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Imagine that mobs that were not killed for at least an hour have a chance to drop some rare parts of something useful (armor, weapon?).
I would love for there to be a mechanic along these lines. Care must be taken though to ensure the mechanic doesn’t spread people out too much. We wouldn’t want players actively avoiding each other.
The simplest (and possibly most fool-proof) way is to reward players more in under or averagely populated areas. That would normalize the population across the open world.
Or it could be limited to few mob kills per day/account. For a few weeks you could be hunting mobs you need, it could be very fun and I’m sure that if Anet would agreed on implementing this, they would add something extra to ensure that we wouldn’t tire of is too soon
Another idea – when I’ve written “hunting mobs” it occured to me that we lack class quests. But that’s probably too big for any kind of hope now.
The reward is not worth the time.
You knew the reward before you could fight her.
You decide what’s worth and why any effort for you. The rest are your skills
Cheers!
Hi,
I was thinking on how can WvW can be expanded with new toys >:)
I’ve got here some screenies to back up my ideas.
But first of all – I don’t wanna generic machines, that look as in any medieval movie – very standard catapults and trebuchets – it’s not interesting and spoils having all the inventions of all races!
Ok, fist screen on top:
Cannot to… launch players! Yes! It should be very expensive but would allow to fire us behind enemy walls! Add to this my last idea (last image) and hohoo, we could get nice carnage.
Second image – anti-zerg cannot. It fires ball of matter that creates black hole that sucks and severe injures any player who is nearby. Firing requires supply and some time to charge, so escaping is possible.
Third image – machine gun – turns very slowly but can chop any player to bits in a matter of 2 seconds. Firing requires supplying.
Fourth image – Sniper gun: one shot – one kill but it doesn’t work like any attacks – it isn’t automatic. You must turn the gun manually. The range should be minimum 10k, maybe more. It’s mobile – you can pack it up and deploy again. It’s quite expensive to build and takes a lot of time.
Fifth screen: balloon, yes! Attack from above! It moves veeery slowly, can only take 5 players and have limited supply of bombs. You can of course safely leave the balloon and lay devastation with you character, but you cannot go back. When there’s no one on the balloon it’s set to autodestruction and lands with explosion exactly below it.
And last picture. Explosive chicken! Yeah!
We need brave (or suicidal) player to try to use it. Chicken is very fragile so almost any damage can detonate it. Explosion is big and don’t distinguish friends from foes. It also does big damage to doors (but not walls). You can be fired with chicken from the first cannon (if anyone wondered – you are fired with parachute, so firing should also require some supply). How to get chicken? Well – get it from battlefield, bring to your base and pack it with explosives!
I know that there are many more guns and cannons and other tools presented in the game (asura laser, cannons, etc.) but these gave me some ideas.
Any thoughts?
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Can you finally add story to the game, not to the forum?
Wow, splendid idea! Just try to imagine how cool would it be if it was presented the way Logan spoke with the necromancer chick
Very nice piece of read!
However I think that it should be showed to us before the main event – it would build climate and give us some much needed background (even if only from Charr point of view). Hope we get more of short stories!
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no thank you i hate it if ever i thought i was wasteing my life playing this game the last 5 hours spent trying to beat the gauntlet end boss certainly reaffirmed that feeling
Take a deep breath and try again You will succeed eventually.
(don’t ever try to play Dark Souls :P )
If you mean that if we can see ppl escorting same npc over and over or killing few pirates in 2 locations per map is indication that open world is alive again, imo you are mistaken.
People are doing Champion runs all around the maps at the moment, so I would say it is quite alive.
I do find that every living story did a nice job of reviving the areas they took place in.
During flame and frost, diessa and wayfarer were full of players.
Return to Southsun, well southsun was filled!
Dragon bash, you had players in pretty much every map, doing effigies and holograms.
same for the Bazaar and the Jubilee, with the kites and balloons.IMO the updates don’t bring life to areas, they force life into them. And temporary
How do they force life into them? Does someone go about threatening each user to do the event? Sorry, but I just don’t understand how a player can be forced into an area to do something, if you don’t want to do it you don’t have to. They even introduced a way for casual players to complete the meta-achievement through dailies involving the Jubilee. Therefore, your analysis makes no sense.
