Guild Wars 2

How do traveler runes stack with Time Marches On?

1. How fast do I travel out of combat? Is it just +33%?
2. If I’m in combat, is it just in-combat movement speed +33%?
3. What happens if I get chilled/crippled?
4. What happens if I have swiftness + chilled/crippled?

Haven’t WvW’d in a while in a long time so just seeing if I need to ditch my traveler runes…

Thanks

Crispy Fried Azukas.

Let me summarise this thread for you since your reflexes are insufficient and everything goes over your head (<3 Drax).

Azuka: Mesmer is OP!

Mesmer Community: No we are not – we are just a CS + Moa + Portal Bot

Azuka: No! We are OP because we can defend far/home whilst turning team fights

Mesmer Community: Yes – using CS + Moa + Portal

Azuka: No! It’s because we are OP and can we win all 1 v 1s

Mesmer Community: Yes – with CS + Moa. Without it we lose some, we win some.

Azuka: No! But you can just double Moa!

Mesmer Community: – face palm -

- Anet buffs Mesmer -

Azuka: See! Mesmer is so OP! Even Helseth says we need to nerf CS + Moa!

Mesmer Community: – double face palm -

haha yes! very entertaining :p

Was it this game?

https://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/61631445

00:22:30 – Game starts
00:30:50 – Must-watch-moment where Evan get’s moa’d…

yessssssssssssss sceptre buff woo! <3 anet

Azukas.1426:

LOL what’s funny is in that show where the pro players even stated that mesmer is the best 1v1 class in the game y’all ignore that. LOL

The only place where no one seems to know this is here on this sub forum, and moa + portal isn’t the only reason lol.

1. Moa on a ~60s cd is probably the main the reason we are the best in 1 v 1. Try 1 v 1 a good ranger or ele without moa and see what the outcome is..?
2. Everyone knows, including the pros, the game isn’t about 1 v 1 so this comment, regardless if it’s true or not, is irrelevant.
3. Pretty sure our role is to +1 fights and blow kitten up quickly (i.e. moa)

/thread x 2

Azukas.1426:

…decides team fight all the while keeping home safe or 1 enemy player honest at far.

Because of moa and portal.

Azukas.1426:

Fay.2357:

Azukas.1426:

What class in this meta has the advantage vs condi shatter? Please enlighten me…

Necromancer.

Double Moa says no.

Exactly! moa~

Reasons for using Mesmer:
- F5 + Moa
- Portal
- No class stacking

/thread.

Good idea/poll.

Would be nice if Anet just spoon fed us the results instead

SkyShroud.2865:

I have been wondering, how the hell you have 25 losing streak, the probability of that happening is really low. You sure it isn’t your problem? You sure you didn’t get to diamond out of pure luck?

I wondered that myself lol. It was definitely me in some of the games, others who knows but I did learn from it which was the main thing.

I crawled back up to T5 now so we’ll see where I go from there.

Geez someone sounds a little but hurt. So much negativity.

jessiestiles.9437:

Your advice is not going to miraculously lift you out of hell. Your point about baby sitting a 4v2 isn’t thought out. If the rest of your team can’t handle 40% of the opposition or less you are playing a 3v5 game and not going to win. Those 2 people they couldn’t handle will respawn in 7 seconds. Zuku (in the thread above) might play like a ninja but losing one player on their team ie 4v5 it’s suddenly a loss.

I’m not giving advice – I’m just sharing what I’ve learnt and 1v3 was an extreme example to show that maybe what you think is carrying isn’t actually carrying the team?

My post isn’t intended to lift you out of MMR hell, all I’m saying is I’m appreciating the losses because it’s taught me a lot more about the game that I hadn’t previously thought about.

jessiestiles.9437:

All your points have been raised before so you stole them. They aren’t relevant in your case because you don’t need to carry when the teams selected for you are stronger than the opposition. Your post is merely bragging.

Bragging? I dunno about you but I don’t consider having a 25-streak loss, being stuck in Diamond and sharing what I’ve learnt (despite still being stuck) to be bragging… lol

Stealing? grow up… that’s just like saying I learnt 1+1=2 is stealing from my maths teacher.

So much negativity!

