Guild Wars 2

Malcastus.6240:

Sounds unreasonable. Why should Fortify stay, when you drop the shield that gives you the skill?

I do agree that you should be able to blink while using it at least.

to make it viable,
Im not gonna trade my holy trinity slots for something unusable, obviously.
(teleport/arcane wave/mist form)

Oh and i will report back after the patch has hit,
If ele actually has a surprisingly good few buffs (like conjure weapon buffing, throwing away and remaining to keep the buffs) added it might just tip me into believe anet does really care for the ele and wants to balance it instead of put it in a closet and forget about its entire fantasy lore existance.

its the easy way out, Elementalist is the class for the hardcores, NOT for the general public because its too hard to use.

So how does one fix it? nerf it to death so cassuals who notice doing no dmg stop playing ele and cassuals who dont notice it, wont get harmed because its a fun class to play.

Aka, if you like TOWNSCLOTHES BRAWLS?! go for ele! Its useless meaningless fun, with no reall goal except to just have FUN

Malcastus.6240:

In PvP people aren’t always silly enough to trample through your Unsteady Ground. Good players avoid it, from my experience. Now you can much more easily stop groups, create distance and potentially combine it with attacks.

You can dodge through the current Unsteady Ground, while you can’t with the new one, if it works as told. A huge difference.

Regarding what you said about superspeed. While you can’t outrun people, you can CC them before using it, giving you that extra mobility needed. Usually you don’t have to keep outrunning someone, but manage to get from A to B (your team, keep, etc.). That time you buy yourself, can be enough for x skill, heal or utility to go off CD. To me that means a lot in a fight, especially using staff or focus.

It looks like it has potential. We’ll see how it fares in testing tomorrow.

Good players indeed dodge roll once, and then twice … and then when they notice your running in a CIRCLE inside of it, theyr gonna get hit byt the cripple if theyr gonna try to fight you. im not saying run away, im saying run in circles inside it so the effect actually becomes effective.

3 seconds is too low, you will see it soon,

creating distance when your still one of the slowest moving classes is quite useless if your gonna get outrunned anyway. i dont really get how to combine 3 seconds with attacks when all attacks of my ele take atleast 30 seconds to recharge…, including this one…..

Chaosky.5276:

If you’re mostly interested in PvE, or maybe a support role in WvW, you’ll probably continue to enjoy the class. Just beware of solo PvP.

Just prepare to really have a select few things you can do because indeed sPvP is HELL for elementalist (in every wich way btw)

WvW youll ONLY run with the big blob zerg and cast fire 5 as the ONLY skill you have.
if you even get to that point without dying before you cast it because of no HP pool.
Oh and if your lucky you might defend a tower or 2 if you know howto hide yourself from any ranged HIGH dps class.

PvE (NOT counting dungeons or boss encounters) is good for staff ele, because you wont have to do anything and its pretty fun with a staff.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

My warrior doesn’t hit remotely close to anything my ele outputs even unbuffed. Either you’re blind or bad at math, or possibly both.

can you screenshot that then?
because id LOVE to see an ele do more dps then a warrior.

both full zerker pls. no meteor shower afkers.
because srsly, full ascended ZERKER trinket make me hit 900/1700? with my 1.

and my cassuall warrior roommate actually NO ascended gear outdpses on any mob he comes across. with 2k/3k hits each. +100blades wich do about 10K dmg each time they can be activated, every 5 seconds.

And just FYI, ill beat you in ANY 1v1 ele vs ele match with staff. 100% sure.

Talindra.4958:

guys it gives people who love to play staff a better option you dont have to play with if you dont like it. I personally like s/d ; d/d, d/f a lot more than staff.. but i do play staff when i need to in some situations. it really highly depends on player’s playstyle. not everyone can play the way you play your ele xD
i like to engage in action, some likes to stand further away to do their pew pew :P so u know its not a bad thing esp they improve the fast ground target thingy.. which i will try out and then provide my feedbacks later.

I am a sole staff user, ive mastered pretty much every skill to death on my staff since its the only thing i use to wvw, to dungeons, to metabosses and events, to running around in orr mining, pretty much everything. (this is because i used to use staff all day everyday in gw1 sentiment, playing spikey roles was the best!)

and i can tell you that my damage is nowhere near what hard tricks i try to pull of with constant might +6 close to any type of warrior dps.
I cant spike and i cant survive. So whats the point in trying?

In wvw i never get to actually kill someone cuz he just outruns me and my dps cant even come close to hitting something actually lethal.

If i chase beyond a tower i just…. die. to anything due to no survivability, since i have no health and no speed… even with the 1,5 faster speed thing it will most likely not get me anywhere further then .. those few meters further from the tower.

i just dont get it what im supposed to do anymore…

Player Character.9467:

Staff achieves some of the highest dps in the entire game by camping 2 skills… please stop complaining about staff dps.

Wich 2 skills are you talking about meteor shower and?..

Also what use is meteor shower if your not fully glass specced?
And if you are glass specced, what are you supposed to do after that cast?
die?
since there is nothing left for you to do, there is no quick combinations that make you do any OTHER decent type of damage, hell 1 on water probably has the lowest dps in the entire game.

You cannot run away because you are a slow class.
You cannot tank because you have no healthpool.
i dont get it? so we are supposed to just.. cast 5 all day long in the background?

And i also really wonder in what game mode your stating fire staff 5 has the highest DPS, because im 100% sure in wvw ppl just dont walk into it and if they do, they will get hit by maybe 1 meteor. its not an instant cast, instant kill. its not a fast paced dps with definite results, its a gimmicky slowcast spell to zone out ppl in wvw.

vs meta bosses it hits everything for sure, but what good is that when theres a zerg behind you anyway?

