Guild Wars 2

ARM.3912:

Fishbait.6723:

It isn`t fair in any zones, let alone just pve.

Qft.

Oops, i had to search what that meant.
/blush

Winds.3087:

I heard it took them 4 years to start splitting skills in gw.

Read somewhere that one or more spells in Guild Wars on the Elementalist weree only “fixed/changed” last year….
Not too bad as still main mine in Guild Wars

/cringe

It isn`t fair in any zones, let alone just pve.

Ceraldor.3160:

Fortus.6175:

not even insane damage to have a chance to kill people as fast as they do the same to us with a smirk in their faces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kTf-CGZfkj4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MlXskSmfpI

Made my day

Now show a whole battleground & I`d bet you`re 1-2 shot by anything with half a brain, or in thieves case, half a keystroke.

looted from either random or chests, I`m not able to place these on TP, even tried equip-2 to no avail.

Erm, how the hell did RTL nerf hit S/D more then D/D?

With S/D you can still hit players from range, with D/D you`re stuck at melee only, hence D/D got hit most from that dumb nerf.

True, someone in game showed me other day, just like the book from, erm…the last temporary events.
Trawled internot & found out need a mass of crystals in new zone, will give it a miss
Curious though, clicked something when got the 16th that appeared in bags, not a clue what it was though.

/shrug

Yes you can minimise, but like you said it won`t stay shrunk down.
Anything from using a waypoint, gaining a shield/event, achievement or just sneezing pops up whichever it wants to.

Gained last (16th, diving) achievement, haven`t received the mini zephyr pet thing.
(actually got 17 achievements done)

It also needs to quit telling you to move at the end or it`ll DC you from the game.
2+ minutes remaining, wtf are we meant to do?

Apparently “What they lack in physical toughness, they make up in versatility and the ability to inflict massive damage in a single attack.” got translated wrongly.

“Roll a Thief” was the original terminology.

I think Engie has it a little better then Ele`, but it`s hit & miss.

The old one may of looked bland, but it was “at a glance” easier to see what is what.
First thing I thought when I saw this was someone`s given a two year old some glow in the dark crayons or this game is being made ready for windows 8 touch screen phones.
It looks garish & cringeworthy.

P.S. Why the achievements watch? Does this mean they`re going to finally get rid of that crap top right?

covenn.7165:

Vapour form is one of many things that is whined about and you are right about that particular one coming from WvW. (hasn’t been nerfed yet though). Most of the other whines and resulting nerfs have been a result of sPvP imo.

Why they chose to nerf in both places some of the things they did, I will never understand. The style of game play is quite different. Something that is OP in WvW might not even be viable in sPvP …and vice versa.

I guess they thought (lol?) that RTL was op with 1200 range every 20 seconds (mainly because crappy players didn`t leaarn to immob` Ele`…) so put it to 40 seconds… Then again, ranger GS 1100 (not bad bike either ;p) range every 12 seconds along with a decent elite, which elementalists still have not.
Mesmers Temportal curtain 13 seconds of swiftness, blink 900 range breaks stun, stealth, pets that hit like trucks, oh & lots of decent elites.
Warriors check Magicalmike on youtube) shows him kiting 6ish around EB & he hits buttons, gets so far out of range he gets out of combat & even stops to mine lol Fast elites & cd.
Necro Spectral walk 33 seconds swiftness, Spectral wall (extremely nice spell), staff fears wells etc stop enemy catching up, Locust signet & horn (which I don`t even need) can give even more speed. Amazing elites (despite spell 1 doesn`t auto attack /shrug)
Thief….Don`t even get me started.

It is long over due they seperate WvWs, battlegrounds & PvE.

covenn.7165:

Fishbait.6723:

Someone looking after the carebears in WvWs that never learned to equip an immob` spell.

It was the whining from the carebears in sPvP that lead to all the class nerfs. Please keep it real.

Wow really? I`ve been in spvp & found vapour a waste of space, to the point I “/s killlllllllll meeeeeee” just to get back into things.

Also, if it was the spvp carebears, why is it active like that in all zones when anet could`ve split it?

Grevender.9235:

cheshirefox.7026:

i’m just going to start taking screenshots of how far i got the enemies health down before i get 0p’d to death..
60% is about typical..
20-40% is considered a good day!

who had the BRILLIANT idea of adding a pre-cooldown to skill 2 when Ele is downed? :|

Someone looking after the carebears in WvWs that never learned to equip an immob` spell.

