Guild Wars 2

Rumor has it sword/focus is a good combo. I personally prefer the shield for looks though but hard to overlook the focus Hammer / Juggernaut – that little piece is a bit stealthy. While it looks like a everyday hammer busting that beast out does some amazing things to your avatar’s look.

Greatswords just have a bunch more room for the artists to work with so yeah, Sunrise usually gets a lot of love.

I’m still amazed at the number of precursors. I’ve personally not tried the forge but started to save my 76 and above rares to give it a whirl. I have the karma and badges but not what I’d even consider to make. Probably the shield and a 1 handed sword I guess.

So four precursors? /blink /blink

What isn’t going up price wise in this game… Don’t even think about swapping specs at this point in time especially if it is gear dependent. Box of gear is 20+ gold now and you may not fair any better bidding to piece it together. Accessories same, as are sigils, weapons, and what not.

All things considered I think this is one of the bigger problems Arena Net has on their plate which is the economy. I know there are ways but not everyone like to do some of the things that are on the table. Playing the market, farming or playing the DR game, or running instances. It is what it is though but figured I’d just say to the OP yeah.

It sucks. And yeah. Everything has been on a steady increase over the last few weeks it would appear.

Forgot to add, and I see you made another post, with another video. I saw it earlier and forgot to mention thanks for posting it. Interesting music I don’t mean that in a negative way either. Nice to see people supporting the Guardian and community as a whole.

Thanks.

Got a bit closer to this build tonight while working on the exotic Cleric gear. A few exotic pieces fell today which I’ve sold to pick up some pieces. Ascended gear is something I’m so frustrated at Arena Net for because of the reason you noted Christia.

It is now another source of itemization to contend with. Today it is only two pieces but tomorrow (probably January is my guess, Feb at the latest) we’ll have another two or weapons… I wish they just kept it the way it was or leave Ascended gear to PvE.

Yep – just took a quick look on the trading post.

Box of Cleric (Exotic) buy out @ 20 gold. Piece meal it and it is almost exactly the same at around 20.4 gold. Give or take a few silver. If you try and ask for bids you may be able to get it down to 13 – 15 gold. Depending of if the sellers will take you on it or not. There are a couple bids still high even with bids…

I didn’t even get into the accessories or weapons – lol. Depending on ones funds the change could be costly. I know it is for me but then again this is something I’ve already been toying with and/or considering.

Yeah, I was looking at the karma stuff but not sure if it would work. Clerics set is clearly all Power, Toughness, and Healing compared to the karma temple stuff which is Healing, Precision, and Vitality

Unless there is more armor out there outside of instances / dungeons. I don’t really run them so not sure what they offer in regards to compatibility stats.

Leveling is the most fun, or at least for me. I actually had more fun than leveling up my Ele and that is what I played through-out all the open beta weekends.

Sword/torch, and whatever two hander you find except the staff. Staff is great for travel and WvWvW. But leveling I went with everything else more or less depending on what I had and was a upgrade at the time.

Thanks Christos!

I’d love to try this build out but it would appear I have the complete opposite gear that is required. You have Greatsword/Sword/Focus and I have Hammer/Scepter/Torch & Shield – lol. You mention Clerics armor and I have Knights Exotic Accessories, forget it. I’m not even close.

Not sure how much it would to redo armor and accessories but I’m guessing close to 20 gold for exotics. Weapons I could probably cheat and get by using PvP badge stuff. Darn it all, I like the idea but not ready for it I guess.

BTW – liked the video attachment as well.

Hmm…maybe I’m one of the few who are ignorant about the Monk’s Focus build. What exactly is that and what gear do you need to support it?

I’m currently running the AH build of 0/15/30/20/5 and looking to change anyway. Maybe now is a good time since I was already using staff mace/shield anyway. I was slowly warming to the hammer but had some difficulty with it. Especially around target control

My issue, not the class.

See, if you played DaOC or even this game with the vision of people vs. doors then chances are high you are playing it wrong. Keeps, doors, and Lords are only the means to the end. In fact, they are a necessity by which can be achieved by both zerg and small tactical teams.

Tactics which do mean and nasty things like breaking the other teams moral, blocking access to jump puzzles, supplies, or just all around mayhem.

katniss.6735:

I’m on Maguuma and I care about the score. Probably why my posts are depressing. I post in the morning before I play, and at night, before I log. I play too much. And there never seems to be a set time for peak hours. I solo camps. Buy upgrades. Flip stuff in every map, solo. Forever alone. I suggest things in mumble. Nobody does it. I go back to my quaggan friends.

That is pretty funny. I actually remember you from Sunday or Monday and set you a group invite to chat I noticed the Bill Murray tag as I passed and figured it was worthy of a conversation – lol.