Quakeman.9378:

ErazorZ.5209:

Quakeman.9378:

Going full support ele is borderline pointless, so I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that ele is a “support” class from. My burning speeds hit as hard as my thief’s backstabs do. Ele is definitely not solely support.

Simply said they didnt buff staff and the AoE im doing is just too low to be even considered good.

what other reason is there for a staff user except the forced into support?

OH my bad thought you were talking about ele in general. In WvW at least, I’ve only used staff in large groups with full zerker gear on simply for the massive aoe damage. Meteor storm hurts like hell when you have 100% crit dmg and around 3.2k attack. But- you die beyond fast. I do see your point though, staff is pretty weak. It is okay for supporting, but the good support skills are on uber long cds, so doesn’t work quite too well. Staff definitely has issues. However it is fun massacring large groups of people with meteor storm I have to say. I think staff was probably designed to be more of a support weapon, and I see how unsatisfied you are with being forced into that role, it’s pretty stupid in many ways.

meteor shower is the only skill used as a staff user to do dmg, but in wvw people can just walk around it, or not even being hit once since the entire ‘aoe’ isnt constant on the entire patch of ground you cast it on.

Malcastus.6240:

Earth 4 was nigh useless before. Now it will be very valuable, despite the CD. Thanks Anet!

Man, there is a lot of whining going on here, even though noone has seen or tested the final changes yet. Don’t think there is enough cheese to go around, sadly.

Currently it looks good. The superspeed will be a great addition to burst builds. Who needs 20% shorter CDs or +10% damage in air, when you get a grand mobility buff, even with the short duration. It will be good for staff and focus eles, who are lacking in mobility.

A shame they didn’t give us all the details, but looks good for sure.

sadly, the earth 4 was PERFECT in 1v1ing melee classes, just run around on your 10 seconds lasting 4 and enemy would be constant crippled while you could maintain a great distance from the said attacker.

Also what do i like more a wall of 3 seconds to knock back some ppl in wvw vs big zergs or a 10 seconds wall wich cripples them all…

Its about how you use the skill. and just because its underused because people dont get it. doesnt mean as a die hard staff user using it in all sorts and forms that its bad.

oh and btw, the 1,5 speed boost really isnt enough to get away from classes wich actually still just outrun you except when you go full fresh air build.

Quakeman.9378:

Going full support ele is borderline pointless, so I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that ele is a “support” class from. My burning speeds hit as hard as my thief’s backstabs do. Ele is definitely not solely support.

Simply said they didnt buff staff and the AoE im doing is just too low to be even considered good.

what other reason is there for a staff user except the forced into support?

Talindra.4958:

well strong support makes a team stronger…

Yeah but how am i supposed to do that with a staff? stand on the sidelines and cast a few combos to give ppl some extra might?

i mean, if id be replaced for a guardian or warrior theyd get more dps out of them, so why get an ele ‘support’ at all. I just dont get it.

reikken.4961:

you clearly know nothing about support

Then enlighten me. Because i refuse to be a monk.

Axelifus.3269:

ErazorZ.5209:

wah.

Don’t forget to mail me your stuff.

ill wait 6 months till next balance patch is out, after that you can have my stuff.
got all the mats ‘supposedly’ needed for ascended armor completely saved up so far.

If im correct everyone has there own healing skills in this game.
there own choices in defense or offense, to mix and match what they need.

why does anet think we need support in this game at all, what for?

they watched too much league of legends lately?

And even if they did, everyone hates to play support there…
Just why?

Ele got nerfed. again. earth 4 is a nerf for a skilled player. 3 seconds wall for a 30 seconds cooldown? you have to be kidding me.

so ele already was the weakest class, now even weaker.

ele is terrible at the moment, dont get your hopes up, you have been bottlenecked into the worst class with worst weapon if you play ele staff. its useless, does 0 to no damage if you cannot combo field. and i wouldnt be surprised if eles will slowly start to get kicked out of groups due to there ineptness at all fields except healing, wich, in a reall party you wont need.

I have never posted on the forums, but the so called ‘ele buff’ is none existant.
They did it, they nerfed earth 4, it used to be a great fighting tool since people could get crippled for a LONGER THEN 3 second timeframe, making melee classes needing to chase you when slowed when you are 1v1ing. and dpsing them, now its a wall of 3 seconds, no crippling effect just a stolen ability with a long recharge time 3 sec active time and pretty much 0 worthwhile conditions are added in, they dont even have to use stunbreakers anymore.

And im here now to start complaining, as a staff ele.

We get no damage increase only a small radius increase on geyser wich most people run away from regardless. Support ISNT needed ever, in this game. i am not going to guide pugs around dungeons no matter how OP you make support. its boring, lame, and totally negates ele in general.

And the only ‘cool’ buff takes 1,5 seconds and will only really be viable in a fresh air build wich i definatly wont run on a staff.

I only play my main ele, no other classes because i simply find them no fun. But this kitten stuff about melee doing massive damage having huge survivability and the easiest to play ASWELL just sickens me.

wooptiedoo we get to cast weapons, melee.. weapons.
on an ele, on an elementalist.
on a mage-like class.
we get melee weapons…

where is my elementalist from gw1?
where is my sick dps?
where is it?

if there are no other extra buffs tomorrow you guys just lost an elementalist player and with that a guildwars2 player in general, a player playing for over 7 years of guildwars franchise. hoping for staff being viable in spvp or anywhere other then WvW where you spam fire 5. Noone needs a support class in this game only the worst kind of people who really dont understand guildwars 2 combat to begin with.

thanks for wasting my time with a so called ‘high dmg/high risk’ class wich is a straight up lie now.