Guild Wars 2

I have not used minions since level 40 or so, when I figured out they were complete garbage. I think the kitten jagged horror should not degen health. What makes me mad is that it still degens health when its friggen dead and keeps my in combat. Talk about kittening us further… thanks ANET.

Speaking of kittened, I rarely see Necros using signets (useless), nor do we use half of our utility skills because they are situational. Wells are some of my favorite skills, but i hate their long cooldowns, and the best wells, have the longer cooldowns.

left my necro for my guardian. Guardian is balanced, has awesome builds, is useful in and out of a group. Got tired of being last at everything. anet has no idea.

Necros remain the lowest played pvp class in gw2. they got buffed? Tell me you have a level 80 necro and he is fully geared out; or at least tell me you regularly play one in spvp. Necros have 1 build in pvp; conditions; which is outclassed.

SPVP (or TPVP) consists of Thieves, Guardians, warriors, and Mesmers. You see a few well played rangers, and necros around, but let’s face it, ANET has created a 4 class war pvp system. That is one huge factor with pvp being boring and underwhelming. The fights are always the same, because the same class combinations are up. There is no balanced, and the classes that are played the most are the most powerful classes with regard to class balance and utility.

My suggestion is for ANET to take some of the income, hire some kitten developers that have knowledge of the other classes that are hardly played, and get some kitten balance. Stop inputing new content and fix your classes. 3 months after release and your having to put in new content because your game model is failing. You have a high attrition/low retention rate because the more pvp oriented players want more variety and better balance. All your drawing is pve casual gamers, and to be honest I dont see your gem sales going up with casual gamers.

You really need to take a look at your model.

Concur with what Dizzyd said. Seriously guys, this class is very well put together compared to other classes. I think only the warrior and mesmer classes reach the guardian’s level of solidity.

You want to see bugged/broken, go to the ranger or necro forums. While I think necros (I am one) and rangers complain the most, I truly believe they have the most to complain about. My 80 necro’s build has not changed for a long time because there are not many viable builds out there. Traits are totally bugged and contribute nothing to the class. I have not seen one trait on any build i have run on my guardian (yeah only level 70 sorry not at experienced as most of you) has full utility, so much that i change my build slightly just to use something slightly diff, and i feel im still useful.

Necros, no, in fact people avoid whole trait lines because they contribute little.

Be glad the guardian is in its current state. Balanced and valid.

StugLyfe.2134:

Looks like a team paradigm build to me lol you invented it haha.

First time I have seen this build there bub, go spread your love for team paradigm elsewhere. I don’t even think he was claiming it as his own, but sharing it with the community.

Aside for pimp-slapping this suckup; I wanted to say that I am loving the guardian, and mostly because of this build (or a variation of). I come from the necro ranks, and playing the guardian is not only fun, but it seems incredibly balanced, and well put together. The trait lines and combinations thereof just synergize so well. Trust me, a lot of traits in necro don’t even work, let a lone synergize. You can tell the devs put a lot of time into this class and worked it quite well. I have had fun in wvw, and pve seems so stable. You can be tough as nails and still put out great damage without having to run a glass cannon build. Plus, its amazing healing and removing conditions on those around you, repeatedly. All things you can’t do on a necro, even a necro support with their kitten long kitten cooldowns.

Anyways, thanks for the build, helped me focus a bit. I combine your build with what is posted in the altruistic healing sticky by Brutality, which is also an amazing resource.

Btw, do you run a knights armor setup? Thinking knights armor combined with some clerics and beserker’s trinkets to balance things out. too bad there are no percision, toughness, vitality trinkets.

nah mate, i hate mesmers and elementalists. not my cup o tea.

They need to hire more developers; especially ones that like the class and want to see it do well.

I have an 80 thief, 80 necro, and working on getting my guardian to 80. guardian is by far the easiest to play, and in my opinion is extremely well thought out and put together. very balanced as well. Thief, hits friggen hard, and now the p/d builds are insanely hard to bring down as you can’t pin them down at all. Necro is just underwhelming, even if you’re good and pushing really hard to get conditions on your opponent, or if your a power build, getting them to stand in your wells

Ranger changes makes me think of an old saying. You can sprinkle flowers (weak changes, buffs to underwater) all over a huge pile of poop, which doesn’t change anything because you still have a huge pile of poop.

fellyn.5083:

Alberel Leonhart.9640:

I agree but it’s not so much that they’re being buffed, but rather that they’re being given any attention at all when the other 7 professions all have higher priority bugs that need fixing.

