At this point it’s mostly fighting for second, great fights all around this week. I miss INC
. CD and BP you have faced more higher tier servers recently. How do you think IOJ will do in silver league? We know we have some things to work on, our turnout was still a lot weaker than I’d expect.
I would say IoJ has a good shot at 2nd or 3rd place in Silver. Ehmry is easily beat these days by BP…Dragonwagon’s, wagon has moved on.
You are really looking at Maguuma and SBI (if SoS takes DB’s at 6). Magummy bears really lack off NA and if IoJ can capitalize on that, they have a shot. SBI looks to be the 800 lb gorilla just needs to see how it fairs vs Magummy but it should be fine due to coverage.
Yaks! Why did you bail from Hills as soon as we got back in??? Fight us, don’t jump off the cliff to your death, c’mon. You had more players than we did.
We had more players than you? Hmm, lets check the instant replay shall we???
Good times, glad you guys have fun even with the lopsided numbers. Viva la lemmings!
There is someone from your server who posted similar things. After YB started losing guilds and we started beating them, he became so elated when we would play higher tier servers and lose, and he would post on our matchup threads about it too.
TL;DR don’t underestimate how much QQ goes on on these forums, that seems like a pretty boilerplate QQ to me
I love forum trivia
<Hits buzzer> Who is …
Frosch get out on the battlefield enough forum roaming
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Saw this in the recruiting forums, bolded for sadness
Strident Iconoclast [SIC] of Isle of janthir (formerly of FA)
Why Join us?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3aNnHAIookClasses in demand right now:
Guardian: Very high
Warrior: Very high
Staff ele: Very high
D/D ele: moderate (you better be good)
S/D ele: Extremely high (you have to be better than good, we only have 1 spot for you)
Thief: Extremely High
Necro: high
Mesmer: low
Engineer: very low
Ranger: you would have to convince me there is actually value in having a ranger in guild
How would you know where SBI fits, they haven’t faced anyone higher than T4 since the transfers?
Until they face SoS or Maguuma, it’s all pointless speculation.
Pretty good speculation…SBI has decent off NA presence and its getting better. NA was your weaker zone now DDLG, BAEST, and others have shored that up. I hear you are also getting Dragon Riders from Borlis soon. Magummy bears don’t have a night presence so even if they match up with your NA (still think with what you have now that want be a problem) your SEA/Oceanic will have a good chance of turning everything to paper…which only makes their NA worse.
SoS is weak in NA but strong in off, so this is where you will have problems…depending on xfers
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Bro, I have already tried everything on the internet. That’s why I came to you guys. I have went to the error pages on Fraps forums, asked, got answered, and tried it. Still 10 seconds long. PLz. I need the help of anyone!!.
Smells like GIGO to me.
Wow for a host of a pod cast you sure are trolly. You are really making yourself look bad, like some kind of jaded ex-girlfriend that no matter how much you say you dislike him…you just cannot let go and must continue to post here.
Great job not feeding the trolls Menace, and good luck working on vids.
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If thief hits you for 16 k, then you should wear something else than just your underpants^^
Nice attempt at being funny or your just bad on thief….Thief can easily hit higher than that on a tanky warrior. There is a post up right now of a warrior with ~3.4k armor getting bursted for 2.3k steal, 11.2k BS, 6.5k Cnd, 3.7k heartseeker…thats 23.7k damage against a person who is built to tank…not glass not underpants TANK.
I have seen this kinda damage before on my warrior as well and the heartseeker hit higher. Thief just repeated until he got me…had a fail attempt poofed and reset, never saw him coming then BAM got the crits he needed gg.
I use full dire armor with scavenging runes
Weapons I have 1 staff Dire W/geo sigil, 1 scepter Dire w/Geo, 2 Dire daggers (1 with corruption, the other Bursting) I do have a legendary dagger so thats the one that has bursting.over all I love my bleed ticks.
GF advice hmmm…just kidding, had to Borlis Pass ; ) Thanks Brando, I will swap out the energy and go both Staff/Scepter Geo. I hope they make some better on swap sigils in next patch…still not a fan of geomancy since split time between large group and roaming.
So for the record, this is pretty much the max I can do.
You could have crit your heartseeker….
Do you need to do more when you can drop a tank?
Well…. if you are running a low crit build, you want to be using an on swap sigil. If you are using an on-swap sigil, you are hurting yourself by not taking the same effect on both your staff and your Main Hand (as the cooldown is up for every swap).