Sort of like a quick hi, by, and nice tag sort of deal. We may have exchanged a few fist-a-cuffs but went our separate ways in the end.

Peace.

No idea what the score is. Last night Yak’s was still in first, Mag second, with EB close behind. However, the only thing different last night was that Mag/EB controlled most of the map. No idea what Yak was up to because it seemed the last couple days they owned a majority. Maybe just a server time deal. No idea.

Nothing wrong with a group pulling off and doing their own thing. I know several people who actually roam solo doing similar things. I think most of these people played DaOC back in the day or maybe Warhammer recently because that is how we rolled. Control main gates if you are a stealther or build a group of 8 and roam. If neither of those worked for you, then there is always the mighty ZERG. End result is always somewhat the same.

Gates are controlled. Stealthers are hunted and killed. Gates are turned/lost. Zerg will track down, and kill the other factions zerg. Zerg will regroup, and then hunt and kill the other zerg. The smaller groups will always fair a bit better because they typically have a team effort and/or plan. I know we did.

2 Pac Healers, 3 suppression spiritmasters, Shammy, Skalt, and our token Thane CC, massive damage, speed, and CC breaker.

I don’t think this game is any different honestly. At the end of the day it is how I always explain it to those complaining in the JP’s. Red is dead. You are playing, by your own accord, in a pvp zone with 2 other servers. Arena Net didn’t force you to be there, you chose it on your own.

Suck it up and play. It isn’t all about golden bombs of light and love. It is about smashing the other server and by Friday night, be number 1. If not number 1, then have fun trying to get there.

Moral of the story? Have fun. If you are not having fun, then leave the zone to those who are.

Think of the shield as just another tool in the shed or garage. Once you do, then you will also come to learn that each tool has a time and place. In some cases one tool is better than another. On the other hand there are times that the same tool has more than one use…

Enough of tool time with Crapgame but here is the deal. Our shield is pretty epic when used at the right time and as a overall go-to tool. However, it isn’t something that I’d carry and leave as a standard swap tool. I personally find it more useful in World vs. World pvp. I can’t say enough how many times I’ve punted people off places (cliffs and bridges) using #5 skill alone. Almost as fun as Hammer #4 / Banish.

Scepter/Shield with Staff is how I roam in WvWvW with a group. When it comes to pushing I’m the go-to guy. Pack up a secondary guardian and coordinate 5’s and you can just move people outside the point it isn’t even funny. I use 5, second guardian uses staff with line of warding. We move and swap so he uses 5, and I use my line. We then move again and I’ll swap to wall of reflection, etc. All in all our shield is pretty amazing when pushing is necessary. Also using stability and just turning the tide via a banzi move of running in and popping it – people are like WTF, over. Later you get a tell saying that was crazy stupid but unexpected

I hate the look of the focus, I enjoy the shield. However, both have their places and I’d like to keep them the way they are.

But we have ascended gear and fractals.

Oh…wait. We had that in the other game we used to play and left the hamster wheel we thought

Both Trungalung and Vanguardian have some incredible points. First, I don’t fractal. I’m currently level 4 and probably won’t go much higher. While I like them graphically and overall concept, I’m digging in over the whole ascended gear and gear progression. I have to say I love the feel (Indiana Jones’ish) and puzzle but I just can’t get past that. Having said that, and why I posted, is simply:

1. Trungalung – if “I” was to ever run through them again I’d have to say the tips you put out are amazing. It almost makes me want to enter again just because of the time you put in the cliff notes

2. Vanguardian – the key you mentioned and I’d like to second regardless of “what” you do in the game is this: “Learn how to tie it all together through hours of playing”. That, right there, is worth gold. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter what you are running build wise or even armor. It really is connecting how the various skills work, or in some cases don’t work, together. Once you learn that you will actually live longer no matter what you do.

I mostly WvWvW inbetween world exploration of map completion. I have to say the more I actually play and understand what skill on what button does what, it seems to make more sense and I live longer. Each hour I go from “the worst guardian on our server” to maybe the second worst

spoonybard.5612:

Crapgame.6519:

Maybe a simple solution is to introduce a few options players have to do before one enters any fractal greater than say 20? You could:

1. Go to map A, location X, and kneel down in front of Y statue for a 30 to 60 minute buff that yields agony prevention of Z percent.

How about adding an optional side event during a fractal where if the party completes it gets Xmin agony resist buff? For example, in the Ascalonian fractal, before capturing the courtyard, if players take out key commanders in the area or another task they receive agony buff related to their fractal lvl. This way the gear would still be desired to save time going through fractals, but at the same time there is a optional work around for groups without agony resist to progress.

Sure, that is also a good idea.