On a side note, “The Wallet” is quite simply AWESOME!
Maybe I have exaggerated a little. My point was that now players battle champs when they spawn and go away for another. Players are forced into areas where champs spawn, because only them can give shinies everyone wants. Other events are abandoned.
If you mean that if we can see ppl escorting same npc over and over or killing few pirates in 2 locations per map is indication that open world is alive again, imo you are mistaken.
People are doing Champion runs all around the maps at the moment, so I would say it is quite alive.
I do find that every living story did a nice job of reviving the areas they took place in.
During flame and frost, diessa and wayfarer were full of players.
Return to Southsun, well southsun was filled!
Dragon bash, you had players in pretty much every map, doing effigies and holograms.
same for the Bazaar and the Jubilee, with the kites and balloons.
IMO the updates don’t bring life to areas, they force life into them. And temporary
I think that some ‘mystery’ would be beneficial to announcements of new events across Tyria, like:
- in patch notes: “new events at Wayfarer Foothils”
-in game:
We go to Wayfarer Foothils and start searching, we see changes in mobs – like bigger groups of minotaurs or wolves here and there – that would be clues. We see npc hidden behind tree observing big alfa minotaur – this start chain quest where we defeat it as he is corrupted, then we defend remaining minotaurs (we have to kill them as few when fighting alfa as possible or we will fail) from some monsters. Then we encounter spirit of the wild, who shows us source of corruption – we escort blessed minotaur there to cleanse it. There we fight boss who escapes.
This way this chain can always be made bigger.
I’d like to see rewards from dynamic events like:
when we rebuild destroyed bridge after we succeed there’s memorial plate placed nearby with names of players who helped. Same with defending city. There npcs should shout our names in gratitude, mayor of town give us discount on all merchandise (this would require a little revamp of vendor items).
Such small rewards shouldn’t be hard to implement and would add a feeling of being part of region which we helped.
My most favorite part of game is actually being part of the world.
Thing that kills this game little by little are rewards IMO. Yes. Ppl don’t want to do anything if they won’t receive their shinies. Where is the need for adventure, for travel, for exploring, for experiencing world? Where, I ask?
Where is the need for cooperation when all new content we have requires for all to become one mass of many graphical effects and low fps?
If you really wanna feel what I’m talking about, try to kill Giant in town of Nageling (Diessa plateau – Nageling WP) with 3, 4 random players. It’s so fun, so rewarding, exciting. With my melee engineer I started learning how to properly use Tool kit in order to survive. Some random elementalist came and we almost managed to take giant down. It really was a great experience. We was helping each other, hiding behind buildings, rocks. I needed to properly use my healings skill to keep our health high enough in order to survive any mistakes on our part and there were many
Killing legendary figures at Crown Pavilion with tens of players compared to this is so without substance. Gray. Dull. And what’s worst for me – I don’t fully utilise my character. I just stand behind zerg and pew pew boss and try to heal as many players as possible. There is no effort in it.
Btw. I wonder if ppl still would hunt champs across world if now we have them in one place and kill them without problems, everyone grind them like crazy. When Jubilee end, what of that will remain? Won’t everybody be accustomed to having big zerg with them killing champs that are 20 meters away?
The very first living world team actually did the thing some of you have called for. Some 40 or so permanent events were added around the game in our very first content update. They were met with little interest or fanfare. Granted, Halloween may have stolen the show. But those events are still in the game today. I’ve seen very little reaction to them, however, positive or negative. Despite this, there are many events I would still like to add. Many zones and bosses I would love to revisit. As we get better at the living world, I strongly suspect we’ll have room to get around to them as well. Assuming that’s what our players really want. You are all the second half of the collaborative process, so thanks for helping!
From release notes of “Shadow of Mad King”:
“Tyria Evolving
The world continues to evolve with new events, jumping puzzkitten sses, mini-dungeons, and achievements appearing across a variety of maps.”