Did you see the list of fixes and buffs for necros? No? Perhaps you were looking at the wrong page then.

Are you kidding? That was a complete list of junk for necros LOL. JUNK!

LOL, the mesmer class and the thief class are played the most in pvp/wvw that it is getting to be mesmer/thief wars, instead of the other classes. I admit that mesmers are harder to level up, but once geared and leveld to 80 dish out a lot of damage and are hard as hell to take down, with minimal effort.

Welcome to mesmer/thief/warrior wars! GOOD JOB ANET! You managed to alienate at least 30% of your community!

i think i might have noticed that my scepter was easily critting for 1k on the third hit while farming orr this morning. I’m still running something similar to zintair’s hybrid. I like having decent power and condition dmg, while runnign about 1500 toughness (not awesome, but not shabby).

Still not sure if I should run a 20/30/20/0/0 build or a 20/30/0/0/20 build for death shroud. I use deathshrouud to get might stacks, and to bounce in to fear, or use DS 4, but I never loaded up on the DS trait line because the abilities are sub par unless you trait to 30 and get 3 sec stability.

oh sorry ascii, did not look at the name before i posted. my bad. I’m just sorta negative right now.

axe 1 was the skill needing a buff, not 2, or 3. Do these guys play this game?

dude, did you level up?

Rangers should have a snipe ability, 2000 range (or whatever) with a 200-300% increase to crit, and a +30% increase to crit chance. something that gives a range class a range superiority. Make it an elite. Friggen warrior buff to bow, when they already have killshot with rifles. LOL at you anet, LOL.

seriously, have you done wvw lately? All i see are warriors, mesmers (friggen so many), and a trove of thieves. FRIGGEN SO MANY THIEVES. Next up are guardians, which I think is the most balanced class in gw2. I rarely see rangers unless i run across the bots at centaurs or just to the east of the northern most supply camps in the borderlands. Used to see rangers all over the place but they have been absent since the shortbow nerf. Necros, well, I see 1 necro for every 10 thief. Seriously. Anet really has their priorities mixed up. I just don’t get it.

where are those found? just curious

it was increased 33%. read the notes carefully. Still, big friggen wooopidie dooooo!

agree, rangers are the worst, followed by necromancers. The only reason they have so many rangers in gw2 is that the ranger is the favored class of the bot.

Serious ranger players are few and far between. however, go into wvw and you see 1000 thieves/mesmers, followed by warriors, then guardians. few eles, few rangers, 2-3 necros.

Ninja bug – followed by quick fix.

What is that? A kind of tactic to show you’re on top of the problems? HAHAHAH joke

ANET is getting rich as hell of gw2 and cannot afford to hire some kitten de-buggers? I don’t buy his sob story. I think Rangers and Necromancers have gotten the short end of the stick since the beginning of this game, while the other classes have steadily increased in their utility and power. I am sick of waiting for anet to wake up and fix bugs. I have 0 motivation to do their stupid new content when my class is ridiculously kittened. I will not spend a single coin more on this company until they actually address issues. As for rangers, I deleted mine. I dont even want to think about going back to it.

Yep me too. This game was not ready for release and has not improved. Guardians, theves, mesmers and warriois are all i see, because they were working. The other classes are kittened and anet is fixing/focusing on the wrong things. Good thing they added new content to attract new players because they are going to lose alot of current players. You dont deserve the solid necro communit you have anet.

Sorry but theses are all changes that wont effect any kitten kittening thing in the game. In fact the things we will feel are their kittening nerfs. Jesus kitten stability is none existent now unless you trait it or stay in a useless form. Kitten you anet

I am done with anet. Their crap optimization and crap game balancing AND their bugged classes dont deserve our time. In addition their end game is nothing but a kittening grind. What a kittening joke

Crap changes for us. Anet im done with this kitten kittening class. Have fun watching your bs game filled with the same 3 to 4 classes. Sick of giving you one istant of hope. Later.

Maybe so, but I think the necro community is just a bit sensitive to other classes coming in here to tell us our class is OP, or they found the magical build. I think new builds are great, but saying we are OP based on his build is, well, rather fantastical.

Look mate, there are no real gear picks/sets until you’re level 80 man. Just level with heart quests, get gear from the karma vendors after doing the heart quest,s and save your cash until you get 80. Or do dungeons and save your badges etc., until you can buy exotic 80 gear. Spending money on anything sub 80 exotic is a waste. I dont think I have been at one level for longer than 3 hours of play. Just economize until you hit 80 and can buy one set (full carrion exotic can be bought for about 12-15 gold if you are patient). After you have one set of exotic, and 1 decent exotic weapon, start grinding dungeons man to get the skin/stats you want, and get your jewelry up to 80 exotic.

