Guild Wars 2

I wouldn’t say grumpy, that isn’t really fair. Speaking my own opinion it really depends on the play style has to why you play GW2 to begin with. If it is for PvP or WvW then yeah, it looks like it is the dour hour indeed and time to move on. If it is either of the two plus PvE then you are set for a while longer and GW2 is the Bee’s Knee’s.

Coming at it only from a WvW point of view, which is all I really care about, it is dead for the most part. I’ve played it since head start and saw a huge potential. Patch after patch it just never took off. I can’t speak what the overall GW2 population is that makes up WvW players, but there really is no reason to play it outside of fun. And there is only so much fun you can have over time before you get bored.

1. No source of leaderboard represents single, solo, or small group play
2. No captures, held, siege used, kills by player, by class, by guild, etc
3. New map is a start but solo/group focus due to decay time means you get no bags/loot
4. Zergs rule for the most part
5. Ladder match up doesn’t make sense see #4 above
6. Claiming keeps don’t yield anything, no warning from guards, no bonus exp or cash or magic find for guild claiming
7. Jump puzzle inside is wasted, removed siege placement, no extra exp, loot, crafting mats for locking others out, can’t farm animals/creatures/mats

There are just a few issues. I won’t even go into the guardian issues because one can almost ignore that and still see the fundamental flaw in WvW. No real incentive to do it. PvE has received all the love and we have none.

The only good news in closing is that you can step away, pay no monthly fee, and come back whenever you want. Just hope that Arena Net doesn’t add another tier of gear to grind like they did with Ascended Armor they say is due out in 2014….

Problem is I’d wager a lot of people don’t want to spend time purchasing different sets of armor. It is bad enough with weapon sets and now getting worse with ascended. Pretty soon we will be spending more time playing hide and seek farming items to build sets and no time to actually play the game

I think they need to draw a line and say PvP/WvW is equal, no PvE gear. Leave this gear here discussed and anything ascended for PvE only…. I don’t even know how to begin to craft Celestial gear let alone Ascended weapons and I’ve played since head start

It was an attention getter, don’t try to deny it. My mamma said to me if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it kitten well is a duck.

Anyway, you get kudo’s and a gold star for taking the time and effort. Honest, you do. However, I’m taking the gold star back because you keep thinking he/she is top. Take a step back and look at how many play the game, then are guardians, then stream or post. Now, look at the current leader board system and its decay. Also consider how many started to play, then left. Heck, factor in Americas vs. EMEA.

Yes, I like to kick the bee’s nest But hey, I gave you kudo’s and a star. Wait, I took that star back, didn’t I?

Amins.3710:

Christos de Soufre.3802:

What’s PvE? Can I eat it?

I think the quagg’s used to drop it. So it’s a really rare item now that they’ve moved on.

RNG. Probably drops has frequent has precursors

Amins.3710:

~Shouts right?!~ Good. Sit ubu sit, good dog.

A good reference btw.

Writetyper.1985:

This thread: 10% discussion on the topic at hand, 90% defining “best”.

Never change, official forums.

Go read the other class forums then come back and post. We have probably one of the best forums for class discussions out of the lot. I think nit picking on a title or verb is ok…

What, Kitten? It is a small animal, with fur, four legs. Baby which turns into a cat that some people fancy and others hate. They are trying to take over the world and have it in for dogs…

Oh, Kitten. Arena Nets general word to replace bad word.

Oh, sorry. grind for the dragon. Dragon or champions probably is what he means for loot bags or a chance of ascended weapons.

Ezrael.6859:

ITT a sub-par WvW Guardian that relies on gear discrepancy whines about the thread title.

Probably should check that comment because there are several players here, who posted, which don’t mention gear discrepancy, whine, and provided feed back. Go figure. Oh, I’ll up you one. They actually provide input to the community via builds, videos, and active participation in various threads.

I think most people are over the title now believe it or not since the feedback was accepted, thought about, and people have since moved on. Well, except maybe you?

But hey, let us beat the dead horse and keep it on the front page so it isn’t forgotten!!!!

Welcome to the hybrid tax….health pools are always skewed for classes that can play both offensive and defense.

It is additive. Back, neck, rings, ear rings, and now weapons. 2014 brings armor. Get the picture now?

Looks, that is another story. Dress up Barbie is how the game was originally sold. Since it is dress up and grind (Barbie must be having a great time )

My post here was actually just frustration over the possibility of making all the weapons you actively use. Has some pointed out, which I sort of overlooked, is that do your primary first, others it isn’t important and exotics work just as well provided you have the rest of the slots fitted.