Background info:
- climbed my way to Ruby really easy
- got stuck for a bit
- climbed to Diamond easily
- now stuck in Diamond bouncing between T5 and T1 for a few weeks now

TL:DR – New MM is harsh but allows you to learn from your mistakes and improve if you choose to accept that you only have yourself to blame. Blaming your team mates or MM isn’t going to get you anywhere.

I know there are a lot of complaints about the new MM system but I just wanted to highlight that due to the number of losses I’ve had (I had a 25 streak loss once), I think my gameplay has significantly improved. It’s actually a great way to learn how to carry/play better but only if you take the losses constructively and positively. It might be frustrating but I’m pretty sure that I’ve learn a lot more in season 2 than I have in the last 2 years of pvping in ranked queue/season 1 and there’s still plenty of room for me to improve

Obviously the MM system is not perfect but having a bunch of loss streaks isn’t that bad if you learn from them and improve yourself.

Few things I’ve learnt:

Slowdown and Rotate Properly
I use to think I was rotating properly but I needed to SLOWDOWN. It’s not until you slow down, pause for a bit and analyse the mini map do you actually learn to rotate properly. No point respawning and rushing to a point if you just end up being outnumbered or achieving nothing – be patient. Maybe once I get better, I can make rotation decisions on the fly like the big boys. Until then, slow the kitten down and think what your rotation will actually achieve compared to what you think you’re achieving?

Learn to look at mini map/team mates hp bar WHILST fighting and learn to read it BETTER
I’m not sure if I can speak for others but I use to only look at the mini map after I won a fight or had a clear advantage – most of the time this was too late. I also never looked at my parties hp bar because I was too focused on dpsing as a mesmer. This needed to change! When you’re fighting, do you actually know what’s happening on the other side of the map? Are your team mates winning or losing? Who is on the other side of the map and who are they fighting?

Winning your 1 v 1 or holding a point 1 v 2/3 doesn’t mean kitten
Even if you’re successfully doing the above, if your team mates are losing their fights, it pretty much means you’re not carrying. Even if you’re doing a fantastic job winning a 1 v 3, if your team mates are losing the 4 v 2 and losing the other points then you need to join the team fight to help them. It’s a team game so play more like a team and help them.

Learn to disengage
If you know you’re gonna lose, disengage. No point fighting a fight that you know you’re gonna lose eventually. I see a lot of players dying just to delay the point being capped – a few seconds delay is not gonna change much but your death will. Go +1 someone else or wait to regroup and try again. If you end up dying, chances are your team mates will respawn and they’ll trickle in 1 by 1 and die and die and die (there’s always that 1 guy). At least if you’re alive, you can help them/group with them.

MOST IMPORTANT: Realise your actual skill level – not everyone is meant to be in legendary
Once in a while you’ll fight a player and you’ll get completely destroyed and throughout the match, you see that player destroying everyone in your team – that’s exactly what it takes to get out of your “MMR Hell”. When you encounter such players, you realise that his team mates are almost irrelevant because he/she is clearly carrying the team.

That is all!

baylock.1703:

i love teleporting revenants to stupid places with portal my favorite is leave portal to mid run far when it happens ofc that there is revenant xDDD muhahaa let me just teleport revenant from far to mid to my friends and get freecap far xD

potentially wiping your team cos they just received a +1 hard dps and you’re now forced to “run” back after decapping (more time wasted).

better to just 1 v 1 the rev, win, decap and port back to mid to +1.

Thanks skcamcow / Ross – I’ll keep that in mind.

@Curunen – cool music… that’s very subjective :p haha

Fay.2357:

FLIMP.8172:

Hi All,

I’ve been playing my mesmer quite extensively lately but only in Ranked PvP and was wondering if people were interested in Ranked PvP videos?

Most mesmer videos I see are WvW so not sure if there are any interests for this. I might make one just to see what the response is but if there is anything in particular you’d like to see, please let me know

Cheers,
FLIMP

I think the difficulty with PvP videos is that they’re really difficult to make interesting at all. A PvP video gets sorta meaningless as a montage, since the very point of PvP is playing the game mode and winning, but actually watching a full PvP match is just boring in most cases.

You can certainly go ahead and try, but just be aware that there’s significant inherent difficulty in making a watchable ranked PvP video.

