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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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should quit at the 1 hour mark at Cliffside. No point to continue. Srsly.

No-No's In Speedruns/Pulling Boss tips

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I think ‘speedrun’ here doesn’t involve high level fractals. It just has too much RNG to be able to ‘speedrun’.

To answer someone who advocates the use of banner of defense, if you are the third warrior in the group, and if that is my group, I expect that person use hammer and axe/mace to cc/interrupt any approaching glob of chanters. If the group has an ele, ask for ice bow to quickly detonate everything.

For melee-ing Mossman, cripple or immobilize him, let one tank in front, DPS from behind him, dodge his gouge, or dodge his throwing-axe attack. There is also a technique to hold Mossman’s aggro as well if you don’t have a dedicated tank like Fleshed Golem or Rocky.

For melee-ing Arch Diviner, cripple, chill and immobilize him during his moving ‘active’ phase, burst him (100b) when he’s stunned and using his aoe condi field. Rinse and repeat.

For melee-ing chest seal, go to the far side, interrupt the patch of chanters when they first arrive, group them up and cleave.

For Ice elemental boss in Snowblind, the faster it gets killed, the less pressure will be put on scholar classes such as mesmer and ele. The key is to kill all the adds quickly, don’t get extra aggro, light two fire camps whenever possible and burst down the boss in between.

Duo Lupicus - 50sec

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Just give all PvE mobs permanent retaliation.
El’sploit fixed.

Actually it’s a good idea. It makes boon-removing classes become highly sought after in dungeons.

FotM Backpiece ingredients

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Got 6 dropped in a single dredge fractal, level 50. Around level 30+, I always get at least 1 per run.

Duo Lupicus - 50sec

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This is not properly used and I have copyright on the term, I will see you in court!

Please allow me to correct:

El’sploit.

The proper fix for this issue should be that boss becomes invulnerable as soon as this el’sploit FGS touches them. A good example would be the first boss in CoF2.

Share Your WTF / Funny Moments in Dungeons!

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Wiped at the last boss of Cof p1. Hehehehe…

What is classed as Zerker?

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Zoii, next time you go to fractals, I’ll go with you. Friends don’t let friends pug alone.

No-No's In Speedruns/Pulling Boss tips

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Ele signet of earth shines in Fractals of the Mist (Mossman, Arch Diviner, Mai) and against the Tar boss in Arah p1. Use it when it’s off CD to chain immobilization.

Signet of Air, on the other hand, is very situational, and should be used only during trash skipping.

Best party composition for each dungeon

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The normal setup [DD] usually runs with:

  • AC: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/X, with X= Guard (p2), elsewhere, X= Thief2/War2 or Ranger.
  • CM: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/X, with X= Guard or Mesmer
  • TA: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/Guard
  • SE: War/Ele1/Ele2/Mes/Thief
  • CoF: War/Ele1/Mes/Thief/X, with X= Ele2 (most of the time), occasionally War2 or Ranger.
  • CoE: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/X, with X= any of War, Thief, Ranger or Guard.
  • HotW: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/Guard
  • Arah: War/Ele/Mes/Thief/X, with X = any of War, Thief, Ranger, Ele or Guard.

The better the individual, the less rigid the group composition becomes. For example, if every members of your group is really really good, you can go with 5 warriors or so.

Note for each class role:

  • Ele: Might stacking, FGS
  • War: Banner buffing, low cd Crowd Control
  • Mes: Pull, Reflect, Time Warp, Condi cleanse
  • Guard: Blind, Aegis, Reflect, Stability, Condi cleanse
  • Ranger: DPS buffing
  • Thief: Blind, Stealth, FGS holder, Crowd Control

You have way too many Thief in my opinion. I find thieves not really good in AC in particular.

My typical preferred group is :
Warrior (x2) for high DPS burst
Guardian (x1) to keep party alive (reflects, boons, heal, etc.)
Elementalist (x1) for support (heal, boons) and DPS (Frost Bow/FGS)
Any class here (x1) for various other roles. Thieves are very useful in CM for skipping, Mesmers in CoF, etc.

Even if that’s my preferred grouping, I rarely do it and just say “bring what you want” though I often ask for a Warrior and a Guardian at minimum (bear in mind I’m an elementalist myself). A might stacking S/F ele is good to have to.