This could be the only sentence in the next few update notes.
I was so busy with Halloween content and I haven’t even paid any attention to these additions
My issue – we blink from point to point, from event to event hoping that we can be on time before all mobs are slaughtered by teleporting zerg.
It kills immersion, the need to travel, the need to put effort to arrive at destination.
My idea:
Every map should have main Waypoint.
We can teleport to it and only to it from any other point across Tyria – as it is now. The rest of waypoints on this map can only be teleported to by being near the main one.
Costs should be – teleport to main one from other map – 5s, teleport to main one on the same map – 0s, teleport to other WP on the same map – ~1s.
Now, this sounds stupid now
There’s one thing more:
There would be cooldown on teleportation to other waypoints on the same map. Few minutes? 5 minutes? maybe 10 minutes?
Thank to this we would see many ppl travel across map, fight mobs they encounter, bring some dynamic to layout of players across map.
Any thoughts on this?
What I don’t like:
- event start, zerg waiting or rushing there, what’s there to kill is killed in less than a minuet, event stop. Now we got mass of players just jump from point to point, because there’s nothing to do.
- updates are fun, deliver new things but temporary. I’ve seen NOT A ONE THING that enhanced world like new skills to mobs, more diverse mobs, more events, new npcs to talk to, new hearts. Updates guide us to one location where zerg gather who farm new temporary currency which is useless after ~two weeks.
- Overall I think that this game needed from the very beginnig more fundamental additions, not experiments and builds of short meaningless stories which are shallow and tiny in scale in comparision to main story. We needed things to enhance guild life, party playing, not just ways to gather zergs in places to farm new tokes. We wanted quality changes, not fillers.
- TPvP with only one game type and just no link of TPvP with PvE or WvW. I admire ppl who beat TPvP from the very beginnig and bear with this stagnant content.
- WvW haven’t improved at all IMHO. Changes are so minimal and don’t change in any way style of playing. Here I also bow to any player who plays it constantly from the beginning. Man, ppl are tough
Of course I could point many other smaller things, which in my opinion could be better but they are not so important. My main concern is that the game don’t feel as being developed. Feeling is more as it’s flashing to lure more players who want to dress their toons.
I really could pay monthly fee just to get major updates which give my main and future characters more to do, more to achieve, more to accomplish and more to face againts in new exciting ways.
Besides that, I love GW2
I’ve just written wall of text and deleted it as there is just one thing that I wanna say:
this come-and-go updates have to STOP! They are fun but totally don’t fit imho of what was before first festival. We got solid world with events occuring as we were passing by.
Now we just rush to events before huge zerg wipe everything. We just hope that we can have a bite of what’s happening.
I’ve just been in pavilon, kitten it’s idiotic – zerg running, people yelling: “hey, everyone, farm centaur champ!”
And indeed they are just mindlessly farming
Ah, hell, I’ll write my wall of text in another topic :P
Evon seemed like a lot more interesting character.
She’s (for me) typical good-hearted, predictable bore and I don’t like that she won, but, hey, who said that democracy is the best way to choose the ruler?
Very little, tiny, almost nonexistent voice: “add new types of gameplay to TPvP”.
A little louder – glad to have wallet
I’d like more:
- big towns with fighting on streets between buildings and in buildings, on walls, on roofs (could be great TPvP map with different than capturing points mode).
- dungeons! These good-ol’ full of bricks, sewers, odors, narrow corridors leading to rooms with even more corridors. We need more classic dungeons!
- Deserts! With lot of sands, rocks, like in movie Dune
- More underwater which tends to be quite beautiful (to promote possibility of playing beneath the surface).
Beautiful =/= bright and sunny I want beautiful and dangerous places! I wanna jungle with invisible enemies (they only reveal when they attack), beaches with high and steep cliffs where big siege cyclops live, I wanna high mountains where step in wrong direction means death down below, I wanna labyrinths where even the surroundings are your enemy, I wanna other dimensions where nothing you see is what you see.
I wanna more forests, more swamps, more corruption, I wanna more of everything!