I agree 100%! A PvP montage would showcase the combat aspect where as showing a full match would showcase the map awareness/rotation aspect. It’s gonna be a tricky one… unless I add in commentary but it would have to be a VERY interesting game for it to be worth watching.

Thanks for your input Fay

MailMail.6534:

FLIMP.8172:

Hi All,

I’ve been playing my mesmer quite extensively lately but only in Ranked PvP and was wondering if people were interested in Ranked PvP videos?

Most mesmer videos I see are WvW so not sure if there are any interests for this. I might make one just to see what the response is but if there is anything in particular you’d like to see, please let me know

Cheers,
FLIMP

YES YES YES! You can add some editing here and there to spice things up.

Yes yes yes! okay. I’ll learn a few editing tricks for you :p

Hi All,

I’ve been playing my mesmer quite extensively lately but only in Ranked PvP and was wondering if people were interested in Ranked PvP videos?

Most mesmer videos I see are WvW so not sure if there are any interests for this. I might make one just to see what the response is but if there is anything in particular you’d like to see, please let me know

Cheers,
FLIMP

It’s bad enough that can’t do ANYTHING except kill dummies in the HOTM.

Now you can’t even rotate the camera using your mouse when the queue pops…

This is not allowed to be on page 2.

Please bring back the original MtD. I don’t want to play a super passive mesmer spamming staff 1 1 1 1 1 50% of the time…

Your mouse has 2 camera functions.

Left click gives you free rotation of the camera without moving your character (sort of unlinks the camera with the character). Right click rotates the camera WITH your character.

When you click on the ground to deselect your enemy, you’ve switched your camera mode to the free rotation mode. This causes about face to rotate your character but not the camera cos it’s now “unlinked”. You need to right click to lock the camera with your character again and then do your forward phase retreat.

+1. Revert to 2 stacks of torment please.

1 stack is just far too weak… it does nothing.

Arantheal.7396:

Is it just me or did you not do any dmg while people around you decided your fights for you? Most grenades were missing, and the few that hit were not even slightly stacking up the condi-pressure you’d need…

I mean, no offense, it looks like a nice supporter build for the backline in zergs, but I guess you’d get eaten up in solo-roaming…

The one occasion where you were fighting 2 enemies on your own, welp they’d never got down without them being stupid enough to stay at your dropped supply-crate. Basically all you depend on is to keep your enemy ranged to you, but without having at least one other player distracting them, this builds seems not being able to work with you.

My recommendation would be to take bombkit / toolkit or – better – both with you to have the survivability and pbaoe pressure you need in order to make this build viable.

[Edit] Just checked the clip again, and actually you seem to have the toolkit with you. Sadly you make rarely use of it, which would explain why you have that much problems with people closing in to you. You seem to have a solid base build-wise, but you should really improve on situational awareness and your own cooldowns.

Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated. I know there’s still heaps of room for improvement so still trying.

I found that with the bomb kit, I had a lot of problem with people ranging me as it relied a bit on having terrain, i.e. being able to LoS, knock people off edges, making them chase you etc. Grenade kit felt a bit more versatile? Although the bomb kit does provide more utility, I felt the grenade kit to be a better “all-rounder”.

This build works fine for me 1 v 1, 1 v 2 – but anymore and I usually do get eaten up quite quickly unless I have terrain on my side. But as I said, I still have lots of room for improvement

When you say more use of the tool kit, can you elaborate a bit more? Am I using the block at the wrong time? Should I be using the pull more effectively?

sorry <3 being able to AOE is too much fun~

FYI – Mesmer’s taking a rest atm buttttttttt I’ve made an Engi pvp video for those that are interested

Hi guys,

Some pvp footage of me roaming in duo/trio in WvW!
Definitely room for improvement… Enjoy

Video
FLIMP PvP Vol.10 – Engineer

Build
FLIMP’s Piercing Nades: http://tinyurl.com/flimppiercingnade

Steve Whitley.8359:

Locuz.2651:

Tbh they shouldve given us a charge for every skin we unlocked.

x2

x3

Valarauka.2719:

The point of roaming isn’t to just wander around and look for single enemies to kill – that doesn’t really benefit your server.