I don’t want to get into the whole league discussion and how the servers stack up. In my mind if you enjoy the game then you enjoy the good and bad that comes with it. Change alone isn’t the reason to leave or hold a protest.

For me the issue that I am struggling with is how does a single or solo player show any sign of contribution? Furthermore, how does the leaderboard reflect this individuals assistance? It doesn’t. The reward for single/solo or small tactical group play in the new area isn’t felt or shown outside the buff.

I’d like to see the leaderboards updated to reflect kills, time holding capture points, defending, supply used, stomps, etc. Something that shows the weekly top 25, top monthly, by class, by server, by guild, etc. That way I don’t need to worry about gear or anything else because it will work itself out.

That is about it for me. I really with the leaderboards had more oomph. The new WvW content, I’m ok with and it fits my playstyle. Just missing personal satisfaction or rewards I guess.

Draygo.9473:

Alternate suggestion: Hold your own BL’s buff and refuse to take enemy BL’s buff

A bit harder to organize but at least I can enjoy my wvw.

I do agree that you can hold your own BL’s but let me add a bit of salt to the wound here Let me say that “a” player only engages in the WvW aspect of the game “and” said player has a limited time window. Ok? So they don’t do much else such has champion farming or any other form of dungeon crawl. They only want to engage in WvW because that is what they find fun.

Ok, so it is set. Now let us do what you suggest (which I agree with by the way) and focus on our own BL and capture, defend, and roam the points of interest in the new zone. What do you think said player would get by doing this?

1. No leaderboard representation for solo contributors, kill streaks, deaths, finishers, monthly, weekly, daily, etc. Nothing shows.
2. No loot. Remember, player doesn’t do anything but WvW within a set time limit, by choice.
3. Small tactical team would work, roaming, or even solo, but there is no reward (see 1 above and below note).

So, no single player contribution in leaderboards, nothing to show, and only loot is off players you stomp. If you don’t run dungeons, and you don’t PvE outside of leveling, you really have no way to get past the exotics over time (can use badges to some degree). So now you are roaming, single or small group, and have to deal with stat creep via ascended gear AND you don’t get any loot. Why do I bring this up? Because if the same player spent the same amount of time capturing supply camps, towers, and keeps (even castles) they would get loot bags and boxes on top of everything else.

Point is – while fun, playing the circle game for the buff isn’t going to return much on that time investment compared to spending equal amount elsewhere. That, my fellow GW2 players, is what frustrates me. Just how big that player base is may be small, I really have no idea.

Amins, I think it is only going to get worse. In fact, I was thinking of this tonight when I attempted to play a bit. Let me try and put it into perspective I guess.

1. Why

Let me say that this is the reason why I chose to play GW2. I don’t care for PvE and I don’t care much for battle grounds. I come from DaOC which has a mode called Realm vs. Realm. GW2 attempted to copy the format but failed on the leader boards. Case in point is my question above, why.

2. Why not? Simple answer is that there is nothing to gain by playing the new improved format released today. Sorry to say, but the baby is ugly. Solo roamer? You get nothing for controlling the point. You get nothing for defending the point. Duo team? Same thing applies. Nothing for defending or taking or controlling points on the map (NOTE: I know you get the buff but work with me here).

You are better off in sense of rewards to run in a zerg and capture towers, keeps, and other things on the map. You get badges, bags, and loot when killing NPC’s and taking stuff. Controlling points nets nothing outside what you get for downing people.

Leaderboards do not show anything for solo contribution. They don’t have any form of leaderboard that says how long you held, how many you killed, killing streak, weekly kills, by class, by guild, supply used, etc. Nothing.

Outside the kill – buzz there is no reason to do it. And the buzz will only last so long which thus raised my first question “WHY”.

If people didn’t like it they wouldn’t login and play. Plain and simple.

But all the chatter within the forums is only a small percentage point anyway I think the idea, while grand, is moot. People will continue to play until they can’t take it anymore, get bored, or something new comes around. Nothing new is due out anytime soon, so if you like the format of WvW then this is it. No matter how bad it is, it is the only game in town.

So…let’s put some lipstick on the pig and do the right thing, huh? Staging a protest isn’t going to work. They know, they read the forums, they are going to do what they want…besides, what company do you know admitted to something that they did was bad and correct it? I can’t think of one MMO that did (even if they went free to play mind you!).

x per fection x.2096:

But.. we do have Camelot Unchained to look forward to.

