Guild Wars 2

I would like to see new quality content every 3 months, giving enough time for casual people to play that content , even is they only play for 1 or 2 months during that update. This also gives the player time for “normal” play not related to living story. A much more relaxed and enjoyable gaming experience.

Rushing to complete living story before patch day, simply isn’t fun.

My family and Living Story game design.

When Guild Wars 2 first went live it was just amazing, we loved the game and believed we had finally found a truly casual MMO. A game we could play at our own pace, when we wanted to play, and not be left behind when we didn’t play.

Then the Living Story started. Oh dear…

The very concept of temporary content goes against the entire casual game design. So now the game was dictating when we had to play , otherwise we got left behind, as far as game participation. A big block of content that would be gone after 2 to 4 weeks – really? Doing dailies was bad enough, now we have weekly/monthly content.

A true casual MMO would never remove content,(apart from special “holiday” themes, which is understandable. We can plan to play rare time-limited content, just not every month).

So what happened? We stopped playing. We could not keep up with amount of temporary content being pushed at us.

So, if you want casual players in Guild Wars 2, stop removing content. We just can’t play a game that dictates when we play.

Thanks for listening.

StormageddonBK.9842:

To the OP, play a different game. That’s what I did, I’ve been back on Skyrim for the past month and having a blast, and when I want a new adventure I download a mod that adds massive content, and I get to choose what content to install and if it’s no good I remove it!

I still read the forums here to see if anything’s changed to bring me back but threads like this keep me away as it confirms my decision not to play.

Yeah, I am pretty much over these updates. Waiting for the “Next” MMO to come out. Have fun guys, but this game has become something I don’t enjoy.

If the living story is the game, then I guess I am done here. Oh well.

Veydar.5017:

Diva.4706:

Mini games are okay, if the rest of the game is also getting new permanent content. The thing is , it isn`t. What bothers me also is all the temporary content, and the living story.
For many players, the most important content is MMORPG based gaming content, not mini-games. Mini games are fluff, distractions, not THE GAME. If I wanted to play mini-games, I would play on social media.

So, if we are going to get more of this type of content in future , we MUST also get permanent MMORPG game content as well. If we don’t, we will end up with a chat room full of mini games.

I love the Guild Wars 2 world, it just seems to be going in the wrong direction.

I am beginning to realize that this is not what most players want. GW2 isn’t really seen as an MMO RPG anymore but just as an MMO game. Be it fluffy Kirby jumping, arcade games, serious esports or storytelling there’s no real priority. It’s pretty much a big bowl of activites and everyone can reach in and grab some stuff. I could imagine that a lot of players like that, the RPGers probably not so much.

Yeah, the worst thing to happen to MMORPGs, is they became mass-market. Even Arenanet states they are aiming for a television episodic style entertainment format. What about game play depth, character build customization, good group content, trade skills that really matter, rare items you could work/quest for (not RNG).

I guess I will always be old-school, in a modern game…

Mini games are okay, if the rest of the game is also getting new permanent content. The thing is , it isn`t. What bothers me also is all the temporary content, and the living story.
For many players, the most important content is MMORPG based gaming content, not mini-games. Mini games are fluff, distractions, not THE GAME. If I wanted to play mini-games, I would play on social media.

So, if we are going to get more of this type of content in future , we MUST also get permanent MMORPG game content as well. If we don’t, we will end up with a chat room full of mini games.

I love the Guild Wars 2 world, it just seems to be going in the wrong direction.

It gives you a random cat form.
Account bound, never soulbound.
Lasts for 5 minutes, or until you zone.
Instantly re-usable.
Can be used on jumping puzzles

No regrets. But then I play for fun.

It would be cool if female Necromancers actually became a female Lich. Pretty please

I never liked encounters that have you play a “mini-game” instead of using your characters skills. This goes for all MMOs, not just GW2. I guess it adds some variety, but to me it smacks of “video-game” mechanics, not MMO style game play.

It might sound odd, but I play MMOs because I generally don’t like “Video games”. People call me a gamer, which isn’t true. I am a long time MMO player. There is a difference

Pay to Win : Buying gear with RL money that gives you a power advantage over other players.

GW2 “version” of pay to win: Buying awesome skins for RL money, because the “goal” of GW2 is to look awesome, not to be awesome

It’s up to the player to ignore it or not. I learned to ignore it and just enjoy my game time.

The advantage of no sub for GW2 for my family, is it doesn’t cost us $60 a month to play. (yes we have 4 players in the home).

We don’t play standard F2P MMOs, because of the game breaking restrictions most of those impose

So for us GW2 B2P is perfect with no downside.

