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Added volume 7!! I think it might be one of my favourite ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVx6FWuWYjk
Enjoy!
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Thanks for adding mine up
Cheers.
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I’m BACKKKKKKKKKKK! Added Vol.6! Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nrvw7ue9D8
@Dan – Thanks Dan
@Palu – It’s all about condition management – lots of running, decoying, blinking and when things get hectic and i’ve got too many, that’s when I use my mass invis with lyssa runes to clear all conditions. I’m also using -40% condition duration food so that helps too! Hope that helps you
@Cytomatrix – Yeh, no more gangnam hahaha though I did find a good remix lately… :p It’s hard to record in-game music because I play music when I play and that get’s caught in the recording as well… unless you know a way. Other option is to have a separate computer/laptop/sound system playing music but that’s too inconvenient :/
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Cheers Osi! Home server is Stormbuff Isle but I’m server hopping for some vareity/fun with a few friends. Currently on… Eradon’s Terrace or something. Doubt I’ll bump into you either Osi. Maybe Nero if I ever transfer to his tier haha
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just make a level 2, go to heart of mist and moa each other! lol
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:O ahhhhh so sceptre 1 does have a use! There we go.
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Haha. Welcome to the world of fun.
Careful though, you might not want to go back Nero :p I know I didn’t haha
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Thanks for this. Good info
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lol. There’s been a lot of these lately…
You can try my build if you want – links in my signature along with videos. Volume 5 and 4 are my condition build videos.
anything else go to Osicat’s shatter cat guide!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat
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lol. I’m sure I could if I zoomed in and panned my camera up haha :p
But I guess that’s the whole buggy LoS issue everyone’s been complaining about for a while. Who knows when it’ll be fixed…
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Why is everyone so down on the Mesmer forums today? At any rate, I actually DO have a great time in WvW, whether I’m yanking people off of walls in a siege with my always on focus, or throwing Wardens into the Gate, or destroying Cannons
Because it’s dam boring playing a mesmer when sieging. I want to kill people on walls as well – not just walls, gates and canons and things that don’t move. That’s pretty much PvE (yuck) and I didn’t come to WvW to do that. Heck, with a condition build I can’t even do that lol.
All they really need to do is fix the Los issue. If I see you, I should be able to kill you.
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Overall, 2 main things for success in WvW imo is to be able to get out when you need to and to be able to stomp when you down someone. Persona can help but not as much as the block / +1 second duration in stealth.
Illusionary Persona serves different purposes. It’s an additional source of damage, and also utility. A full extra second of Distortion or instant point-black Daze is always invaluable in the right situation, including stomps.
Yup. You’re 100% correct.
Having started with the persona trait initially in my shatter build, I took it for granted and it took a while to adjust to not having instant daze/distortion. I still haven’t gotten 100% use to it but as a ranged condition tank WvW roamer, I think Pu has more value and synergy than persona.
I think my biggest challenge is learning to be aware of the positioning of my clones, predicting the enemy’s action and timing my daze taking into consideration the time it takes for the clone to run over. I hardly use daze and it’s something I’m working on, on top of pressing staff 4 more often haha.
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Hey Flimpy, could you make your videos available to mobile devices?
Oh and how does this build compare to the 0/20/20/0/30 Condition-Shatter build?
Oh Sorry, didn’t see this post. Can’t make them available to mobile cos of music copyright issues :S Youtube seems to have a strict policy on music… Volume 3 and 5 are available cos 3 is a remix and 5 is not mainstream music I guess.
In regards to the 0/20/20/0/30, key difference is Prismatic Understanding. I absolutely love PU with the amount of stealthing I do, it really helps with heal/skill cooldowns and especially when stomping.
PU also has great synergy with this build. With high toughness, signet of inspiration, illusionary membrane? (the one that gives protection from regen?) lyssa runes, chaos storm and chaos armour, you’ll find that you’ll have a lot of protection, regen and block popping up.
Getting the 25 trait in chaos is also good since you have high toughness and 5% of your toughness is roughly… 80~90 condition damage.
0/20/20/0/30 is also a good build and you’d be getting that only for persona and the might stacking. Persona is great in all builds but I think PU would be better for my style of fightining or for small scale WvW.