Most builds will be Geo/Bursting and Geo, or Battle/Bursting and Battle.
The only build I run double bursting would be in a non-swap crit build, like Earth/Bursting and Bursting.
The on swap effects are too good to pass up for bursting on staff if you can guarantee the effect. If you run Earth on your mainhand set, you cannot get a reliable swap effect. Battle for instance gives you more damage than bursting for the 3 might duration, and more power, and it lasts 20 seconds, so it can compound over a fight to give lots of might.
TLDR:
Bursting on both sets for crit builds focused on damage. Bursting on Offhand only for swap builds (low crit).
Thanks Rennoko that helped…your build was one of the recent ones I had looked at but since you run noble runes to max your might stacks I figured Battle was more niche to your build since you focus on might stacking.
I have Geo on staff atm but it seems ehhh. I am usually trying to be away from whoever I am fighting so it seems to be wasted quite a bit on swap.
Also just to note, Settler and Dire have no ascended trinkets available. You can only get Apothecary. So if you are going for full ascended, you may want to start with Apothecary there, and fill in the gaps with Settler/Dire on your armor/weapons.
Didn’t look at settler but there is pretty much a Dire version… major stats are Tough, Vit, Condi…with a paltry 18 in precision.
Lol warriros and everything else can hit as hard or sometimes harder if you go all out in DPS. This is not only thieves. In fact warriors can have 2.5k plus armor and hit way harder
but that warrior will get squished and have no where near the escape means. Ran into a thief like this last night…Playing necro with 27k health. Never saw him coming, just 10k BS, 6k CnD, 6K HS, usually lightning proc in there…if he didn’t drop me by landing all crits I then got him to 25% and poof off he went….to reset and try again. So he either popped in dropping me or poofed out at 25% either way the party never had time to catch him.
Now a warrior sure could rush in and drop a ton of damage…but he won’t survive getting back out. + you will see him coming and can prep… lay down marks/wells
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No one is sharing? or has opinion with the new sigils?
Guardian forum —-——>
Seriously they do every one of the things you listed ver well. FOTM loves guards…everyone loves guards.
I have searched a lot and could not find any recent(due to new sigils)builds, for a low crit build.
Recently switched from carrion to Dire/Scavenging runes for WvW/Pve purpose. Have bursting/energy on scepter dagger, Staff?
Whats everyone else using for their sets?? I havent seen any build using bursting on on both sets so it makes me wonder am I missing something.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Edited..Have corruption stacker on 2nd staff
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Its because force is better than a proc which cant crit and has an ICD. Cant believe it took this long for people to realise how bad the sigil was.
Sounds like a few still havent realized it.
Still good for its burstyness…can’t believe people haven’t realized it
It also works with a good amjority of the builds, while things like battle are great but only if you focus a bit on might stacking and boon duration.
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Its not Tequatl that is the failure… It is the players. Tequatl is beatable. Players just need to stop being selfish and carebears.
You don’t get it. Walk into a busy mall and start asking 100 people to get in a straight line…It won’t happen people all have their own agendas.
People are going to spec the way they want, play the profession they want. In wow organizing 40 people was tough enough, dictating their specs…kicking bad gear score/dps meters.
Coordinating that many people is the challenge, not the content.
Except that organized guilds tell zerkers to stay with the turrets……….
You forgot to add…and all condi specs please leave the instance we only need 2 of you at most.
We destroyed Tequatl at an overflow! We where 130+ people in TS
Yea total BS, this is not showing anything other than in order to beat this boss you need dedicated players who are all coordinating on TS. This is far from whats really happening.
Change the title to “Guild created for sole purpose of beating TEQ using TeamSpeak Coordination in pretty much our own instance…beat TEQ…”
So uhh whys BP in 3rd place?
Badies gonna bad?
Ehmry 3rd place?
inc: We don’t play for PPT, PPT is lame we only use it when it suits us
Reset is a servers true strength
School is back in and we get cranky at recess unless we go to bed at 9
WTF are rambling about?
The fact ebay is in 3rd place on a tuesday night by 4k?
Who cares about winning PPT besides Borlis Pass???
Apparently you cared when you had the PPT lead? pshh you went for canned response 1 change it up
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So uhh whys BP in 3rd place?
Badies gonna bad?