Edit: Also you can buy GW2 as a gift, unlike sub based MMOs : Here is a gift ,oh and btw you have to pay $15 a month

The game is a playground. With no height restrictions on the big rides. It’s all about the fun.

I play because the game is fun.

I am SO happy that Anet took the chance , and made a none gear based MMO. It is now forever My favorite game.

Nine characters, not one Legendary, one very happy customer. Priceless.

PraetorMortis.8610:

Seriously…there is no way to farm as every farm in the game gets removed. (except CoF) and every item takes an enormously long time to get. This game is so slow and grind driven that I’ve begun to miss gear treadmilling. At least something (even if it’s not great) drops in raids. I can’t understand why 50% of the mobs in the game drop NO loot. What a stupid stupid stupid system.

I’ve heard all this chatter about GW2 being best MMO of the year and such. If THIS is the best game then it’s really more of a commentary on the sad state of MMORPGs in the current market.

I’m all for putting the time and playing the game for rewards but at this point, the carrots (ascended gear, legendary weapon) are so far away that I don’t even find them motivating.

Hopefully ArenaNet can do something to fun up this game a little. Would it really be so hard to make playing a little less grindy and a little more rewarding??

If you are grinding in GW2 , then you are playing as if GW2 is a gear based game. It isn’t.
Don’t grind, just play and the rewards will be way better than simply getting loot. If it isn’t fun, then you don’t like the game.

I see this all the time. People still view GW2 as an “old school” MMO. GW2 is about ENTERTAINING the player, not about making them more powerful. This is why we have things like Living Story and temporary content. It is about having fun in a living, changing world. (at 80 you have the whole world to play in, not just high end).

GW2 ,isn’t a theme park MMO.
GW2 isn’t a Sandbox MMO.
GW2 is a Playground MMO. It’s simply about playing for fun.

Meglobob.8620:

I would have preferred a spend your points wherever you want system with no restrictions other than a total amount of points to spend.

Often, with the present system you may want a trait but not the stats or vice versa…

For example recently built a glyth ele but I am forced to have 20 points of precsion to get the glyth traits, when I really want 20 power…

The current trait system cuts down on build diversity…hugely…can’t understand why developers constantly restrict build diversity…instead of it being completely open ended and allowing players to have what they want…

In a word: Balance.

But the one thing about MMOs is they are almost impossible to balance, this is why they restrict choices. I am all for an open skill based MMO. But such a system would cause some players to be more powerful than others, then the weak complain….

Free hugs for everyone !

I like GW2, and how they tried something different, but for me, the one feature I sometimes miss, (especially for the harder content), is trinity. Some times I wish we just had a true tank + healer option. I played a healer before and it was always my favorite class. Oh how the old school days seem so bright

(Played MMOs for 14 years)

Thanks Vayne for the advice

For my friends and I, the “Hard” content in GW2 is too hard. Even the new southsun cove story line has us fighting Karka, which we simply hate. We like content that 2 or 3 of us can actually have fun playing, without dieing all the time. If we die all the time, it just makes us not want to play. If we don’t play , we don’t spend money.

I think the problem with GW2 dungeons is that there is no defined role for people to play, and many casual players need that. Dungeons are not too hard for “skilled” players, but true casual players,( they don’t read forums or patch notes, they just log in and play), simply find them not fun, even though these very same players did dungeon/raid content before GW2.

Right Wbborox, I also see myself as “casual” but I play often and do lots of content. It seems that because the no trinity system, many casual players see dungeons as a crazy fight, and die a lot. Result: they stop doing dungeons all together.

So I already did Molten Weapon Facility with my guild, and to be honest it was fun till the end fight, where I was dead for about 80% of the time.

But I digress. Tonight I asked a few friends, who have not finished it, if they wanted to go run it and the response was unanimous : no its too hard, and not fun. This got me thinking, because these same people would run dungeons in our previous MMO all the time, and sometimes even raid. That was an MMO with trinity.

So my question is, are dungeons not for casual “fun” play in Guild Wars 2, and is it because of the no trinity system.

See my post about a possible fix:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Possible-fix-for-client-crash-lost-internet/first#post2002155

Still not had the issue since I did this.

I had issues with Guild wars2 seemingly killing my internet connection. The game would loose connection , as well as my internet going offline. My internet would then come back on after a few seconds. This would happen several times a day, but not effect any other pc running GW2 on the same network.

So I tried assigning my pc a dedicated IP of 192.168.0.9 , which is outside the DHCP pool on my router.

Not had one crash or disconnect in over a week. Time will tell if this was a true fix.