Overall, 2 main things for success in WvW imo is to be able to get out when you need to and to be able to stomp when you down someone. Persona can help but not as much as the block / +1 second duration in stealth.
Hope that helps!
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Get a mesmer friend, moa him, find out skills 1 to 3. Then get him to moa you and find out skills 4 and 5.
Do it soyboy!
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I want to know!
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Haha yeh. The funny thing is you can tell from the start whether the enemy is a button spammer or not and whether they’re gonna blow themselves up on confusion xD
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FLIMP plays an awesome build utilising it:
I bet he will answer you here.
If you are coming from 20/20/0/0/30, that trait is most likely not worth anything.
But if you already have 20 or 25 for the Staff CD / a condition build the points don’t hurt that much.The buffs are great in stealth, since you can get hit in stealth.
Now I have no choice but to :p
Pristmatic Understanding is only really good for WvW or SPvP but pretty crap in TPvP mainly because you can’t hold a point in stealth.
In WvW the blocks/protection + high toughess allows you to take a lot of hits which works really well with confusion. The +1 second in stealth gives you more time to position yourself as well or hide whilst you wait for your cd’s. Overall, it’s a great buff for WvW or SPvP.
For TPvP though, you’re better off putting the 10 traits into Illusionary Persona or some other major trait than PU.
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I don’t really care about the nerf of the buff they gaves us in pvp we do a lot of damage but the 0.25 fix* makes me now to be able to react on a thief with using all my shatters 0.75 later.
Might be no problem for some with slow reactions but when i saw a thief coming i was ready to shatter him with F4 and F3 with 0 clones needed as illusionary persona triat shatter yourself so stoping his burst imediatly and could use F1 With Mirror images+Decoy.
Now i have to w8 that half second or more to do that and the thief needs like 1 sec to kill me as glass canon mesmer Basilisk+Steel+CnD combo and instant Backstab how many seconds he needs to do that? 1sec?
He just use a broken animation combo and do imediatly a 17k or more damage in 1 sec.
How to manage staying alive from that?
Yes you could with very good reflexes but know the game removes that for me it makes me 0.75 slower to react so it’s not a good fix.
I am just saying that it makes me react slower with no chance to react faster now.
Who ever saw me stream they know i am not a macro user but very high reflexes.
So i am pannished for that atm.
Mesmers are OP all know that and i was saying it all day and it is bad to say that he isn’t but we trade the armor and the survivalbility for that amount of damage as thief do and as glass canon warriors do.We can manage a lot with portal’s,stealth,teleports but we are glass canons a good burst with no cds on mesmer is death.
Hope they will fix fast the exploit with the shatter and remove the 0.25 fix they added.I just talk about thief as example to see what this GCD is doing on high reflexes people.
Sorry but your argument doesnt make sense to me…
1. Assuming it’s a 1 on 1, you shouldn’t be using F3 and F4 at the same time against a thief – that’s just silly :p
2. “Thief can do 17k damage in 1s, how to survive?” has nothing to do with the 0.25s GCD if you time your F4 or F3.
3. Hitting mirror images + decoy + shatter would probably take you 0.25s
4. If a thief got you by surprise just after you used another shatter skill, the average human reaction time is 0.2s + internet delay + time for you to move your fingers would be roughly 0.25s
The only problem I see with this is if you’re against multiple players e.g. you know 100% you’re gonna die if you dont pop F4 cos the enemy team is focusing on you but at the same time you want to daze another enemy who’s about to stomp your team mate. In this case, the 0.25s would be very crucial and there’s been plenty of times where 0.25s was all that was needed to rez or stomp someone – but it’s temporary and it’s not so bad so live with it
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Good stuff. Especially the teamwork involved
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A Sigil is an item slotted on YOUR weapon and therefore triggers off your attacks whilst clones phantasms are just illusions. Mesmers do not have the ability to conjure such powerful stones.
Howzat for logic/imagination!
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Yeh. Definitely drop 10 in chaos for persona in tpvp. No need for prismatic understanding. Persona would be alot more valuable…
This was my semi bunker build back when i use to tpvp. Didnt use it much though as I had 2 good bunkers in my team already. Try it out and let me know how it is
http://www.tinyurl.com/flimptpvpcond
edit: oh and try to combo the duelist with null field/chaos storm
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Hey Flimp, I just wanted to stop by here again to thank you for the build. I attempted a condition damage mesmer before, but failed at the build. This is the first condition damage build I have seen work so amazingly… I was even able to solo a D/D bunker, which I never thought would be possible for me. I let him go since i was trebbing though.
