Too many people talking as if the ONLY thing were are contending with at the moment is a Condition Mesmer’s Stacks….
There’s more going on to attribute to the necessity of acting other than just walking away and waiting out the ticks. Not in a 1v1 per say but in larger groups Yes.
A mesmer’s confusion just makes getting out of anything hairy near impossible without killing yourself.
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I’ll even let you in on a secret. Lukian wanted to avoid ET side and knock HoD into third place as a kind of payback for all the trash talk that thrown from HoD players in the pre-SF-moveup days, but every time we’d be focusing on HoD, some cornball FoE or TFor/KWBH/TAC zerg would come out of nowhere into the green side while we were pushing and try to interfere in our battles or attempt to take advantage on HoD’s counterattacks again us to cap some of our towers. You wouldn’t lose overlook nearly as often if you would stop pestering Stonemist with trebs and drawing attention to it either. Teamspeak that night was full of Lukian exclaiming “GO HOME ET, YOU’RE DRUNK!” “RECLAIM YOUR OWN BORDER FIRST THEN COME HERE DUDES” every time you guys popped up during the most random times and senselessly went into attack mode.
One of the reasons I’m not as into WvW in ET right now.
Too many people want to be on the pain train running around in other territories. While I see great value in edging in and refusing FC and HoD points, I don’t think this is quite what we are doing.
We (ET) don’t upgrade/reinforce what we take, much less our own territory as has been stated. It’s not for lack of trying, but for the few people I see in chat asking for assistance dropping siege and upgrading, there are 4x as many removing valuable supplies from Garrisons/Keeps just to have on hand instead of stocking up at a camp. There are too many asking where is such and such commander in which land runing a zerg train. ( I am not completely against zerg trains as it gets the ultimate goal of taking territory done, but if you start off huge at least drop groups at each conquest to reinforce/upgrade, you’ll still have enough left in the zerg)
It does get frustrating to the point where you would rather join up with the rest of your server rather than get slaughtered undermanned in your paper tower.
Don’t get me wrong, we have some great commanders, but what we need are more great commanders who will be content to secure our own while the vet commanders are out colonizing your territories. (or maybe we need more non commanders who are willing to follow the people who are trying to make a difference in our territory)
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The bad thing about “map rotation” is that the way they are currently set up, green is put into a harder spot to defend, while red it given the easier ones. Look at EB, Red keep can treb at least 2 towers AND Stonemist from a relatively safe spot. What if GoM was “red” this week, not only do they have more people but they can put constant pressure on Stonemist if ET/FC held it, not to mention they have shorter runs to and from supply camps from towers and SM. This is true for any tier.
I’m all for rotating the colors but if they do that, they have some other gameplay items to think about. You can’t give the green server, which is the best one in the current tier, all of the benefits of the worst server in the tier and expect people to be happy.
EDIT: Just look at how many times Overlook has been flipped and how many times Valley has been flipped this week. ET’s is nightly and I don’t know if Overlook has been flipped, maybe once?
With that in mind, maybe a re-evaluation of what color belongs to what placement needs to be redone.
If Green currently has some kind of advantage towards EB (I am not sure if this is perception or reality as I haven’t witnessed or researched it myself) then maybe it needs to be the 3rd place position to help give an edge towards moving to 2nd.
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The BL rotation and the gliko are 2 separate issues, I think they will be just using random colours each week, to give everyone a chance to do map completion.
They said they are looking at fixing the gliko system to stop servers getting stuck in mismatched tiers, but they have gone quiet about this.
While i like that people will have the opportunity to get map comp with a steady rotation, I think achieving the right to occupy a certain position on the map through weekly “domination” would give the wvw’rs a better sense of achievement.
If it was put as a weekly conquer reward when more of the PvE’rs who don’t normally wvw may put in a slight bit of effort if they felt they would be instantly rewarded at weeks end instead of sitting out and complaining on the forums how they’ll never get world comp done because their server will never attain that elusive 1/3 or more of the map.