A theory with merit
Ehmry 3rd place?
inc: We don’t play for PPT, PPT is lame we only use it when it suits us
Reset is a servers true strength
School is back in and we get cranky at recess unless we go to bed at 9
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Bought about 30-40 daggers and swords…not a ton but will still be nice profit. Picked em all up for just over 1g ea when I heard the musings on possible ways to implement MF change. Figure ehh its pretty much impossible to lose unless they simply detroy the MF item.
So we got matched up with IoJ this week and we’re getting destroyed lol. Just wondering how a former T2 server who used to match with BG and SoR came all the way to down to T7. We have no where near the dedication to WvW they do…2 nights ago 4 omegas came to take our keep. Seriously? I rarely ever see more than 4 cannons being built on our side at one time. But we still have lots of fun, and the scores are usually close. But now it’s like 300k to 87k or something…so lame.
We had a 50 Omega Golem rush/stomp across our BL against Borlis tier 4. Four golems not so bad.
Q.Q where all the BP solo roamers<.< im tired of packs
Most probably not making it past the spawn camp of all the thiefs…I ran out a quite a few times last night and got jumped by about 3-5 stealth spammers consistently. Pretty annoying, down 1 and refuge goes up and he is back up or they just stealth/ran when health low and reset then come back to annoy.
I did see a solo asura magummy bear from kitten , props to him, for going against all the DB thiefs…magummy BL I believe.
Joined the zerg and had fun smashing into DB and Mag zerg’s then we got caught in the middle of both…11-12 server time. Good fun
Lol edit for D|erp being censored
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Have heard lots of Cries and builds for perplexity…engy, mesmer and warrior utilizing interrupts have been able to use to great effectiveness…perplexity may be getting nerfed to adding ICD. So hoard with caution
- Every map will be invaded at least once per day, probably twice. In some cases, three times.
- Builds do not affect the rotation.
- The rotation is the same across all servers.
- If you play at the same time every day, you will see all 13 maps by the end of the Clockwork Chaos release.
- If you play at the same time every day, you will see all 13 maps by the end of the Clockwork Chaos release.
How can they say that when it’s random probability is probability and not a guarantee…also who has dedicated playtimes everyday this isn’t a job although it feels like it sometimes. That assumption is again relying on you being able to be chained to your comp almost every day for prob 4+ hours each and every day and even then it’s still RNG.
Did you miss the part where I said 30+ hours by that account I should have seen the map I needed at least 3 times almost…RNG is a B^%@ and that’s why in certain things it should be stopped. Nah this isnt a grind at all
Friday 5-2AM
Saturday 8-12am
Sunday 12pm to 1am
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I spent all weekend camping the invasions, prob close to 30+ hours and never saw Dredgehaunt cliffs pop up I would love to be able to get back to not having to make sure I stop whatever I am doing and be ready to check every hour…I even logged in today while getting ready for work to make sure the event I needed didn’t pop in the 1 hour before I left.
If I wasn’t stuck at 12/13 might not care but that close is driving me crazy that the one I need just won’t come up yet I have seen Timberline, Gendarran and others up to 3+ times some even back to back.
So please in the future not everyone can be logged in 24 hours a day, now that I am back to work my window is quite smaller to hit the ones I need.
I stopped reading after this. The only thing BURN was good at was doing guild missions and PvE events every day. GOAT raided like what, 1-2 times a week? Wow we were being carried by these two guilds?
I do miss BURN always keeping the temples open…
omg hahaha borlis pass omg hahaha let me catch my breath
except DR they’re good
but that’s because BP had nothing to do with that
how hardcore is WFD these days still semi hardcore?
Lol your orig server AR isn’t even circling the toilet anymore, so you hop to EB? EB is losing now, so you hop to DB. …how fitting you ended up on Dragonwagon. Then you puff up your chest of how good DB is trololololol.
Well, BP, now you can make true your words from not so long ago, that you would defeat Maguuma. I said i had popcorn ready for just this occasion, time to get it. And surely DB is just a minor obstacle for you guys on your way to crush Maguuma.
Never imagined i would say so, but…good luck to Maguuma and DB too. Although i know you won’t need luck to make BP come out 3rd this week.
You dislike BP more than us?
Frosch has been stalking all our subsequent matchups after their loss, because a commander made a not so inside joke(Rekz stating if BP beats us we are transferring) on our forums that he would leave if whatever server Frosch was on didn’t come in last….been bent ever since.
I like Bollaball better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UcVzFLl77zM#at=307
I mean, look at this way. We could’ve used some super BP tactics and played for PPT and completely ignored you, but we’re always up for a fight and we had just come from wiping you guys at inner bay.