Thief is good. A good thief is a perfect companion to a conjure ele. Last night, when my group was at the Thaumanova Fractal (level 50), the thief and I (ele) finished the ooze boss in less than 5 sec while the rest of the party just chilled. We also did the Molten berserker in less than a minute.

Dungeon Mentors [Noob]

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We could run Arah if you want. I’m just a student though.

Tee hee hee… Thanks for the friendly reminder.

To all EU students, I’m looking for 2 volunteers for an Arah run. We’ll have two new EU mentors who specialize in Arah and FoTM and are eager to meet their first students. PM me in game please

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I frown upon what I’ve just read. Calling out for more speed run streaming with ele POV.

General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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You like to? Move it!

http://youtu.be/ecSCaZ_XPlo

Mai Trin lvl 50 FoTM mesmer solo

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Impressive play and nice music. Can you provide some key points in your strat against Mai? I’d like to learn with my mes.

Best party composition for each dungeon

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My next advice would be join Dungeon Mentors [Noob] guild. Contact laharl and ask for his guidance by duo Lupi with you. Then you’ll see the tremendous potential of a DPS guard and one is enough for the whole party.

Post a pic of your character only if your armor is mix-n-match

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Acolyte and Phoenix armor.

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What builds should I run?

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Good for you for wanting to start!

I suggest starting out very slowly, and invest in a good pair of running shoes as they’re your key equipment. Good running shoes can help aid in injury preventation.

Starting out, go out every other day and slowly build up. For me when I started I would run one block, if I had to walk I did so and eventually built up to going 2 blocks every other day and so on. I suggest taking a slow approach bc if you go out too fast, too far, too often you’ll end up hating the sport and getting injury——let your body be your guide on how much you feel like doing not what some schedule suggests..

I never did the schedule thing at all but I think the link below is a fairly good one
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

Good luck!
I gotta admit i copied this from yahoo answers, but i think this answers your question very well.

Plagiarism is a crime!!!

Long way to your answer: Look up the guides for meta -pve-dungeons in the profession specific sub forum.

Short way to your answer: Join [Noob] and look for a suitable mentor.

How the heavys destroyed the fun in PvE

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Remind me of the vet dredge that spawns in the left side of the cage, is extremely resilient against all kinds of attack and can knock people 5 feet away from him should we get too close.

In fotm, guard is only needed for WoR, Stab and SoTA, and war is for banner and cc. Using heavies for anything else is a potential waste of your party slots. A thief and a mesmer are a must in my book, especially when a good mesmer can almost solo anything in FotM.

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Zerk Meta not punished in PVE?

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Spider queen’s primary mechanic is to immobilize players in a poison AoE. Without the AoE when the party stacks there’s not a whole lot left. I’d say that makes the boss far less effective when stacked. It’s a loophole in her AI.

Or not. When ranging you do not get hit by the bite melee attack, which only applies 6 stacks of bleeding and weakness…

Edit : beaten to it by Acerola.

Weakness= most of your hit glance (bye bye)
Bleeding + strong cleave = any glassy classes like DPS ele will melt quickly

Or you can roll something like full clerics or full MM necro to face tank any and everything in the open. Not hard. (Just too hard to get it fast like others, hence must QQ)

Best party composition for each dungeon

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The only advice I can give to OP is to move from defensive role to more offensive role. No amount of defensive buff will make a glass Elementalist viable in dungeons. If the elementalist isn’t built for DPS then they will be even more tanky than a guard and don’t really need a guard defensive buff.

Staff guard is a big No-No. Besides a short boost of might, its DPS is almost too painful to watch. Sword/Focus is a big Yes, because its DPS is nice and gives you more access to Blind, as a soft aegis.

AH is a selfish build. It helps only you survive and if the boss doesn’t die fast, will you be able to solo it?

General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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I’m pretty happy with my daily fotm tonight. We got urban battleground, dredge and Mai Trin, yet still managed to finish it off within an hour, given there is a new member and a pug. I wish everyday is like today.

Dungeon Mentors [Noob]

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noob, welcome to the team

General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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Do whatever, but fix the broken rewards part. I have a streak of 4 daily fractals (level 50) giving me nothing in the daily bonus chest :\

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hey, I can dodge it

Try Arch Diviner’s leap next time. Yet, it’s still dodgeable.

Lilith's Fashionable Dungeon Run Challenge

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+10 for the goggles.
-1 for the spiky skirt :’>

General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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Guys. My guild imploded.

