Guild Wars 2

The norn personal story tells that Jotuns once were a powerful and civilized race which destroyed itself in a civil war. Another source in game tells that the elder dragon hunted the Jotun and Norn. While the Norn got their spirits (and support from them) to fight against the dragon, the Jotun didn’t and had to face the dragons as they were. They were very intelligent and powerful, but all is lost including tradition (like Throuln the lost is probably the last storyteller of their race).

6 dragons rose the last time. It quite interesting that even the survivors don’t tell about them. Odgen, Whisper, Jotun and Norn are known as survivors, but none really tells about the things that happened long time ago.

The highest ranked lieutnants of dragons are mostly dragon themselfes. Tequatl, Claw, Shatterer, Glint, … And those mostly woke the elder dragon.

I found the big bad, but I a missing some pieces to decide what is good for Tyria.

Zhaitan had a lot dragon shaped champions at his side. We fight one in the personal story at Claw Island and three more in the final dungeon. If you are in Orr look up to the sky and you’ll see some more dragons which obviously belong to Zhaitan.

Ceara = Scarlet Brair (no multiple personality). It quite awesome writing to trick a whole community into believing that someone is corrupted and not master of her own actions. I have sadly to confess that she was corrupted and this maybe to the end, but not her mind. Her mind got free. She didn’t choose the path of the soundless (ingnore and survive) and she didn’t choose the path of the nightmare (true sylvari origin) and she didn’t choose the path of the dream (the guide of the sylvari).

I’ll cannot offer a solution for lacking perception. I cannot tell you the real problems of Tyria (I won’t), but I have really fun to search for more answers. Scarlet is “bad because we said so” and that is the problem, because she wasn’t bad. She has gone to the biggest competition ever and wanted to win, while she also wins (in a personal scaling) if she dies.

Regarding the drill: We started the counter attack as soon as possible, while Scarlet started to drill as soon as possible and watched her work. All little things, all the preparations, do you forget that the ships entrances are guarded from legendary assault knights and you have to take down all three to enter. Gather light atunement to take part in the fight which drop while the holo is reloading her weapon. In the backgroud does the laser from the Marionette load, which kills all in the room if the time has exceeded. … What doesn’t tell you that she setup everything to get every second possible?

I came into this thread, because I thought you are really emotional affected from her death. At this point I knew that she is obviously not the person all people are writing about (hateable insane dragon driven mass murder). It took several weeks to gather informations about the situation in Tyria and try to put them into a right order. The final conclusion was some days ago and I ran into a lot of dead ends and misinterpreted a lot. Now I’m on the right track and really scared about things that happen in the game. Scarlet was the only one who gathered a lot power and informations to get closer to the problem. The dragons don’t have the power to do so.

The story is written as it is on purpose. The turn side is to perceive it between amazing fights and dull answers to happenings of our allies.

I never played guild wars 1 and was very confused from the personal story in guild wars 2 and even everything in the world seemed so strange/disconnected/specialized that I thought I have to play guild wars to get some knowledge. A friend who got me into this game couldn’t give me answers to a lot of the stuff, but now it makes sense and I can explore the game a second time to search for even more answers, while I know already a lot.

The result of her dead wasn’t planned, but it gives her peace.

It communicated with me through images of death, destruction, and destiny. I must know more. I must confront it and put an end to this madness. Dated Season of the Scion, 1323.

This is the last entry of her diary and it still doesn’t sound like controlling if she wants to confront it. She talks about a “new master”, not about “my master”.
For me it sounds like several individuals in Tyria want the same and Scarlet was one of them.

After the holo recording Marjory is talking about voices in her head which is funny, because every Sylvari born from the Pale Tree is connected to the dream. And the dream is talking through the Avatar of the Pale Tree. So we have a dragon and the Pale Tree in her head. Are there more? To who does she say this:

It’s not true. None of it. I don’t have to listen to you. Get out of my head!

She could have safed herself at any time, but she didn’t (she has an one-person-teleport-device).

I was in the final instance with my engineer (the control interfaces have another dialogue). She drilled into a great magical concentration. With this concentration you could rule the world, but she didn’t install a collector. She built the machine unstoppable and defended it (she knows that the pact has explosives and uses them).

Need I really highlight the contradiction here too?

Oh this drill doesn’t have a switch to turn it off and we cannot pull the power plug. We’ll probably never stop it.

She fought for every second to keep the drill working and would have left on success, the rest is just in case she fails.

Alice.8694:

The question I am posing is… Was Ceara?

Ceara is Scarlet. There are no two persons in one. She decided not to be Ceara anymore and that’s why she’d choosen a new name.

I don’t think the game gave sufficient insight for any of us to anwser this. But her diary seems to imply she was in conflict with what she would become.