To the person who connected NCSoft and Aion. So true and good point, although NCSoft West isn’t doing GW2. But it does remind me of that game many a time. I played a Spiritmaster and recall countless hours farming for my spirit books And they got harder, and harder, and more time consuming as my levels went on. Then, there are the raids on their own. I can’t say an exact number but the “fire” whatever lvl 30 instance/dungeon I ran a zillion times only to get a blue crafting mat. Never anything related to a item anyone in the party could use. First two months after release and they still never fixed the loot tables or crafting material (high end crafting mats needed to also be farmed).

Second connection to NCsoft (again, West) is the sheer number of bots and security issues. But back on topic. Yeah – goofy system following other publishers goofy systems (Bliz archeology anyone?). SWG initial Jedi unlocking? I mean, the list can go on and on

Sad part is, I don’t want to. But, that is because I focus on WvWvW. Which, all in of itself, is broke. I mean it works, it is fun, for about an hour or two. Then you come to whatever you believe in and say, “man, we are just not achieving much if anything by doing this”.

No portal for stats, bragging rights, etc. Just lopsided server match-ups and mindless pixel animations that flash colors and numbers before ones eyes. At the end of the day those that support beg for badges or loot while the ranged classes rule the day. To seige or not seige isn’t even a option.

But hey – lets roll out this fugly baby called asended gear because everyone wants to loose weight by running mindlessly on the hamster wheel

Fractals design? Win in layout and features. They are, without a doubt, a nice blend of puzzles and graphic look and feel.

Asended gear with resistence stats for higher levels of completion? Poorly implemented and bone head move.

Way to split the player base

Tribune.3782:

Crapgame.6519:

1. Go to map A, location X, and kneel down in front of Y statue for a 30 to 60 minute buff that yields agony prevention of Z percent.
2. Based on fractal instance, you could change the map location of A. Would need to predetermine so people would know ahead of time I guess – so maybe scratch that.
3. Fractal well. Again sort like #1 above, put wells around that grant the buff

What’s the reason for the agony-mechanic if all a player has to do is to type /kneel (or any similar suggestion that doesn’t require any effort, gameplay, creativity etc.) to prevent agony at all. At that point you could also just remove it from the game.

(end in itself?)

Good question actually. Honestly, it depends of what the designers intent was vs. that of the overall population love of the idea. Loot required for progression after level 20 tied to a RNG is sort of like the odds of you or I getting struck by lightning. Wouldn’t you agree? While there is a remote chance either of us could the odds are about slim to none. Much like that of a scuba diver getting bite by a great white.

So basically rethink the overall intent of the items, then design, and maybe just scrap it. I can’t tell you how many projects we scrapped because at the time maybe something sounded really great. But after we spent a few million and implemented it we later found out just how much it sucked And yeah, I’m talking IT and software solutions costing millions only to see it good on paper but crappy from the end users perspective.

Nothing wrong with admitting failure. That is how you build a better product…

I don’t know, but I’m sure this has already been mentioned. But why don’t you just scrap the whole ascended gear and be done with it? I mean I don’t know what the overall playerbase is split in regards to like or dislike, but really it seems like most dislike rather than like.

Don’t get me wrong because I know people don’t want to be told they have ugly babies. However, some babies are just not that cute. Ok, change babies say with puppies. Even then, not all puppies are cute and cuddley. Agreed?

Maybe a simple solution is to introduce a few options players have to do before one enters any fractal greater than say 20? You could:

1. Go to map A, location X, and kneel down in front of Y statue for a 30 to 60 minute buff that yields agony prevention of Z percent.
2. Based on fractal instance, you could change the map location of A. Would need to predetermine so people would know ahead of time I guess – so maybe scratch that.
3. Fractal well. Again sort like #1 above, put wells around that grant the buff
4. Add food to craft
5. Add a rune to craft
6. Kill 100 white rabbits for the buff

Let the art department and item team then work on cool and exciting skins that fall inbetween exotic and legendary that people can hunt. Point being is that honestly loot grinds are not that fun especially when tied to RNG’s that you can’t boost. Also, magic find isn’t that great either but that is another story.

I don’t know really but to me it seems that items are not really needed and you could have incented people by other means. Visiting a statue and praying seems actually better than grinding gear

May not be your cup of tea, but I’d encourage you to look at:

[Guide] Hammer and Altruistic Healing gameplay (sticky)

And maybe reconsider the approach of the thread. Basically you have two threads now in the forums which at times can have a high turn over rate. There are the standard players who probably stop by a couple times a day and then you have the people who maybe do it once a week or less. Do you really want to tick off the later with a attitude?

If the thread has a great dialog in it chances are we can ask to have a sticky. That way it is in one location, always at the top, and you can version as you see fit. Nothing wrong with that.

Of course, your mileage may vary so do it as you see fit. Just a bit of friendly advise.

