Guild Wars 2

I’m not going to advocate either bad or good in regards to what the build does or was, or the player for that matter. But isn’t the 0/0/10/30/30 build with Clerics the healing build typically?

And isn’t the whole point of the build to outlast and support the team?

Not like said person was going to be dishing out a metric done of damage and focus fire does wonders. That is why we have a target key and assist I guess to me I just assume it is a more forgiving build which may be easier on new or unskilled players. I actually put myself into that box although I also use a ’zerker / dps build.

If the borderland bug is still around then yes, that should be fixed to address the overall change. However, adjusting it down further would be rather silly and make it useless.

Guardians sort of remind me of Thanes (DaOC) and Paladins (WoW) in that the class is borderline overpowered with the slightest change. Meaning we are one of the most balanced classes in the game yet a single change will either put us over the top or at the bottom being easy kills. When compared to other classes that is. Hybrids have this generally and while GW2 doesn’t do healing/dps type classes Guardians do have overall support in concept.

So this leads us down this merry road of free loot bag to God mode, et al. Rather silly if you want just one mans opinion.

Christos de Soufre.3802:

All of that said, I’ve got a question for you lovelies: What would YOU have named the Healway build? I’m looking for something mechanically correct, much like AH.

:)

I would call it….

Inside, Looking Out

Why? Because much like this name beng the title of a song by The Animals, it can be found on the album entitled Absolute Animals. Absolute being one thing this build must have and that is “healing” traits and gear. The rest, of course, is up to the player. Thus the “Looking Out” part.

Anyway – Healway Guardian is good enough (just one mans opinion). When it is spoken I know the primary build people are discussing.

So a exotic chest vs. a celestial chest will have the same stat point value? Ascended gear has more.

Banish. Has to be #1 for me while in a trolling mode. More so in the EB JP than anything else.

Shield 5 (name escapes me). Close second because people forget to use stability and I always get several people pushed off bridges or cliffs.

New PvP map will probably make hours of fun using these two options

Have to say, just being Frank, I have no idea what the hell it is, never heard of it, total deer in the headlights.

So – first things first. Thank you for taking one for the team Simply put, you are doing this before most to our advantage. Very kind of you – lol.

Secondly, has noted above, no idea what it is nor why I would even want it has of yet. I’m not into gear grinds so this at first read, raises all kinds of alarms. I’m still upset over the whole ascended gear (late to the party, I know – but always planned – so they say) but maybe this is just stat distribution or cosmetic.

Tertiary – if it doesn’t effect current stats (additional mean, aka another GAP), then it probably still doesn’t effect me because I don’t really grind out thinks like this gear or legendaries. While I would like to, and I like better looking textures or skins, the best I’ve done to date is saving / farming enough gold to purchase a complete T3 armor set – lol.

So – to answer your question. I think it is cool that you are doing this and will probably save some people time and money. My thought would be to see if it works within your current or mainstay build (AH, Hammer). That would probably give you the most feedback and/or feel since you know it so well. I couldn’t see you going say healing because that isn’t your main (unless I’m wrong).

Anyway – hope it looks cool never the less.

foofad.5162:

Kjeldoran.3849:

Both builds are hard to use but with mine you have a better survivability in 1vs1 and zerg vs zerg. See you

What? Mine has 100 more armor and 1500 more health than yours.

Crapgame.6519:

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What did you run before this? The damage you get in Altruistic Healing builds like this is mediocre at best, there are much higher sustained and burst builds out there. This is also way, way tankier than most zerked out burst builds, too. I’m not sure if more tank is going to help you out much.

Me? I was running a healing build with Clerics gear and various weapons. I was just saying I am using the build you linked on the 2nd page. And that it takes some getting used to coming from a support / out last everyone build.

In short – try has hard as I might, I always end up charging in thinking I can mitigate the incoming damage like my previous build. I can’t. So it makes me think a bit more on how I enter a fight. Especially around solo roaming and thief duo’s.

Your post below – sorry for the confusion:
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foofad.5162

Switching around 10 points and leaving everything else roughly the same yields this:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.4|c.1g.h15.d.1g.h2|1.1g.h15|1c.74.1g.74.1c.74.1g.74.1c.74.1g.a7|4s.0.1c.67.1c.67.1g.67.1g.67.8g.67|a2.0.u64b.u28b.0|55.7|w.17.19.18.1i|e

Has higher effective health, and more damage, using cheaper runes and only an ascended amulet. On top of that, it has extremely high Fury uptime due to the combination of SY! and Citadel runes.