She was in conflict with was she acknowledged during Omadds machine. Her diary mentions another entity talking to her, but she does what she does for herself.
Scarlet Briar: Ever since I came out of Omadd’s machine, you’ve been taking credit for my ideas. They are mine! Not yours.
Scarlet Briar: Let me be clear. I’m not doing this for you; I’m doing it for me. Nobody tells me what to do. Not ever.

Unless you can rationalize to me how an incredibly intelligent person can go from what they were to a psychopathic villain on a suicidal mission to raise a dragon that would most likely wake up eventually anyway.

All a matter of perspective. If you listen to her then you’ll hear that nothing works as planned during holo fight and the final instance shows pretty clear that she was protecting the drill until it reaches the intersection (what she didn’t see in the end). She could have safed herself at any time, but she didn’t (she has an one-person-teleport-device).

I was in the final instance with my engineer (the control interfaces have another dialogue). She drilled into a great magical concentration. With this concentration you could rule the world, but she didn’t install a collector. She built the machine unstoppable and defended it (she knows that the pact has explosives and uses them).

The questions which are open: Why is there an intersection? Why is the magic heavily concentrated there and doesn’t affected sorrounding area (LA and magic?)?

There is a big war happening in Tyria and a small sylvari wanted to change the balance to her own advantage.

I mean really… If scarlet knew she’d fall on the breachmaker… What was in this plan for her as a person?

She didn’t knew, but everything would have been pointless if the drill is destroyed. The initial plan was freedom and she never had the power to gain it. She set up plans with every little detail planned, except us, we destroyed her plans.

I haven’t forgotten that she killed thousands, but I admit that she didn’t have another chance. At least I see no other way and I hope the aftermath in more or less 48 hrs will tell.

Alice.8694:

Ceara as a secondary plot coming in conflict with her actions as Scarlet would have been an opportunity for that.

After a long time thinking about what she has done I figured finally out why (beside dragon). It wouldn’t have matched into the story at all. She wasn’t in conflict with her actions. Everything done was necessary. All of her followers are smiling. Never wondered about it?

The pictures that are posted some posts ago.
The bandit sign is also very often slightly covered on the summit peak in fields of ruins.

Addition to Ascalon: The city was leveled from charr cauldrons in the hope to defeat the ghosts that way (don’t know when it happened, but it’s in the lore).

I made the event to free Falias Thorp and after some fighting I got the daily achievement.

race: Sylvari
class: Necromancer
level: < 24 (during event level 22 or level 21)

map: Caledon Forrest / Wychmire Swamp

DarcShriek.5829:

Horst Hortensie.5420:

DarcShriek.5829:

She says that Tyria has a new master. She is an element in the set named Tyria. Therefore, Mordremoth is her master.

There are some more powerful creature out there and the dragons are quite underpowered. With a sight on dragon themselfes it is questionable why a single dragon should be the master of Tyria. She also says that we will bow before the new master, which is less threaty than it sounds, because you might also bow before a master which is generous (and we know nothing about the “new master”). Dragon is a quick shot and short sighted … there is more.

You’re going to be disappointed.

If the dragons really want to destroy Tyria, they would have done it long ago. They just want to reclaim the magic on the planet and everyone who is in their way is their enemy (the player side is acting equal).
Zhaitan is systematically defeated and ripped into two pieces by a stange blue laser (from which I don’t even know technical details). Kralkatorric was nearly defeated from 6 people and a minor dragon. One of Snaff’s inventions is useable to gain control over an elder dragon. While there are powerful magic creatures are hiding across Tyria (dragon fodder), they do not fight. Instead they are sending their minor minions (Norn, Charr, Human, Sylvari, Centaur, Asura, …) into the fight and pull the dragons to their location that they feel threatened from the dragons and are willing to fight them.
Zhaitan, Karka and Scarlet attacked Lion’s Arch maybe for the same reason, the magical intersection between the ley-lines, but I doesn’t declare why the magical flow got stuck there.
The “generous” new master is just an assumption, because Scarlet communicated with somebody else and at least wanted to reveal the fight that we do not see.

So Thruln the Lost is right in what he says?

I wanted to observe the priory discussion again, but it seems removed.

With a search for answers about the Scarlet story I found some interesting things. One of them are 5 suspected as gods and if so the 6th is maybe on Tyria. The fall of Abaddon is not just a random fractal for the guild wars one lore lovers. I think the gods will take part in a living story (not knowing which).

Konig Des Todes.2086:

And about the miasma – it is the toxins from the Nightmare Tower, but modified to remove the hallucinations but made deadlier. So it’s an advanced form of the Nightmare Tower toxins.

Were do we get this information? The explorators in the priory camp are saying that it is very different from the nightmare tower toxin.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

“we don’t know how to turn human-centric lore to being multiracial, so we’ll just make them false information.”

Oh okay, but gods are still among the most powerful creatures in guild wars 2, while they are probably equal with some other creatures (for example norn spirits).