Don’t hold your breath. Has much has I liked the retail version of the game, and even frontiers, they utterly destroyed WarHammer. Some of the retail developers have assisted some of the more recently failed MMO’s for which I won’t mention names.

Alexei.4698:

Amins.3710:

This cold fact hit very hard after the leaked patch and I haven’t log’d onto my Guard since.

It hit me when I realized that I was looking forward to the introduction of the Back-to-School Uniform town clothes more than I was the Guardian changes.

Lol. This actually made me giggle.

Amins.3710:

This is a PvE game.

It is not an eSport Game.

It is not a PvP Game.

It is not a WvW Game.

The above mentioned “Modes” are just mini-games within the World of PvE.

Once you accept this, things become much brighter because you stop logging on and buying Gems. =]

This cold fact hit very hard after the leaked patch and I haven’t log’d onto my Guard since.

Yeah, I have a feeling you are correct. In fact, I saw you on your Mesmer I think last night. You Traitor! Just kidding. I am, really.

Part of what had me thinking was the new map and the necessity to control the new points. Wondering if this would change the play style at all for some of the heavier support classes out in WvW due to the requirement of decay. Or, if larger servers will just wise up and have one large zerg with smaller subsets doing a ring around the rose deal to keep them current.

Either way still a wee bit frustrated over the whole mess.

Amins.3710:

No where in this quote does it say we are fundamentally a support class.

While I agree with you the bottom line is they threw out the manifesto back when they let Ascended gear slip. The so called manifest was nothing more than snake oil and marketing to get the fringe players who wanted to “open world pvp”.

Static gear @ level 80 (e.g. exotic) being flat meant there was a one time buy in and you are set. Has we can all see now that isn’t the case. I don’t expect them to treat class arch type any differently.

Yaki.9563:

Off-hands are almost unnecessary as the stat difference is very small and there is no weapon damage contribution.

Personally I’m not crafting any. I enjoy the randomness of finding weapon drops and they aren’t especially rare (not like precursors).

Do they drop from WvW? Because that is about all I do. I’ve tried to do fractals but I just couldn’t stomach it They honestly look nice but I just don’t have the time to dedicate to PvE dungeon runs. I don’t mean that in any negative way I just mean I honestly don’t want to spend a couple hours in them.

I’m guessing from the tower captures and those chests maybe?

Pretty much. I mean yes, I agree. I should be finding the positives and not the negatives. I apologize. However, it is frustrating, to me, based on how I play the game with my time investment.

If I added in some PvE into the mix maybe it would not be has bad I’d wager. But yeah, was doing some math to craft (my fault I’ve not mastered any (starting from zero)) then mats, et all, and was like this isn’t fun – lol.

Oh well, I do know I’m not in the boat alone I guess kitten , I’m a Debbie Downer. Sorry.

Luvpie.8350:

Ricardo.5489:

well… eb in tier 2 would keep geting 3rd place anyway… and loose every single match up.. u’d just get more winners… not make them more competitive

IF EB is going to lose every match in League 2 in this scenario you are also going to lose every match in Anet’s current League 1 but not just lose, get demolished. Atleast with League 2 that I reference above you will have decent fights.

EB does very well for what it has. However, that match-up, if correct, would yield a lot of frustrated long term players I’d argue. Probably many who would just stop playing. No one, regardless of what server, would login only to hit their head against a wall. It just isn’t fun.

Straegen.2938:

Ultimately transfers are going to happen league or not. I would also add transfers are a good thing as it keeps the tiers fresh.

I highly doubt that. What makes tiers fresh are incentives to play.

In regards to the WvW aspect of the game numbers matter. Those who have raise to the top, those that don’t fall to the bottom. Don’t believe it, look at the servers that are top tier. Then look at their numbers. Then look at their time zone coverage.

I’ll let those numbers talk.

spiritus.7983:

And yea they dont give a crap about anyone else except spvp, rest of us are potentional gems buyer, plus I just read another post where a dev said forum posters are a verry insignifient portion of player base, meaning kitten. So lets suffer in silence for another few months and everyone thank anet every day for it

This is par for the course since most games “official” forums are a minority. For everyone who posts there are ten fold who don’t. Go figure.

