0/30/10/0/30 works well and has both, hardly a new build though, just dropped off the radar.
Clearly, ppl that claim that offhand axe is not usable in high end tpvp shouldnt claim to even be playing high end tpvp in the first place.
No kidding, if you WD ontop of a downed player the enemy team usually will not even go near them out of fear of what that added damage and vuln will do to them in the team fight, not to mention I’ve noticed a lot of enemies are hesitant to attack you with Melee now too due to the retal.
I like my turrets… However I’m looking into making an alchemy/Elixir gun/Flame thrower build myself more because I like all those condis, also wanting to try a Gadget build…. But I feel they’re just not “good”(I can’t get one to work I’m probably doing it wrong).
PS: how was necro nerfed into the ground?
Mortar would be good if 1) there was no min range and 2) if you could move, if it were a weapon kit, it’d be kittening amazing, especially since it could work like it does now where there’s no CD on it
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If you haven’t been listening to Guang you are missing out. That dude has always been ahead of the power curve when it comes to understanding professions and squeezing the most damage out of them.From what I have noticed, and no offence to this guy.. It appears he takes a million stabs in the dark and every so often it turns out one of the crazy things he has said turns out to be true and then you give him credit for it. Not that there’s anything wrong with that of course but he sure says alot of whack stuff that not only he cannot prove, but DNT has tested and cannot find viable either.
You’re confusing Guang with me, Guang always has super tested builds, I’m a trial by fire sort of guy and just throw builds together and see what happens.
Did you activate your spirits at all during this? Because the spirits can trigger the effects of other spirits.
Another way to implement Heavy Armor defenses, without actually using Heavy Armor, could be to use the new skills they’re going to be adding to add a set of skills based on the idea of technological armor modifications – basically, treat them like Signets that give a passive Defense/Armor boost, and maybe a passive effect like the Signets of other classes.
Obviously, that might be a bit much, but I think, if they did it in such a way that the defense boost was the Toolbelt effect and the Signet-like technological effects were on the Utility Bar, I think it could work out.
Oooh I’d like this, it’d be pretty cool if they added some minor effects around you too, but hardly required… Kinda hope this happens now xD
Haha that’s awesome! Can’t wait to see it. Makes sense with the dps turrets. Have you ever tried cc turrets and 100b or bs thief? Warrior /thief loves it if they can target swap good
I have not, only 100b warrior I know is too elitist to try a game with a turret engi (he’s an idiot) and idk any BS thieves, although could probably get my condi thief friend to try it.
Longbow on ranger is THE FURTHEST weapon range in the game, rifles by default are at 1000 range, to make matters worse bows projectiles go a bit further than their range says they will, a guns (and spells) projectiles will go to the max range and despawn
If they made us a Heavy Armor class at this point, I should hope they didn’t change our skills into “So, uh, now you guys are Tech-Based Warrior types. Have fun!” and instead left us with the skills we still have.
It’s not unthinkable that they’ll make a Mech-Suit skin for armor; the current series of things with the Aetherblades has already added steampunk-flavored gear, after all.
Strangely enough, I’m actually not concerned with the looks of the armor – I barely look at my Engineer, these days. Given that I’ve played him for hundreds of hours, I pretty much just go “He’s there, right? Yeah. Cool.” Any suggestions I’ve made regarding aesthetics are purely to make the theoretical transition as painless as possible – ninety percent of the armor switch suggestion is how to keep people happy while implementing it.
To be honest? Best way I could think of implementing it (and this would be for multiple professions) would be make a Grandmaster Trait that’s essentially While wearing X armor type you gain X huge bonus (IE engi in heavy armor would give a bonus to something idk what).
Granted that’s not my idea, I saw it in the guardian forums through a friend a while ago, someone wanted Guardians to be able to wear light armor and gain a ton of healing power and endurance regen in exchange.
Ok I had to stop reading this thread because my brain started hurting but am I the only one who noticed the thread was complaining about the lack of vuln on hunter’s shot now but turned into Zenith agreeing the change was crap and used the fact 2 Warriors can keep vuln up to the stack permanently as proof?