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I would say more than a few ET seem to be on alts leveling instead of wvwing this week, same with FC. The numbers are alot less than they were 2 weeks ago, and that’s really the reason the score is where it is. Honestly, I know I’m having more fun (even on the weekends when we seem to be alittle more behind) in this tier with the people we’re playing against instead of some of the other matches we’ve had in the past. I know some people complain about the AGG “zerg ball” or whatever you want to call it, but it really just adds excitement about moving, and seeing if you can live through their crushing attacks every night. The only time life really sucks is when you realize everyone is dead around you, and on one side you have what at times on the weekend seems to be the million man march of ET pushing, and you turn to run smack into the other 70 FC zerg. That’s when you just accept your repair bill and laugh about not paying attention
Add me to that alt list :-)
Just finished my Guardian and am now farming to be able to craft the gear I want.
To be honest, after being in 2nd for so long and finally taking the lead that first week GoM came over, it was a little disheartening (not completely understanding how the BL shift rules were) to not move to green. IMO BLs should be rotated by who took the lead, 2nd and 3rd in any given week. That would be better incentive to push WvW (even though it is fun as hell by itself, it’s nice to see hard work pay off) each week instead of feeling like you are rolling that boulder up the hill only to have it reset at the bottom once you reached the top.
As far as Tier status goes..I could care less if were are T1, T5 or T113. A fights a fight no matter what tier you are on. But, please grant us a little immediate satisfaction with the rotation of the BLs by who has pulled their weight in any given week.
This isn’t the sole reason I have been out though. Mainly I have been focusing on getting together my Guard to help farm a lil money for things and gear up a little for a WvW defensive/support role.
Next week will have me adding another body back into WvW :-)
Oh and I realize the staff are working on a system for rotating BLs soon. :-) I hope they do it by weekly standings and not a Glicko variation. Leave Glicko for Tier ratings. (or maybe toss Glicko and take a monthly average of 1st and 3rd place per tier to see who moves up and down :-). Maybe 2 months average? )
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I’ve seen small groups repel many a happy fun ball from towers and keeps.
If you aren’t going to spend the resources to siege up what you own then the happy fun ball deserves to overrun it, leaving you bleeding and twitching on the floor.
Get on a voice chat, gather a group who will listen to commands, set up siege to repel.
It can be done, just don’t expect to turn away the ball with a group of casuals who
1) don’t play alongside each other often enough to work cohesively
2) won’t pay attention to, or follow the commands of the group commander
3) run away at the first sight of the happy fun ball rolling in
4) if you are defending a tower/keep, you HAVE to siege up. Siege is there to help against the enemy. They are valuable tools. They work. Siege operators have to communicate and work together. Focus fire together and work the mob down. Each AC or ballista firing at a separate section of the mob will just scratch the enemy and allow them to heal up and continue. Spam a section together, drop the enemy before they can get out of the focused area, shift fire and repeat.
Out in the open field..run and find a choke point. Get ACs (and Ballista if you are running with enough people for the supply) up and use em to good effect. If you can tear down a mob or even break it down to a manageable size, then the siege cost is worth it. An organized group of 10 can pop 3 ACs in almost an instant and do lots of damage in a choke point.
There are ways to deal with the Happy Fun Ball if we can just get organized.
what you say is great, but my point is not how to kill a “blob” but how to prevent blob-ing in the first place.
a reason for enemies to choose or be forced to be spread and require formations and lines and stuff… warhammer style
much more aesthetically pleasing, more relistic, more individual skill required, and more complex tactics.
ps: i repeat myself, but… collision detection. yup
Ahh, then IMO you limit the amount of WXP gained when within certain range of a set number of allied players.
The number one attraction to joining the Happy Fun Ball is the (since introduced) WXP gain that it promises.
I would say Number 2 is the safety in numbers while you can zerg your way from lvl 1 – 80
3 would have to be loot or people without direction stacking on the blue dorrito
4 reverse previous if it is of your opinion :-)
5 loot (although sitting behind a ballista or AC firing into a zerg ball is better loot)
I will say that I don’t count zerging SM as a bad thing as you pretty much need the numbers to break in and take over during peak hours :-)
Now I would NOT lower normal xp gained because who cares if people want a fast way to 80. That’s where the fun begins in WvW when you can get a lil gear and feel somewhat like you can hold your own.
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I’ve seen small groups repel many a happy fun ball from towers and keeps.
If you aren’t going to spend the resources to siege up what you own then the happy fun ball deserves to overrun it, leaving you bleeding and twitching on the floor.