Don’t worry about anything until 80.

P.S. GW2 is a grind man, don’t let anyone fool you. It is a grind for gold, material, or badges to buy gear, because GW2’s economy is so messed up that the material you need to buy to make the gear (unless you grinded for the material) costs almost equal to the finished piece.

Dude, I play necro and I friggen good at it, and I have no idea who the heck you are, but I highly doubt you have hit some new build that makes necros op, or that has not been posted prior to this post full of a ridiculous string of excuses. Post a build and a video where your fighting decent players and I’ll rescind my statement. Until such time, put up or shut up, oh mighty savior

I am loosing my faith in necromancer as time goes on. I feel we have a lot of great players who have tried every which way to find holes in all the bugs to produce a decent build etc. I run this exact build, and I play with the same exact variables (might stacks, DS good/bad, DS dancing, etc.) and I just find us having to work so much hard just to get to be par with the other classes. So many bugs, trait lines that don’t make sense, weapons that are sub standard with damage, etc.

Finding out that our DS trait line did nothing to boost DS LF, pissed me off. How the HECK are they just now acknowledging that 2 months after release? Most of these bugs that have been listed since release have been listed PRIOR to release in beta.

I do thank you Zintair for this build, as it helped me fine tune my build which was similar. However, I find my interest in the class slipping and I am afraid that my hopes, which are tied to this incoming patch are going to be for naught.

Mrowqa.3861:

Gryph.8237:

Well, I want to say that FPS in this game has actually gotten worse since release, not better. WORSE. I am getting such crappy FPS, whereas prior to some of these releases I was getting decent fps. Running the personal quest (vision of the pale tree) and the FPS is utter and complete crap. Seriously…. im gettin 21 FPS, and the colors are all blurred out now. Constant backslide with this game.

And what CPU are u using….??

I am running a i7-3820 overclocked to about 4.4 ghz., with 16 gb ram. I am also running a GTX 690 (4gb ram)

GW2 is poorly optimized. I run any game, some of which are absolute bears at max settings easily and achieve 90 fps. In gw2, I get 60-70 in some regions, wvw average about 30 (some dips to 20 – which is the same for lion’s arch).

I highly doubt my cpu is an issue, but gw2 bottlenecks at the cpu, sure, but even decent cpus are having problems with their poor optimization.

Well, I want to say that FPS in this game has actually gotten worse since release, not better. WORSE. I am getting such crappy FPS, whereas prior to some of these releases I was getting decent fps. Running the personal quest (vision of the pale tree) and the FPS is utter and complete crap. Seriously…. im gettin 21 FPS, and the colors are all blurred out now. Constant backslide with this game.

I cant get any of the links to your builds to work. I imagine it is GW2’s inane website inability to allow links to work

yeah, i dont update my drivers unless i have to. and graphics drivers will not fix gw2, because gw2 is cpu dependent and does not depend on your graphics card that much. I hvae a gtx690 that runs at about 30% hahaha.

i use staff for 2,3,4,5, and when I do into lich. I do not use staff for 1. 1 pisses me off and makes me want to point the staff at my head and vvwwwaaaahhhh myself until I’m dead.

are you kidding? LOL I have the same feeling. Learn to death shroud but, oh, your kitten skill tree FOR death shroud is bugged. COME ON! Does anyone not see the kitten irony in this?

Thresher.3049:

Way I see the make-up of careers in WvW with the people I usually play with breaks down to about:
40% heavy armour roughly split between warriors & guards, 50% medium armour with more thieves than parliament, 7% Mesmers, small handful of Elementalists and the other 2 semi-regular necros I know usually do borderlands & I lurk in EBG most of the time.
Any other necro I see in wvw, is either new, lost, inebriated or looking for the jumping puzzle or something.

Where am I going with this? As a business case as most things are including games, you have to look after your regular customers and most popular product lines first because they’re the earners so to speak.

The blokes that make up your minor services for dented, scratched, hail damaged and wobbly factory seconds, every now and then… aren’t really something you’re going to invest a lot of time into. We’ll get the apprentice to buff the scratches out so it doesn’t look too appalling, but otherwise the rest isn’t covered by warranty and if some of the buttons don’t work, then you should invested in what everyone else is using.

Ouch

Unless you are trying to attack new customers or keep your purchasing base large. You would think they would attack more people if the other classes were working. Necro is not a good class right now. You can pimp it out with the best gear and its still mediocre

valid points. signets are not used because the only good utilities skills we have (maybe 3-4) would be wasted if we used signets that are complete garbage.