I will only say that this idea is a dumb one and it will put the final nail in the coffin for this aspect of play. My opinion is that is what they want anyway much like what was seen with SWtOR and Illum. This way they don’t have to spend what little resources they do on it and move them elsewhere (or even let go). It isn’t anything that we didn’t already know too because look at the content over the years vs. WvW.

The leader boards are a joke
JP’s are broke, removed siege, lackluster rewards
No risk, no reward for doing anything out there
No way to identify single contributors in leader board or map
No gain to claim keeps, towers, or camps
No warning if guild claims keeps, towers, or camps (guards are stupid)
WvWvW does not offer any incentives that PvE does
Stat creep in full effect single/duo/small tactical teams
Zergs rule
Condition damage overload
Skill lag

List goes on and on why WvW is in a downward spiral regardless of what server you play on. Heck, I’m on EB since pre-launch and beta’s. I don’t care about our numbers week after week vs. the zerg or number servers. But the rest of the list is slowly giving me more free time daily to do other things outside of GW2.

If, and I do mean “IF” you play GW2 for the WvW aspect of it, you probably won’t be for much longer. Which means if you then like S/T PvP or PvE then you will probably still login. However, for me (.001 %) the game is slowly fading away and the league isn’t going to do one darn thing to change it.

Train meet wreck.

I know I am not the only Guardian with this issue but Arena Net, what the hell; over!

I carry, and use daily, every weapon we can use. Did it ever enter your mind that some classes may have a wee bit more difficult time at this than others? Silly design.

Arena Net should not have allowed character transfers to begin with. Guesting for PvE is perfectly fine and appears to be working. PvP though, that was just a bone headed mistake and now everyone sees what is happening across all servers. Americas and EMEA.

Once this was announced people already started to move to the higher rated servers for the rewards. Plain and simple.

It’s broke Jim!

Seriously, there really isn’t anything that makes a whole of sense in regards to the WvWvW play in GW2. Honestly, I think it was a afterthought and an attention getter if truth be told. They know there is this small fringe of people who played DaOC it its prime and care for open world PvP. For those of you who did play even after the PvE addition of Atlantis can see what they tried to do in WvW.

1. Keeps, towers, and Orbs – added, then removed.
2. Jump puzzle != Darkness Falls. There is no boss, there is no risk, and the reward? They removed siege and made it an instance. Zero reason to go in now and no one does. 99% of the time it is empty except for a few who want a quick and easy JP.
3. Leader boards but nothing to show for individual contributing. No daily supplies used, towers captures, number of kills, guilds, alliances, etc. There is nothing that shows anyone anything that a person, or guild did. They are, for the most part, useless.

They should treat WvW like they do T/S PvP and lock gear, problem solved. WvW should yield bonus though for playing such as faster exp, more crafting materials, more money, and equal or greater rewards compared to PvE. Everything should tie around a guild controlling a tower, keep, or castle. Guards should actually make an announcement to online guild members it is being attacked in /g. Kill mobs near x radius means more of everything because you are near a point YOU control.

This league deal, forget it. Won’t change the fact that there is no incentive at the end of the day to WvW. And…to stay on topic, stat creep kills the current solo or small group PvP aspect of WvW. Most know it is smarter to run in a zerg and condition damage flying around makes it utterly stupid.

This aspect of the game is dead or will be shortly. Only thing to be honest in keeping it alive is those who actually care for that type of game play. But we all know kitten well after being ignored for a year it is time to move on.

For me the deal breaker is engagement reason. Right now it is nothing more than a endless bait ball love fest. There is some in-game GvG and to some degree 1v1 but there is no reward system in place (better leader boards for example) for the solo or small roaming party of 5. It is like a tree falling in a forest. No one hears it let alone anyone cares except the homeless owl

I get and understand the pigeon hole of our class but man PvE has received all of the love including ascended weapons. If one is only playing this game for WvW then yeah, it is get up and go time I’d wager.

Also note this was pointed out:

•We’re also looking to make conditions scale better in PvE/WvW leveling so that they’re more viable at different junctures in the level scale.

CMF.5461:

Good change yes, but not sold on if it is a revolutionary change yet. Will see when it happens if we are taken to a new place on capabilities or not.

I just feel like we ask for one thing and are given something completely different. So there is a seeming disconnect with the devs and us players. Maybe they know better than us? Maybe not.

Players or player is the question. Not sure if it matters let alone how many play the guardian but one thing is for sure, how many are active within the “official” forums remain to be seen. So when so called developers listen to anyone outside their team is it even a voice or opinion we want heard?