Get on a voice chat, gather a group who will listen to commands, set up siege to repel.
It can be done, just don’t expect to turn away the ball with a group of casuals who
1) don’t play alongside each other often enough to work cohesively
2) won’t pay attention to, or follow the commands of the group commander
3) run away at the first sight of the happy fun ball rolling in
4) if you are defending a tower/keep, you HAVE to siege up. Siege is there to help against the enemy. They are valuable tools. They work. Siege operators have to communicate and work together. Focus fire together and work the mob down. Each AC or ballista firing at a separate section of the mob will just scratch the enemy and allow them to heal up and continue. Spam a section together, drop the enemy before they can get out of the focused area, shift fire and repeat.
Out in the open field..run and find a choke point. Get ACs (and Ballista if you are running with enough people for the supply) up and use em to good effect. If you can tear down a mob or even break it down to a manageable size, then the siege cost is worth it. An organized group of 10 can pop 3 ACs in almost an instant and do lots of damage in a choke point.
There are ways to deal with the Happy Fun Ball if we can just get organized.
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Green Blue Red should be the outcome of each weeks match, not Glicko.
It gives us something to strive for each week, not leaving us with a bad taste in out mouth for gaining nothing after a weeks worth of hard work.
Moving up and down in the ranks can remain the same.
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Want to lessen the WXP zerg train…reduce the amount of WXP gained when within range of allied players more than 10 strong.
If you are in a zerg train of 50+, WXP gained from player kills should drop drastically (% decrease per players beyond 10 in the train)
Objectives should also have decreased WXP gain when in enemy BLs and EB territory within large zergs. (no penalty should be taken for defending your homeland territory with however many you can muster up.)
Towers, Keeps and Castle would have a higher player cap and less of a WXP decrease as it should take more players to conquer vs a good defense.
Maybe more people who are after that WXP will look for smaller groups to roam with.
All I can come up with atm. have to get back to work.
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For those who don’t like being part of the “zerg”, have you even tried to get a small group to go hunting with you?
If the zerg is attacking one spot, it is more than likely that the majority of defenders are there trying to shut them down. A 5, 10, 15 man force can run around the map causing havoc with other points.
Camps are a great way to harass as without them the towers, keep, garrisons can’t get supplies to defend and repair.
Try this, PVE’rs usually have to spam or go to the GW2 dungeon group site to find people to run with. Nothing says you cannot do this to find like minded people on your server to find WvW groups to run with.
Know how much fun it is to set up mass siege in a Camp and have your enemy try to take it back? A few people with siege can hold a camp for a good time if you are coordinated.
Bottom line though, if you don’t like zerg balls, don’t join them. Put some effort into it and gather up a group of your own.
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
WvW, like Catista points out… is a GAME. It’s a week long competition to have the highest score. In between, it’s a bunch of smaller games to have the highest PPT while your group is active, and within that it is a series of skirmish games, generally over an objective (like a keep). Yes, it’s against other players, rather than NPCs (mostly). But, again as Catista points out, standing in a field slugging it out with your opponents is of ZERO VALUE to winning the game.
Actually, if you meet the enemy in the field and beat them down there, they are not doing damage to your gate or walls, therefore your Tower, Keep, Castle is in less risk of being taken.
Open field warfare has been a long used tactic, Battles from the walls of wherever you are trying to defend should always be a last defense.
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
All I want is for the ability to get decent exotics in a reasonable amount of time while playing WvW only. I really hate the idea of having to grind boring dungeons to be competitive; this is why neither of my 2 level 80 characters have anything more than exotic weapons (bought off the TP). The recent patch made a step in the right direction, but it still takes far more time to gear up in WvW than it does in PvE. I don’t see any logical reason why this should be the case.
Exotics are easy to get via WvW
I obtained all but my leggings for my Mes shortly after hitting lvl 80 which I saved up badges to get as they were the only piece I couldn’t get with the stats I was after through Karma.
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Yeah, but you can’t just removed the random unorganised zergs.. some people like to play WvW on and off and aren’t as experienced as some of us are, thus they wouldn’t be picked in any groups in this system.
I do like the idea but you can’t get rid of the global badge imo, it’s needed. It would still be a nice addition next to Commander badge for guilds to pick up, because you don’t want puggers to join your organised group and possibly screw up things..
