Guild Wars 2

I’m super proud of you guys. A really really good job! We can do it better!

I couldn’t decide on what to do at that moment… hur hur hur…

Noooo… why Annie? It has a nice White skin :p

The unholy trinity

Spoj The Second.7680:

And those are just the basics.

It’s actually difficult to master all the basics and make it a noticeable difference :P

Especially for the aegis. Like, I have known only 2-3 guardians who give me absolute joy to play with.

Seem to be the case. Except for no communication prior to the engagement and at the expense of a total group annihilation.

Good guardians in Iris’ book in ascending order of excellent/rarity:
(The more point you earn, the better you’ll feel about your guardian!)

• not a Yolo!
• don’t use staff as a DPS weapon
• know when to swap what utility skills
• have more than 2 weapon sets and more than an armor set
• can make every skips
• melee almost everything
• stack might (not gonna debate about the staff#4)
• well timed use of reflection
• well timed use of stability
• well timed use of condi cleanse on your group
• use blind on enemy
• have a good DPS (seeing it from an ele’s POV)
• communicate with the group
• well timed use of pull and crowd control
• well timed use of aegis
• know when, where and how to (single-handedly) revive downed allies

Those are from the top of my head, based on my daily observation.

The particle effect of the burning Alphard makes it very hard to watch out for her body-twisting animation.

draconx.3102:

No more 14/14/14/14/14 builds

Yeah, I’m sad. Was about to try that OP Celestial build

• The Art of Combat: Class balances, runes/sigils and skills rework
• Critical!: Introduction to ferocity
• A New Way to Explore the Looks of Guild Wars 2: (possibly) Gem store skin locker, camera fix/rework and maybe more visual enhancement to the game
• A Colorful Outlook: Account-bound dyes/ dye acquirement rework
• Looking For Group?: Fixing numerous bug/griefing issues related to the LFG tool
• Removing Restrictions: Instance ownership, AoE restriction? (hehe, wishful thinking), exotic-level Mystic Forge flushing
• Account-Bound: Wxp, Legendary weapons, dungeon runes
• A Solid Foundation: New technology and infrastructure to support the heavy-duty areas
• Facilitating Friendly Play: Tutorials and starting areas

I don’t agree that the two men in this regard supposedly share each other’s voice but I agree with Spoj, and thus, Sandy and Cookie.

Level 49/50 is notorious for being non-rewarding. Yet, they are in the tier where the tonic drops.

haviz.1340:

I still haven’t received any fractal weapon, ascended weapon or armour box since the fractured update. Just rings and the tonic. Rng hates me.

I hate you, too. I’m jelly, kitten it.

BeebleBrocks.4836:

haviz.1340:

BeebleBrocks.4836:

more than 1 guardian useless, what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwIV-DzgNVg

and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lodFqmxAaQY

most pug parties take longer than that duo. most people who do these duneons, want in and out. and to meet that standard the kicking ensues, no one wants your low dps/“so called tanky classes” in the party. taking longer ends up meaning someone in your party will get wrecked, sometimes not, but i can’t say I haven’t gone through a non zerker party where someone didn’t die cause they were constantly domed for ranging and moving around. you only have so many heals and dodges and if you’re high hp and low everything else, your health slowly deteriorates and you’re done and that especially goes for the people who are all over the place. there is little support in pugs cause half either range and half melee. sometimes the guard will be at 1200 while your melees are at 120. i think it’s just more of a fact zerker heavies are more desired than any other class and most people aren’t wanting to spend an hour+ in a dungeon.

And 0-guard-full-team killed lupi in 7s and 0-guard-duo killed him in ~50s. So those vids shows rather average times.

These aren’t average times for your average pugs. Hence when guildies/friends do these dungeons without their mates, they kick everyone till they get what’s necessary to meet or come close to their desired kill times. And then in the end, people who aren’t zerkers or have good mates to do these kind of runs have to pay for paths they aren’t “required” for, to do. Those 7s kill videos or the 30s ranger kill videos are set up to beat kill times, they aren’t parties in the lfg tool kicking everyone who comes by till they manage 5 rangers with axes and swords. That’d take hours. Zerkers kill this game along with heavies abilities to deal dmg and have high survive-ability still. Those videos were examples as to what a good party expects of their warriors and guardians, hence their top priority in parties over other zerker classes or randoms who aren’t zerker.