I never farm. I just play. It is way more fun.

I am having this issue. When Gw2 is running , some times my internet access goes offline. Network notification in task bar says “No internet”. It will then reconnect within a few seconds. This has happened even though another Pc, on the same network, running Gw2 at the same time stays online just fine .

I am running Windows 7 SP1 64bit, AMD 1820, 8GB Ram, Radeon 6850, Realtek PCIe GBE Family controller. Zoom gigabit modem.

I usually have teamspeak, yahoo messenger and firefox open while playing.

Withabix.2756:

Run the game in “Fullscreen Windowed” at the resolution your main monitor runs at and it’ll never minimize.

It’s not a bug. Some games are coded to not allow you to drag off the screen and is probably why you think this is a bug.

hope this helps.

This is how I run the game with 2 monitors, (2x 1920×1080 on Radeon 6850). The game does not minimize.

No. It breeds elitism. We are all playing together, lets not divide the player base with gear checks.

Here are some things I would like added to the trade skill panel

1. Allow us to directly make an item, without having to first make the components, for any recipe that is already discovered.

2. Show the level of the finished item in the recipe list.

3. Show how many of an item you “could” make, based on the amount of components you CAN make.

4. If we are missing an ingredient, (for a recipe that is already discovered), open up the buy option for the item in the TP window, and allow us to buy it and complete the combine.

4. Allow us to collect items from the trade post in the trade skill UI.

This would make a good addition to the enjoyment of trade skill.

It still amazes me that everything the OP listed is given to us for just the box price, with NO SUBSCRIPTION!
To be able to play a game of this quality, with 1,000s of hour of enjoyment, if just a joy.

Arenanet, you really did set the bar high, not just for MMOs, but for all future buy-to-play games.
Thank you !

I was exploring PvE on my Mesmer. I ran upon another Mesmer and we starting to fight our way into a camp, once inside we took down a tough champion, with adds, just the 2 of us. Mesmers have great survivability.

In life we place value on items that are rare,unique or in some way give us a desire to own them. From trading cards to flat screen TVs to virtual items in a video game, these are items many feel a need to own.

This game has items that are very rare. You can play a (very) long time to acquire rare items, or buy gold from ArenaNet, to bypass the time sink. Some argue that this a fair system. People rich in time can find rare item and people rich in money can just buy the same rewards.

There is an issue though, when rarity is actually controlled by the very source of the gold option. If people stop buying gold, the rarity of items can simply be increased, therefor pushing more people to buy gold. The person “rich” in time just became poorer.
What happens when items are so rare, that almost nobody finds them in game, and the cost of ownership is beyond what can be achieved through normal game play? Are we all expected to “virtually shop”, and stop playing the actual game? Does this give a perceived advantage to real life wealth? Is owning items enough of a reward, even if you simply bought them, or is finding them in game the only rewarding way for you?

So, what is the best balance between rarity and gold?

(Footnote: I do support buying gems for added features such as bank space, character slots, etc, as these are one-time fees and do not advance or influence characters progression. These optional purchases are well defined and are not in any way linked to actual game play. A set price for a specific account upgrade.)

Dyes are a form of optional character progression. the fact that they are rare makes us want them In GW1 I had black dye drop one. ONCE.

There are plenty of Trinity MMOs
ArenaNet chose to not include it as a mechanic. It was a brave move, right or wrong. Many like it this way, some don’t.

Not having Trinity : Anyone can join in and play. No defined “roles” for players, no hand holding on what you are meant to do in a party, it is up to the people present to figure it out. No gear checks.

Down side: The game does not tell you what your job is in a party. Poor boss fight mechanics. No large scale “raids”, just massive zergs.

If the game maintains a high retention of players, then ArenaNet was right. Time will tell.

OP; I used to feel the same as you, and I too have ranted ( guilty as charged! ) about things in GW2 I don’t like. But you know what, there is much I still do like, so I just play THAT content. I don’t do JPs at all, for me they don’t exist. Learn to not be a completist and you will be much happier

GW2 is a front to sell people gold. They control drop rates and RNG chance, and they will sell you gold to overcome/lower these barriers.

Pretty clever business model, but it spoils the game in the end.

Because a cash player can be equal simply kills the game for me . It stops being a game where you earn status and rewards, you just buy it. I don’t wish to play in an environment where the company is fine with you just buying your way through the game. If you are fine with it, go and have fun. I am done here.

No it is not cosmetic. You can buy a character. You can buy the gear. You can buy the ultimate “end game” skins. The fact you are equal power is not the point. You can be equal to another person, without even playing the game. Disappointing Arenanet, simply disappointing…

It isn’t about jealously, its about wanting a game world and economy that is separate and unaffected by real money.