People?
One person*
No, not anything is automatically crap, just the crap is crap.
It was crap enough before with tiers (which btw are still there) but this new coloured in stuff is for two year olds.
You disagree, fine, why bother stating so?
It doesn`t take a week or a month to spot bad ui changes.

page looks like a doodle made with glow in the dark crayons.

An option for the old one or a text version would be much better then this.

Also option to hide tooltips.

Was fine first couple runs, after that was spell lag, rubber banding & all the usual botherations.

boosters.

Any chance of these being sellable on the trading post?
I don`t use any of these, they don`t sit in a collectible slot (unlike pvp glory) so are just mere bag spaces wasted.

Same goes for copper pick, axe etc. Zero use for these, either TP`able or vendorable.

covenn.7165:

TGSlasher.1458:

@coven & BlackBeard
People called OP because some D/D players specced glass cannon and wiped the floor with an enemy expecting a bunker and wet noodle damage.

Oh I agree. People were definitely confusing bunker with cannons and combing the two. The resulting changes were due to the devs listening to the whines instead of paying attention to reality.

I want to apologize to the ele community though, because I believe I am responsible for one of our class changes. Killed an ANET tagged player several times the same way, and the very next day a stealth nerf (bug fix) went it. No more abusing that summoned weapon for me :p

You sir are living the dream.
Wish they played EU so I could gank them

Treat yourself to a cookie.

RTL block not fixed or reverted until they get off of their arses & fix it.

/surprisednot

lindstroem.3601:

Cause we used the catas to get the outer wall down aswell? But hey, next time we just will throw our heads against the gate.

Throw Asurats instead, more of them about….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SWCTlxEp6Ds#t=106s

Only other advantage to CTRL-shift-H is we don`t get this stupid crap pop up when it is least needed…..

Logged game, three times in five minutes this crap happened :$

Guess we should all sit in Lags Arch like everything else is.

I`ve always said it is down to the clueless noobs who never think once to stun/immob` an Ele` (probably as they only have pewpew spells on their bars) that it should be their problem, not the Ele` players.

But as we`ve seen constantly, anet are catering to the clueless care bears.
Guardian puts out more damage as standard, higher armour & is even tankier.
Thieves….scum of tyria, anet allows them highest mobility, highest damage & stealth.

Sat in borderlands ages ago I saw six or seven puggers of our side trying to get one poor little old d/d ele down, whilst watching from a tower & giggling/cringing, I never once saw any of them use a stun or immobiliser.

Fifteen minutes this went on before I dropped down, stunned it once & they pounced & went to finish the job & they even failed at that lol

But don`t expect them to revert anything.
Look how long it took them to revert EA & even then, only partially.
Even been talk of them nerfing S/? & FGS already.

/facepalmdeskfloor

I`ve no problem diving into fights to help someone from the server whilst I`m roaming, but if they`re just having fun duels, silly that some tend to do this out in the open & not behind the mill

I don`t bother downing (assuming I live ;p), I let the friendlies do that so if it was a duel, it`s up to them.

Is the Elementalists guild still up & running? Haven`t seen them log on or out & about, yet….

negerleif.2106:

Onshidesigns.1069:

JoshuaRAWR.4653:

I cannot take anyone in this thread seriously, why do you all want this so called “Clutter” Removed? It’s not distracting at all, the only way i can see it being distracting is if you all play on a 5 inch monitor.

Guild wars 2’s UI Is incredibly minimalistic, you’re all just being incredibly whiny, sorry to say, but the majority of you are acting like spoiled children. “THE PEAS ARE TOUCHING THE MASHED POTATO, OH MY GOD! MUUUUUUUUUUM!”

Who the kitten are you to tell anyone that they shouldn’t complain about GW2 cluttered UI?

I want the option to have a UI as cluttered free as Skyrim’ UI!

Ctrl-Shift+H And there you have a skyrim UI

If they made enemy name plates visible whilst doing that, would`ve used that permanently since day one

Fairly sure they didn`t say no, but time`ll tell.
Personally, I don`t want them in game.
It`ll only take 1 player rushing past with a train of mobs & you`re the one that`ll get killed.
If they add them, add them as purely cosmetic (& no, I don`t mean as terribad as town clothes) just make them same as players can run or if the player is hit, instant dismount etc.

P.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SWCTlxEp6Ds#t=174s

After helping guild with a mission, someone in zone said destroyer was up, so I pottered over.

Just check all of that crap on the right….

Click a shield, half a dozen more underneath (fix, put them on a timer)
Boss hp (fix, if we`ve got it targeted, we don`t need it on right showing the exact same hp)
Monthly (fix, just give us an option, not like the reward is of any use for most folk. I`ve hundreds of potions in bank I don`t need.)
Sky pirates (fix, option to turn off, not done any of it, no intention of doing any).