I will say I went and swapped to a spec discussed here and posted by Foofad (below). I’ll say this. It isn’t for the beginner. And…if you come from a supporting role build, say healing, swap hats because you can’t just go flying into the middle of a battle and expect to survive any longer – lol.

I’m not even sure if the build (any sole DPS build for that matter) is good for a average player to be honest. It provides a metric ton of DPS but if you don’t know when to bail forget it. You will be a loot bag in a matter of seconds. However, on the other hand play smart, mitigate the initial burst, then usually it is a win and loot bag.

Initially Thiefs using this build mow through my 16K in heal leaving me only about 2500 or so left. This morning I’ve actually got it to where I don’t worry about it and go on the offensive taking them out instead. The play style seems faster. Much faster than what I’m used to. And like I noted, you can’t just jump into the furthest target player behind everyone and attack You, er, I mean me, need to be a bit more selective and oppertunistic I guess.

What a bad idea to do this after a WvW server reset weekend Tarnished Coast and Dragonbrand are both highly populated servers that always seem to roam the field in very large groups. Camps, yaks, and even outposts have someone in a duo hanging out and guarding. Then when you do find one, they (rightly so) fight for a second, then turn and beat feet out and bring friends So far this weekend has been a relearning of playing an offensive guardian.

Its tough (for me). Interesting to see how many of you have been doing this for a while now like it is nothing – lol.

Nice build.
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.4|c.1g.h15.d.1g.h2|1.1g.h15|1c.74.1g.74.1c.74.1g.74.1c.74.1g.a7|4s.0.1c.67.1c.67.1g.67

foofad.5162:

Switching around 10 points and leaving everything else roughly the same yields this:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.4|c.1g.h15.d.1g.h2|1.1g.h15|1c.74.1g.74.1c.74.1g.74.1c.74.1g.a7|4s.0.1c.67.1c.67.1g.67.1g.67.8g.67|a2.0.u64b.u28b.0|55.7|w.17.19.18.1i|e

Has higher effective health, and more damage, using cheaper runes and only an ascended amulet. On top of that, it has extremely high Fury uptime due to the combination of SY! and Citadel runes.

Yeah you did, epic. 1 ascended piece, wow.
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Effective Power – 4278.47
Effective Health (EHP) – 24348
Damage Reduction = 33.11%
Reference Armor -1836

Question. Does it matter that the critical damage is 79% and critical chance is 40%? I’m guessing food makes them both increase?

And, is there a primary, secondary, etc stat to focus on? Of course this is coming from another MMO mindset whereas you try and get one stat has high has possible because that is the primary modifier. Meaning, with the build you posted (thank you, that is pretty sweet actually) has a 40% crit chance.

Does that mean you will crit 40% of the time? 4 out of 10 swings sort of thing? Or am I out in left field?

Using the build discussed, posted by Kjeldoran, and swapping chest to berserker, legs to knights. Also changed upgrades on armor to Wurm, Golemancer, Holebrak, lyssa, and soldiers, it is all close. Some dropped power under 2k while others dropped critical damage down to 90.

I thought Power, Critical Damage, and Critical Chance all worked together? Or some form of 3 which maybe I added the wrong one?

Not sure if it matters or not. So I then swapped to Ruby and ended up with below. Not sure what ruby does vs. the others. What does this do I guess good or bad?

Power – 2081
Precision – 1742
Toughness – 1425
Vitality – 1288
Critical Damage + 102%
Condition Damage + 0
Condition Duration – 0%
Healing Power – 300
Boon Duration – 10%
Critical Chance – 43.35%
Damage – 10%
Armor – 2636
Health – 14525
Endurance Regeneration + 0%
Agony Resistance – 15
Virtue Recharge Rate – 10%

Farming and Leveling
Bonus Experience – 10%

Damage Reduction – 30.35%
Reference Armor – 1836

Hi Foofad, others.

Average player here Sucking it up and using Berserker armor, and accessories, would be a death blow – lol. Not sure how else to put it but I’ll be perfectly honest. I’m using a healing build with clerics everything outside weapons, and feel like I’m on top of the world because 1 or 3 things happen with this setup.

1. I out last them and they get bored. That is, if I don’t make a mistake. Usually they will get bored because I can manage their input of DPS. They get tired, reliease I’m not a easy kill, and go on. Most of the time we sync up, chat a bit, and move on.