I need a new guild. cries and im not good enough for you sexy dungeon guilds!

#FashionLyfeSoHard

I would adopt you to my guild, dear, but it would be a guild of two :\ You deserve more than that </3

Best party composition for each dungeon

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The normal setup [DD] usually runs with:

  • AC: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/X, with X= Guard (p2), elsewhere, X= Thief2/War2 or Ranger.
  • CM: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/X, with X= Guard or Mesmer
  • TA: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/Guard
  • SE: War/Ele1/Ele2/Mes/Thief
  • CoF: War/Ele1/Mes/Thief/X, with X= Ele2 (most of the time), occasionally War2 or Ranger.
  • CoE: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/X, with X= any of War, Thief, Ranger or Guard.
  • HotW: War/Ele1/Ele2/Thief/Guard
  • Arah: War/Ele/Mes/Thief/X, with X = any of War, Thief, Ranger, Ele or Guard.

The better the individual, the less rigid the group composition becomes. For example, if every members of your group is really really good, you can go with 5 warriors or so.

Note for each class role:

  • Ele: Might stacking, FGS
  • War: Banner buffing, low cd Crowd Control
  • Mes: Pull, Reflect, Time Warp, Condi cleanse
  • Guard: Blind, Aegis, Reflect, Stability, Condi cleanse
  • Ranger: DPS buffing
  • Thief: Blind, Stealth, FGS holder, Crowd Control

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DPS Tests need to Stop.

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Funny enough, I played those knight event with my condi-heavy nade engi and killed the bosses just fine. Perhaps, you guys haven’t read its tool tips? [Mode-change]? Hello? [Condition Crash] when power level lowers the more conditions applied to it? Dynamic Holographic Knight? Hmm…? It’s surprisingly a very balanced fight that requires both DPS and condi damage.

So why the hatred to berserkers?

Ascalonian Catacombs - Ghost Eater

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Read my name….

Lilith's Fashionable Dungeon Run Challenge

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Rendering video, and uploading it after that. Should be done in a hour or two

You have put tears into my eyes, in loving memory of a very dear hero.

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My advice for Rangers

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Long bow and short bow will not work against Jade Colossus, Mai Trin, Dredge, blobs of Chanters, crazy Kitty Golems and Bloomhunger. I’m okay seeing rangers with bows elsewhere but the fact that long bow gives them the temptation to cc the boss whenever it’s off cooldown just irritates me badly. Fractal is the place where sword, greatsword and axe offhands all have their uses, too.

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Oh, it was you! I’m positive. I’m all for dual wielding Infinite Light, though.

Lilith's Fashionable Dungeon Run Challenge

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This is what I’m currently after for my open world content, missing the wings and the bifrost

Sandy has pointed out that this armor will look fantastic on a mesmer with infinite light. If you want to stack legendaries, it looks absolutely drool-worthy with Eternity, Minstrel and Bifrost, too. I have a mesmer friend who does that.

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hehehe… One of my earlier dark versions require 3 sets of gem armor hehe… For fashion!

Btw, the rest of Braham set can be used on Sam’s charr warior. They look rugged enough for a charr.

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Iris, the last one, I WAAAAAANT <3

kitten , I was hoping you don’t like it, so I probably roll a human war again.

So, it was Braham top, Phalanx skirt, Protector (T3) shoulders, gloves and boots and hidden headgear. You have an option to hide the shoulder and it still looks as nice.

Oookay. I found my favorite 2 combos:

Wow, Lilith, I really dig your dye job in the first look. It appears to me that this combo will looks very nice in different color settings.

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Ascalonian Catacombs - Ghost Eater

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Wiping while using (casual) FGS strats is kind of inexcusable imo

Inexcusable for what? Inexcusable for a self- advertised non-casual guild or inexcusable for a training session? or inexcusable for showing up in a sneaky stream which was kinda getting out of hands?

As Tree has said before, it’s no big deal and Ani shouldn’t have been too agitated about it. And your remark just makes Ani’s over-reaction (sorry, pal) more sense.

Sorry guys, I’m out of this discussion. It has been derailed to what I deliberately assume to be a personal attack. All of the strats presented above have proved to be successful against Ghost Eater. Hope the OP has received his answer.