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fresh_Air

XII according to this.

Kraag Deadsoul.2789:

Completely agree. Coming from GW1 where the entire UI was customizable – hide, show, reposition, and/or resize any UI element you wish – GW2 UI’s lack of same is deplorable.

Do not give up hope, though. It only took 9 months, 38,000+ views, and 821 responses before ArenaNet finally consented to giving us an option to disable right click targeting. Start a campaign to keep this topic on the first page of the Suggestions forum and maybe in another 9 months they’ll finally give us the ability to customize the UI to our liking.

Gave up hope a long time ago, but will keep pestering for all those that will stay with the game through thick & thin on the off chance that anet will finally do something for the players, preferably before gw3 is released ;p

I do keep adding bits from time to time, but no doubt I`ll get another infraction as I already have for posting in this thread lol

MMOJumper.8504:

I can deal with everything except the Target window being at top center. That irks me beyond measure. When I’m in a big fight i play zoomed out almost completely so I can see the landscape around me in case an AoE is dropping or adds come into the fray. That spot at the top center of my screen is exactly where the boss usually is. I’d do anything, anything, to be able to move that somewhere else.

It`s such a shame after the standard ui settings in Guild Wars, where you could move every single thing to where you wanted it to be, & then we have gw2 where you`re not allowed to move a single item /sigh

The player/target selected could do with ability to move (along with everything) especially when in the likes of spvp, the games auto-balancing is then also spammed on top of the target selected, blocking that & all buffs players need to see.

Daft game is daft…

vesperia.6097:

I didn’t even notice the daily notice there I mean it’s so small…

I notice, bad ui decisions bug the hell out of me.
Thing is, I`ve no interest inn doing dailies, but have to to get that off of the screen.
Ever tried aiming arrow carts in tight spaces & can`t see because of dailies/monthlies etc in the way.

Hell, we can`t even click through them, let alone even hide them, like any other sensible mmo would`ve allowed us to.

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/video-game-shows/guildcast-guild-wars-show/guild-wars-2-updates-guildcast-77/

51:49 Richie mentions an UI overhaul.

With any luck they`ll be fixing this & giving us options to get shot of it if we want, & hopefully not adding more crap…

Offense meant, but rangers, warriors, mesmers (via portal), thieves via any button & even necro are slightly faster then ele & none of them have to go tank build to survive the average damage thrown about.

btw, did anyone watch the Mist league (think it was that tounament)? Well worth a watch on twitch, great casting team.
Anyhoe….
Zoose was in there running S/D & yes, he did have some fairly decent damage, but he also spent a hell of a lot of time either in vapour form or dead.

It doesn`t matter that ele` finally has another version of semi-gc build, if they`ve used their dodge, they`re critter fodder regardless of how good they are.

As for no reason not to run a burst thief, seriously? Thief damage is higher then any other class & combined with perma-stealth, even an average thief can waste several other players time trying to guess where they are.

Another one of Mist League` streams, showed one thief at mine (gold mine/AB??? ;p) just shadow stepping, stealthing etc constantly to kittened extents.

I concur, they do need an ele or three on this stream, but as we`ve all seen in the past streams, even when Grouch et al do ask serious questions, Sharp & other anet devs just fob them off with ummms & erms at best.

Astral Projections.7320:

Gnat.9405:

Astral Projections.7320:

They can’t give you the exact time. They have RNG server closing. It shows their commitment to the core values of the game.

I love you.

Ty, Ty. ^^

Pwease, may I be the flower girl?

Doomdesire.9365:

You can level up in downstate. Full HP instantly. It’s happened to me on occasion before. Especially if you partake in an event.

^ this.

Seen it happen loads of times & happened to a mate once,

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2guru/b/425001837

1:00:02 about says it all…

1:05:00 for main part.

in 1-2 hours"

Two minutes later, servers close down….

Any chance of you lot ever putting a somewhat more accurate timer?

Well, you`ll be happy warriors soon.
Sharp said on SOTG live, that due to pvp matters, warriors hp will be getting a buff.

LOL!!

Also possibly increased heals.

The one asking why folk don`t kitten about tthief mobility, trust me, that has been brought up nearly constantly since the game went live but nothing ever gets altered.
Oh, unless you include the 1 second difference in reveal, which was reverted within no time at all in all places except spvp.
The main reason RTL should not of been nerfed to such a stupid degree, is that d//d is stuck as melee & has no weapon swap enabling them to go ranged, so if someone is kiting or hitting from afar, you have to catch them up, butt in the mean time they`re still pewpewing you.
If only players had stuck an immobilise spell on their bars instead of all damage spells, RTL wouldn`t of been cried about to such a silly degree.

