If you are gonna turn auto-attack off, just make sure you’re pressing 1 fast enough so you aren’t losing any damage and slow enough that you can pause at the right time in the chain to use another weapon skill.
Just learn the rhythm. mmm mm mmmm mmm mm mmmm mmm mm mmmm mmm mm mmmm..
Every ranger needs to learn this, and it’s incredibly easy. You probably just learned it reading this.
That’s a negative. The reason I noticed it was switch from WvW to PvE. Cats retained their names when I requipped them. I can change pets at will and my cats will retain their names 100% of the time. Other pets will sometimes retain them, sometimes not.
Out of curiosity, what happens in the case of extended duration condis, like poison/burning? Is the lowest damage duration tacked onto the end? Is it just applied in the order it’s applied?
The duration does stack, it’s just who is actually doing the damage isn’t determined by highest condi damage.
It’s a mistake to mix in condi gear; the person with the highest condi damage doesn’t supersede the condis of people in berserker.
I can see the argument for epidemic (not knowing a kitten thing about necros), but use it to spread the 25 stacks of bleeding 5 berserkers accidentally apply.
I usually play ranger myself but i still tend to kick other rangers from my partys. But not immediately, i let them come in and when i see any passive signets, a bear or spider or bow/axe they will get instakicked. Then they have obviously no clue how to play their class in the proper way
I play a s/wh + gs FS spotter HS ranger pretty much exclusively. But I have SoR slotted for many of the dungeons because the condis will usually annihilate PUGs. In SF it’s not uncommon to see the entire party with like 13 stacks of bleeding. HS does a good job, but SoR is the “my entire party is about to die” button. It’s also excellent for running, which is 99% of all dungeons. You still have room for FS and Sic ’Em, and QZ is absolutely terrible for anything but a few boss battles.
Nah, my very first pet that I almost never swap out forgets his name EVERY TIME I swap him for another pet, yet my brown bear Beary Bearington has never once forgot his name no matter how many times I’ve swapped him or how long I leave him “stowed”
So there is some type of permanence. I don’t know what it is, but something is causing my cats to retain their names no matter what I do, and something is causing your bear to retain it’s name.
Would be neat to have a skirmisher trait, “point blank” that simply reverses the longbow damage scaling to most damage close up and least damage far away. That way you could stack with the rest of them!
They’d have to make the auto attack do like 15k to compete with the faster, higher damage cleave of melee.
I would be ok with a separate key teleporting the pet (other than pet swap). I don’t want the recall to tele the pet because that’s a huge waste of time if all you want to do is reposition your pet.
For example, if it’s about to get smashed by a directional boss attack, you recall it for a brief second until it’s out of the circle, then put it back on the boss. Or any other of a number of repositioning options: blocking someone’s ranged attacks in PvP, blocking downed state skills, realigning an AoE attack or buff, etc. There are way too many choices to completely remove the repositioning available with the recall command.
The only fight I use axe MH on is grawl shaman and I still haven’t figured out the ideal build for that fight yet.
That’s one of the very few places in PvE a longbow shines, IMO. I liked barrage and entangle on the lava eles, and the longer range and harder hitting of the LB is good for when the boss is up. Longer range means whatever random position you find yourself in (i.e. getting away from someone with the AoE blasting on them) you can still hit. I did often have axe/WH on swap for that one though. The eles are very fragile so barrage does a number on them, but axe is not bad for finishing off stragglers.
The highest fractal I’d done back in the day was like 78 or something though, but that was obviously a very long time ago and I don’t know what tactics people use anymore, and I’m not sure how the fractal update changed anything. So…
Learn the animations of earth shaker (stun), staggering blow (knockback) and backbreaker (knockdown). You can’t just evade randomly, evade those 3 skills.
Take your warrior in to PvE with a hammer and get used to how those skills work.
So your tank warrior does 100% more damage than a berserker ranger when a berserker warrior does 5 or 8% more damage than a berserker ranger. That makes perfect sense.
To say more clearly, my ranger shoots 2500-3200 if it crits.
My warrior chops ~3000 crits with axe ~twice faster.
That’s your own fault for comparing incomparable builds, not the builds’ fault. First, in PvE, max damage warriors are slightly better than max damage rangers. It is no where near 100% better and you know that. Second, you’re comparing a ranged build to a melee build. Third, DPS is largely irrelevant in PvP as I said. Things like stealth, evades, teleports, knockbacks, etc. are more important.