I was pretty bored last night so I spent a couple silver to port out there and try to farm some bags for Giants Eyes. Over the course of a hour or so (about 90 bags later I guess and no eyes ) I went ahead and played my favorite game.

How many mobs I can take at once before I die

All cool-downs and gee-wiz bang options are allowed to be used as is weapon swap. Needless to say I was able to pull 5 or so with ease to include a vet once or twice.

Fortuna.7259:

Crapgame.6519:

Ironically some of the mystic forge items cost more than a legendary…

Think about it for a second. Let us say you are picking a shield which requires 250 Orichalcum Shield Boss things. Each shield boss is made from 2 orichalcum ingots which are made up of 2 ores each. You can do the math but you want to guess how much that alone is?

I didn’t mention the giant eyes if you are building the wall.

Lets not guess….

The math is 250 boss * 2 ingot/boss * 2 ore/ingot * ~2.5s/ingot * 1g/100s = 25 gold.

25 gold. 25 gold won’t go anywhere when crafting legendary weapons.

Truthfully there are mystic forge weapons that cost a lot, because they use insane amounts of lodestones.

Yup – that is 25 just for the 250 bosses, provided there are enough on the market (which probably are due to the ore type being the most hacked and/or sought after).

Then there is another 25 gold for the eyes. So there is just 50 gold between the two – maybe closer to 60 (market flux let us say). 60 g…

And we both agree on the loadstones. So I’m a bit off but 60 gold is a lot when you think of it.

Oh – and to the poster who said if you are grinding then we are playing the game wrong. Might I just say Fractals and/or our new 2 pieces of assended gear? Yeah, more grind options. We can say it isn’t there or it is, but at the end of the day we got a two for. We have new gear with increased stats which will only increase say in about 3 months when they introduce the next two pieces, etc.

Personally, it doesn’t matter too much to me. What matters is the blatent bot and teleport hacks which ruin the game. Teleport and gather – tell me that isn’t breaking the economy. Gold to gem ration is increasing at a alarming rate and pretty soon people are going to make a decision. Does it make sense to play legit or buy another account and bot and take my chances

Aion went to hell in a hand basket due to bots.

Ironically some of the mystic forge items cost more than a legendary…

Think about it for a second. Let us say you are picking a shield which requires 250 Orichalcum Shield Boss things. Each shield boss is made from 2 orichalcum ingots which are made up of 2 ores each. You can do the math but you want to guess how much that alone is?

I didn’t mention the giant eyes if you are building the wall.

Here is my deal because you can farm some of this stuf….

Note: Some.

We can farm karma and skill points. We can farm various stones. We can farm the badges. Those all have a starting and a ending spot. Ready for the kicker?

We can farm the precursor. However, it has “NO” ending spot. It is purely random unless you buy gold or the RNG smiles upon you and hands it to you. Legendaries are not really that bad because in the big picture most everything is known. BUT if you strickly go it alone and wait for a drop you may be waiting forever and a day. Top it off you may get the wrong pre-cursor and not even want it because it isn’t like you can tip the hat and get what you want.

Buy or trade and those take some time to get. Getting the karma and badges are easy. The rest of it is a piece of work that is the grind…

You know, I have been wondering this as well actually because I normally run with the AH / Crit Hammer build with staff out in WvWvW and getting a bit frustrated. It isn’t the build per say, but more of me probably not understanding the class mechanics or what to do when, etc (and hammer seems so slowwwww).

I was thinking of trying to use my existing gear set and overall build and swap staff out with sword/shield or scepter/shield (or focus with either, even maybe torch). Just not sure if it would work out and just frustrate me more – lol.

I’m 0/15/30/20/5 overall, with Draconic Knights exotic, rare mithril beserker accessories, and exotic hammer/staff with rare sigs of accuracy. I’d have to buy some form of 1 handed weapons and off hands but those are typically pretty cheap. I have rares sitting in my bank (shield and scepter) but they are not that great. Was thinking of throwing those in the mystic forge and see what I get – or sell / salvage them I guess.

I know this can be done, and people do it. I’m thinking that is just the honest skill of the player behind the keyboard rather than the class Some of you guys/gals are just better in the big picture and can make any class look or play good.

I was also considering looking into a “I can’t be killed cuz I have a metric ton of health/toughness” build but “can’t kill anything” just for fun…

The gap the new gear brings will only get wider over time. Why? Because they will be adding more over time. Arena.net said this, not us. So today it is a ring or two and a back item. Tomorrow (figure of speech in regards to time) they will add weapons. We have already seen on accident (maybe, maybe not) the stats because Legendaries got the bump which was soon patched back to normal.

So today those that play have some serious choices to make. And those who are not playing today but may buy the game a couple months down the road now have a mandated gear climb in order to play or be on a equal playing field. We can all agree or disagree but the facts speak on their own merit.