If the Warriors can keep the vuln up, who cares where it gets stuck on Rangers?
Or, you can take one ranger or one engi and keep up 25 vuln by them alone…. Logic, kitten it.
how did a ranger keep perma 25 vuln up?
perm 10 from hunters shot; sure
20 at the start of a fight (openeing trikes+hunters shot)
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those rnadom pet skills?…
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swoop_ 1/2 vuln perm (theoretically)
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Slash_ hmm… 10 in theory; but ive never seen my jaguar stack 10 vuln; likely do to aftercast/using other attacks… 4-6 would probably be more accurate
still not seeing it
Uh, post patch? Take remorseless, use a longbow, that’s 25 vuln at opening, 20 of which is super easy to maintain, and he was saying in his dungeon group nothing lived long enough for the 25 to fall off, so there ya have it.
Actually I do Flame, Rocket, Rifle because the warrior brings soooooo much CC by himself, the turrets and mortar give the damage, and also since the Mortar can’t crit, maxing your power out via Soldiers Armor makes it very lethal, I’ll try and get my friend in his warrior build tonight so I can get some footage (didn’t record anything).
He may be against doing it today due to the patch, but I’m sure I can get it within a few days!!
PS: if I haven’t mentioned it in 3-4 days just PM me and yell at me, because chances are friend said no and I just forgot to bug him about it again.
Ah, so it’s the playstyle and skillset that results from a class being designed with heavy armor that you disagree with.
What if they didn’t change our skills, and gave us Heavy Armor? All the same skills would be available, leaving possible differences in playstyle entirely dependent upon the user.
I don’t see why they’d have it like that, but now that I think of it if we were a heavy armor prof that used a bunch of active effects and dodges IE activating shields on our armor etc, then I’d be ok with it.
If our heavy armor was like infused with all this tech to make it more like a Mech Suit than just armor I’d be ok with it, granted I’d like aesthetic of the medium more, but there’s a good amount of heavy armor sets I do like.
PS: you may wanna look into Radiant Armor, it looks like Heavy Armor (granted only 3 pieces)
@anymas I picked it for both, I can’t stand heavy armor, never have never will.
If it were light or medium armor I’m totally happy with it because they tend to have active defenses or evade things, heavy armor tends to be “just eat it, we’ve got plenty of armor!” And I’m not a fan of that.
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To get the topic back on track: Let’s see some more footage, Tex!
Also, has anyone tried (or theorycrafted) a Mortar build just for lols? I feel like there are some good perches in certain maps where you could get a few shots off before someone sneezed on the Mortar and destroyed it.
I’ll get some footage of my Mortar + Turret defense build, throw all the turrets (minus healing) down on point in Nifihel with the CC warrior and lit up the enemy, worked A LOT better than expected.
Maps it works on, Capricorn, Nifihel(all points), Khylo ( clock tower only), Temple (all but not as safe as Nif), have not tried it on spirit or sky hammer.
The trick is for you to be far away from the point (your AoEs should just hit the point, and not by too much) so if they come for you they are not capping at all, if they’re on the point between the turrets and the warriors CC they are TOAST, we normally did this at the mid point or the enemies natural because of how fortifiable it is.
If you want burst you’re playing the wrong prof, thief IS burst, ranger is SUSTAIN, if you want burst you’ve come to the wrong place.
Every class is capable of some burst. This is a PvP game… the only damage that’s valuable is the kind that can provide pressure. There are only 2 ways to do that: burst and AE. The ranger just doesn’t have any. The little it does provide is pet reliant and we know how that works out in WvW with the zergs.
You’re right, this is a PvP game which is why you’re wrong, you can also do sustained damage and shut down the enemies attempts to kill you and save themselves and do just as well, if not better, just because burst is the easiest method to perform doesn’t mean it’s the only, let alone best, method.
One thing I gotta say, ranger is the only prof that stayed true to the original Combat aspect of GW2 (surprise surprise, least edited one), it’s damage comes from auto attacking and then its utility/support comes from activating your other skills, which hurts your DPS, so if all you want is top Damage (because god knows why that’s “fun”) then you won’t be doing kitten. But in PvP there’s still a lot of interaction, and real PvE (not speed run), so there’s that.