You do realize the inner bay pug crew was just a diversion right? Sure it would have been nice to get both. The real prize was your fully upgraded Hills, mission accomplished
Horse has been beaten to a pulp in citadel
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When that group of 30 can’t use their skills because the group of 80 causes lag… yeah about that..
So now you want Anet to reduce player population because you have a low end system/gfx card/slow internet??
Never have lag on Q’d maps
Thanks for the assumptions btw… wasn’t aware a Quad-Core i5, 8 GB DDR3, GTX 660 Ti was considered a “low end system” these days.
then I will assume it’s your dial-up ; )
When that group of 30 can’t use their skills because the group of 80 causes lag… yeah about that..
So now you want Anet to reduce player population because you have a low end system/gfx card/slow internet??
Never have lag on Q’d maps
Stealth Stomps…in yo face thief!
Match is winding down, it’s been fun. Big thanks to EBay for being our professor at the School of Hard Knocks, Monkey Shinezz for all the words of encouragement, and all the new/old friends that have joined BP.
@KStudios Great sportsman all around, hope we get EBay again with comparable servers. Think the air will have cleared some (little bit of venting this match).
We had a great time in EB last night, I know I am tired 3am NA time and work.
Until next match, keep it frosty my friends.
Arise Chicken, Arise!
Bippy Witch Doctor, Saw the starter skull facemask and had to make. Billy Witch Doctor from Aqua Teen Hunger Force, name was open but didn’t feel Asuran, so Bippy it was.
I has gotten me rezzed fast in WvW many times, “OMG they killed Bippy”
That was a massive GOLEM rush by BP over night. We were fighting about 10 BP south Bay when “Holy Cow!” went out in map chat. That holy cow came from one of our scouts that spotted the 10-15? GOLEMS in the water. I jumped in the water and saw the GOLEMS and about 30 BP. Nice save DH.
Umm. No. You couldn’t take any of our keeps despite throwing, what… 50 golems at them over the course of the night,
20-30, 10-15…closer to 5-7. We had either 4 to 6 Alpha’s and 1 Omega(I forget exact but it wasnt that big). Also you guys killed 1 Alpha in the water if I recall.
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You know, I never see “Good job defending/taking DH.” It’s always " you only kept/got that because of another server."
DH is doing a great job so far this week, and I think we deserve credit where credit is due. Just my humble opinion though, take it or leave it.
GO DH!
Then you are not looking, not even a few posts up is my post saying great job DH and on page 1 again is another post by me saying great defense on Bay. Several other BP’s have all given props to DH as well. DH forces have been putting up a hell of a fight.
I am not talking about just this thread. Too bad you can’t go back and read the old ones.
EDIT: Why would you be talking about old threads/other servers in this one? That doesn’t make sense
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Kudos Darkhaven you guys are tough, got some numbers right now. BP hits your Bay and you had a force big enough to take our Hills. We were wondering if you guys would slow down on weekday, nope…
Hats off DH you guys are making this a fun match
He’s implying that DH’s score is a result of BP and YB ignoring us and doesn’t actually mean we’re competitive. Keep in mind that he’s also the one saying this thread doesn’t have enough drama.
That is the implication but it’s not to say DH is not good. We focus on the favorite and try to bring them down rather than pad our ppt by hitting the smaller. Every major group I ran with this weekend we were either in our BL or YB BL.
We did attack DH BL Bay last night and we met with some very heavy resistance, AC’s oh my…I am sure you had some happy shooters. We had to pull out as you guys were great in defending. We jumped maps back to YB and took their bay much easier.
Great fights all around
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BP Super SBI Strategy #1
BP 1: Huge SBI zerg attacking our hills, we might lose it if this siege continues.
BP CMDR: I need about 5 people to go to Stonemist and tap the gate.
SBI Pugger: Pull out, pull out SM is under attack!!
BP CMDR: Perfect, they will be busy for hours in EB…Let’s paper their BL!!
Anyway if we don’t meet again this next week, it was great fighting SBI and NSP. I am sure there were some memorable fights to be had by all.
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SBI nice LoS hacking in Hills with AC’s to destroy our siege defense in Lords room….and you still got pushed out for missing the contesting of WP.
There are always people that act like a zerg that must have queued the map and 20 omega golems were not a serious attempt at taking something. The shroud of “fun” is not fooling anybody.