How’s about learn to solo so you don’t have to kick people? The irony is every classes can solo, or at least duo, Lupi. Any pugs that I came across who asked for zerker war/mes/guard only are simply looking for being carried.

Ele solo needs an update, no?

Funny moments of yesterday. Arah LFG always makes me smile.

… except that it doesn’t pose any sort of challenge to that said speedclear group, but drown the pug in tears now.

I love to see Dub in actions, to be honest.

You’ll get exp from running to wp :p

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Spoj The Second.7680:

lol xD

List what you need and we may be able to help with a few if we have spaces.

AC:
p3
story

CM
All

TA
All

SE
All

CoE
All

Hotw
All

Arah:
story
p3
p4

A exorbitant amount of paths, I know. But so far Dub and I have only gotten to a couple ACs and Arahs. Ha! (I’m level 6 atm hahaha)

You’ll probably get to 31 by the time you finish your DM

It’s free right now and I cannot guest to EU

It gives the boss a debuff. Not entirely sure what exactly the debuff is.

I have a personal guild bank filled with stuffs in Server A. Let’s say I want a vacation and transfer to Server B for a week, then come back to Server A thereafter. Would I lose my guild bank and belongings in Server A?

Thank you in advance

This, please! and a mask if possible.

(( Rolling my kitty eyes ))

Lalangamena.3694:

-snip-

and it is not that i am slower but safer in the defensive approach.
there is NO correlation between survival of a group and defensive build!

on the contrary, defensive build/gear hinders you, your overall performance is worse.
a good player and a mediocre player, both will be better on highly offensive build.

I digress. Better players will be as good in offensive builds as in defensive builds. Bad players are punished harder in highly offensive builds than defensive builds. But these challenges are what make a bad player improves (learning from mistake).

In PVE playing defensive is harder, because your are limited by cool downs (as there is no mana or energy ) and you will be attacked faster than your cooldowns will return, and you will always heal less than the mobs/boss hit.
so time is playing against you.

It is hard when you use those defensive skills selfishly. If your ‘team’ knows how to coordinates damage mitigation and shares boon properly, your defensive team is figuratively an armored vehicle. Case in point, a full cleric/magi/soldier team ventured in FoTM, unbound dodge and still facetanked (and rolled) literally each and everything.

moreover, take a good static fractal group of guild that run together levels 40+.
retrait them from damage builds to healing/support builds. in sentinel/cleric/magi/ givers/apothecary etc… gears and see how they manage to complete the fractals.

it will be tremendously harder for those players to run the same content

Let me ask why would you think it will be harder? One thing for sure is it will be much slower and thus too boring to do.

but the diversity of builds and armors is a lie.
they could just delete all armors completely leaving only berzerkers, at least there would be less confusion.
- in PVP and WWW, there are pseudo roles and armor differences, but in PVE nope.

This argument is what people who have little investment in time to research their classes to the fullest potentials complain. They will just look at the ones handed to them and think ‘This is it. It’s the best. No points to do anything else nor search further.’ Dungeons are only a small segment of PvE and ‘speedrun’, a term used irresponsibly and wildly by pugs, is only carried out by a few elite PvE guilds. Trying to correct the current state of PvE by punishing berserker armor is like to save a sinking boat with a fork.

Yes, the AC troll does. I’m one of his victims.

@Sandy: thanks for clarifying it.

@Nikki: LMAO !!!

Clown car at its finest…

When you are teleported to her, she actually takes a big damage herself, and you can dodge the next bleed-melee attack. One thing Sandy didn’t mention is mesmer sword skill #3 can be used to block the shadowstep attack. I find it extremely cheesy =_=

Pugging a fractal level 19 ‘Exp. Zerk pls.’ to find so many WTF moments… Here is one.

Admit it, you just want to see her running around and fighting nekkid right? /:(

P.S.: I have no problems watching a nekkid male though. It would be cooler that way :P

CrossedHorse.4261:

hendo.1940:

But some people should realise that some people may only have one char at 80 – maybe that char is a Necromancer. Should that stop them from being able to run dungeons because “they have no role”? No. They can have a role – the game is flexible enough that it allows them to contribute to a group. People also need to realise that changing builds isn’t always as straightforward as 1, 2, 3. Some people don’t have the gold, others don’t know how to play a particular build. Put someone who usually runs a tanky Guard in zerkers and maybe they won’t do so well so will contribute less over that run than they could in their tanky gear.