All that being said, I’m giving my engi a lot more love again (idk why I stopped) because it provides a lot more of that thing everyone hates called CC.
If you want burst you’re playing the wrong prof, thief IS burst, ranger is SUSTAIN, if you want burst you’ve come to the wrong place.
Its only one 3 sec stealth skill, I do not think its worth making a whole build around .. it isn’t going to save you except from bad players.
Even a good player is going to get body blocked by a spirit if you know how to position yourself.
I don’t want no stinkin heavy armor, if I wanted heavy armor I would’ve rolled a warrior or a guardian, not to mention dervish will absolutely not be heavy, end of story, if anyone of the old profs go heavy it’ll be ritualist (and that’s a STRETCH) remember only 2/10 profs in GW1 has heavy armor, both of which returned (paragon lore wise was turned into guardian due to combining their training with that of the monks).
PS: was anyone else hoping by “Heavy Up” he meant “Give us a Gatling Gun!”?
Ok first things first, send your pet in and start trying to heal, ESPECIALLY if you have Circle of Life traited ( so many times I’ve rallied cause of that thing), if you can’t heal via 4 then throw your dirt like a madman, if things are looking good for you keep your pet on the enemy and keep hurling dirt, if your health starts nearing the 25% mark fake calling your pet back to heal via F3 and hit 4 most players will waste their interrupt on this, swap pets and hit 3 and unless you’re fighting a warrior (auto loss unless you got lucky as hell) you’ll win the down fight, or if you’re highly unlucky and up up between a downed engi and a wall….
Mesmers are the exception, you want to avoid using downed skills at all costs unless you have your pet standing on you rezzing.
Btw, NEVER use your interrupt unless its to stop a cast or finish someone, it does a good chunk of damage (especially if you’re power) but that interrupt potential is much more useful than the damage.
PS: I’m assuming you’re talking about Downed vs Downed, If not please clarify.
its pretty strong… no video but just fought one…
u keep losing target and spirits body block while he just dwindles u down…its a pseudo mesmer lol
This, I made one pretty quickly after patch lol, 30/20/0/20/0 was first try then I changed it to 20/20/0/30/0 and had better results.
Both were done using Berserkers, Rampagers, and valk, can’t tell which I like more yet…
Btw guys, the vuln applied from Hunters Shot was 10 for 8s, the new Vuln on rapid fire is 10s per stack, so the vuln will be up longer than it would have been on hunters shot, granted it won’t be up at peak strength as long, but it’ll still be up for a while, and assuming it takes a full 2s to apply all the vuln then it’s literally a buff and means the vuln is up LONGER than before, that is all.
Ok I had to stop reading this thread because my brain started hurting but am I the only one who noticed the thread was complaining about the lack of vuln on hunter’s shot now but turned into Zenith agreeing the change was crap and used the fact 2 Warriors can keep vuln up to the stack permanently as proof?
If the Warriors can keep the vuln up, who cares where it gets stuck on Rangers?
Or, you can take one ranger or one engi and keep up 25 vuln by them alone…. Logic, kitten it.
Well the bows look horrible (i hate compound bows), but that rifle…. and pistol… and staff…. i must have them!!!!
So how many tears will fall from 100% crit mauls executed from stealth after this goes live? I predict rivers :o
The thieves will drown in their own tears!! This is going to be amazing!! It’ll be like playing Teemo in League of Legends >=D
Did this around my house http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS1cLOIxsQ8
CURSES!! You beat me to it!!
Not to mention i could always move the 20 points from WS into BM and still have similar burst to your signets and also guarantee my pets going to wreck you with his next hit (his next attack is ALSO a crit when i refresh remorseless and with sig of the hunt that’s a double crit)
enjoy; potential new build that can utilize the burst given by stealth.
I like the build, but the only issue I have is that you have an incredible crit damage and almost no crit chance. If you swap out the cavalier for knights your damage goes up a lot.
Remorseless is a guaranteed crit every 9.5s
Nevermind.