When you roam, you want to cap camps (any good roamer should be able to solo a non-upgraded camp), kill yaks and sentries, report on enemy zerg movements, and watch for swords on friendly nearby towers so you can run in to man siege and call for backup if needed.

During the course of all of that, you’ll often run into enemy players doing the same thing, that’s when you fight them.

That’s not necessarily true… plenty of people simply roam for pvp without touching any camps or “helping” the server out. What you’re defining is havoc-ing I think?

^
“X – healed with 2 clones”

Are you saying mesmers ALWAYS have to heal with 3 clones? Cos I’m pretty sure you’d die pretty often – especially if you’re playing a shatter build.

IGN: Flimpy
Server: Sanctum of Rall
Time: Oceanic night time
Playstyle: WvW/PvP
Role: Scholar (?) (willing to tutor but don’t really want to organise events)

I’m on SOR at the moment

Thanks for the warm welcome guys

@WitchKing – unfortunately, that wasn’t intentional… didn’t want to emphasize the fact that I didn’t dodge / avoid it :p (it was pretty cool though!)

@Imagi – no……… but that was day 1! I have an excuse

FLIMPY is BACK! That is all >:D

Added Volume 9 – Condition Build (WvW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgkW0iPujNQ

Hey Jossa / Everyone,

Sorry but I’ve quit the game

Life is keeping me busy (in a good way!) and I no longer have time for games haha

Thanks to everyone who subscribed and followed/supported me! Was much appreciated.

All the best to all the mesmers out there and keep rocking

yeh this happens to me sometimes as well. stupid bug

Explains why I see minions pop all the time and have no idea why lol.

And my friends use to laugh and say you noob, it’s not yours. It’s someone else’s ._.

I think you should update the title of this topic every time there’s a new podcast.

Something like “[Mesmerized] Updated: 8th May – Seven Mirror” and have the new video at the top of the page under “new” or something.

Oh and episode numbers might help too

Refer to my forum topic in my signature to see what I mean. Might help?

GL!

Here’s some rude feedback for you:

1. If he said it’s a “bad link”, it means he didn’t see the build. How do you provide feedback on a build you didn’t see?

2. You don’t have any runes/sigils in the build link – heck you were too lazy to even put on armour. Saying you run 100% bezerker is not enough detail if you want to provide a “build” for someone to follow/use.

3. What kind of build are you exactly?! You’re not a shatter mesmer, you’re not a phantasm, you’re not a condition mesmer, you’re not even a bunker. Which leads on to….

4. Where’s your damage coming from if you’re mostly on sceptre/torch? You spamming 1 1 1 1 1 1, a bugged i-bezerker and your i-mage throwing confusion with high power, crit dmg & fury for massive damage?

5. I can also dance around a zerg. So can thieves. What’s your point? Can you kill?

6. If it’s meant to be some sort of guide for your BUILD, go into more detail about HOW your BUILD works. The only thing you talked about was how to deal with a thief which was to go into stealth or block a few seconds after they go into stealth. Great job Einstein – you just taught the Mesmer community something new (that was sarcasm by the way)

7. Change your topic title – you aint killing no zerg with that build.

Rude feedback for rude players. Enjoy

It’d be nice if you could provide a link to your build at the very top

I suggest: http://intothemists.com

selan.8354:

FLIMP.8172:

selan.8354:

FLIMP.8172:

Confusion is still fine (if you’re not a glamour mesmer, I have no opinion on this cos I don’t play ZvZ). I’m still able to beat people easily… it’s slower but it still works.

Like the op stated, it’s not a faceroll build anymore – you need to time your confusion. Sceptre sucks though.

@People who say “If confusion is so good and is fine, why do people not run confusion builds in spvp”. The reason they don’t is because it sucks in conquest game mode. It’s far too slow – spvp/tpvp is about being able to move fast, kill fast, or survive for a long period of time. Confusion builds tend to do none of those (unless you rely on stealth but that doesn’t help cap points)

Flimp check out wvw in a higher tier and then come back and comment spvp is nothing like wvw!

I am on Tier 1… and I agree it’s completely different? What’s your point lol

then u should know that certain builds are not useful in spvp but useful in wvw. and a lot of builds are great forspvp but useless in wvw.