P.S.: I’m one of the eles who were in that stream. And god forbid, I have run with [DD], [SC] and [DnT], as well as with pugs. I know what I’m saying and what can happen. In additions, friends know I’m bad enough to take half of the blame whenever it fails.

Suggestions Dungeons/Holy Trinity

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Please allow me to echo this sound response:

No.

Lilith's Fashionable Dungeon Run Challenge

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Asura looks cute in anything. Really. Just running around in a fluffy skirt is too kitten cute to me.

Lilith's Fashionable Dungeon Run Challenge

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First and foremost, I think you should consider changing your guard’s hair style. She looks… too proper to fit in any revealing outfit ^^!

Secondly, black is sexy. Form fitting is sexy. Those two make the revealed skin parts look more desirable, me thinks.

Then, I remember that you’re making Sunrise :\… Hence the final look with a more angelic feel to it.

Materials used: … don’t remember…

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(( Sandy in pretty pony color )) —> rofl

So Sam wants: exposed boobs and shoulders, high heel, and… fishnet? Whoa… let me into this challenge, too.

Ascalonian Catacombs - Ghost Eater

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You two probably need a room. Just sayin’.

My advice for Rangers

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my main is a Ranger. I get this disfavour-Ranger feel when attempting higher level of fractal 36+

from I gathered, the despise is on relying on LongBow, which is a dps-broken weapon.

I have switched to short-bow, I suggest you try the same.

O . O!!! (( lmao ))

Please, if you cannot dodge with your sword main hand, at least use a greatsword.
Seriously, please use at least a melee weapon set.
Seriously please!
Please!!!

Best class to solo Arah?

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Neat idea!!! Let’s hold a dungeon forum tournament! We’ll need an animal for each team. I’m gonna test all those tonics to fight the ones which can knock others back

On the other hand, my fotm 50 tonight ended up with dat feeling D’:
(( My friends all know how I badly I want the daggers and they already have an excessive amount of those ))

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Ascalonian Catacombs - Ghost Eater

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I’m not making it up. I can tell you exactly who 3 of the 5 people in the group were but I have no idea about the other 2. One had your tag and one didn’t. Honestly though calling people out isn’t cool, since everybody wipes every now and again and there is no need to name names when the point I tried to convey was conveyed.

PM me the names plz, and the link. I didn’t realize a vid existed until you mentioned it now. I didn’t realize a 4x FGS stack had failed or even could fail, unless the pull was bad. Bad pulls happen every once in a while – usually it’s when the boss aggro’s an NPC instead of the puller.

EDIT: this could all be academic. Diplomatic Dictators also has the [DD] tag, so it might not have been us. They’re a PvX guild on Kaineng.

I liked your post before the edit where you trashed your own guildmates over something that is no big deal really.

And you can fool the kids, but you can’t fool me. I know who was in that run.

This line is rather unnecessary, Tree.

I can understand Ani’s point of view as we never attempt to stream any of [DD] runs to gain public recognition, much less a stream from an initiate who is still under trial. I’m under an impression that when you were talking about that particularly bad wipe, you have pointed at [DD] as a whole and it is natural for Ani to defend his guild.

After all, there is no big deal between a 6 second or 8 second kill. We have been fighting in the open with the same group composition way way before this FGS idea popped up. It’s risky but it’s fun to see the big damage. After all, it’s precisely why I mostly play ele: to see the BIG numbers.

Edit: a good guard is one who knows how to make this 4-FGS strategy viable. I’m sure more than a couple of group leaders have raged at their guards for forgetting their rotations. It is hilarious and makes my tour less tedious.

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I know it!!! Having me in the group is a recipe of disaster. You have been warned!

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:O

Did I happen to be in that livestream???

Edit: it is surely a high risk, high reward strategy. Any group will fail that without a proper communication! What matters most is the pull, I think, especially if we don’t have a guard.

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Pug TA makes me sad.

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Between the two, I choose the left one, Kirin.

Name 5 change that would blow your mind!

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1. Fix various issues and bugs in Dungeons and Fractals
2. Moderate and suspend all the LFG griefers
3. Add precursor crafting
4. An option to toggle down particle effect even more
5. Add more titles which are rewarding but difficult to achieve

Disabling backpack view for all characters

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Wanze, good idea, +1!

To OP, you can keep everything high but the character model quality and limit set to lowest! So you can enjoy the landscape but not the other obnoxious looking players (sarcasm).