2. I out last them until help comes This one I actually enjoy and feel like I actually did something. Like people have said WvWvW there really are not many objectives to hold or bunker down. However, there are a few things like camps or flags you can mess with. Same with guarding the mules running supplies – lol.

3. I mess up and die during the fights by not remembering who is doing what or when based on their annimations. Face better players. Or, simply get focused so that more dps input is happening than I can mitigate. Out played too.

I have a bag full fo knights gear I’m trying to tweak now and thinking of trying the berserker weapons and accessories. In fact, I am sitting on 110 laurels now that I’d love to use mixed in with badges. So I can get some accessories that work with both maybe I’d love to try. Probably have enough badges too for weapons if I have the wrong stuff.

I just don’t have a lot to work with in regards to expensive runes or another set of armor like soldiers or valks. I’m tapped

Anyway – long post, sorry. When I saw the suck it up and go Berserker it hit me that yeah, it would be nice. But I think those of you using it know better when you can charge, when to cut it and run, or just play…

Amins.3710:

Zero ascended gear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydi-7h0-oMY

It’s not needed to do “Big DPS”.

1. Asura I really, really, really, wish they would let us fork over some gems and swap race. Hammers + Asura’s are so much fun compared to others. I should have rolled one instead of Human

2. Fellow EB’er. GO TEAM!

3. 2 minutes in, classic. I didn’t notice any uptick players there. That is what I would call a ‘good o’l fashion MollyWhoppin!‘. Overall good AOE numbers, lived, managed your character, didn’t appear to panic. Just rolled on in and smacked some heads in.

4. Music – calming. Reminded me of Kelly’s Hero’s when Oddball was driving the tank through the tunnel…played music. Asked about it, he said it calmed his boys and made the enemies go WTF, over.

5. BANISH! Yeah!

6. Above average player. By no means do I mean that negative. I mean you are a good player, uses binds, knows the class, didn’t panic. It showed.

Thanks for sharing. I’ve seen you around and wanted to yap a bit but figured you don’t need a stalker!

If you have badges or gold, try something different. That is actually what I’m doing now.

I originally played the one of the first AH builds posted here. Was fun. Then swapped everything around and played more of a support / healing build. That was good up till this patch and I found myself in your position. Not so much bored, but wanting to actually try a DPS role for once.

So has of now I’m trying to see if I can muster up a build using my previous Knights armor and only buy accessories. Not sure if I can but who knows. Plan is to use Hammer, Shield, and Scepter. I could also use sword/shield. Budget of 10 gold roughly is what I can spend on accessories, sigs, etc. Not a lot so doubt this will work.

I’ve been tempted to try the zerker builds here but I know personally I’m not good at dodging so would probably get destroyed

So….looking for a forgiving (help me mama) dps build Lol.

You should have all weapons anyway. If you don’t, you soon will. It just has a way of working out like that. With that being said, and to add a bit what Parthis said above:

Some builds do reference, or are built, around a weapon of choice. Meaning there is a primary weapon for some with a secondary in mind.

Think of it has synergy. It just has a way of working out like that. Regardless, the one common thread though in all of the builds is our collection of weapons

Interesting options actually. I’m sitting on about 110 laurels right now. Primary cleric/healaway build. Post patch I’m not too thrilled more so in group play than I was before.

I know it is 20 + 250 badges for neck. 25+250 badges per ring. And the other one is what, 40 each + 50 ecto’s.

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Crapgame.6519:

I blame my DaOC days when I played a Thane.

My Infiltrator loved you Thanes >:)

Yeah, they did. And rightly so. If it got bad then I’d just swap over to my spiritmaster and use lifetap and pboae.

Wish the EB jp was a bit more like DF. Such potential in there yet empty of anything including risk.

I don’t know what the current “healing” build is but one of the original spec was along the lines of: 0/0/10/30/30. Christos, if I recall, went through several iterations trying different things before he stepped aside to enjoy other things and/or the game. I think a lot of people went overboard or got too excited about it all and it got to be a bit much (I’m not going to speak for him but that was my take).

I am actually still using it above has I noted in another thread which is built using clerics gear and accessories. I started out using sword/focus and greatsword. It is still the primary weapon choice but I’m a wee bit stubborn and swap focus with the shield. I blame my DaOC days when I played a Thane.

Anyway – the build has a whole works. I only do WvW. The few instance/dungeons I do, the build works. I’m not a high fractal person so don’t take my word there. I am still under level 10 I think it works best in groups. I feel I can still charge in and push people back regardless of numbers. Staff and shield work for my playstyle.