What?…
You have the ability to close your warband, or kick people out of it. Have you even read the whole post, or understood its substance? The warband system is JUST as easy as the commander system.
This has been demonstrated in NUMEROUS games.. in fact… ALL of them except GW2.
And yet, here we are in GW2, the one without the warband system….
And you are HAPPY with the current state of WvW?
WvW is fine because I’m not comparing it to other games which are irrelevant here.
The commander tag does need some tweeks IMO, but the system doen’s need to be reworked into something else entirely.
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
I don’t mind fall damage being in the game, I would however like to see something added though.
If you fall from a height far enough to just kill you or kill you within a certain % of your points, I would like it if you could attempt to Dodge/Roll. If timed perfectly (I’m talking the kind of perfect it takes to get a Dodge to count towards your Daily vs a single attck) it could shave like ~5% or so from your fall damage.
It wouldn’t help you if the fall was so far that it could kill you twice, but if you had 23k health and the fall got you for 24, 150 health, a perfect dodge could leave you flat with a sliver of life.
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I’m not going to stop trebbing SM hours on end every time I’m out there – trying to get my fellow ferglings in the habit of doing it too. Get used to having the walls of SM always down. And I know we have the most perfectly annoying spot to drop trebs at Overlook that makes it a pita to kill them
Get used to looking at the walls of SM from the Outside… :-D
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Ferg, GoM EPIC T8 Brethren EPIC!!!!!!
Even if we were to have the bottom drop out and ET blew this week, that battle at SM with a 2 server attack would keep me in smiles for the next month!!!!!!
I can’t believe we held out in the end.
/Salute!!!!
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The really funny thing about GoM is that if we get riled up enough…we’re dangerous. Keep kicking the hornets nest. We’ll rebound. We’ll regroup. We’re having fun, learning things and adapting. I think this week has been a great lesson for us. If anything, it’s showed us that we need to get hungry again, start recruiting, adjusting our tactics and play past all of the nay sayers and trolls.
It’s all good. Turn your backs on poor, little GoM. We promise we’re not going to be a threat. Really…
Want a cookie?
Absolutely AWESOME attitude.
So glad to have ended up with decent folk to conquer :-D
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Yeah, but you can’t just removed the random unorganised zergs.. some people like to play WvW on and off and aren’t as experienced as some of us are, thus they wouldn’t be picked in any groups in this system.
I do like the idea but you can’t get rid of the global badge imo, it’s needed. It would still be a nice addition next to Commander badge for guilds to pick up, because you don’t want puggers to join your organised group and possibly screw up things..
What?…
You have the ability to close your warband, or kick people out of it. Have you even read the whole post, or understood its substance? The warband system is JUST as easy as the commander system.
This has been demonstrated in NUMEROUS games.. in fact… ALL of them except GW2.
And yet, here we are in GW2, the one without the warband system….
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WVW guilds and players need a place on there. Waiting almost a year for basic stuff like this is beyond words. And after the almost year, the third party version developed months ago is 100 times more useful than the in house version. Sigh.
3rd party doesn’t have to design/redesign/count manhours for overhead/read through as many forum posts on every subject in GW2 etc etc etc as the Dev team does.
3rd party say hmm I think I will stay up all hours and devote all my time to designing this.
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Okay so running 70 v 30 is the suck and exactly what I had hoped to avoid. Unfortunately, that is unlikely now. It is too easy to look great when you don’t have to do anything really spectacular to win.
To me transfer wins to “SF” our opponents is the bore. My questions is would FC or GoM; depending on who turns out the worse of the two servers after a week or two welcome a commander from ET? I do have an unorthodox style and like to use caps while leading so people know what to do (lets face it not everyone uses TS). Anyway let me know as I wouldn’t want to come over and cause issues.
Gilkin, don’t leave ET. You’re my favorite commander. You are one of two or three commanders that if I see in WvW I will run to join immediately. In all honesty I’m not a huge fan of Agg either but I’m sure at some point they’ll get bored and move on to another server. We could really use you when that time came. And if you do leave, it will be a sad day for everyone on ET.
Best of luck with whichever you decide however.
