters, quests, and other stuff mixed in with master levels.
WvW – open world PvP spanning borderland and central map, anything goes
sPvP – confined space pvp, limited gear (amulets, runes, sigils)

DaOC – Pre Trials of Atlantis had:
PvE – tethered encounters, quests, to reach max level
RvR – open world pvp, towers, keeps, relics, realm point / rank (12)

Camelot Herald – to post top weekly guilds, players, by class, alliance, etc. Anyone can search / find active player by search if not on top 25. That is each class, guild, and alliance.

Each player was worth 900 points. If 10 people killed or part of kill or healed during kill it was divided. Easy, right? 900 / 10 = each got 90 points. If solo kill then that player got all 900. Easy. Equal share, kittening UTOPIA! Ok, kidding aside, that is generally how it worked.

Play at your pace, solo roaming, duo, guarding gates, taking relics – whatever or however you play, you only PvE to max level of 50. Nothing else you can really do outside craft or player housing until later in the content (Isles expansion or Trials of Atlantis). The end game was to go out, find players, and fight…

Teon.5168:

OriOri.8724:

This isn’t the problem. GW2 isn’t a WvW game. WvW should never be The endgame like you and several others have suggested. Yes, by all means it should be stepped up a lot and it should focus on endgame players. But it shouldn’t be The endgame. That wouldn’t solve anything. GW2 is and always has been a PvE game. The hardest content in the game has always been PvE oriented. Dungeons when it was released. Then fractals. Now Raids. PvE is the endgame, not WvW.

I am not sure if those of us with DaoC backgrounds were suggesting that GW2’s wvw should be the endgame. I agree with you on how GW2 has approached wvw. My point about DaoC was that WVW was structured to be the end game in DaoC from the very start

This is actually very true. The whole premise of DaOC was about player vs. player and bounties. Realm points didn’t come into the picture until one of the devs said um, bounty points was a bit, er, barbaric Anyway, the poster above is correct.

The end state of DaOC was Realm vs. Realm. There was no raiding or hard core end game PvE. There was no arena, no battle grounds, nothing. You did PvE / Fed Ex quests only to level up. At level 21 you had the ability to port to your upland map depending on which code base it was running, and RvR. Note, and this is the most important part. You are level 21, end game was level 50 at launch. Why enter RvR maps at such a low level? Because the Reward (one shot, steam rolled, camped, farted on, what have you) outweighed the Risk. Simple in that yeah it was risky business but man, the incredible EXP, gold, and other stuff was well worth it. Not to mention the thrill.

Each realm had some NPC’s that tough. Nessie is one – how many times we all died crossing that stupid river only to have her kill us. There was a huge Dragon – mob rule / zerg her to death. Took many servers a very long time to win that fight. Darkness Falls boss. Another NPC that took many of our lives. Few dungeons here and there, but mostly go here, kill this, and return. Next up.

At the end of the day you reach level cap, craft some gear (it was usually best in slot), set stats you want, and go RvR. Party up with 8 players, one of which used speed (skald, minstrel for example), and hunt. Stealth parties would camp gates. Stealth could climb walls. List goes on and on.

Short version? PvE was only a means to the end. The end was RvR. That is it. Data was posted to the herald for all to see, brag, and laugh at. Really was a solid community all things considered.

DaOC had similar problems if those of us who played are being honest. Skeleg / Igraine reporting. Thane, Pac Healer, Shammy buff bot, Suppression Spiritmaster, Hunter, etc. List goes on and on (Anyone remember Hib guild Lurikeen Uprising?). Point is, we all had relic raids at 2 AM. We all faced population swings. We all faced Trials of Atlantis, Master Levels (get GW2 connection oddly enough ), artifacts, scrolls, etc. Every one of those things impacted the overall play of RvR.

Server transfers are not an option. We bought second and third accounts to move. Monthly fee / subscription based. Class balance issues, complaints in the system, etc. All similar issues with fighting a three way war with population caps. Mordred server didn’t really resolve it other than give it more life has did original rule set. So yeah, I’ve been around the DaOC block a time or two and enjoyed every minute of it. Great game, kudo’s to the team.

Camelot Unchained is the next in line successor. However, it is a ways off and should be. This is the last ditch effort that people will put money into their pockets Especially after Warhammer.

Point is, a game dating back to 2001 faced similar problems yet offered a few simple things that are lacking in a game dating 2016. And no, has much as I love Darkness Falls, that isn’kitten

What is missing is ne simple thing…

The Camelot Herald.

Web portal broke out weekly realm point earners by class, server, guild, and alliance. It didn’t stop there, you could search on anyone. Realm rank list, etc. Also showed the map, relic ownership, etc.

Yeah, player housing was nice. Darkness Falls, nice. Locked stats, nice. But the portal actually gave players something to brag about and aim for. Realm ranks, realm points, getting on the top 25, etc.

Raptors would have started out strong then whittled down into nothingness. Don’t get me wrong. Day one running in HoT and coming across those. I was like for kittens sake, that would have been a nice pet. Sort of like a cluster bomb

Then I said to myself, self, that is a bad idea…we can’t have nice things.

OriOri.8724

Found the local troll I guess. Nice to know your name early.

No, you didn’t. Anduriell has a pretty solid post history of helping people out here in our community. But he may take offense to your post or believe you are the troll. But hey, #Trollsneedlovetwo!

Point is, all classes face similar fate if they are unprepared or panic and use all of their abilities. That includes Rangers and Druids. I mean, I’m not running to the Mesmer forum and complaining just because I can’t beat a Mesmer and Druid pair nor could I find a viable way to disengage and run away…and don’t get me started on Gravity Well or the kittening Moa, ok?