Solo play today is a bit more rough and I don’t know if it is our server match up, patch, or my ignorance of the class still (yes, even since playing from open betas). I’m just not a really good player knowing what the person is doing (animations or stuff) I’m fighting and what counters it. So I’m a reactionary player which probably doesn’t help this build or class.

In short, while I really want to find a good mix of healing gear with DPS I think I’d die more than using this setup. I think it is more forgiving if that makes sense. I feel that I live longer so it is fun. In zergs I can push which is my tendency anyway – just run in like a bull in a China shop and hope for the best.

To those who did this build, and a few others sharing in the various threads. Thanks. The GW2 community hopefully feels the same way. It is a bit glass full/empty deal. You share information that could be used against you in WvW At the same time people send tells in game or via PM’s and it can be a burden.

Thanks never the less. It does help some people enjoy the game even if we don’t always say thanks.

Hi Bailey – yeah, I think it swings both ways actually in regards to zergs so maybe I’m just being a baby – lol.

There are builds but not a lot. I don’t know if it is more or less than others because the only other class I’ve played is a Ranger who is stuck at 40 something. I’ve run a poor mans AH build that is at the top of the forum here by brutaly which isn’t bad. But at the time I didn’t have all the gear so maybe I could always pick up a few pieces to finish it and try it again.

While I like the hammer (banish) for fun and giggles, I always found it too slow for me. Not to mention the fact I don’t think I did the annimation dance correctly (if ever). Also, had I known about this I maybe would have if I rolled a Asura rather than a Human Something about the Asura’s (little fella’s) wielding a large hammer and their annimations…

Heienkatso.9628:

No problem, but it isn’t anything fancy. This is, or was, Christos (sorry if I mispelled) healing build. I probably didn’t do it much justice but this is what I recall and have been running for a while now. Usually greatsword, focus, and sword. However, I also mix in greatsword, staff, and shield. I like the shield for some strange reason.

0/0/10/30/30

valorous defense, purity
vigorous precision, superior aria, selfless daring, two handed mastery, elusive power, battle presence
inspired virtue, vengeful, virtue of retribution, absolution resolution
power of the virtous, indomitable courage

This is off the top of my head – I couldn’t check and I can’t read my notes I originally wrote this on- sorry. I do know I always use:
Signet of Resolve, Wall of Reflection, Save Yourself, Stand your Ground, and Renewed Focus.

I don’t recall how much I dodge heal for. Sorry. I know I can usually outlast and wear them down. Either one of us gets tired and leaves, or I make a mistake (often) and get killed. Honestly, my biggest issue in this game is keybinding and staying on target. I lose track of so many targets it isn’t funny One minute I have them, then next I don’t and I just to never never land scrambling to find them all over and land a darn hit

So yeah – newb who has played since beta’s and still learning

No, I don’t think you got that bad all of a sudden. I think some classes got adjusted more maybe over the last few patches with this one being major for 1 or 2 classes. We didn’t get any negative adjustments. But depending on your stance we got something.

I know I’m probably going to be changing but waiting till Friday I think. I mostly roam solo or in a duo in WvWvW and while typically doing well, this week I’m getting destroyed. I don’t think it has much to do with the patch but rather than the server (Dragonbrand) who roam with 60 or more…so fights haven’t been much in my favor regardless if they start 1 or 2 v 1 they quickly turn into 1 v 10

I’m in all clerics gear, accessories, all exotic (no ascended at all). In fact, I may be to the point whereas I can withstand only yet not kill anyone (case in point a up ticked ranger earlier – I just walked away). So I need to change something just not sure what.

Clerics
1,594 power
1,019 precision
1,604 toughness
1,255 vitality
25 condition damage
45% boon duration
18% critical damage
2,548 attack
9% critical chance
2,876 armor
14,195 health
1,320 healing power

Sitting with a bank of Knights gear, hammer. I also have 102 laurels and a metric ton of honor badges. Was thinking of trying to mix and match a good build using zerker gear for dps but also fit in a bit of heal/health. I like to use shield, great sword, sword, focus, staff, and torch. I’m just not good at this so the cleric/heal build is what I’ve used for a while now but I guess that needs to change…

Amins.3710:

Poor update if these are them.

I’m loosing faith, quickly, in Anet.

I give every game at least 1 year as the first year is hashing out bugs / balance issue….

Anet’s report card is a C.

This is not enough to keep me playing.

Yup, pretty much my record. Give them a year to see how it goes normally works (SWtOR withstanding). I don’t understand what they are doing at the moment.