I’m not saying listen to me or anyone for that matter but it does seem like there is a huge disconnect here. Both in regards to classes and WvW / PvP game play. In fact, so much that it seems to be a breaking point for the game and all that will be left are the bi-weekly content loving PVE crowd.

Vayne.8563:

Crapgame.6519:

Someone said:

Let’s pretent that the 400k concurrency number is from launch…well so what? Are you saying you can name an MMO where the bulk of the population doesn’t play less over time? Do you think ANY MMO has more people a year after launch than on launch day concurrently?

I’m not going to get into the middle of this cat fight but actually if you would recall, Warcraft actually gained subscribers (paying mind you) over the years. It increased year over year and only after cata and the 10 million mark has it subsided. Most would consider its current population of 6 million a success yet here we are talking about 400K active maybe at best and 3.5 million copies sold.

Look, not going to pee in the wind here but I do find it rather interesting that people ask “do you still play that game” (e.g. GW2). I really don’t know how it fits in the public space but for me, it is only really WvW that I care about and it is pretty much dead in regards to return on investment (playing time mind you).

Anyway – Figured I’d throw that out that at least one MMO grew. The others while good failed because they tried to measure success like the two ton heavy thing…

Actually, you’re right WoW did grow. But at the 1 year mark where we are now, it had less sales than Guild Wars 2 does now and it didn’t grow by that point to it’s high point. So how do you know what Guild Wars 2 will do in the same time period. If Guild Wars 2 has two or three years of updates, how do you know it won’t grow?

More to the point, Eve, also considered a successful MMORPG just managed it hit 500,000 subscribers…I think it was last year.

The fact that WoW was mega succesful at a time when there was virtually no competition and made a name for itself means what exactly?

I don’t think it means anything other than it grew over time and like a bell curve is now falling off. And there was competition for what it is worth. Both EQ and DaOC has thousands of users online.

Eve, I don’t know what to say about that game other than it is a persistent world that is growing and probably will continue now since they managed to co-op with the PS3. It also has a very steep learning curve and I’d wager a more mature player base.

But back to your point it may mean nothing in the end. Like I pointed out earlier I was just passing through, saw the comment about growth, and added something (which you already knew probably )

I’ll return you back to the original debate

Someone said:

Let’s pretent that the 400k concurrency number is from launch…well so what? Are you saying you can name an MMO where the bulk of the population doesn’t play less over time? Do you think ANY MMO has more people a year after launch than on launch day concurrently?

I’m not going to get into the middle of this cat fight but actually if you would recall, Warcraft actually gained subscribers (paying mind you) over the years. It increased year over year and only after cata and the 10 million mark has it subsided. Most would consider its current population of 6 million a success yet here we are talking about 400K active maybe at best and 3.5 million copies sold.

Look, not going to pee in the wind here but I do find it rather interesting that people ask “do you still play that game” (e.g. GW2). I really don’t know how it fits in the public space but for me, it is only really WvW that I care about and it is pretty much dead in regards to return on investment (playing time mind you).

Anyway – Figured I’d throw that out that at least one MMO grew. The others while good failed because they tried to measure success like the two ton heavy thing…

MikaHR.1978:

Crapgame.6519:

Grind? Aion is a grind or any other Asia Pac designed or developed game.

In GW2 it is merely an INCONVENIENCE…

Oooh, but theyre not even close to done yet. These are JUST weapons, they still have armors/runes/sigils/infusions(14/set).

Yeah, you are probably correct.

Grind? Aion is a grind or any other Asia Pac designed or developed game.

In GW2 it is merely an INCONVENIENCE…

Chuckdatass.6312:

Crapgame.6519:

Actually – general question. The last leaked notes didn’t they turn out to be pretty much accurate of what came out?

Yes they did, with only minor differences/additions.

Ok, that is what I thought. Now a bit worried about I guess

Actually – general question. The last leaked notes didn’t they turn out to be pretty much accurate of what came out?

Guardian specific if anyone can’t follow the link

Symbol of Judgement: Added revive percent, pulse, and number of targets skill facts.
Symbol of Faith: Removed the range fact.
Zealot’s Speed: The Symbol of Wrath created by this trait will now have a 180 base radius and 240 radius when traited with Write of Exaltation to be consistent with other symbols.
Perfect Inscriptions: This trait now increases the effectiveness of the condition removal passive on Signet of Resolve.
Protector’s Strike: Updated the damage skill fact to more accurately display the correct amount.
Healing Breeze: Doubled the base heal when healing allies. Increased the healing scaling from 20% to 40% when healing allies.