Exotics are not the end game gear.
FoTM will require gear to get past level what, 10 or 15, depending on player skill (dodge).
People are already being selective on players being added to groups.
LFM FoTM level 15 (compared to new 80 seeking level 1, 2).
No LFG tool.

How many post in the forums that actually play is a tough nut to judge. I really don’t know but the mother of all merged threads I’d say in my opinion most didn’t like the new gear and suggested multiple ways of getting around it.

Be that as it may, we are not the developers nor do we pay the bills over there. I only know of the 6 RL people who started to play this together I’m the last one standing. T/Spvp isn’t it for me. For me it is exploring the world (gear doesn’t matter) and WvWvW.

And to the chap who said WvWvW is all zerg. Yeah, probably for most. However, there are people that actually run in groups of 4 or 5 and do very well. Amazing how fast 3 to 4 people can take a keep and opposing groups can’t really tell becuase there are no crossed swords…

I’ll play, I’ll play.

Exciting new, and fun, jump puzzles.
Interesting, and fun, new dungeon with random paths upon enter.
World event and updated content.

However…

Ascended gear, ascended tokens based on RNG, “increased” stats (yeah, only 2 for now)
Dungeon difficulties. Newer or non-pve players will suffer for now groups doing lvl 1
Overflow today, next week probably not
@ lvl 80 still obtained lvl 76 to 80 loot
Buggs – fell under last boss, as well as 50 other poor souls, so couldn’t see its death
Double health bars on new mobs
Too many things to have to redo which sort of took away from it in the end

Personally it is a nice idea but I think the dungeon levels / difficulties will cause trouble for those who don’t run PvE content or it regular routine. What is already happening are more are doing higher levels and those trying for 1 struggle to find a group. Or, it takes a while. Also, people get one that takes a lot of coordination and fail (swamp) then leave…

Anyway – just my thought on the subject. Overall ok, but failed on new gear stats, future history of more gear, and how the ascended fragments drop.

Fractals? Sure, today, tomorrow. Maybe a bit into next week. However, people are moving faster through so it “appears” more groups are higher than 1. So…depending on what fractal level you are at, and if it is 1 or 2, chances are low and groups will take longer to find.

Once found, and depending on the fractal, it may take even longer. Swamp anyone? Yeah.

Not a huge fan although they do look nice and they “ARE” fun. Just see more LFM fractal groups 6 and up. Over flow you may have more room though as one possibility.

Lack of portal for weekly and monthly stats has a lot to do with it. There are zero rewards for WvWvW or semi tournament play.

You don’t need gear progression. You need bragging rights for things like weekly kill count, biggest hit, weakest hit, against the odds, guild takes, losses, keeps taken, most supplies used, quickest pvp jump puzzle, by class, etc

We got nothing and was upped one by a new gear grind.

I’ve done the new instances now several times since yesterday and honestly see some issues. While it isn’t crazy difficult and it is “FUN” I can see plenty of people getting frustrated and bailing. Happened to me several times now with one run through the swamp a utter failure. Anger and bailing until we got tired of trying to get more people in. Swamp may be a rarity here, but the escavation one isn’t much grander, you know?

I’m at level 2 and I can only imagine how much more difficult it gets and what happens to those groups. You know what this reminds me of if truth be told? It reminds me of DaOC’s Trials of Atlantis expansion and the master level grind. 10 master levels each with rewarding a new skill. It was mandatory if you wanted to be doing any form of pvp realm vs. realm you had to have master levels.

Those with 10 master levels set the bar and it was night and day obvious those who had vs. thsoe who didn’t. Heck, we could pvp naked with master level 10 it was that ground breaking. Factor in artifacts and scroll farming it broke the game. Acended items are what, 2 right now? But they are adding weapons next because we already saw the legendary buff / reset before they patched it.

Drop rate, account bound, and gear grind not so great. I can honestly see a lot of people getting bored over the next 10 to 15 days and never logging back in. Those being who do environmental and WvWvW things

Rumor has it that swtor cost about 200 million to make. If GW2 sold 2 million copies there isn’t a far stretch that it netted in 98 million of box sales alone at a steady 49 buck per copy. That leaves them about 1.2 million shy of 2 if that is what these games go for now adays.

How much money does the trading post net a day? Good question and I have no idea. I avoid it like the plague but I know people who play LoL and they buy stuff all the time. So that formula works just not sure how it works with GW2.

If the idea behind the Black Lion Chests was to earn some cash then I’m failing at that game because as I said I have 27 and haven’t bought any key. So I’m not helping then any I guess because I’m playing the game and doing everything from within it.