Away – shoutout to a fellow EB’er Got to love our matchup this week Just ran into a 60 strong zerg

So what sort of party are we in and what are we doing? Because I think that matters more than anything else.

There is structured PvP
There is WvWvW – which is unpredictable
Then there is PvE

Also, let us add in another missing piece called “SKILL” Let us face it there are people that can stay alive playing their avatar / character with nothing on but a loin cloth vs. people decked out in armor and maxed stats. Just how it goes. Some people on the other hand need a bit more mitigation than others to make up for the lack of skill. No, gear still doesn’t matter but it does help if they make a mistake, miss a click, skill, etc. I’m not even going to go down the road of when to use what skill, etc.

Right now in WvW the match up for ebay is dragonbrand which is a mother of all zerging server. I don’t think if I switched out to full zerker gear I’d last 2 seconds. Heck, in clerics I don’t last more than 4 probably. However, I do get in a few skills off to punt those who don’t understand the use of stability….fun watching the lemmings getting punted over cliffs and off bridges

Anyway – wall of text aside I think there is a time and a place for the various gears and please remember. You can’t factor in skill…

You pick one because you can….not because you should. You should go to the bathroom, get dressed, eat, go to work, school, etc. But you “shouldn’t” pick a Guardian.

The question I’d ask you rather is this. Have you played RPG’s or MMO’s in the past and if so, what sort of class was your primary/main?

If you haven’t then I’d ask what lights a fire under your kitten and what playstyle favors you? Do you like to be up front and personal? Do you like to blindly charge in before anyone else, kick in their faces, smash some heads in, and live to drink about it? Or, do you like to use range to your advantage and not get all dirty or bloody yet kill people? Come on, we won’t poke fun at you (ok, not in public anyway)…

Kyo.7369:

This was a great video, loved the part when you unleashed your burst on the pocket groups of players.

Don’t mean this in a belittle way (its more of a nitpick I’d wager) but if you look at the pocket group he hit, you lots of green uptic arrows.

Yes, still have the health pool but may be missing other things – not that it matters.

Actually, what I find to be more fun is to ambush them in the various jump puzzles out in WvW. EB’s you have several places whereas they can’t really see you more so if they are rushing. Up top just before the chest on the stairs when then make that last ledge to step jump…

Banish = a deer in the headlight 99% of the time WTF just happened, over.

Also just has they get through the darkroom that last beam jump to steps. Banish again or sit there pretending to be akitten. As they make the jump use shield 5 I also pull that one out there in the standard battlegrounds when they make the upper key jump to the lower level branch Just banish or shield them and off they go…

You know it is going to be good when only 33 seconds into the video Corey says,

“LET ME KILL THE ROLEPLAYERS!”

Same here…have to be missing something. New build didn’t fix it. So has to be me I’d wager.

Sovta.4719:

Crapgame.6519:

I supposed people say it because of what it is compared to. In most cases outside LoL F2P games are failed subscription based. LoTR, AoC, Terra, Rift, and Swtor to name just a few. There are more, but I think you get the idea of why people say what they say. I guess it is subjective or just an opinion either way. Your view or mine which is perfectly fine.

Content is what it is. If it wasn’t there upon release then it was added. Be it seasonal, achievements, realm ranks, or anything else for that matter. Let us not split hairs.

So you get 2-3 achivements that tells you how awesome you are and think that is big update? Nice
You must love this new “dungeon”.

Wow, that doesn’t sound nice… /sadface

No, that isn’t what I consider a big update. However, there is probably several months worth if you use your favorite search engine to look. Yes, I agree they also include bug fixes and balance to all classes. There are almost patches every month once you look. Holloween, wintersday, lost shores, personal story, flame and frost, ascended gear, fractals, super adventure box, etc.

I mean it is all there. Are we discussing semantics here in regards to what constituted content?

I supposed people say it because of what it is compared to. In most cases outside LoL F2P games are failed subscription based. LoTR, AoC, Terra, Rift, and Swtor to name just a few. There are more, but I think you get the idea of why people say what they say. I guess it is subjective or just an opinion either way. Your view or mine which is perfectly fine.

Content is what it is. If it wasn’t there upon release then it was added. Be it seasonal, achievements, realm ranks, or anything else for that matter. Let us not split hairs.

IF and WHEN it hits…

dronzer.8392:

I think it’s average, it’s neither good nor bad… it needs more polishing…. much more.

9 months since retail launch give or take? I’d say you are probably not too far off mark. How much polish though is hard to say. I think any game of this type, especially one that has evolving content, will always need polishing. Not to belittle it though.