You’re right though. A guaranteed crit every 9.5 seconds is about 11% crit chance on a longbow. The benefit is that you can pick the hit that criticals. That’s important in a PvP setting, maybe not as much in a PvE setting.
It’s important in both, not to mention you can make sure that 1000+ range longbow shot crits, and that’s going to HURT, i’ve seen those things hit for double digits before, GG if you get hit by one of those while you have 25 vuln and that ranger was given 25 might lol
I edited my post a little. The thing to keep in mind is that remorseless competes with signet of the beastmaster. If you want to control burst, why not take the crit on weapon swap sigil and pop SotH and SotW?
Because i like to not be a one trick pony who activates all my skills for my burst and would much rather pop one 9.5s CD skill that’s both a shield and a sword and use my utilities to inhibit my enemies from killing me.
Doesn’t matter how hard you can hit for your 10s of strength when i can just slip away and keep up my remorseless and relentless assault from afar.
Pssscht, only reason i’m voting for Kiel is because i want to see LA torn in another Civil War, Consortium Vs Lionguard, yes! THE CHAOS!! throws head back and laughs madly
Oh yeah…. The Reactor will be interesting too i suppose…
enjoy; potential new build that can utilize the burst given by stealth.
I like the build, but the only issue I have is that you have an incredible crit damage and almost no crit chance. If you swap out the cavalier for knights your damage goes up a lot.
Remorseless is a guaranteed crit every 9.5s
Nevermind.
You’re right though. A guaranteed crit every 9.5 seconds is about 11% crit chance on a longbow. The benefit is that you can pick the hit that criticals. That’s important in a PvP setting, maybe not as much in a PvE setting.
It’s important in both, not to mention you can make sure that 1000+ range longbow shot crits, and that’s going to HURT, i’ve seen those things hit for double digits before, GG if you get hit by one of those while you have 25 vuln and that ranger was given 25 might lol
I am really really happy about longbow changes, but I still doubt if longbow is viable aside from full zerker.
Longbow has been my weapon of choice since late beta, it has soooooo much support for your team, and now it’s got some kittening teeth too!! Ohohoho am i going to bust peoples faces open now!! And keep in mind with remorseless and quickdraw we have a guaranteed crit every 9.5s, so we don’t need crit chance, trade that kitten in for a defensive stat, take valk gear, profit
All I can see is this:
Among other benefits the stealth on HUNTERS also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.
lol the skills called Hunter’s Shot, he’s probably saying Hunters as in the skill, not the prof.
In b4 thieves realize we’re getting ranged CnD.
It might be first step in implementing limited stealth options to ranger class. Remember, we already get stealth on CC through trait. Perhaps an alpha Ranger stealth utility could make comeback in some form? I could imagine SB or GS getting stealth treatment as well.
meh, they shouldn’t make it widely available, or else, it will go back to the good old days were it was all about SB. It would also be lame, and we would just become some kinda “weird thief”
My first thought of a ranger is hiding in the bush scouting a target. Laying down traps, being silent, unmatched in the woods. The only knowledge of said ranger is when you find a dead guard or bandit, with 3 shafted arrows in his chest, back, or neck.
A thief is more hidden in the crowds, or uses underhanded tactics. Ball shot, poison, prepared explosions, never being seen. Throwing coins so urchins cover his escape, using friends, caltrops, rusty spikes.
I see a mesmer as putting on a show, fooling you without you ever looking away. I don’t see mesmers having stealth.
If you’ve ever seen the move Now You See Me, that’s how mesmers stealth, they manipulate your attention to where they want it and use their sleight of hand and illusions to get what they want and to escape, they blind side you while you’re staring in awe at them and their show.
Classic Misdirection!
enjoy; potential new build that can utilize the burst given by stealth.
I like the build, but the only issue I have is that you have an incredible crit damage and almost no crit chance. If you swap out the cavalier for knights your damage goes up a lot.
Remorseless is a guaranteed crit every 9.5s
Omg…. To think i was considering playing an engi over my ranger again, i’ve never been so wrong in my life!!