Yes. We’re on the same side buddy

I said confusion builds (my one at least) works in WvW but sucks in sPvP.

selan.8354:

FLIMP.8172:

Confusion is still fine (if you’re not a glamour mesmer, I have no opinion on this cos I don’t play ZvZ). I’m still able to beat people easily… it’s slower but it still works.

Like the op stated, it’s not a faceroll build anymore – you need to time your confusion. Sceptre sucks though.

@People who say “If confusion is so good and is fine, why do people not run confusion builds in spvp”. The reason they don’t is because it sucks in conquest game mode. It’s far too slow – spvp/tpvp is about being able to move fast, kill fast, or survive for a long period of time. Confusion builds tend to do none of those (unless you rely on stealth but that doesn’t help cap points)

Flimp check out wvw in a higher tier and then come back and comment spvp is nothing like wvw!

I am on Tier 1… and I agree it’s completely different? What’s your point lol

kylia.4813:

FLIMP.8172:

Confusion is still fine (if you’re not a glamour mesmer, I have no opinion on this cos I don’t play ZvZ). I’m still able to beat people easily… it’s slower but it still works.

Like the op stated, it’s not a faceroll build anymore – you need to time your confusion. Sceptre sucks though.

@People who say “If confusion is so good and is fine, why do people not run confusion builds in spvp”. The reason they don’t is because it sucks in conquest game mode. It’s far too slow – spvp/tpvp is about being able to move fast, kill fast, or survive for a long period of time. Confusion builds tend to do none of those (unless you rely on stealth but that doesn’t help cap points)

In reply to your comment about slowness and how in spvp you need it to be fast… Your statement implies that you do not need this speed in WvW…

…WvW is also about killing fast.. infact the better the oppposing server (more communication, more players able to support), the more important speed of kill is, as reinforcements from the enemy side is the timer you are competing against.

Yes you need it but not as much as in tpvp (lets ignore spvp). Like I said before, this is from a small scale perspective and not ZvZ

When I’m fighting in tpvp backup is just around the corner. You know for a FACT that they will come within 15 seconds ~ 1 minute. You either need to kill fast to avoid that back up, move fast to provide backup/escape from a lost fight or survive long enough to get your own back up whilst staying on point.

Unlike tpvp, no one is gonna call on VOIP/map chat and go “help 1 mesmer is killing me at insert <remote location>”. If they do, 90% of the time they’ll get ignored or backup will not arrive in a timely manner since the map is huge. The 10% who do make it are usually guildies, party members or random people who are nearby which leads on to the next point:

Your fights are hardly even – you’re usually outnumbered 80% of the time. The faster you kill, the less survivability you have. This means as the scale of “being outnumbered” rises, you as a glass canon become less viable. On average, it’s usually 1 v 3 or 4 and you’ll need something more balanced (not a bunker and not a glass canon) – mesmer condition/confusion builds (or my one at least) tend to fall in that category. Killing fast is great but not at the cost of dying quickly after.

Confusion is still fine (if you’re not a glamour mesmer, I have no opinion on this cos I don’t play ZvZ). I’m still able to beat people easily… it’s slower but it still works.

Like the op stated, it’s not a faceroll build anymore – you need to time your confusion. Sceptre sucks now though.

@People who say “If confusion is so good and is fine, why do people not run confusion builds in spvp”. The reason they don’t is because it sucks in conquest game mode. It’s far too slow – spvp/tpvp is about being able to move fast, kill fast, or survive for a long period of time. Confusion builds tend to do none of those (unless you rely on stealth but that doesn’t help cap points)

Hey! Glad you’re enjoying my vids

Yes, my shatter build is quite squishy but not in a 1 v 1 situation. It’s more of a 1 v 3+ where it starts to hurt (relative to other tankier builds).

If you want to improve on the shatter build or make it tankier, Osicat has a massive guide on various shatter builds. I’d recommend having a browse through that

In terms of confusion, I’d swap out sceptre for sword – I think it’s pretty useless now lol

Hey guys. Hope you’re all well!

Just thought I’d pop by and let you guys know what I think of the upcoming confusion nerf. Had quite a few PM’s so I thought I’d just post it here for those using my build…

Confusion as a condition is NOT op. It does decent damage, doesn’t last very long and a big purple bubble pops up to tell you you’re taking confusion damage.