No problem! Glad you got something out of my vids/build haha. Haven’t tried it in tPvP but I can imagine it being quite useful as a trebber since invis can be used (in contrast to invis on point)
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1200 range to create the clone if you have engaged an enemy. If you are further away the illusion wont spawn.
Ahhh. That makes sense!!!!! Thanks a lot!!
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Great vids, Flimpy! First off, happy New Year! Also, thanks for the education – you’re a credit to mesmers. I actually got to face you during this killfest of yours (I remember being completely out of my league lol), and my goal is to be that good someday. Absolutely amazing, well done.
Haha cheers buddy. Happy new year to you too!
You’ll get there, just keep pvping in small groups and keep trying to fight zergs. You’ll eventually find your limit and know when to get out and when to stay to fight.
Recording your fights and watching them also helps especially in those moments where you died and you had no idea why. For example, the ending scene for my latest clip haha. I was like WHAT!?!?!? What just happened??! hahahah
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Haha thanks guys!
Moddo has the gist of it. Never go in the same direction as you were going. unless the player has 3 monitors setup, its easy to get into the enemies’ blind spot
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What? You guys dont make sense.
“go play spvp”
If i fight 5 people in spvp and 1 dies, assuming the 4 other ppl are “smart”, im not gonna be able to stomp the 1 I just killed.
“ele/engineer would win, not the side with more numbers”
Exactly. You win with numbers, not skill, reinforcing OP’s point. And Ele? Eng? Say what??
“wvw is about team tactics and strategies”
Yes, but none of those of strategies should revolve around rezing someone in a downstate…
If I can kill 5+ people by myself, then let me do it. I shouldnt be hoping that the players are dumb/ignoring their downed teammates for me to win.
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Last post got deleted because apparently I was trolling… so I renamed the topic
FLIMPY & VERTHRAGNA’s WvW Domination Vol.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0X4Tr8uUfA
Some 2 man footage over 2 days on Eredon Terrace against ze ZERGS of Ferguson’s Crossing and Kaineng. The video’s ALOT longer than my usual ones but the fights are much larger in scale and requires alot of running and what not… not really a skill showcase but more for entertainment
Featuring:
Flimpy – Lv80 Mesmer
Verthragna – Lv80 Thief
Also check out my other videos (especially volume 3) for some solo Mesmer footage!
http://www.youtube.com/user/FLIMPvideos
Subscribe, Like & Enjoy!
- FLIMP
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I’ve been playing a mesmer since beta weekends too and I’ve loved it from the start and still love playing it now.
I hated levelling as a mesmer, but I hate PvE full stop so regardless of the class, I would have hated it. Ended up quitting the game for a while because I was too lazy to level and tournaments got repetitive.
Having said that, I later reached level 80 due to a friend who sponsored me and I’m now having a ball in WvW running solo or in a small group. Mesmers are a great class and you’ll have fun with it once you find a build that suits your play style and there are MANY play styles as a mesmer imo.
You can check out my vids if you want – maybe they MIGHT inspire you? lol
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Absolutely! Think of how long 2 seconds is when you’re stunned/rooted and getting hammered – 6 seconds could save your life. With the reduction in CD, it also makes it easier for you to rotate between decoy, prestige and mass invis.
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I know!!!! I keep forgetting hahahaha. Everytime I’m editing I just stare at it thinking “why have I not used it”. Sometimes I’m trying to hide but :’(
And thanks
Should be fun!
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Added some footage on Eredon Terrace against ze ZERGS of Ferguson’s Crossing and Kaineng. The video’s ALOT longer than my usual ones but the fights are much larger in scale and requires alot of running and what not… not really a skill showcase but more for entertainment
Featuring:
Flimpy – Lv80 Mesmer
Verthragna – Lv80 Thief
I’ll be going to Vietnam & Korea for a holiday and will be back in Feb so no videos til then! Any korean fans want to be my tour guide in Korea?