I don’t know if you are trolling, looking for Nerfs (go read WvW Druid thread), or just a bad player looking for advise (we all have str & weaknesses has humans). In either case you just need to practice and not panic. There isn’t anything a Ranger / Druid can do that will put you down in under 2 seconds. Not even lady luck. You do have time to react.

Exciton.8942:

Crapgame.6519:

Should look in the Ranger forum…

Having said that, you just need to play whatever class it is you play smart. Understand who you are fighting, their animations, and then you will see the enemy dead. Key to Druid is knowing when to CC. This is no different than when you are fighting other classes.

In fact, it is the single most frustrating thing when playing a Druid. Smart use of CC means you are one dead mother kittener.

To be honest, current druid is not that susceptible to CC. We have multiple good stun-breaker skills.

For example, my utility bar consists of signet of renewal, protect me and glyph of equality. They are all good stunbreakers with reasonably low CD. There is also this ultimate reset button called celestial avatar form that breaks stun when traited. In addition, I can get pulsing stability from Strength of the Pack.

All of these together makes it actually quite hard to lock down a druid.

Yes, we have options. However, the options are gated by how we are geared and what traits we are using. We both know we can’t have it all. If I am geared and using traits for support then my damage output is going to be limited. I can run has fast and far has my shoes will take me but sooner or later they will catch me if they are any good.

My comment about CC isn’t about a fair fight. It is more about being attacked and the enemy playing smart and time their CC around me triggering counter measures. And that isn’t factoring in my reaction time or panic attack. I know we have all seen it when the pilot sees a SAM incoming and throws the chaff/flare knob to ALL and punches it…then the second SAM comes in and seals the deal

But yeah, I see your point and I can see others about their so called immunity. Having been in that spot and winning fights hugely out numbered I’ve come to the conclusion that a average skilled Druid can make bad players rage quit in those situations.

DeWolfe.2174:

The Dev’s must be made aware of builds like this Druid that are over tuned. Crossing fingers we get a proper balance patch this time.

Are you seriously asking for Druid changes?

Reading some of the comments it sounds like we are able to trait everything and have 20 different skills and/or abilities on our bars. /boggle Believe it or not Druids have to pick and choose just like everyone else. There is no secret here. We Druids pick hybrid, DPS, or Sustain. If you are losing to the Druid or any other class it isn’t because they are over powered it is because you don’t know the timing and counters or just bad.

Straegen.2938:

Reset the rating each time linking occurs. Keep the order but allow the servers to move up/down quickly.

This shouldn’t be a difficult problem to resolve.

We are into this now what, 2 or 3 years?

Should look in the Ranger forum…

Having said that, you just need to play whatever class it is you play smart. Understand who you are fighting, their animations, and then you will see the enemy dead. Key to Druid is knowing when to CC. This is no different than when you are fighting other classes.

In fact, it is the single most frustrating thing when playing a Druid. Smart use of CC means you are one dead mother kittener.

DaOC. Thought I was playing that game again last night when I noticed some Crystal Desert boys and girls leaving players at various ruins for the buff. I was like, kitten man, I thought I left my shammy behind and those days are done. Guess not.

Anyway DaOC had a lot of solid emotes. Such a great game. Skeleg/Thane Igraine!

System hasn’t worked once they allowed transfers. There isn’t a system in place that can address wall clock coverage anyway. We saw this back in DaOC with 2 AM relic raids.

Unless you are going to cap the match to a smaller window and players on the map, this is going to be an issue for a long long time.

GussJr.1643:

zooaiy.2108:

khenzy is the only one who has decent stats here tbh

It all depends on your preference and play style I have yet to see a Druid build with higher healing and survivability than mine…but I chose to build her that way, and love it.

Maybe not – but it might be close. There are a few I’ve seen running minstrels with a similar healing number. I also found this fella running something with a ticker lower healing but higher condition. In either case, nice build and set up.

bigo.9037:

furthermore. if youre roaming, like i am exclusively.. playing celestial stats is gonna get you nowhere as the only thing you will ever be able to kill are npc’s.

Celestial isn’t that bad. You just have to use accessories, runes, weapons, and sigils to match. It isn’t no where has good has it used to be but they are not bad either. I find I can use one set of armor now rather than 2 or 3 before.

UmbraNoctis.1907:

Skilled rangers have never been free kills in WvW.

Skilled players.

Mommy and daddy lied boys and girls. Someone has to win, someone has to lose in these types of games. Not everyone is equal in RL or fantasy land.

Stop blaming the class.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

jcbroe.4329:

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Watching this to me is like watching a trapper Thief. Yawn, shake your head and maybe enjoy listening to what ever music happens to be edited over the video.

You know all the counters but it’s a lot easier said than done when you’re actually fighting it, especially in WvW where you’re not confined to a small little circle.

I suppose I’ll stop talking though and congratulate the OP on accomplishing what I’ve seen dozens of times over the past few months from various different players. I just wish it weren’t yet another addition to the abysmal state of what roaming has become.

You don’t need to stop, nor anyone else who has an opinion. However, you need to take the video for what it is. I think the issue a few of us have is that they make it seem like a cheese build or video. Sort of like everyone heard back when Schumacher / Ferrari was winning everything or Mansell with Indy. Hey – my grandmother could win a race if she was driving that Ferrari or Ford Cosworth!

Game videos are nothing more than a action reel and used has a form of entertainment. Funny thing is, the player still has to play. They are not asleep. They can be counted (CC), and just about every class in the game that enters WvW has similar if not easier builds. We all see them and we call them troll builds.

Personally, with the Druid and Ranger, comfort != cheese or easy mode. That is what I find offensive. But no matter – we’re all playing the same game so enjoy!