My two Favorite weapons (longbow and war horn) just got buffed big time!! THIS IS AMAZING!!
I would like to see “Always Prepared!” To change your #1 skill from “Throw Junk!” To “Fire Experimental Bullet!” Which would have the same effects as Throw Junk but deal SIGNIFICANTLY more physical damage and increase the condi effectiveness and maybe even the range, I’d say have it boost the damage on the other downed skills too, but I feel those are ok…
O.o what is a roaming Rocketeer? I must know what that is!!
PS: Is there room for a turret engi?
Slick shoes + Rocket boots.
And for a full “rocket” feel, you can also equip rocket turret.
Aw yeah, the Quadturret Engi… Fixed ^_-
With supply crate it makes it 8 turrets ;D
And i may need to try that lol
O.o what is a roaming Rocketeer? I must know what that is!!
PS: Is there room for a turret engi?
So, has anyone noticed that BOTH the fractals are events in Tyrian History that tore the fabric of reality? Reactor is obvious, it tore reality, kitten is still going crazy there, not to mention, and Abbadons tore reality as well, which wasn’t as well known… created a rift between the Realm of Torment and Tyria.
Coincidence? I think not!
I was supporting the Reactor hoping it would tore reality more. But if Abbadons also makes reality turn inside out all over Tyria. Then I don’t care who wins. As long as the open world gets kittened up, I’m happy.
Abbadons isn’t all over, just that one location.
Rangers have the same trait as an Adept Minor trait. They spend 5 points and get it without having to choose it, we spend 30 and have to blow a Grandmaster on it.
It’s little things like that, that make it seem like they ran short of ideas when it came to us.
Rangers also have nothing in terms of control compared to engis and same goes for defensive abilities, so there’s also that…
Pretty sure the tokens can be grinded too, which again would favour the dungeon runners / grind-masters. Not that it’s a bad thing, because it is the grinders that will mostly be affected by whatever outcome happens I’d think.
I’ve got to admit, that’s a very clever gold sink though – especially if they decide to display “event status bars” during the whole thing so people can see who is winning the race.
They probably will, it’ll be a huge gold destroyer which is kinda good.
I’m just going to grind that Horde Mode mini game, I NEED those Aetherized weapons xD
Up until this point my vote was undecided…
reduced WP vs BL keys …meh
Factal Dungeon choice … meh (FYI i never plated GW1 so i’m clueless with lore)however reading the previews today has all but decided my choice based on one thing…
Aspect Arena VS Southsun Survival
I want to try this Survival game SOOOO bad (i was not in beta weekend but from what I have read it sounds amazing) so I have decided…
Vote for Evon!
They both give the same Minigames, so idk why you’d be voting for Evon.
I’d rather see Kiel win, I mean c’mon… CHAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOSSSSSSS!! That and I have no idea what went down there, but my god do I want to know!!
As long as the end result is that Lion’s Arch is torched, destroyed, flattened, wiped out from the map, and all of its criminal / criminal supporter inhabitants (pretty much all of them) are killed and/or executed then I will be happy.
More so if I can slay all of them myself.
Well, someone’s Mr. lawful now aren’t we? Some of us like Lions Arch and are quite happy with it not being torched!
The candidates are both two sides of the same coin. They want to use these in Fractals of the Mists so they can rip it apart and then claim the flame legion destroyed the FOTM. Watch the council start a war.
If this ends up happening I’d be fairly pleased lol
I’ve used it because I took neither of those other traits because I wanted other stuff more, but yeah I think the trait needs a boost or to be lowered…
A tool kit…
And yes I know, but I want a tool kit where we actually USE THE TOOLS AS TOOLS instead of using them for thuggish face smashing. I would love for example, if each toolkit ability could grant boons to your turrets, or anything that doesn’t look ripped off from Casey Jones.
Id rather our current toolkit just get a trait that does this
WTB Gatling Gun Kit, Sniper Kit and/or Tank elite skill…
I use Mortar for the reasons of I like the 5 skill and in WvW it prevents me from being pulled into my death, I can think of no other reason to use it…. I think it may need a buff or two before its worthy of being an elite…
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