I myself would probably never go back to a subscription fee based game. I am also aware that I don’t think Arena Net has a whole could sustain evolving content with a reasonable, and good, development team. So something has to give. NCSoft has to pump in money or they have to offer something for people to buy in order to get some form of return. Just what the balance is I don’t know.

Having said that, I still login and truck along. There are things to do and much more that I don’t do for various reasons. Take fractals for example. I like the idea, they are actually neat (those that I’ve done); but I don’t have any desire to run anything else. Then there is sPvP. Been there, done that. Not a huge fan of being tied to a map. I didn’t like it in WoW or any other MMO, and I don’t like it now. Then there is WvW. DaOC style but the whole ranking thing was a knee jerk reaction which probably should have been better thought out (like make the rungs further apart and slower gained).

9 months though, not too bad all things considered. We have more content patched in and for free than most games offer via expansion packs. Doesn’t mean we can’t complain or want things changed, but I think it does put it in perspective.

Now…can I pay some gems to change race please…

Could you imagine if Blizzard dropped in a jump puzzle such as the Mad Kings Tower? Subscribers would go nuclear. Heck, look at what happened with attunments? Earlier even if you tried to get into Naxx – the original requirement involved arcane crystals and a crazy attunement that maybe only 1% of the population even had… Then factor in the 4 hoursmen. Maybe .05% of the population pre easy mode ever saw

Today is the new world order whereas people want it now. No effort, no wait.

GW2 is still a good game. Not perfect. But don’t be ignorant and say there isn’t anything to do. There is plenty to do and some of it is difficult. Fractals was a good start and I’m sure it will be refined even though I dislike the agony design.

Tell me how many of the ‘80 things to do at 80" you have done. Then we’ll talk about this game being dead.

Or…maybe it wasn’t that high of a priority? I mean it isn’t game breaking to our class.

RvR – 2001 Retail DaOC launch. Hitting lvl 21 and heading out into the real world not knowing what lays just down the road. Stealthers controlling the gates, etc.

Darkness Falls – DaOC RvR dungeon. Losing control of your keeps so enemy can gain access. Decide if you want to stand and fight, run and hide, or logout and come back later. Or, just go crazy and charge to their enterence and fight until death.

My Thane – DaOC – Magic hammers that break any and all CC which resulted in shouts and name calling over Vent because I wasn’t supposed to use them. Watching the number of hammers increase when fighting zergs…

Redcaps and Spiritmasters – sure fire way to power level any and all. PAC healer with suppression spiritmaster = loot and exp faster than you can blink an eye.

Not sure if there is anything you can do but seemed overall quality was off. Noise, clicking, or static I guess. I just listed to the plug-in off the URL you posted and didn’t download it. So maybe that could be it.

I play a guardian (duh, that is why I’m in this sub section I guess) and have since release. Although though beta’s I played a elementalist. It is interesting to see how others play the class and why. Noticed Christos mentioned Paladin. Oddly enough that is what I rolled in the other MMO. However, I find the guardian choice for me is because of DaOC and the Thane (Miss those AOE CC breaking Hammers of doom )

Interesting coversation in the background while I work so thanks. Overall topic wasn’t bad. Christos is known in the forums and his build thread. So a good choice.

Just have to out play them and stay on target. I run full cleric’s build with weapons (GS, Sword, Focus) unless they catch me with my zerg warfare gear of Staff/Sword/Shield.

Hardest part for me is keeping track of the original for whatever reason so I lose a lot of time dealing with that and, well, back pedaling as my kids say I know, I should really ground for talking kitten to their dad. Anyway, point is you stay on top of the mesmer and put resure. I use sword and focus mainly and when I get them low or after their big heal I’ll get distance then swap to sword/focus to teleport, damage, then swap to GS, F1, 3, 2 and see what that does. it is always a dance of keeping distance then leaping to them and try and burst.

Good ones or better players I’ll typically lose. Others I’ll either kill them, stall for help, or both of us will get tired and /bow and leave each other alone

I played a Asura Elementalist all throughout beta’s. I had a blast and found the little fella’s to be so much fun.

Early head start and launch. I rolled a Human Guardian.

Never played one before nor had any interest. However, something upon that initial login made me do it. No, it wasn’t Elvis telling me what to do but something made me click the race and class. I’ve honestly never thought twice about it and I still play today.