Meanwhile, you can check out my other videos (especially volume 3) if you get bored!
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oh i feel loved <3
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This was my bunker build when I still played tpvp. You won’t be killing anyone though lol
You can swap the shatter = remove condition for shatter = heal and replace mimic with null field if you want.
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Blink works if you can WALK to the point. If the path requires you to JUMP to get there, you cannot blink there. Example, in kyhlo, you can blink up the ramps and the roof from below
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I’d go with Rabid. If you’re gonna put 20 into dueling, best choice would be to get Rabid.
Crit = more vigor = more dodges = more survivability
Crit = bleed for illusions + sigil of earthEven if you plan on shattering alot, you’ll be able to generate alot of clones simply with staff 2 (X trait on Chaos) and rolling so the precision will still help.
In regards to toughness vs vitality, I prefer toughness because it’s a better stat over long fights since heals heal for “more” when you have higher toughness (unless you’re against a pure condition build). Also, toughness has great synergy with 25 in chaos and undead runes if you plan on running those, as well as crystals since its 6% from tough and only 4% from vit…
Hope that helps. Here’s my build if you’re interested:
Flimp’s Condition Buildand my vids if you want to see it in action (vol.5).
Flimp’s PvP VideosYour links don’t work for me.
Oops! Sorry, fixed links… Thanks for the pickup!
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I’d go with carrion. If you’re gonna put 20 into dueling, best choice would be to get carrion.
You mean Rabid, of course.
Oh yes, Rabid! My bad hahaha fixed
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I’d go with Rabid. If you’re gonna put 20 into dueling, best choice would be to get Rabid.
Crit = more vigor = more dodges = more survivability
Crit = bleed for illusions + sigil of earth
Even if you plan on shattering alot, you’ll be able to generate alot of clones simply with staff 2 (X trait on Chaos) and rolling so the precision will still help.
In regards to toughness vs vitality, I prefer toughness because it’s a better stat over long fights since heals heal for “more” when you have higher toughness (unless you’re against a pure condition build). Also, toughness has great synergy with 25 in chaos and undead runes if you plan on running those, as well as crystals since its 6% from tough and only 4% from vit…
Hope that helps. Here’s my build if you’re interested:
Flimp’s Condition Build
and my vids if you want to see it in action (vol.5).
Flimp’s PvP Videos
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It’s only Dec 24th!
Depends on what part of the world you live in I reckon
Yup. I’m from Aus :p
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Added Volume 5
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Thanks for linking my vid Slic :p
Was wondering why I was getting more views on Vol.3 hahaha
ON TOPIC:
SLIC IS A BEAST. nuff said
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PU doesn’t extend the stealth duration by 1 second (which can be a good or bad thing depending on your situation) but you still get the buffs from it.
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And your confusion build instead relies on cooldowns to do any damage at all— you have to use glamours and jump through all the hoops to spike a confusion stack, and 12 stacks of confusion is not something you can do often either.
No offense but this argument is pretty stupid – all classes rely on cooldowns to do any damage. Also, confusion build doesnt necessarily mean using glamours and or that crap – it could simply mean using a torch/sceptre and using cry of frustration more often than mind wrack.
My shatter mesmer can just switch out berserker gear for pow/tough/precision jewels and pow/tough/vit gear and still do more sustained damage and consistent burst than a confusion mesmer while gaining survivability.
Now you’re changing your argument and no longer talking about your “bezerker shatter build” and you can’t have a “consistent burst” – it just doesn’t make sense unless by consistent you mean reliable since confusion relies on their enemy to blow themselves up then yes, I agree with you here)
The majority of your stats come from your gear, and the mesmer’s survivability comes from them as traits don’t offer that much in survivability compared to my bunker elementalist who can pretty much permanently keep all boons on himself up just by speccing 30 arcana and 30 water for easy condition removal and high healing.
Whoop-dee-doo, a mesmer can just give 3-4 secs of protection to himself every 15 seconds. My elementalist can give himself and allies 7 seconds of protection every 10 seconds, permanent regen kept up every 10 seconds, and with Zephy’s Boon I can also share my auras that give them all fury for 10+ seconds.