Konig Des Todes.2086:

… sadly, ArenaNet has been making it an active task of theirs to reduce the gods and their capabilities.

Arenanet didn’t. A lot of NPC in Tyria are telling that they are loosing or lost their connection to their deities. Those who didn’t loose it have a weaker connection. Coincidence?

DarcShriek.5829:

She says that Tyria has a new master. She is an element in the set named Tyria. Therefore, Mordremoth is her master.

There are some more powerful creature out there and the dragons are quite underpowered. With a sight on dragon themselfes it is questionable why a single dragon should be the master of Tyria. She also says that we will bow before the new master, which is less threaty than it sounds, because you might also bow before a master which is generous (and we know nothing about the “new master”). Dragon is a quick shot and short sighted … there is more.

Erukk.1408:

And in the end of everything, Scarlet didn’t want to be saved or changed “for the better”, because she didn’t think she did anything wrong. All the death, the entire destruction of a city… Nothing. It was all part of her plan to free the “new Master”.

It was a plan to free Mordremoth, nothing says exactly that he is her master or the voice in her head. That are all assumptions. And I like to get further and say that we are in a comfortable situation.
If someone witnesses a big problem in the real world and wants to change it, because it’s unfair against a lot of people who don’t have a word in the community and are jailed away, which way does he have to go? Is it a simple and good way to go through the world and tell all about the iniquity? How many will listen? From those who will listen, how many will believe you? What if the real threats (using legal unfairness) are among the common people that you tell about unfairness, will you be heared? … It’s hard to get recognized sane if you know know some endangering secrets and no one will believe you. So take it insane and ignore the situation or change the situation and get recognized insane, while you aren’t. The controlling entity is implied, but not confirmed and the diary looks more like an enduring conversation than a take over.

She couldn’t stay alive for the simple reason that she isn’t that insane like we think. If she would have been in prison, either she would have died for mysterious reasons or we would have to think about the things she did.

With everytime I am in the final instance and look at the informations there I feel sad for several reasons and the worst is the cutscene starting with her face. All the studies, all that work, just to hope for success, because it is not finished the moment she dies (like a breaking heart frozen in time). Please note that she seems helpless, but if she wanted to back out, she could do it at any time she wanted to (she has an one person teleport). She protected the drill to her end!

Konig Des Todes.2086:

We saw four X’s in her lair but saw nothing come of three of them – maybe we could have deduced the wrong target, thinking she’d go after say, the Grove instead.

We saw the pact actively involved in this fight, even if it’s no dragon fight. The players were drafted to their orders to defend lion’s arch (while I expected lionsguard recruitment).

Omega.6479:

I don’t think the Living Story could possibly have anything to do with the Personal Story because the developers have stated they try to avoid contradictions/paradoxes between the living story and personal story. They don’t want to alienate people who haven’t yet completed their Personal Story so I doubt we’ll ever see a continuation of what happens in Orr and with Zhaitan unless they do it as an extension to the Personal Story, rather than through the Living Story.

The Living Story unleashes what is written since release, but that will even change the world. I start to replay several parts of personal story out of curiosity, but the nightmare has to end and the world will change. How will new people go through the personal story if everything around is different (I don’t know how it will turn out, but really heavy stuff is going on)?

Problem: I tried to get into lore and hit several problems to get knowledge of them. After the end of the first Living Story there will be a lot things undeclared even if it is in game.

Personal Story is one of the most important parts, but it’s spread between races and even spread based on the character creation choices. To get all storylines done I have to create 15 characters. Additional is the personal story for a levelling character quite exhausting to follow, because of the level gap between the stories and the “low” xp, causing delay between chapters of a single story.

Dungeons are majorly done from people who want their daily gold, loot and currency. People joining pugs are in danger to get kicked if they are watching the video, because they run the dungeon the first time. While it should rarely happen in story mode, it is recently done in exploration mode.

Skillpoints, Minidungeons and spreaded books (papers and so on) are well spreaded across Tyria and it is basically a pain to walk back to re-read exactly what is written.

World events while most people do them over and over not really spending attention what really happens. In addition are these events done over and over causing a false perception and wiping the uniqueness of happenings (killing Ulgoth and defeating the centaur as an example).

I understand that it is planned, but some people are mainer and never bothered to make a second character, except for special purposes (like placing medium level characters at jumping puzzles for a daily chance to gather silver dubloons).

Solution a library which fills along with the content done. The best location is the home instance and should be account bound. All books appear either as copy (of the original somewhere in Tyria) or as my experience written down in the library after done once. For the personal story and mainer might be the solution of tales of other people appearing with finishing one story part.