Last night was doing some WvWvW out in the eternal battleground. We had a diversion going on whereas a group of us are fighting around Langor and got pushed back to the supply camp. They had a mass of people between the enterence of the supply camp backing up to the bridge before the tower. Someone said we need to push forward and no one listened. I said to heck with this, swapped to staff/mace/shield and charged.

AOE staff, speed, line of warding, wall of reflection, orbs ablaze and then enemy said WTF and turned and burned. I made it mid way through the bridge and did a few shouts to those crazy enough to follow. I swapped to shield, queued up #3 mace, #2 mace, then shield #5 and people flew off the bridge like lemmings off a cliff. After the shock and awe of my crazy charge they enemy regrouped back at their tower, built some siege, and started to charge back. I turned and burned it back, getting a key warding planted that they couldn’t cross allowing me to get away back to friends.

Our force countered and a few other guardians caught on and before you know it we pushed them back to Langor and finally took it. It was tough though and a fight that went back and forth. Badges and loot bags fell out of the sky like skittles I tell you.

However, I could have never done that on a elementalist. I had a metric ton of fun and felt I actually played a key role. Has crazy has it sounds the class, any class for that matter, is only has fun as the person behind the keyboard in the end. Play what you will but play if you have the time.

GW2 is a fun game regardless of its quirks.

JustCurious.3457:

, Cleric everything with Mace & shield / Hammer or Staff. Very tanky but you won’t be killing anything anytime soon :P.

I just want to second, and third, and any order of magnitude number too because this is so true. Honestly Cleric’s gear with any weapon allows you to do some pretty crazy things in relationship to supporting a small or large group of players. Run in line of warding, shield bubble and push back, wall of reflection. I mean the list goes on and on what you can do using the build.

However, like it has been said good luck trying to kill anything. One reason why I’m looking for different builds without breaking the bank for new gear I have a full set of knights and cleric’s. Various weapons and only exotic accessories. I like sword/shield, mace/shield, sword/focus, staff, and greatsword.

I find in solo roaming WvW what typically happens against equally skilled players is that we both yield, party up, talk a bit, then go our own ways. When I face lessor skilled players I will eventually win. Against skilled players I’ll end up making a mistake and die or just get out played. End result is death.

I like GW2’s system. Not sure I fully understand it yet but there are options never the less.

Cavendish.2168:

Im really not a good player and couldnt win a 1v1 to save my life, but with a staff I can follow my commander straight into an enemy zerg tagging everything with auto attack and come out the other side. I stay alive way longer than I should thanks to the staff. This is my testimonial.

Lol. Well said.

However, “not a good” player is very subjective. I’m sure you are a swell player but using the staff allows a wee bit more room for error. Well, at least I think so. It is a very good weapon for WvW zerg warfare.

All guardians should carry at least one. Just too many situations whereas they come in handy to ignore. Speed and travel, AOE, keep defense, CC, etc.

Is it possible to find a 17k health pool, 45% crit, 95% crit damage, and 2800 to 2900 armor/attack using only exotics?

I’m bouncing between 16k health, 2700 armor, 2980 attack, 45% crit and 91% crit damage. Trying to bump up armor a bit and crit damage yet maintain the health pool and it is pretty challenging. That is without breaking the bank. Ideally I’d like tor un this without food

Thanks for the update Brutaly. Some interesting builds.

I’m still trying to figure out what my optimal build is with my limited armor and time I like build 1 it seems because that is how I typically play and the main reason why I don’t play a caster I always run in first regardless of the numbers I’m facing. Trying to push people back or off high ledges with shields, etc.

However, the problem I’m facing is that more often than not I’m solo roaming or small group of 2 and I can’t kill anyone. The attacker soon figures this out and focus on my partner, kill them, then leave shortly after when they can’t kill me. Thus is the bane of Cleric’s gear and healing builds.

Anyway, thanks for putting in the time to the thread and gear list. I am starting to really hate the whole idea of Ascended gear all over again. Hopefully this week they will give the WvW crowd some options because it is really starting to look like I’m going to have to PvE / Fractal in order to get them in a timely manor Laurels should be used for necks though, correct (first that is I mean?).

Kharel Arhew.1437:

I ran this build long before ascended gear became available. I just did it with straight ’zerker trinkets and straight PVT armor/weaponry, and ignored healing power entirely aside from the 300 from traits. Ascended has certainly tweaked how I play somewhat, but I met with just as much success using this build before ascended gear was introduced.

I know, I didn’t mean in any way that it you a better player. It was honestly nothing more than a off handed comment regarding ascended gear in every build on the forums now. More so a dig at the player base who said don’t worry about the gear it doesn’t change anything but it does.