Now like I posted earlier, don’t go blaming AGG. They start out with their group, people just flock to them and make it zergy. They aren’t flyering your playground announcing zerg after school.
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Heh. Daemonne…I’m on GoM. Have been from the start and am having fun with the fights this week. I just like poking bears with sticks. Yes…I’m a trouble maker.
Having a Blast with you guys! Keep it up :-D
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Zergs don’t start out as Zerg for most situations.
A guild or group gets together with objectives in mind. Other guilds start putting the call out in their chat with things like “such n such is in so n so’s BL” People trickle in or flock in depending on the mood.
A Zerg is actually praise to some commanders (as well as a curse) because players recognize certain commanders for their tactics or remember that they had a great time last time they ran with said commander and search them out when they join WvW.
It’s not the commander running around saying Join My Zerg Muahahaha. BUT, sometimes when hit with opposition, a commander will put the call out for help. Often times the help doesn’t move off back to where they were prior, resulting in a larger mass moving across the continent.
In the end the commander is going to make use of the Zerg Ball because, lets face it, you have the firepower, do some good with it.
WvW is war. War isn’t fair. You do what you have to to win and use the resources you have available.
There’s always sPvP…
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@ Cantur: You guys better have progressed to T6 by the time we move to T7, I don’t want to go through all that again LOL.
@ Darkothe: You just have to be patient. SF had the masses to be considered way under their tier of play. All servers are going to have smack talkers and responders. There are some really good people in SF, it just sometimes doesn’t seem so because sometimes the smack-talkers overshadow the silent. Take in consideration their possible population numbers, the loud mouths on the forums hardly make up a small %.
As to my patient comment, I’m sure (even if Glicko doesn’t do the job properly) that the Dev’s are tracking SF and will step in and move them up again. Just don’t expect it to be right away. You may have to deal with them a month or a few as we in ET and FC had to.
The bright side is, after awhile, you really learn how to deal with shutting down the masses and turn them away. The downside is, you won’t have the numbers around the clock to continuously do this so will have to be content with the satisfaction you get from accomplishing what you can, when you can. Ignore the score. Concentrate on your competition with the other server until such time comes when SF have moved along.
OR if you can do-ordinate with the other server, you can give SF the fight they want, but moving them along to the next tier would be better as a whole.
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Well…Agg comprised a VERY large chunk of the zerg-murder ball that was rolling through the GoM borderlands last night.
BTW…I found someone’s undergarments in a sconce in the Lord’s Room after we’d kicked out some ET squatters from Bay. Honestly, you people need to learn how to be proper house guests. Drinking all the beer, not re-filling the ice in the freezer, leaving empty pizza boxes all over the place – well…it’s just disgusting.
Any chance the bro-mance between ET and FC is going to develop into something more? I mean the red border lands stay pretty darn red throughout the day while you blue meanies keep coming in to do naughty things in our borderlands. Is it love…or just a physical thing?
It’s all perspective and coincidence. Over the weekend we in ET saw FC’s territory completely untouched while both FC and GoM continuously invaded ET BL.
I’m pretty sure it goes to whomever has the greater lead will be the one to get hit by both to shorten the spread.
As far as AGG’s zerg ball, it’s not their fault. Agg runs a group and people learn where they are and flock to their commander’s Tag. They are a skilled guild and peeople like to roll with em.
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sPvP is very frustrating to play for not that good players. WvW isn’t.
You’re only ‘not that good’ at the beginning, just like everyone else. I’d rather be bad at sPvP than be good at WvW.
The beginning matters a lot when it causes players to stop playing altogether.
Also, sPvP is definitively unfun when you do too much solo queueing or hotjoin. Not everyone has a team available for serious tournament play.
An eSport game must be casual friendly or else it won’t have players at all. WvW isn’t eSport but is casual friendly so there are players there.
I don’t do tournies on a serious team. I group with friends when they’re on, solo queue when I have time and no one else is on, and hotjoin every other time. I’m rank 40 and I haven’t gotten bored yet. By your logic new players to Call of Duty would quit immediately if they’re not good enough. Everyone starts somewhere.
The mists seems WAY more casual friendly than WvW if only for that fact that you don’t have to spend countless hours farming gear to be competitive. You can configure your gear and build for free without wasting gold. You don’t have to pay for repairs. You spend more time fighting players in small battles and less time running around looking for something to do.