HOWEVER, confusion from a mesmer IS op due to the fact that there are so many ways to apply it and it’s AOE. When you can do 30k+ damage in a few seconds across a group, I think it’s a bit too much…

There have been discussions around single vs aoe skills and the conclusion (and a very logical one) was that aoe skills should not do more than single target skills which is fair. Confusion damage just did too much as an AOE given how often you could reapply. It’s not like a Necro’s Power well where once you miss you go “OH kitten I totally screwed up” but more like “oh well, just need to wait a few seconds to try again”.

Toning it down by 50% will make definitely hurt the build but it just means you can’t blow someone up in a few seconds if they are a button spammer. You can still win but it’s not gonna be as good and it’s definitely gonna take longer. With this change, you will need to focus more on timing and “bomb” them with large stacks instead of spreading them out.

People have said if it’s still good, why dont you use in tPvP? It’s because it’s not suited for conquest gameplay. It CAN be viable if it’s tweaked but as the build stands now, the reliance on stealth makes it a kitten bunker and its offensive capabilities are far too slow.

Hope that helped…

+1. Great post hahahaha

Thisssssssssssssssss

Dawdler.8521:

Crit chance “decently high”? DPS specced in PvP?!?!

Ya there’s your problem.

what? DPS spec is perfectly fine.

@OP – go to Osicat’s guide on thieves.

Also, stick with pistol and don’t change to focus as recommended above. You’re a phantasm build which means you need your iDuelist who’ll rip into your thief as soon as he pops out of stealth.

- Save your pistol #5 to interrupt his heal.
– Follow it up with a daze shatter to interrupt his heal again (which will 90% of the time, occur roughly 3s after the interrupt)
– Save your GS #5 to knock him out of refuge or for another heal interrupt (this one is situational)

Oh, and use bezerker not knight. You need more damage

jportell.2197:

Ostricheggs.3742:

do you not understand?

It’s like as if I was calling backstab thieves overpowered because they have too much survivability, so much that they rival eles and guards.

Even if you think backstab thieves are overpowered, wouldn’t you call me out on it?

That’s what I’m doing to you.

We are not amazing bombadiers

yes you are… Tons of might stacking through sigils of battle and HGH plus elixir B in 2 separate forms which gives you the ability to have quite a long uptime on fury add that in with the condition damage from things like shrapnel grenade which grants bleeding the most passively damaging condition in this game you become way scarier and harder to deal with than BS thieves… BS thieves have limited access to boons but still get high damage… You have tons of access to boons high damage and survivability… Plus the traits for this build just work way to well giving you damage bonuses left and right….

What he’s trying to say is YES, HGH engineers are OP but NOT because they can stand far away and lob grenades. If an engineer is standing from afar and just throwing grenades on point then he’s not really playing as effectively as he could and would hardly be considered OP. If the enemy is moving around alot and you’er trying to aim your grenades from a long distance, it takes forever for the grenades to land and chances are you’ll miss your target.

On the other hand, someone who stands there watching these slow-mo grenades drop on them will die regardless of whether they have 25 stacks of might or not.

Also, high survivability…? no.

Great podcast. Enjoyed it

Hey! Sorry for the lack of updates, I’ve resigned my WvW mesmer :p

I’ve started TPVP again since the leaderboards and MMR system is out though I’m playing as an engineer now haha. I also play my mesmer here and there (in tpvp) so maybe i’ll fraps that and make another video. It’s a bit hard since there aren’t many 1v1’s in tpvp, mostly team fights which isn’t very fun to watch? we’ll see I guess

Seems like the ranking is very volatile – lost 4 solo queue matches and went from rank 3XX to off the board lol

very very nice good job!

Anet is hiring! Game Designer for GW2?

“RESPONSIBILITIES:
Work with the design team to understand the game’s content and design tools. Collaborate with the interdepartmental teams to ensure the very highest quality of product. Participate in planning the design, building game areas, events, NPCs, writing dialogue, and design documentation. "

http://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH05/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=NCSOFT&cws=1&rid=1354

Apply and say you’ll work for the PvP content for free? haha