In trouble? You point out some interesting statistics but it really is pretty subjective. The one thing I agree on 100% is the whole NCsoft connection. That company has a way of destroying games regardless of how well one of their games did in the past and they never got the whole East vs. West play styles correct. Once I heard NCsoft was publishing this game I cringed and almost didn’t want to buy it.

Be that as it may, the one area that I’m beyond frustrated over is the new gear and potential grind down the road it is going to bring. Sugar coat it anyway you want but the main post now is what, 8,000 posts and a order of magnitude more views. People are upset over the whole deal and continue to point to the original vision from the devs: No Grind.

Glass half full, glass half empty – take your pick but I for one don’t really like it. There are several things I would have done to make it challenging for other play styles but you know, they didn’t ask me (or anyone else). They just did it and now have people pretty upset.

I do know this though. Out of the 5 people I personally know who played the game with me I’m the only one left who plays it. I log in nightly and work on map completion. I farmed a bit of Orr for my exotic gear which I bought via gold. I do the daily to get my karma drink. If a precursor drops then I’ll have karma and I’ll have the honor badges. Beyond that I’m flat out broke with 15 gold, 10 slot bags, and default bank space.

I have 27 chests that I’ll probably have to give away because I never get keys and I’m not going to use my gold to buy gems, etc. I’ve never every paid money for gold or to buy stuff in game. I pay for the retail box, or a monthly fee. I’m not too keen on spending more outside the box. To each his/her own though.

Game is fun. Love the environment. Crazy love the jump puzzles. Just don’t honestly like a gear progression. I like a end state and even playing field when I WvWvW…

Note to thread.

Not all of us want to run dungeons or a instance thereof. Some of us just want to explore the world environment and do a little bit of PvP/WvWvW. Along the way we earn enough to buy our exotic armor set and accessories.

We continue to explore and earn to add the pattern and/or skin with associated dyes for looks. Knowing we are doing this and stats are staying equal regardless of exotic or tier level (say tier 3). We can now enter whatever content we want and not be any different than others in the group + or 1 stat distribution (healing, toughness, condition, etc).

Now there is a new choice to be made. While only 2 pieces or so, it has been stated that more are to come. Weapons are next on the list. 175 pages later people have voiced their concern, fear, hate, dislike, love, like, etc hoping to be heard. One thing for sure is that there “appears” to be more dislike than in favor of.

It doesn’t matter because it is going in tomorrow. Oddly enough I have personally never set foot into a instance/dungeon nor do I plan to. I’m still wondering the environment and smelling the flowers. A minority here, but I enjoy that more than fighting scripted beasts.

Please don’t break the environment and WvWvW aspect of the game.

I’m not sure about the rest of you but how many other games have you played that had some form of gated content that you didn’t like? Or better yet, required a magic potion or resist stat to help one through it.

DaOC did this back with Trials of Atlantis.
WoW did this with the original Nax content, and subsequent fights.
WoW did it again with BC and the dungeon crawl to unlock the next content.

People hated it then, they hate it now. In the case of DaOC and the Atlantis expansion, it was the end of the game.

What happened, I have to ask, to just making a encounter fun, or new, or unique?

You could have just put a item somewhere out in the world map that someone stumbled upon that is needed to kill the boss or grant immunity I mean, call it Pet Rock Alpha 1×000. Make it rainbow in color and attach a note saying something like, but not limited to:

“You sir/madam have found the Pet Rock Alpha 1×000. Take it to the instance XYZ and throw it when the dragon breaths the fire of doom!”

I mean heck, you could have hide several items all over and 1 person in each group brings them. Combine them and it creates a potion for all to drink. Again, problem solved.

But no. You had to go and introduce something better than what we have and caused this Now my panties are in a knot. True, they are.

Wheel on the buss goes round and round, round and round, round and round.
Wheel on the buss goes…

And so it starts. At the end of the day this always points to something that worked back in 2004 but is not applicable to today. There is absolutly no reason to not publish a evenironmentally friendly game whereas content changes yet stats don’t.

Absolutly no reason for this. Worlds can change, creatures evolve, and new challenges created yet done with the basic gear that was deployed upon retail launch.

Any VC holders here reading the forum or playing the games? Give me 25 million and I’ll do just that and more. No reason why our ROI can’t be 250% if not more. The MMO space is dead and needs change.

The OP has a point if you take a step back.

Asking for a web portal for everyone to see off the forum pages isn’t a bad thing. Said portal should include:

1. Server rankings (which they provide manually mind you already)
2. Top 25 kills by class
3. Top 25 kills by guild
4. Most keeps taken or defended by guild
5. Fun statistics like: Most killed, biggest / weakest hits, highest fall, fastest jump puzzle clear, etc

Point being is you don’t need to tie it to a skill earned or new object. You could tie it to a skill point I guess, but why bother. Sometimes talking trash or looking at how you stack against others is just a friendly game. Ladders don’t hurt.