I`d say celestial, safer from the nerf bat then more specific others.

Xzaander.4123:

Are you people kittening kidding me? You want the warrior, the weakest class in both PvP and WvW right now, to be nerfed? EVEN MORE? kitten this.

I`d place bets no one wants warrior nerfed, they just want ele to be able to keep up with others as others can easily catch ele nowadays.

Make a build specific doesn`t really cut it tbh.
If you`re support staff ele & helping with the pewpews in WvWs & die, running back to that keep anyone can pounce you & you`re a gonner, you can`t really retrait tanky just because you`ve got to run back now can you
Imagine (I`ve had this loads in spvp, wvws etc) where someone is hitting you from range & you`re stuck on some ledge whilst in d/d, you`re basically kittened
Keep surrounded by enemy & you`re in d/d or at a push s/d-s/f & want staff. Best chance you have is going to top of keep behind lord, /twiddle waiting to leave combat, prat about in bags, tidy spare weapons & then go back to the fight, by which time door is probably down & you want your proper weapons equipped again ;p

Jabberwock.9014:

Still waiting on PvE/WvW rtl cooldown rollback. Honestly it’s almost ok in sPvP (should reduce to 35s long cooldown and make it so blocks don’t put it on long cooldown) but one of the reasons I chose ele in the beginning of the game was because of fast roaming with 12s rtl cooldown. Back then I wouldn’t have even fathomed a four-fold increase in cooldown, but here we are.

When they mentioned RTL mass nerf during SOTG (think it was that stream) they were directly asked if it would double the cd if blocked on guardians etc.
After some stammering & blank looks, they said that blocks wouldn`t double the cd.

By the looks of them, they hadn`t even put any thought into this & as it has been ages since the mass nerfage without any word from them, I wouldn`t expect any “fix” any time soon :$

And Elementalists were said to be high damage class.
wtf is that?

Mentalhead.5721:

They could add a small “X” to hide the events, and living / personal story, or to minimize it.
In addition, there could be a hotkey, or you can show it when you move your cursor to the right side of the screen.

That`d be best, as anet have said, they have to keep things simple for the simple folk, but here we are again.
Another month of ui stuck top right that doesn`t need to be there.

/siiiiiiiiiiiiigh

I`ve a Mesmer bank alt (at 80) & it`s mobility is fine.
Scepter wall/speed thingie, blink, random chance of speed boons on signets & underwater it is even faster by miles.
Plenty of times I`ve had a group chasing me around the borderlands & they could`nt do a thing.

As for ele having to tag mobs to do what every other class can do, it is failnets bad balancing.

Hell, even my warrior, I can outrun most with ease & to really take the kitten , I can shoot any critter & I get speed boosts on crits.

You can definitely see the marks, I`ve often found folk trying to hide due to them

Random clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FOgyt0UnHe8#t=221s

TGSlasher.1458:

Fiontar.4695:

Fishbait.6723:

I noticed & had heard in spvp about the vapour form now being delayed.
At least it`s not as bad kitten it used to be on spell 3 cast, but it`s just another case of “Ele` can escape in one extremely small portion of WvWs & nowhere else, let`s fix that asap”

All those crying that we could get through a door have won, just as they did with RTL, our heals, our defenses etc…

But hey, they can`t nerf us much more, can they?……

<tumbleweed>

The odd thing I had never seen anyone complain about vapor form until a few days before the patch hit. I’m convinced that some out of left field complaint posts that slightly predate specific nerfs are someone in development trying to create cover for a nerf that no one wants or has asked for.

I complained about it, and there were a few threads around release that had the same complaints across most classes. Basically if you press 2 as you go down you waist your 2 downed skill.

I`ve seen loads of complaints from other classes that ele could get through doors, yet they never once mentioned how pathetically kitten the downed state is everywhere else in the game.
Just check out some of the noobs that complain in threads like – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Elementalists-in-WvW-huge-flaw/first

As for ele accidentally triggering it, I guess that helps those, but personally, I don`t bother even trying unless near a keep & not at all if in spvp or normal game zones, as it is the kittentest downed state there is. True, Engie has it bad too, but at least they have good damage.

Any of my bank alts (guardian, ranger, necro, mesmer, warrior & thief I know I`ve an easy mode compared to downed ele.

Caffynated.5713:

Hint: we recently uncovered a trend about them being mostly clueless newbs.

<puts thinking cap on>
Erm, the devs? ;p