People who play pvp want to kill players, right? You have to get better at your class in order to kill players which means countless fights, respecs, gear changes etc. All of this is easier to accomplish in the mists. You’re not going to get better at your class in WvW where the numbers are always tilted toward one team, gear and consumables play a huge role, level plays a huge role, etc. Spamming ranged attacks at a zerg isn’t going to teach you the finer nuances of your class.
In sPvP you have the same gear options as everyone else with no consumables. The fights aren’t based on how good your gear is or if you’re up leveled or not. It eliminates that variable and forces you to be a better player on a balanced playing field. How can that be considered less fun PvP for people that truly enjoy PvP?
There you have it, you pointing out Call of Duty as an example tells me that you like tight playgrounds while if you had stated Battlefield 3 I would have envisioned wide open Battlefields
I wonder if you took a Poll if you would find that sPvP players would choose CoD and WvW players would come back with a majority of BF3 responses?
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My Guardian is still a lowbie, working on my 30’s.
That being said, I have been toying with the Build Editor while at lunches at work and have been wondering if this would be a decent support build.
I don’t have gear in mind yet other than straight up Clerics. I still have to search the forums more to see if there is a better set up for what I have in mind.
I am looking for a supportive door buster/siege defending build. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUEQNAW5elcgKDHGSPEm4ESmCRCBxeYRc0GdpIhkIA;T4AgzymEMJZS1kiJqbM3Iuxej7G5NrNGfA
Maybe swap Absolute Resolution with Elite Focus?
I’m completely unschooled in Guardians so please point out the flaws
Thank you.
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Well, I’m not really getting why Gilkin is leaving… By the way he’s talking, it’s like ET turned unto the new SF… I didn’t see the 70man zerg he mentioned, unless he’s talking about Agg and FoE offensives (which I tend to avoid for personal reasons)…
But if the game will be more fun for him at FC, I can just wish him good luck because I have nothing against him, except that since his name will become “Ferguson Crossing Invader” he’ll be attacked on sight.
We must not be fighting at the same times because from 6pm eastern to 11pm eastern we now generally have a queue non stop in EB, are taking over stuff in the other BLs and normally have our own capped. Last night we were running 70 people into 30 -35 and people were laughing about it. The same thing we railed SF about, we are now doing.
70 v 30 is wonderful to win and take stuff over, but that isn’t what I like, I don’t enjoy it. To me it is a boring snooze fest. Now things might equal out at other times, but I don’t get to play at those times except on rare occasion for a very limited amount of in game time.
As I said I’ll wait a week to see if it evens out (or if I was even welcome), but I want to lead when things are looking bad (which is the only time I really ever lead), not just when things look good and anyone can lead to victory. Different strokes for different folks.
I’ve followed you many a time Gilkin and you are a very good commander.
That being said, when these zerg fests are happening, how many commanders are tagged? Is it just one or two that the masses are flocking to because of lack of choice?
I know I join zerg fests when I am leveling a lowbie up, but tend to use my 80 when defending our BL or am with a medium sized group with a sepcific goal in mind.
Also keep in mind, if you are in ET BL, and see zergs, we are reclaiming our territory and will do what it takes :-) Zergs tend to discourage invaders.
Now in other BLs I like to see smaller groups split up and tactically taking enemy territory.
EB…well, thats just a big dang ball of zerg all around trying to spread the enemy thin enough to end up focusing on SM :-)
Definitely don’t want to see you go though. I think you just have to get cozy with a select group of people on at your time frame and lead them into the strategic strikes that you like. If your tag draws a crowd. Give your group a WP, Detag and alter your course until you need to Tag up to keep your group together again.
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
I think SF deserves credit when it’s due and us HoDs have to take a look at ourselves after this.
Yes, SF’s numbers are astounding, but they know what they’re doing. They move together well, rez their own promptly, know where to put their siege and know when to pull back as a group. That is what it takes to win in a large-scale war scenario.
Compare it to our own HoD zergs.
I’ve seen commanders like Pew Pew, Battlecamp, Aucifer and a few others haemorrhage because their zerg keeps getting glued to PvEing SM castle’s siege instead of taking a camp or lags behind trying to fight and get loot instead of pushing into a keep.