No idea, that is what I was wondering. Let me check because something has to be bugged. I also use Sigil of Accuracy. Has to be me. Will log back in here and see.

Ok, logged back in. Not sure but my client downloaded something or patch for this weekend I guess. Anyway, it showed a correct healing power now. I really have no idea what happened. I apologize as crit damage and heal power are reporting correctly now.

43 – crit
2,842 – attack
14,085 – health
2,820 – armour
200 – heal power
61 – critdamage

Looking at the exotic Rune’s of the Eagle I’m guessing my crit damage would go up by that alone as would crit. I guess I should save up for those since they are pusing 3 gold each give or take.

Portal bad for the game? Hardly, and I’m a guardian. Nothing pleases me more than after we take a keep or something major to hear, “check every hiding place, we don’t want any Mesmer’s hiding”. I think it is a great element to the game.

Be lucky they don’t allow a class, especially Thiefs, to scale walls. Then you would have another issue in which you say is ground breaking. Honestly, we all know how they work. Just adapt. Let us not dumb down the game

Couple things missing in the game the way I see it, but I will be the first to say I’m new to the whole GW series. So what I mean is I really don’t know what crowd this game caters to. Is it PvP or PvE?

First – I hail from DaOC. Played since retail all the way though the expansion after Trials of Atlantis. DaOC if you don’t know was built from the ground up only for PvP. More importantly, it was Realm vs. Realm – which is somewhat akin to GW2’s WvWvW. There are no BG’s. Just keeps, relics, and gates. You roam, you control, etc. You can probably google DaOC and find a wiki or such to get more detail but long and short of it is this.

You fight, you control keeps, you take relics, you earn realm points, you go up in ranks (1 through 12).

What this game is missing from a PvP perspective is not a “gear or item” grind but a portal in which one can view their feats. Back in 2001 when DaOC was released it had such a portal that listed top realm point earners by class, overall top, guild, and alliance. No gear grind, just flat out bragging rights as to the top 25 for the week. Anyone could see how they did and it gave them something to shoot for.

You could zerg and kill more and faster. Or you could form a smaller group of say 8 and go tactical. Better yet, you could go full stealth group and control the various main gates and cause all sort of mayhem. Point being rewards are the same based on a kill point value divided by those who touched or healed within x feet of kill. Support got it, melee got it, and range got it. So if a kill was worth 1,000 realm points solo, and a group of 5 killed said person, 1,000 gets divided…easy, huh?

So I mentioned GW2 is lacking a portal for weekly and monthly stats. What else? Well, the way I see it we need a Alliance option. Or, call it whatever, but the whole commander thing is a bit wobbly in my opinion. Do this by chat or by alliance, or something that allows people to more readily communicate. I know there is /team and /map but they seem cumbersom. Could be just me I guess, but some form of guild mergers strickly for PvP would be a nice idea – limit it if you need, dunno. Would allow smaller guilds to work with larger ones for those who like small parties or are anit-social

Lets see, alliance? Check. Portal request? Check. WvWvW instance and/or jumping puzzle. Check – but could we add some more risk in there? I am not going to mention Darkness Falls here (another DaOC reference) but you already have this super fun place with a reward at the end of it (badges, plans, and gear). Could you spice it up a bit and add in some random mobs. I do mean random. Take every mob you have in the game and honestly just randomly spawn them in there daily. Make them roam as singles, or groups. Traps are fun and all, as are the other servers players. But it is a clear path the rest of the way end everywhere inbetween. It could be a great place to hang out in and play. Say add a higher chance of crafting mats or precurser legendary items.

Summary:
1. Web portal with character rankings, by class, kills, guild, together. Maybe add in weakest hit, highest hit, most deaths, death by X, etc.
2. Add mobs, and pathing ones, to the WvWvW jumping puzzles. Add chance to drop crafting mats or precursers.
3. Alliance or some form of commander rework to allow team communication and/or large and small guild teams.

I think it is like TheGreatA said, it requires luck in WvWvW / PvP.

Personally I prefer #3 but even it is very unreliable.

You move fast grashopper. When I first read the post I was like, are you seriously asking what to do? Then I re-read it, and I’m still not sure and asking the same question. You have only had the game for 2 maybe 3 weeks and you are asking this question

I only hit 80 1 month ago and I played during the head start On one hand there is a good video post as to what to do once you hit 80 by a chap named ‘Woodenpotatoes’. Google that and take a look. Also there is another post tagged 80 things to do at 80 that may be of interest.

If you are looking at what role to play then you need to take a step back and check what game you are playing because it can be anything you want and more. If in the end it isn’t the playstyle and class then you need to try some of the others. As many already said the game isn’t cut and dry as to group composition. It is, on the other hand, possible to swap things around to do a little of both. Guardians can do a bit of everything and use just about every weapon combination available.