May be time to find another game although I’m not sure what is coming out that could fulfill the WvWvW type play. At least for the next couple of years until DaOC 2 comes out (if ever). I swear any game that includes both PvP and PvE just never seem to be balanced. Never.

And if so, it is always one class that appears to be the “most” balanced while all the others swing like a pendulum going between over powered to under.

Amins.3710:

HUTBALL lol

I actually didn’t think hutball was that bad – lol.

Super Fun Times….SUPER FUN TIMES…

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I think one of the issues is their so called leader boards. They really are a joke. Oddly enough a game dating back to 2001 had better leader boards and weekly stats. By class, guild, alliance, etc. For some reason they are perfectly content with what they display

I guess my point is esport or not, this game doesn’t allow any bragging rights for teams let alone a solo or casual player. No matter how many yaks you kill or camps you flip, or even total number of kills no one knows but you. Oh, and don’t get me started on the number of badges we all have queued up in our banks even after blowing them to gear up our alts…

Coldin.2840:

If anything, WvW players should be more upset that taking camps and towers don’t give more ingredients for the effort.

Most are already upset but gave up a long time ago. It is perfectly clear that the development team has a main focus on PvE rewards and content rather than PvP or WvWvW. This is in retrospect to armor and weapon textures of course and percentage of ways to obtain items.

Maybe I missed it but I don’t really see any so called gate here. People already have ascended weapons. Same holds true with regards to people crafting them. 2 weeks my rear, several guild members are already sporting them with a few having crafted them.

So again, where is the gate here? Time in equals reward…

The problem with staff 4 is actually Time and lack of mobility…

I guess it depends on the game style between PvP/WvW and PvE. In WvW you don’t always have time to stop, drop 4, and then engage. Any enemy is going to take that pause you just did for your might and lay a serious molly whopping on you. I mean you just gave them a head start…

Zergs I find it rather funny because you see the bait ball moving and all of a sudden it stops. Again, people buff up, move out, and maybe attack. One of the two bait balls is going to come out on top but usually ends up in a train wreck…

Buffs in this game are a bit weird in my mind. Better than say the DaOC days whereas we all had buff bots at the keeps to reapply after death. WoW they went from 5 minutes to 30 and beyond. Not sure what the right answer is but while I use a staff for various things the whole #4 thing is situational I find but that is just my opinion.

maol.1326:

to Crapgame : Cause my english is not really good (sorry for my mystakes writting)

Ah, got it. This is the internet and a forum. If anyone complains about how you or anyone else writes has some serious issues.

maol.1326:

Hi , i am a french Guardian support Healer playing in WvW

Shouldn’t you trait for swiftness then?

Just kidding. Question though, why on earth would you bring up your nationality?

Amins my fellow server player but I always see you alive! I’m serious here though. It is frustrating but kitten I see dead people, and dead myself, and just watch you and a few others in your guild stomp people…

Sword is also a gap closer.

Trust me, P.E.T.A is all up in arms because the never ending mindless slaughter of innocent white bunny rabbits, raccoons, and owls that die daily due to sword number 2. Sad sad sad day. Yes, it is.

Maybe I’m late to the party then because the way it typically works when I roam:

1. I win
2. I die
3. I get destroyed
4. Draw – we party up, bs a bit, then go about our way, some times friend one another
5. I can’t stress this enough – I NEVER CHASE
5.a. they get away
6. I hold out until help arrives

For me the purpose of roaming is:
1. Challenge and fun
2. Time constraint – I have limited time and don’t want to find a party or zerg
3. No one is on within guild to roam with
4. Finishing up daily – I will hunt vet points, supply camps, and tackle yaks (P.E.T.A hates me!)

There have actually been a few times whereas all servers zergs are balled up and left me time to take a camp, drop a catapult along side a wall, run to camp 4 times for supply, build it, and actually knock out a wall when help finally comes to take tower. That to me is fun, and playing hide and seek from the zergs or duo’s out.

The only problem with this game is that there is really nothing to show for solo or single contribution. That my fellow guardian, is what irks me to no end…

CRrabbit.1284:

In fact I am looking for a real valid roaming build for guardian as well, but I didn’t find any.
The fact is — when I use my ranger/warrior to roam in WvW, the best target is guardian, smply becoz I will NEVER EVER die at least, and it’s truth that I was NEVER EVER killed by any guardian 1v1 in WvW.
Have to say (at least now): guardian is not for roaming in WvW.