Ahh yes and here is another serious attempt BP made at taking Bay…sadly got our face melted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24oB1P54Wec
Great vid one of my favorite BP WvW^^^
Let’s not bicker and argue about who killed who
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There are always people that act like a zerg that must have queued the map and 20 omega golems were not a serious attempt at taking something. The shroud of “fun” is not fooling anybody. Having fun and making a serious attempt are not mutually exclusive. Your plan to have fun probably didn’t involve wiping. You probably didn’t intend to send your commander off with failure.
Posts like yours always come off as pathetic to me. Losing isn’t nearly as bad as trying to make terrible excuses for it. Everybody loses sometimes, but only a select few insist they weren’t trying after the fact.
And people like you have no clue what you are talking about. It was all for fun, were you on our vent channel when we were coordinating the mass omega fire show spectacular, or when they were all doing the wave?
Dtc Justice will be away for a while so we all went out and had fun, did a large group get slaughtered at the garri…uh yea did anyone deny that…no. PS Dtc’s Omega and 4 others walked away from garri.
We had 20 golems we thought it would be funny to portal bomb Omega’s in the lords room. 15 golems and quite a few people gave you loot bags, enjoy em, we had fun doing it win/lose. The match clearly won so it didn’t matter what we did at that point.
Look at the chat on the screens posted you see any serious strategy in there? “omg where are all the commanders(everyone turned their hats on” “we should be playing the star wars march” Seriously if you didn’t know that was for fun, you are dense.
*destroying all walls needlessly when we could have straight rushed
*doing time competitions to see how fast we could blow up a wall with 20 Omegas
- 15+ min doing firework shows w/ time warps. the wave…all for fun
*coordinating missile strikes on unsuspecting defenders
Then we took off to EB and went around clashing into several HoD/DR zergs. We got tons of bags, it was fun. We all switched to pink zerg and one point we were like lets jump off here and pincer their zerg, we jumped but it was a little too far….
*I like the 2 HoD(i think) cows that were “Top Secret” near our zerg. Don’t know if the puggers killed you but TS people lulz and we ran by…very sneaky.
It wasn’t the best match up but hope everyone still found some fun in it all
Zel-To begin,when a small man complains about the Zerg mentality that permeates this game, they are not in fact “whining” about dying. Instead, they are calling out a “tactic” that focuses on overwhelming force of numbers in order to replace actual skill.
Some servers are bigger than others, what a small server may consider a Zerg may be a skirmish squad against a t1 server. You cannot say people are hiding behind Zerg and have no skill its stupid. What are they supposed to do say “alright guys we are facing a smaller force I want half of you to either not Q or when we do get in an engagement please draw straws to see who will be sitting out”? /facepalm
Hey there stellar player. Looks like you didn’t actually read all of my post….just the very beginning. Go back and try it again. Should probably clear things up!
Thanks!
Thats because it was a massive post, as osif said TLDR. + your in with jscull who keeps sighting we should all be running around in 5 mans.
But yea you got me, I lost interest in your post after that first few lines, if it went on to say more to the contrary I apologize
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So, he jumps into ten people by himself and kills most of them in his opening burst? Guess the AoE cap doesn’t apply to this guy then.
He also appears to be getting his revenge with a group of people with him.
Yeah I was about to say…
Well, it’s obvious that from his videos, Buka is a good Mesmer. No doubt about that. 1v10ing though…. ya not so much.
Will have to check video but I don’t remember seeing him have help in a few of the assaults since there were several (you always get some randoms trying to help its unavoidable), but at work so cannot cite exampkitten
ttom line what this was in ref too, thats skill whatever Jscull was talking about 6v20 on most likely a bunch of non coordinated up leveled puggers not brag worthy. Show me pulling off stuff like Buka and kudo’s will be given.
I have no doubt PAXA could pull off great things given the numbers, you guys are well coordinated but it is a whole lot easier coordinating 5 people then 20+ thats just fact no slight to PAXA or any of the other skirmishers. A commander hat quickly attracts all the puggers and BP was mainly a pug server.
edit: for unnecessary censorship “example” realy?
Why were there 20-30 BP guarding a single supply camp from 7 people in a zone that was completely their’s with no significant enemy forces in it?
Probably because… Why do birds suddenly appear / Every time Oozo is near? / Just like me, they long to be / Close to Oozo.
or
They missed the memo, where half of BP’s forces were supposed to not Q this week
. CD and BP you have faced more higher tier servers recently. How do you think IOJ will do in silver league? We know we have some things to work on, our turnout was still a lot weaker than I’d expect.