In the end it comes down to you and what you want to do.

I missed this thread earlier but just posted this in the AH/Crit Hammer sticky earlier today ironically enough because I think I’m on the lower end of requirements. Not sure how some of you are getting has high as you are. Only thing I can think of is quality of gear.

I’m in Exotic Knight’s Draconic, Exotic PvP Invader Hammer, Rare Mithril Accessories, Rare Rune’s (5 Eagle 1 Lysse). I feel I can hold my own as I roam out in WvWvW but honestly I’m still struggling with burst classes such as Thiefs. I know it isn’t a issue of OP but one of knowing when to do what, but I’m just crappy at it I guess.

43% — Recommended: 40-60% crit
2,842 – Recommended: 2800-3400 Attack
14,085 Recommended: 14k-18k health
2,820 – Recommended: 2400-3300 armour
106 — Recommended: 200-1200 heal power
32 – Recommended: 51-105% critdamage

Seems like I’m on the minimum or lower side of the requirements. Do the runes and sigils really make up that much of a difference? Or better yet, do my “rare” runes and accessories make that much of a difference? I’m guessing they do.

I’m in exotic’s across the board for armor and weapons. However, runes and accessories are rare. 5 eagle runes and 1 lysse. Accessories are ruby mithril if I recall correctly. Anyway, was just re-visiting this thread when I saw that I was on the lower side of the requirements.

Still fun, but just made me wonder.

43% — Recommended: 40-60% crit
2,842 – Recommended: 2800-3400 Attack
14,085 Recommended: 14k-18k health
2,820 – Recommended: 2400-3300 armour
106 — Recommended: 200-1200 heal power
32 -- Recommended: 51-105% critdamage

Wonder how many of us about this time last year geared up to play SWTOR?

Wonder how many of us are still playing that game today? It maybe lasted what, 2 months? Heck, 3 is being generous. Then what happened? Servers turned into ghost towns. One after another after another. Most people moved to Fat Man just to find groups and/or active pvp.

Today the game is free to play and still dead – new patch or not. Nothing is going to save that sinking ship and even the rats are bailing. The only difference here is that it was already free to play. Having said that, they do have things in common.

Patches and bugs. If I was sitting in the development chair I would honestly think twice about Friday’s release. What is the long term goal and if I release this what will the ripple effects do?

There is nothing gained by releasing it on Friday. No money is at stake. However:

There is everything to lose.

@Konde,

Google 80 things to do at 80 and let me know how many on that list you have completed. I’m willing to bet you haven’t done 1/4 of the list.

There “ARE” things to do in the game.

Wheels on the buss go round and round…

Anyone here in the U.S. notice this thread view count is spinning faster than our national debt? That should make everyone smile.

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On topic another thing that is somewhat troubling is that the content is out this weekend, there is trouble in the kitchen via this post, and all is quite on the game developers front.

Does this much chatter even warrent a pause?

@EverythingXen.1835

“That “manifesto” was never, ever going to work for a game with as much invested in it as GW2. There’s no money in it.”

There isn’t? The initial ROI (return on investment) is obtained from retail copies (box or digital downloads). Nothing more. Future returns are on expansion sales and gem store purchases. No more, no less.

Without a supporting community there will be no returns and future content or expansions will be null and void. In summary. If no one is playing there is no need for development teams, etc.

@PeerlessArch.6547

A couple of reasons.

1. Game was hyped as a “non” treadmill game
2. It starts with only 2, but they mentioned “more to come, weapons, etc”
3. 1 + 2 = 3. Math is simple, see what I did there? Once it starts, it doesn’t end and that is the current state of other games today. What starts as a simple item budget increase and/or level never ends. Thus a lvl 60 74 dps weapon grows to a level 504 weapon yielding 5,000 dps.

There was really nothing wrong with the overall game as it was originally billed I think is what some people are debating. Subjective I know, but it is what it is. Environmentally the game offered so much as it is, why do this now? Why couldn’t the raid portion just be fine tuned or altered another way? Why does it have to tie to a shiny object or stat increase?

Couldn’t you just move the clock tower jump puzzle developer to the dungeons? That seemed to generate a lot of chatter surrounding difficulty and the 5% folks…

I mean there are many ways to skin this cat if you really wanted to. Personally, I liked the idea of a non gear progression based MMO game that actually makes people get out and look at the environment. Heck, I just found the hidden jump puzzle the other day working on my map complete task. Swim by, look around, looks like a path, find a gate, enter, see some rocks and push plates, place rocks on button/plate, gate opens, enter, etc.

That, to me, is pricesless. But alas I’m not the only one playing this game