Literally the only role a necromancer can have in a dungeon is DPS, and they’re outclassed by guardians, thieves, elementalists, warriors, rangers and theoretically, mesmers since a necromancer has no unique group utility, and anything it can do, other classes can do the same plus more.

Well, that’s still a role. The argument isn’t really about whether or not particular professions are better than others, it’s about roles professions can play. Necros can play a DPS role. So there we are, Necros have a role that can be filled.

Please note, I’m not arguing that a Warrior, Guardian, Thief, Ele, etc aren’t better at DPS – just that Necros can contribute in some way. Imo, they’re not bad at some support (again, not as good as XXX class etc) in terms of DPS support – they have a good blind and they can convert conditions to boons on their allies, they have a skill to res downed players and can clear trash mobs really well (if that group is looking to do so) with their aoe damage. So they have things to do, which is the point, not whether anyone else can do it better.

Minion masters are awesome. They can play very well in dungeons. Hendo’s point is they are not suitable in the competitive speedruns, because other classes do their jobs better. But don’t let others fun ruin your fun. Minion master are awesome, after all.

Recalibar.6482:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

hannah mee.7925:

After playing guild wars 2 since release, I can safely say that I don’t think I’ve ever seen “LFG [engineer/ranger/necromancer].” There are times where I see requests for Thieves and Elementalists for specific dungeons like CM and AC, and Mesmers, Warriors, and Guards are unanimously requested for dungeon runs.

That’s class imbalance if you ask me.

LOL

People thinking Mesmers, guardians, and warriors are the only classes in the Meta.

Please, please please please please go read up on the current meta!

Reasons you don’t see people asking for this class or that class: good groups don’t pug. Speedrunners who “speedrun” in pugs are usually not even playing the meta.

By the way, 3 warriors 1 guard 1 mesmer is so last year.

You sure?

Positively sure! Current speedrun record for Honor of the Wave p1: video. Team composition: Thief/War/Guard/Ele/Ele.

Source: http://gwscr.com/records/current-meta-dungeon-records

kgptzac.8419:

Now now, there is no need to assume an elitist stance in defense of being accused of being elitist.

I stand behind my previous comment: the dungeons subforum isn’t helpful to those who most need help in dungeons. Sorry for not making my example clear on what would make the *subforum helpful: Not only a list of meta builds, but also how they synergize with each other, etc, and how to speedrun paths, etc.*

Note that I am not saying particular people being helpful or not helpful; my comment was about and only about the dungeon subforum as a whole. I am in no position and actually am not claiming an individual or group of individuals not being helpful. I’m also not saying the subforum has no value for it not being helpful.

I think a good example of a helpful subforum is https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players

But let’s stop this tangent. I don’t see discussions within the dungeon subforum that are about “pretend trinity roles”.

What the dungeon subforum community does:
- Offer instruction/guidance to newbies: here and here
- Report Compile Bugs/Exploits/Broken mechanics.
- Discuss strategies for specific encounters.
- Present impressive achievement such as speedrun records and solo kills.
- Offer helpful advices and honest answers to dungeon-related questions.
- Point you to the right resources.
- Offer dungeon-related entertainment in forms of unconventional challenge such as Lupi kill in Quaggan forms, Arah no dodge or Dungeon clearing full Minion Masters.
- Casual friendly chat, and to some extend, making an LFG between dungeon subforum regulars.
- Fierce competition in Fashion.

What the dungeon subforum community is not obliged to do:
- Rate your builds. Please don’t expect get brownie points for creativity either.
- Dictate what kind of teams should be played in dungeons.
- Spoonfeed every information so you can breeze to success. There are plenty of resources to it, FAQ states them all. In additions, strategies will often be changed to beat the old record.
- Comfort every QQ crowds for their unability to fit into a ‘Zerk only. Speedrun’ pug. Pug. PUG!!! (Honestly, why are people bothered by ‘Zerk only. Speedrun’ pug so much?)
- Support every ideas of change. If you ask for a change, win the crowd by reasons.