There have been talks last week of HoD being boosted by the transfers and moving up a tier or two but look at us now.
I think SF is an excellent reminder of what the real deal looks like. We’ve been somewhat pampered by the influx of transfers and (to be honest) our tactics in WvW are really sloppy and poor. We clearly need to tighten up our game plan if we want to survive in the higher tiers.
I was there trying to push SF when they had our keep in EB with a similar number to us, but they outfought us. If we were that good as we claimed to be, we would have at least been able to get a camp out of it.
(Shoutout to Lord Kael from [SONG] for that fight yesterday =D)
Now that SF are showing the numbers, I hear a lot of whining about them being all about numbers and see a lot of the numbers just disappear now that we’re not stomping around in WvW. It just proves that we have too many casual WvWers.
Bottom line: Without serious WvWers and a night crew, we won’t get anywhere. We need to stop whining and, perhaps, even start learning from SF.
Edit: Before anyone gets offended, I didn’t mean that we (HoD) suck. We’re good. Just not good enough to be pushing up another tier. Yet.
Being from ET, I applaud this post. While the numbers are overwhelming, there are ways to counter. The big issue is having the presence round the clock to deal with them as you will get non-peak hours where they still seem to have the numbers to zerg.
Big Big Big thing is Siege Defense. If you are not going to put the time,resources and effort into building up what you have taken, then a zerg will easily roll through and take it. with good Siege, a few can hold off many.
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
T7 is starting to talk about how we outnumber them in the forums… I just can’t wait until Monday when they post the true score boost numbers. Hope to see the rest of T8 out soon
Cracked me up when one guy posted that they’d seen your full force…..Um, no you haven’t met the players who haven’t found out about the switch yet.
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
As a commander who’s fought SF for months and months now, I’ll say this. SF generally doesn’t go all out on reset night like most servers do, and I’m assuming a lot of their players didn’t know/realize that they would be moving up a tier either, so don’t let your guard down! They might really crank up the heat in the next couple days, especially once players log in and realize its a different matchup.
Best of luck in T7 SF, make them feel some of the pain you gave us for the past 2-3 months xD.
I highly doubt that. I think once people realized that they moved up a tier, EVERYONE was in WvW, because, no joke, we destroyed SF at the start, and all of a sudden they were zerging EVERYWHERE. :P So I think we really saw a lot of what they have to offer tonight.
Not to be contradictory but, I think you will be surprised when you see their actual numbers.
When everyone on SF realizes the change, there will be queues in every BL + EB
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
SF, you better show us all you don’t belong here or in T7. Shoot through those guys and knock on T6s door. It’d make us feel tons better about how we fared against you :-D
Cantur, My wife and I actually zipped through the first book.. It’s worth giving it a shot :-)
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
As a resident of ET, alot of us are happy SF will get this opportunity to move up and show how they can shine (or fall) in T7. With the new environment and actual need to give it their best to climb up, they may show that they are actually ready for T6 if T7 can rouse interest in the people who got bored of “no light at the end of the tunnel” and stopped participating until a rally call is put out.
GL SF!!
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
I have to admit that the free server transfers to ET and FC feel like a blessing and a curse. A curse because we’re being punished by Glicko (yet again!) for “underperforming” again. But a blessing because we’re seeing well populated fights, more tactics, more strategy. It’s given the entire tier an opportunity to learn and grow and it’s been the most fun I’ve had in WvW in quite some time.
Quite frankly, I really feel the ratings for both ET and FC are just too low (hence the Glicko Ghetto problem, those uber low scores ultimately drag down the first place server in the tier, hence why we’re “stuck”) and are most certainly not an accurate reflection of their current WvW state. And after seeing Filthy’s posts about his alt account’s transfer to T7, I’d be REALLY interested in seeing how those T7 servers would fare against us T8 servers (not just SF, but ET and FC as well). Perhaps the entire T8 should be the next T7? :P
We’ll just have to get together a few 10 man Yak Slap teams and raise the scores up ;-D
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
Unless you are dead set on ratings OMGIMSOLEET!!! T8 is not that bad of a place to be this past couple of weeks. The battles are there and they are fun and challenging.
If you play solitaire with only one suit, your game is going to end faster and feel lacking.