You know all of this already; this isn’t the first time you’ve vehemently decreed rangers to be totally impotent. You are not being rationale, you’re being dramatic and ridiculous.
I find it curious you haven’t run in to a single ranger bunker in your PvP experience. Ranger condi bunkers are very meta, and have been for a very long time. The Tournament of Legends videos on the GW2 Twitch channel show a ton of rangers in action if you need examples. Almost every team ran a ranger.
Anyway, if you’re talking bunkering, you can take that number up to 1 vs 3 (not indefinitely of course if they’re not idiots, but for long enough to get backup.) Rangers have evades and sustain for days.
In addition to the builds Carp mentioned (except I am not a big fan of longbow in tPvP ever, but whatever), there is quite a bit of a learning curve with ranger compared to something like warrior. 1-hand sword is probably the single best weapon in the game, but it’s a death sentence the first time you use it.
I just took a look at the latest live stream video and I felt compelled to bump this thread. Take a look at this dev’s, uh… confusing build. I wish I could see the traits.
Edit: Oh dear, I’m watching the video and he’s basically the worst player I’ve ever seen in my life. This play is unacceptable.
So idea for test movement (and I think this clearly needs tested.) We have tons of video of actual PvP movement from the ToL. Many of the classes are not really usable like thief, mesmer or ranger. But 30 seconds of warrior or guardian movement could be mimicked. Do nothing but recreate the exact motions of 30 seconds or so from ToL.
I don’t really have that sort of exacting, chemist-type mind to feel comfortable volunteering to map the movements or probably even recreate them, but if I can help in any way for someone running a test, I’m down.
Marionette could be failed, I think people were a lot more willing to try “for real”. The boss blitz bronze reward is similar to failing the Marionette, but it doesn’t have the same feeling of complete failure attached. So people take the route of least effort.
You could test bird vs cat against a human by going in to a private arena and having one player do a predetermined set of moves in the exact same way. I.e., stand still for 1 second, dodge left once, circle strafe using the same key stroke method for 2 seconds, etc.
It may not be perfectly repeatable, but if the numbers are drastically different that would say something.
I try to engage them as far off point as possible. They’re not going to want to drop turrets if they’re in the middle of nowhere. Either you can pick off his health as he runs to point, or he fights in the middle of the nowhere which is a giant win for you.
One of the devs recently commented he uses the same stategy.
So your tank warrior does 100% more damage than a berserker ranger when a berserker warrior does 5 or 8% more damage than a berserker ranger. That makes perfect sense.
At any rate, DPS is not very relevant for anything other than PvE. Skills like hundred blades lose most of their effectiveness, and conditions, CC, and evades become far more important. All PvE warriors run greatsword. No PvP warriors run greatsword.
P.S. Slap on bloodlust on ur underwater weapon….so when u swap out the bloodlust weapon on ur land weapon it will still retain the stacks.
This has been fixed. In a kittenty way too, now you lose your bloodlust when going in to water even if you still have bloodlust equipped on your sword.
my conditions don’t even get bumped in huge PvE zeg-fests
not sure what you mean here – how would you test it?
You can see the damage over time ticks. He’s wrong though, it’s absolutely pure chance that your conditions are chosen over anyone else’s. I sometimes see a poison proc or something. Which is bad because then the person wearing carrion doesn’t get to see their poison proc. Only one person in the entire zerg gets that poison damage.
my conditions don’t even get bumped in huge PvE zeg-fests
not sure what you mean here – how would you test it?
You can see the damage over time ticks. He’s wrong though, it’s absolutely pure chance that your conditions are chosen over anyone else’s. I sometimes see a poison proc or something.
While I find this hysterical, I hope you only put so much effort in to this just to make us all laugh at how ignorant he is, and not because you’re genuinely worried about anything.
I know it’s silly but I’m stubborn like that! I really wanted to prove him wrong since he didn’t give me a chance to properly explain how my build works. I’m not worried I’d get hit by the banhammer because I didn’t do anything wrong, I just stayed alive! :> Also thanksu for all the positive comments, muchos appreciated.
Just be prepared for another hacking report if he ever finds this thread and finds out you’re a girl.