For sanity’s sake, ‘forum’ is a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged, and should be used kitten. If anyone has a question, ask, and your answer will be delivered. It. Is. Not. A. Wikipedia.

Enaretos.8079:

I can teach whatever starting in 3 hours. If people are up ?

Please teach me fractals.

I have had one of the most fashion snappy Arah run today. Couldn’t really capture the whole group in action, I present you the latest from my ele.

#FashionIsAll, goodbye ascended chest piece and pants, see you all in the far future ;D

Hi Annie, thank you for the kind offer, but sadly, my main account is in NA.

On the ele’s topic, I main D/F ele all the time to complement our mesmer’s warden and reflect. It really saddens me how people in my group don’t realize how much support a d/f ele can bring to the group. Instead they measure competency as how long you can survive in a tough fight

Edit: I sounded like I’m pushing the blame to others for my down time, but it’s not XD. Ele is just frail and fragile like hell. In fact, I had to cringe every time there is a friendly fire such as teammate dodging sideways and me tanking the Svanir’s boss icy breath/Raving Asura’s lightning orb in the face, or when I tried to res and got the bouncing axe of Mossman because someone forgot to dodge :\

laharl.8435:

IrisTheCasual.3742:

I think I’m gonna give up level 50 and just pugging 30 and below for a change then.

Anyways, I’m still sad. Need a hug \o/

hugs

If it’s that group I played with you that once, then you’re probably better off, for sanity’s sake.

Thanks, laharl
They aren’t that bad. I just wish they didn’t refuse to be better. They do have a strong potential there.
Since they are my friends as well, I guess if they need me I’ll just go along until my mind snaps, and then I’ll bail.

1 legendary, 3 accounts, 7x 80s, fully clothed, 4 crafting level 500, 1 full ascended, 200g waiting for rolling, just started playing the TP. Currently 100g on hold.

The amount of gems bought, spent and held… ha!

It’s actually #TeamSandy in disguise. Wanna make a #DubClub instead?

fair point!

Seeing how we never have a chance to run a fotm together. Cruel fate!

But I’m Asian hehehe…

Dub.1273:

Enaretos.8079:

Top EU Lupi killer is French. #soproudbutnotabletodothesame

It’s hard to believe I’ve never met any Kr players so far :/

I’m not french ._.

Burnt.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

IrisTheCasual.3742:

I think I’m gonna give up level 50 and just pugging 30 and below for a change then.

Anyways, I’m still sad. Need a hug \o/

hugs and gropes

I mean… hugs

LOL…. hug and kiss

I think I’m gonna give up level 50 and just pugging 30 and below for a change then.

Anyways, I’m still sad. Need a hug \o/

So, it’s just in. I’m kicked from my usual fotm group. Long story short, I was giving a lecture to the self-imposed group leader of how a staff ele is ‘not contributing’ in a semi-pug group without 100% reflection uptime. Bad move. I got called ‘elitist’ and was told to group up with my other fellows instead of affecting the way-he-wants-to-play. And as a bonus, he has kindly reminded me that he has been carrying the whole group for his entire career and won’t take any advices from an ele who dies a lot (me).

I’m deeply saddened and disappointed. I’m orphan now. Anyone wants to adopt me to your fotm 50?

I swap Bolt to the Heart for Zephyr’s aura over there. The extra swiftness really helps for ele, and when I’m in a tight spot, double dodge away + obsidian focus are what I normally do. Dekeyz has a really good tip for ele at Mai Trin.

Do you even have any, Weth?

If you main a warior or a mesmer, she is soloable. Sandy who just successfully put her down at level 50 can offer some advices for mesmer. As for warriors, I’m sure many of the regulars here can offer you some tips.

For avoiding aoe, the only way is to spread out and practice. Having swiftness is a nice bonus to move around.

Invites sent. Welcome to [Noob]

Spoj The Second.7680:

IrisTheCasual.3742:

Agony.3542:

Just give all PvE mobs permanent retaliation.
El’sploit fixed.

Actually it’s a good idea. It makes boon-removing classes become highly sought after in dungeons.

Not if its perma insta reapply.

How’s about the Mode Change like the Assault Knights (Retaliation → Protection → Regeneration → Reflection → back) to make the encounter less predictable? Ofc, it should switch randomly at random intervals. RNG is too good not to be used here