It isn’t a big deal because in the next few weeks we will be hearing about the WvW of it. Which many of us can’t wait because some, maybe not many, can’t stand the PvE aspect of these games.

I use all of the weapons that we can use. Why? I don’t know, because we can and I’m a pack rat I guess /boggle.

Shield – because I like to run on into the zergs and use skill 5 to push them back. The wise players know about stability. The fools that don’t, well, end up falling over the sides of bridges, over walls, and other nasty high places.

Hammer – because I love skill 4 / Banish. As with shield I find myself giggling like a school girl when I land a successful banish. Off the unaware go to their deaths.

Normally I’m running greatsword, sword, and focus. Because that is what my build is about. I’ll also swap in mace/shield. I’m in clerics gear with according traits. No ascended gear but all exotic. Also all I do pretty much is WvWvW / solo or small groups.

And to those who say “ascended” gear isn’t making or breaking builds… /rollseyes

And to those who say “ascended” gear isn’t making or breaking builds… /rollseyes

I have the whole set.

Have to say it looks better on the female but that is just me (I roll male). Anyway, my issue with the armor are the gloves. The way the armor is displayed, rendered, or whatever makes the end resulting hand TINY!!!!

It looks super odd. That and the male chest looks like he is wearing a keg

So looking at this again and using in to the mists calc / builder not sure how close I’ve come to your stats. I’m only using exotics though so maybe that is it.

Primary stats:
Health 15,365
Armor 2724
Attack 3017
Critical hit 47%
Vitality 1372
Toughness 1513
Power 1917
Precision 1824

Secondary stats:
Boon duration 5%
Condition damage 110
Critical damage 97%
Damage 1100
Defense 1211
Healing power 640 (I’m currently using clerics and close to 1500)

Food and utility are the cookies and maint. oil. Armor is what you recommended although maybe I have the wrong boot/feet (invaders chainmail – I don’t see soldiers). Divinity runes (wow – those cost some gold). Accessories are zerks ammy, cavalier’s back, zerk rings, cavalier’s earings. All are using the exquisite ruby jewels.

I guess I have some wiggle room with accessories I’d wager. I have all the weapons but added GS, sword, and torch. Sigil of superior life, fire, and force.

Did I miss something or mess up on selecting accessories?

Edit 1: type on attack. Was 2017 should be 3017

First video I think @ 5:15 or so. Love your /team message Kicking butt and chewing gum yet you find time to type in there to get them engaged. Classic

Anyway fun to watch. One thing that keeps me coming back to the guardian is the “at all cost” aspect of play. Sometimes a single guardian can turn the tide of a fight. One minute it is lost yet the next second a simple charge clears the way for the rest to follow.

Couple question regarding the build. Is this still following the 0/5/30/30/5 format?

I see GS/Hammer – and a mention of Sword/Torch. If sword/torch are those zerker also? Actually, I think I found the answer to that (need to read more ) You are using one zerker and the other valkyrie with fire on sword and force on torch. Does it matter which is zerker and which is valkyrie in regards to weapon?

Accessories. I have zero ascended gear but sitting on 60 laurels. Currently I have all sapphire orichalcum cleric’s so would need to replace these with other exotics. Which exotic set would work and with what jewels?

I have a full set of knights gear so those pieces are ok. Valkyrie, soldier, and berserker will need to be picked up which are fine using badges now I guess. It looks fun to try but I don’t think it would work if you don’t have has close of gear to match stat wise.

So would this be viable with exotic gear only?

Ok, thanks. I wasn’t sure so figured I would ask. Thank you Jax and Akamon.

I do not really play much in regards to tPvP and only get my fix in WvW (for whatever reason). I saw roam, which is what I typically do either solo or duo so wanted to see if it would maybe work.

I’m trying to find a new middle of the road build and gear set to try. I’m currently in all clerics including accessories and weapon sets using the former 0/10/30/30/0 build. However, I want to incorporate more mace and shield and not having much luck. I am finding it more and more difficult to survive for some reason say when I compare it to great sword, sword and focus weapon sets.

Staff, scepter, and shield are still my mainstay in groups but I find myself usually in smaller settings and just trying to mix it up. When I look at what I enjoy oddly enough it is outlasting the attacker until one of two things happen.

1. my side arrives and kills them. Or
2. they figure out they can’t kill me and I can’t kill them so they leave

Although I would like to be able to output some damage I value duration over burst