Knote, know what you mean. leveled a thief to 80 after my necro, and my guardian is at 45. So much more fluid, all the traits/abilities are good that im constantly switching them and never feel kittened. even at 45 my guardian kicks kitten I get back on my necro, and in certain situations, i do ok, but it is too situational, and i grow bored and go back. I think Dev’s just dislike the necro class, did not finish it, and don’t really care hahah

If they don’ fix necros I will leave this class, because it is too frustrating to have fun end game… period. I don’t even know Jon Peters, nor do I want to. his last attempt to communicate to the Necro community was an insult, and I feel he has NO CLUE as to how to play a necro. I hope we have a dev representative that actually plays the necro instead of just looking at the necro profession just on paper. On paper, we look great, in application, with all the bugs, wonky trait lines (TOTALLY LACKING SYNERGY) we are borderline mediocre at best. Seriously getting tired of hoping that necro gets sorted out and wind up usually feeling kittened, and second to GW2’s favorite professions. ( I dont need to say their names…. again.)

Yes, lets put the elitist “I s/t PVP all day long” into their own forum so they can talk about all the wonderful different, rich aspects of pvp of gw2. I tried it, and found it… underwhelming. it’s the same thing over and over and over, to where people have developed a pattern to play it. seems mindnumbing. WvW seems more dynamic. I don’t find WvW even close to pve, which is also mind numbing.

So, yeah, elitists to one side, all the rest of us to another.

And another things, HE even posted it as a PVE/WvW build.

Torvarren.6295:

I am full mm, i killed a thief while I was afk. My 30k health, 2800 armor and the thieve’s lack of AOE and the minions had him down before he had me down.

You posted this in the wrong threat… this was supposed to go in the “phrases you don’t hear in Gw2”

…. or the thief was kittendedly bad, level 4 and did not load stealth.

Yeah, I can’t believe the guy posted his level (10!!!!!) and commented on the class. First 10 levels of all classes are a cake walk and you blast mobs. No traits, what 1 utility skill, and the ability to switch weapons and YOU’RE THE MASTER of your class. joke hahaha

well, I just received my new power supply (1050) and will overclock tonight to see if i get a remarked performance increase. Still is sad to see the gtx 690 not doing anything above and beyond the 570 i had in their before.

Sugram.3106:

if u think necro skills are slow then u shod try meany other MMO’S, my point is that i have seen much slower spell cast’s in MMO’S then necro has & that’s why i ton’t complain about it

Human/necromancer lvl 10

Really? Level 10 and you want to comment that the necro does not feel slow? Have you pvp’d? Have you done any wvw? Both of those aspect depend on mobility, and when you run up against classes that can insta-use abilities, or don’t even depend on their utility skills to down you, then you will see that the long cast times, coupled with the long cool downs make us a crap class at times.

Level 10. Good job. SO you have played a necro 1 day, just got your first trait? oh, no, that’s level 11. Yeah, you’re an expert.

cheers to that. seriously, it is likely the only thing that will keep me playing necro.

yes, minions scale. small piles of worthless garbage become bigger and bigger piles of worthless garbage as you level up

Fun.

Dude, I agree this game has some problems, but D3? My god, I was bored of D3 immediately.

I watch A LOT of spvp/tpvp videos. Part of the problem with both aspects of the game is that you see the same 4 kitten classes, over and over and over and over again. Game is dominated by Mesmers, Thieves, and Guardians. should be MTGw2.

Boring

Second thing, STOP ADDING NEW CONTENT and balance your classes and fix the 10,000 trait/skill bugs that plague most classes. Who wants to spend all their time on a char that is bugged. At first you don’t notice, but then you experiment with the mighty 3, and see, wow, my first chosen class is like playing in the minor league after already being in the majors. Perhaps thats why it is MTG wars, because those are the least bugged classes in the game, besides the most powerful.

yeah, that is why necro will never preform at the high levels, because our slow cast times, LONG kitten cooldowns will ensure the calls wont function vs twitch classes with high fast damage output. Mesmers are just an all around better condition, surivivable, dmg class and necros just cant compete. not really. you can prolong with DS, and hope your teammates arrive to save your kitten

Sometimes I just want to punch someone when thinking the Devs actually thought DS was so uber powerful that they nerfed it into oblivion prior to release. I mean, was Jon’s comment on mastering DS in regards to the Beta DS or the post release DS.

DS is kitten unless you spec into it (and I mean all the way into it) and go power build. Thanks anet.