I would like to thank everyone for their comments. The issue of RMT can get heated, and there are some fair arguments on both sides.

In the case of GW2, I love the art style of the game and many of the play mechanics, but the fact that the company is fine with players being able to simple buy, or at least lessen barriers to obtaining rare reward (not power items, rare items), just seems wrong to me.

I know people have always used real money to “cheat” in MMOs, but it was usually at the risk of breaking the EULA and facing the risk of being banned. It was not in any way approved by most companies. Now we have companies that actually encourage you to buy gold, so you can “get rewards”, instead of playing the game they actually spent years making.

I agree that GW2 is not a strict P2W game, but with many items being incredible difficult to get through normal game play, it is definitely a pay-to-not-grind game.

GW2 is a good game, I just don’t care for the RMT. So I have decided to take a break, I may play again in the future if things change.

Good hunting, and be cool to each other

penatbater.4710:

Diva.4706:

The game is designed so that you will buy gold, to obtain the rarest rewards. totally P2W.

rarest rewards that have absolutely no impact on your gameplay (how much damage you dish out/can take) probably with the teeny exception of ascended backpiece, and even then its just 1 armor piece.

I didn’t say powerful , I said rarest. Getting the rarest items in GW2 is the “Win” because they are the “end game”.

I guess I will have to think of it this way. The people spending $ to get content, are paying my sub fee. Yeah that feels better…

They may as well just sell the skins in the cash-shop and be done with it.

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Diva.4706:

So, my wife and I have played GW2 since beta, and we have had a lot of fun. But now we are starting to see the game for what it actually is : Pay-to-win. A friend of ours started to play and was level 80 in 5 days, because he used $ to buy trade-skill mats to level up. This really made our level 80s seem pretty pointless, because it was then obvious that you can basically “buy” a level 80.

Now there are legendary weapons showing up on the trading post. We are very unhappy with this development. It seems most modern MMOs are all pay to win these day, with their cash-shops and the ability to buy coin. We long for the good old days of an even play field, no matter your standing in real life. I am now starting to look elsewhere for another MMO, even sub-based, with NO real life influence on your character. I worry that those days are over, and my enjoyment of MMO gaming is coming to an end.

It’s not buy to win, you are saying it’s buy-to-get-to-lvl-80. Legendaries on the trading post are just a joke, no one will ever buy it, people are just trying to anonymously show off their money/legendary which makes 0 sense. And really…legendaries were always using gold to get it, 250 of all t6 mats + more? Who will get these materials just by farming? No one. The drop rate for lodestones? No one can/ will farm this…

The game is designed so that you will buy gold, to obtain the rarest rewards. totally P2W.

Farzo.8410:

Diva.4706:

My point is that real life wealth should have zero impact on the game.

Sadly there are gold sellers in every game that makes it possible. ArenaNet made the decision to sell it themselves instead, which is a lot better than illegal gold selling.

This is true, and I almost wish MMOs had not gone mainstream. Still the fact that the company is fine with you buying rewards, instead of earning them, makes me not want to play their game.

Old-school MMO : A person making 25K a year was equal to a person making $250K , in the game world. Now they are not. The MMO was an escape into another world, where we are all equal and only hard work and dedication would bring you great rewards. Now you just open your real world wallet. It has killed what an MMO used to be.

My point is that real life wealth should have zero impact on the game.

TheDaiBish.9735:

Diva.4706:

I want an MMO where real money only allows access to log in. When in game, all content is obtained/experienced through game play. Period.

I feel those types of games are gone.

Please tell.

What content can’t you access through gameplay?

you miss my point entirely

I want an MMO where real money only allows access to log in. When in game, all content is obtained/experienced through game play. Period.

I feel those types of games are gone.

So, my wife and I have played GW2 since beta, and we have had a lot of fun. But now we are starting to see the game for what it actually is : Pay-to-win. A friend of ours started to play and was level 80 in 5 days, because he used $ to buy trade-skill mats to level up. This really made our level 80s seem pretty pointless, because it was then obvious that you can basically “buy” a level 80.

Now there are legendary weapons showing up on the trading post. We are very unhappy with this development. It seems most modern MMOs are all pay to win these day, with their cash-shops and the ability to buy coin. We long for the good old days of an even play field, no matter your standing in real life. I am now starting to look elsewhere for another MMO, even sub-based, with NO real life influence on your character. I worry that those days are over, and my enjoyment of MMO gaming is coming to an end.