I know that this will make a lot of work, but it will give the player more reason to go into the instance, the lore at all is better concentrated as long as it is gathered and with some achievement points for gathering all even the heavy grinder will have a reason to work with the story while it’s still up to themselves if they want to read it. The Living Story should not give achievement points and automatically update to the state of story with every update giving rarely playing people a chance to get into the story.

My english isn’t the best.

BrunoBRS.5178:

1- most of those alliances are just poking fun at the community. they made a largos/tengu and a largos/kodan alliance on that sheet, which would be the “please give me a new race” alliance, since those are the 3 most requested. there’s also a skritt/ettin alliance, suggested by our very own mad queen malafide, the “dumb alliance” :P so don’t take the chart seriously.

The skritt aren’t dumb, they got a hive like mind. I f more and more of them are together, they are very intelligent. The Ettin may have a similar mind, but I have to reasearch it.

BrunoBRS.5178:

2- i think it’s more tied with their race’s assassin roots. precise, deadly killers that only appear long enough to deal the blow. i don’t think they’re phasing out like the mursaat.

If it’s tied to Mursaat, then we have many Mursaat worshipper. Thinking of thief profession, which also could step out of phase and shadowstep.

Abbadon is not the root of the evil and everything you know about magic in Tyria might be still the same with just some more previous unknown magic. After reading this thread which gave me a lot of hints (thank you all), I start to think about dragons again, exactly: six or eight?

Additional I like to point out that the player killed Abbadon in the realm where the gods have him jailed. I don’t want to re-read the annoucement, but after trying to get into lore of GW1, it might be more about how the gods have jailed him. That might be pretty important since Abbadon doesn’t die in this fractal.

Your view is so narrow. You point right, but you are fixed … so many things happened that I even forgot what I did, but I know a lot and will take a new position in this world at the time I know who is the right for me. I touched the nightmare and it is everywhere, I didn’t see it, but now I see it everywhere. The nightmare is everywhere. I hope Scarlet forgives me what I did.

They will have a personal story and it is probably not about Zhaitan. I wonder what will happen with the other personal stories after the first living story has ended. Scarlet changes Tyria forever … I repeat … forever … and this will affect the personal story aswell, since the world is another like the one played in personal story.

Did it twice, counts as none.

Timer ran out, Claw left (Icy rune stones are still available), creatures respawned once and after kill not again.

Since yesterday (or a little bit longer) the creatures of Frostgorge Sound are not spawning anymore.
I am actually standing at Claw of Jormag which is consequently appearing (the timer still counts down, crystals seem to be done). The Ice shield takes a hit or two and resets, because Claw just landed.

Newer mechanics put some unblockable heavy hits on the bosses (p.e. Svanir champion at maw chain). A full block of any attack will make the necro better than every other class.

Inspect armor is slightly misleading, because as I read the title I was afraid of a dungeon request for showing out your gear (which will make a more heavy impact between speedrunner and newbies). The idea is okay, might be more a “show skin (names)” option to let the stats of a armor more on player side.

Do you fight these dragons more than once a day with the same character? Do you get the loot once a day?

If the answers to both questions are yes, then you got all rewards!

In short:
- the extra chest (above the minimap) is once a day and account bound
- the boss chest (usually somewhere around the dragon) is rewarded once per day and character

In theory I will get XP for crafting celestial in the future, but the concern was just about the cancelling of the exotic recipes. It has some downsides (like I have to look now for known results of a recipe in the TP instead of my crafting table until I rediscovered it), but on the other hand we’ll get XP for crafting (to level 500).

With the future ascended armors and the account bound celestial crafted anythings, it is still a waste of money that I did, but I don’t wanted to loose it in a week.

I understand: bought is bought and won’t be resetted.

This is less a question, but more a bug fear. I managed to get all celestial recipes on my crafting characters and now I have two points which are unsure.

1. The exotic recipes are resetted. Celestial too? Do I have to buy the recipes again? (not discoverable)

2. If 1 gets another answer than it stays like it is. I had to buy some of the recipes through TP. Did I waste my money?

There are several shrines in PvE where you can do an emote and get a longer lasting boon for it. I remember in Dredgehaunt Cliffs, where a lot of those shrines.

I also had an invisible splendid chest the last days, so please check if it is just invisible.

The complaints are only regarding dragon chests, why should there be a difference to other final enemies on the maps? Anyone knows if this happens p.e. with the fire elemental in Metrica?
Maybe is culling the problem and not DR. Does culling affect the perception of a player nearby (from the view of a dragon)? I note this, because both Dragons affect the map to zoom out, but other enemies do also.

Some open informations about DR would be nice. Now I feel dumb, when I work on exploration and guide myself into DR.
I’m not the great loothunter, soloed some group events just to know if I could do it alone (even solo the loot isn’t worth it). Did one group event postpatch with a random stranger. He got nothing (died at 1% enemy health) and I got a blue item (Champion Risen Devourer). I explored to map before up to 60-65%.