While I find this hysterical, I hope you only put so much effort in to this just to make us all laugh at how ignorant he is, and not because you’re genuinely worried about anything.
One simple change to start increasing viable builds would be making the person with the highest condi damage actually get to do the damage. Doesn’t matter how boss your condi damage is, you aren’t the one doing it, it’s the berserker guardian.
There would still need to be other changes to make condis viable, but that would be an amazing start.
So we agree then! A carrion melle ranger with 1900+ in condition with this amazing “change” would be viable! I knew I could bring you to my side of thinking!!!
I know it works because I run it from time to time. It can melt anything. Really.
No you’re still completely wrong. I’m sure it does work, it just is subpar. I am pretty sure you either aren’t reading the thread, or you know you’re wrong.
Edit to clarify: You skipped over a dozen posts explaining why you’re wrong to quote one post you thought supported you (and even it clearly doesn’t, and you don’t understand that even stacking conditions can be “overridden” by people with lower condition damage.)
People who run dungeons want rewards as fast as possible. If you think there is anything to this theory, I beg you to post it in the dungeon forum where more than just me and 5 other people can explain why you’re wrong using math and experience. In fact I’ll do it for you.
I know a ton of the voice actors are reused, but since this voice actor is doing two of the biggest characters in the living story, it’s quite apparent when so many random ambient NPCs are also Braham. It doesn’t help that his voice is so distinctive.
Your camp clearing strategy sounds almost identical to mine. But what the heck is holy bash? Do you mean you hilt bash the supervisor to interrupt the heal?
Ya guardians will be constantly overriding a condi char’s burning. As I’m sure you know, almost all classes (which are running berserker) are putting out a ton of condis accidentally.
I like what you’re doing, but you have a lot of inaccuracies and way too much personal opinion. I think you should rewrite it with the opinions taken out and double check your facts.
Well, the whole point of them not getting our stats is to compliment us. I use a condi bunker in PvP and use a cat to give me some power “burst”.
In PvP, it doesn’t matter that they don’t because everyone has the same level of stats. In PvE, I guess you could give pets a generic stat boost based on the level of your equipment. For example, if you’re in ascended equipment, you could give +75 to all pet stats over someone wearing exotic (or whatever the number needs to be.)
One simple change to start increasing viable builds would be making the person with the highest condi damage actually get to do the damage. Doesn’t matter how boss your condi damage is, you aren’t the one doing it, it’s the berserker guardian.
There would still need to be other changes to make condis viable, but that would be an amazing start.
maybe… just maybe… we should get TurtleDragon to upload some dps tests with carrion vs. berserker on the various weapons? traited and all (pets too), i’d say. like, just to really hit the point home (or not – my inclanation is the former, though)
i mean… what else are we gonna do with our time? (and by “we” i mean TurtleDragon)
The reason the meta is meta is because literally hundreds of thousands of players have reviewed and checked the math and actual application in a real life scenarios.
If carrion was more effective than berserker, it would be pounced on by thousands of players. It’s not. And it is not used.
People want rewards as fast as possible and carrion does not provide that.
Also if Archon had any legs to stand on he’d post his ideas in the dungeon forum instead of the ranger forum. If he were right he would completely change the way hundreds of thousands of people play.
Even with nothing in BM, power pets will compliment a condi bunker PvP build quite well. Cats and birds in particular will elicit a lot of “kittening pet!” from people waiting to respawn.
No, you will loose this fight. Even with berserker, scholars, and damage runes. Decent warrior will squash you every time. You need to get in his face and beat the snot out of him. But with berserker he with clobber you in seconds with swords. You’ll need a better build for this kind of warrior in tpvp, spvp or WvW.
What the hell are you talking about? I didn’t mention any builds or strategies or anything of the sort. A warrior using only a LB is not using warrior to a high potential. Do you disagree with that?
They didnt actually “add” a new dungeon when it came to the TA aetherpath, it replaced the FWD>UP path instead (the one with the bees and tough spider/tree boss)
Ignoring fractuals we havent had any new dungeons at all.
Ya that’s what I meant. The only new path we got added outside of fractals replaced a path. The number of dungeons we have right now may be the sort of critical mass as determined by Anet. Any more will have to come at the sacrifice of others or people who can’t moderate their play time effectively will complain that there are too many dungeon paths to do every day.