Look at any of the builds here in this forum, there are several that support a roaming Guardian. There is no set built that will work for roaming, it really comes down to your comfort level. Honestly, it is that simple. Comfort.

I have three different builds I use. The go-to which is the healaway. Plain and simple it works. It works when I’m in a small group, pug, or even zerg. If I go solo, then I can handle my own against any, yes any, other class. It may be slow going or even a draw, but the fight is a equal one regardless and I have a chance to win.

Then there is my dps build which offers no support, very selfish, and weak in regards to the amount of damage “I” can sustain. When I’m out solo in this build it really is a matter of reaction time if truth be told. Why? Because I ignore everything for damage, has much as I can within gear and skill constraints, to take the other person out. Usually 2 v 1 isn’t going to come out with me on top. However, it will usually end up with one of the 2 going down…

Then there is the other build which is a hybrid of the two using AH and Hammer. It is based off another sticky up top using knights gear. It too works solo or zerg.

There you have it. 3 distinct builds for solo roaming that others have tested, debated, offered up, posted videos, etc. They work. Just how much is based on each of our own skills. Mine is so so.

Yours may be better so good luck.

Low yield tactical nuke would be nice. Something along the lines of a B-61. Call it the Zerg Buster. Animation could be like that of the Smugglers in SWtOR which calls in a air strike…

One can wish, yeah?

Amins.3710:

Crapgame.6519:

And then there is “Too High!!!” which is where I run at about 1490. I should be swapping some items around for a wee bit more DPS if truth be told.

Negitive…

2100 or go home!

Oh, kitten !

I will say when I’m running around you guys has a pug member you are usually the last one standing and also in the thick of things!

Question – is that all exotic, ascended, or just smart choices? I’m in clerics but exotic accessories. Then again I just assumed it was too much. Just goes to show how much I know!

Hunter.4783:

There is no such thing as a roaming guardian, any remotely competent thief, Mesmer and necro will wipe the floor with you and you will NOT be able to escape any zergs or even a 1v4 gankbang.

Why would you say this? Playing a thief, mesmer, or necro does not mean you will win every fight. That is just plain silly. Give the healing build a try and I think you would be amazed at what it can do solo to include fights being out numbered. I know I have and don’t see a issue with it. Heck, look at the post here and his videos…

Some classes do have a easier time getting away or playing solo such as a thief I’ll give you.

In short, unless you are happy solo clearing the 2 supply camps close to your BL waypoint, I would try a different class. Heck now even a warrior is much much better at roaming than a guard. You should stick to front lining in zergs tbh

I must be one of the few happy doing this. Here is how I look at it. Play what is fun. The more you play and the better the feel of the class you are playing, mix up the dps and survival gear to comfort level.

I’ll say this. There are people on this forum who I’d bet you 100g can play their guardian, solo, naked, and come out on top of a fight. Sometimes skill overcomes everything else. Please note I don’t put myself into this category.

Harbinger.8637:

Crapgame.6519:

Well that is easy Harbinger

Define best.

Best: Excelling all others.

Has Azshene shown this? Yes in some forms.

This is a game whereas over 3 million people play. It is pretty kitten hard to declare anyone person has being best. That is all we are trying to get the OP to see. It really isn’t easy when you have EMEA, America’s, and at some point Asia joining the fray. Furthermore, need we mention rating decay here?

True the title could have been worded better. Example; Interview with one of the top Guardians (Azshene), but I’m not going to throw some hissy fit over it.

See, we can agree…

At least the OP took the time other of their day to make a video and an interview. I don’t see anyone else here doing it. So don’t belittle him just because of personal ego trips.

Here you missed the boat I’m afraid because no one belittled him. Everyone already stated several times it is the way it was set up. Moving alone it would be wise to avoid the term “BEST” when there is no single way to measure it.

See the point there? The game in its current state does not allow best to be shown in any logical sense. It is just an opinion. Now, if this was DaOC or any other game with a quality leader board then I’d be 100% behind the OP because it can be measured.

Key word: MEASURE.

That’s all I’m going to say about this because I HATE trivial post and discussions like this.

Yeah, I need to move along because I for one (points at myself) have already kicked the bee’s nest and killed the horse two ways to Tuesday.