Mesmer traiting outside damage specs is absolute garbage. We got Vigorous Revelations and lower cd, longer lasting glamours. That’s as far as mesmer support and survival increasing utilities go.
You’ve sort off gone off topic here and arguing about other things. What I’m trying to say is, a glass canon has the term glass for a reason – you’re squishy. If someone goes a confusion build (which naturally means they are going to equip condition gear), they are going to have more survivability, simply because they would have more toughness/vitality from their gear and be traited more defensively.
And you’re probably thinking “pfft this guy’s a noob who doesn’t know how to play a bezerker shatter build and QQ’s cos he dies in a few seconds”. I’ve been playing that build since the game was released (and I still play it here and there ontop of my condition/confusion mesmer) and I know exactly the pros and cons of the build and if you don’t believe me, you can watch my videos…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLnoZj_5lfQ
We’ve gone off topic here so I’m gonna leave this as my last response to you. If you disagree, we’ll agree to disagree
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But you die in a few seconds when your cds are down and confusion mesmers dont.
Offhand sword, decoy, and Illusionary Wave+ Deceptive Evasion say otherwise.
Confusion mesmers are absolute garbage, particularly in PvE and DE. If you think your confusion mesmer does anything meaningful in a dungeon, you need to get real.
I think you missed the point where I said “when your cds are down”. Between your glass canon and a confusion mesmer, confusion mesmers have way more survivability. Ive played both builds and confusion does plenty of damage when timed correctly.
Edit: this is in wvw btw – i dont pve so i cant comment on that aspect
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But you die in a few seconds when your cds are down and confusion mesmers dont.
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i’d say its balance… we (mesmers) are nearly impossible to kill. now imagine other classes couldn’t even run away from us… it would be too easy and boring.
How does this balance concept work for thieves?
Killing a perma-stealth thief is next to impossible, but …
When was the last time you successfully ran away from a thief?
When was the last time you successfully killed a thief who wanted to run away?Or was your comment trying to be ironic?
Today. Yesterday and every other day I’ve been in WvW… You’ve never done any of the above…?
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Hello!
I AM BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! That is all
- FLIMP
Youtube Channel:
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N E W :
Volume 11 – Mesmer (WvW)
https://youtu.be/UDHy7r0btJA
B U I L D S:
Flimp’s WvW Chrono Build (3rd May 2016):
http://tinyurl.com/flimpchrono
V I D E O S :
Volume 1 – Shatter Build (sPvP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBRyJZGrAY
Volume 2 – Shatter Build (WvW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS37XKTRS24
Volume 3 – Shatter Build (WvW) <— My favourite!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLnoZj_5lfQ
Volume 4 – Condition Build (WvW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gby3_TtehCM
Volume 5 – Condition Build (WvW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv6tSfNpWs0
Volume 6 – Condition Build (WvW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nrvw7ue9D8
Volume 7 – Condition Build (WvW) <— My 2nd favourite!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVx6FWuWYjk
FLIMP & VERTHRAGNA’s WvW Domination Vol.1 – VERY LONG VIDEO! sorry haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0X4Tr8uUfA
Volume 8 – Condition Build (WvW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzlIkRzN3oA
Volume 9 – Condition Build (WvW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgkW0iPujNQ
Volume 10 – Engineer (WvW)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF-NaI0t0k4&feature=youtu.be
M I N I – V I D E OS :
STOMP OF THE YEAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVIVkcvrpcw
A Troll’s Cave:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEyBGZc1kG8
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Hey osi! Keep up the good work!
Just pointing something out, you can do exactly what you said above in regards to fast cast. Fast cast will cast exactly where your mouse is and make that point the centre of your circle. So if you want to cast chaos storm infront of you, just place your mouse infront and hit 5.
The only draw back of fast cast is you dont see the circle but you get use to it!
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Dmg is the same (minus beserker bug) – I still burst people from 100-0
Our survivability im pretty sure is the second highest just under thieves
Other thing is our burst combo is rather predictable and people better understand our class now. Its not hard to pop a block/evade/invulnerability on us when they get rooted. That might be why youre not getting them down to 0 maybe.
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ooo. didnt know such a thread existed! Thanks kylia!
Here’s a link to my channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FLIMPvideos
Vol 1 is SPvP
Vol 2 & 3 are WvW
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