Guild Wars 2

I have a question; has TC ever had the outmanned buff ever?!

Trick shot ( shortbow 1 ) it says .25 activation when it’s actually .95…

swinsk.6410:

I think this is a cool idea.

Regardless 3s or 4s, great idea imo.

^ , but first I’d like them to fix the the borken skills which we use.

Travlane.5948:

swinsk.6410:

Travlane.5948:

swinks is right but we arent useless….but close to it. and thats only in comparison to what other classes do in PVP. thiefs….eh if 8people put down ground skills or area CC its a thieves nightmare. just nto playable unless we go 22k hp and chill with sb. since backstab dmg is usually 5500 in spvp. and eeryone else DPS crits are like 3800 on high end. we arent exatly contributing AS much bc we can only do it for a moment. need to make us more sliperier in our traits i think. drop the 10% dmg in trickery and give us (50%) faster endurance regen. or some kind of thief armor that falls off after so much dmg (similar to necros life skill)

Your numbers you’ve stated here are really dependent on the build/runes you are using.

I have backstabbed people for over 22k in wvw as full burst against an up-leveled warrior.

In spvp I have backstabbed a warrior who was frenzied for 15k.

In spvp my backstab is anywhere from 5-6k to 9-11k depending on how bunkerish the opponent is.

The problem I have with the thief at the moment is that there is no “inbetween” build really.

Since the 3s got turned into 4s, it’s impossbile to run d/d as effective as d/p or even s/d.

That extra second kind of killed the semi-burst d/d thief.

hate to call bs but ive NEVER had any more than 12-13k on any lvl 80 zerker or non zerker build. 6500 roughly on steal sometiems more….7k on CnD …but its all armor specific . if u hit a lvl 80 for 22k he had noob armor on ….theres no way around that. if idk about spvp as 6500 is usually my max …but then again maybe i just dont fight many zerkers in there? idk . 4500-6500 is my norm max for BS in spvp. so steal for 2500 CND 4k adn 6k on backstab gets you to maybe 50% hp on a warrior and 50% on guardian due to lower dmg. then you are out of intiative and there on its all skill play by the thief. 4 secs will be going back in all but spvp ….mainly bc i think they refuse to admit and utter f up. but im just glad wvw is gonna be back. we are such fragile lil flowers. deadly thorns tho!

The highest I’ve done is a 17k backstab. I didn’t even have Runes of the Scholar, nor did I use a build for maximum backstab. I’m sure with the right food and correct traits, 20k+ is achievable for sure.

Eliyahu.1467:

lLobo.7960:

It has similar dps as a auto-atttack chain, but it has a built in stun and a evade.

They could revert the dmg back to previous nerf stats or;
They could reduce the delay between the stun and the attack.

Both might be a bit OP.
Im happy with either way.

The stun doesn’t last long enough to hold you in place for the actual damage.

PW needs to be buffed badly. IMO it was never OP and shouldn’t have been nerfed to begin with.

Yup after like 70%-80% of it being casted, you can just move out of the way and you’ll still be swinging and damaging the air molecules. It needed a nerf because with quickness it was very strong, but considering quickness is now only 50%, pistol whip should be reverted to what it was originally.

Gturtle.2864:

I don’t think the average FA player much cares if our opposition respects us.

I also don’t think the average FA player much cares if, after one week, the score says we’re in first or not. The truth is for about five and a half weeks this match up was what all WvW match ups should be- it was close and competitive. Sure TC took home some victories, and Kaineng took home some victories, and Fort Aspenwood got to take home “also ran” ribbons, but from week to week the outcome wasn’t set in stone and it always seemed like one server kicking it into high gear for one 24 hour period was all it’d take for them to overtake the opposition.

Then TC got transfers, and Kaineng got some people hopping off early on what looks like the last stop of it’s meteoric rise. Now this tier isn’t the most balanced and competitive.

Sure maybe FA could get the geeks out to develop and assign duties via work breakdown structures to maximize our ability to hold down and upgrade important structures and if we stuck to it for the rest of the week we could take second in this match up, but by slightly more points than our current trajectory predicts, but I don’t think FA is paying anybody enough to bother with that.

Being From FA all I care about is what TC and Kaineng thinks about me, I mean how else can I sleep with such a heavy burden on my mind?

Hi guy I’m new to the game and was wondering if TC could give me some pointers on how to zerg. Sometimes I don’t know where to follow the big blue dot and it gets my brain all confused and then I have to take advil and man that’s a drag! So I was wondering when I’m in a zerg how can I make it so that I press the auto attack very fast so I can dominate everyone??

Doomdesire.9365:

It was never OP to begin with. In fact, I’d strongly argue that it was UP to begin with. A thief, who wastes a two utilities and ALL his initiative for a burst that would be entirely mitigated by a stunbreaker. Makes no sense how it was even considered op. Pre quickness nerf, you could achieve the same results anyways. The people who died before still died. 15% didn’t make a big enough difference, it was only to show the noobs that Anet was doing something, when it was simply an illusion, because it wasn’t overpowered. At all.

If you traited it with utilities than yes it was underpowered (as a stunbreak would render you pointless), but I mean for general use without the need of anything, the 15% extra damage would actually make a difference, the calculation were done up in the thread. Read up.

Ethersin.3270:

I know this is kind of late, but here is a short clip of our naked karaoke zerg on thursday before reset in Kaineng.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmdvoHZmBo

That’s freaking awesome! Love what you guys did

Oozo.7856:

Issues.5789:

Oozo.7856:

Issues.5789:

Oozo.7856:

Convenant is giving AoN a bad name. He posts a movie a while back ago that greatly inflates the number of people they were fighting. A 4v20 followed by another 4v20? Not even close.

He says the competition and skill is much greater in T2 but they choose to post a fight against a PvE guild trying to figure out how to portal bomb and failing. Why not post a movie against one of the skilled guilds that gives you a good fight instead?

He says he has been to the lower tiers and insults the roaming guilds there but he has never even fought any of them to my knowledge. I’ve played in T2 while on Dragonbrand. I’ve fought JQ. I’ve fought in T8. There is no significant difference between the individual skill of the soloers and roamers from the top tier to the bottom tier.

Yes, there are more good players in the upper tiers but there also more bad players. Why? Because there are more players. End of story.

Also, I just realized that KAINENG is in T2. Kaineng is not a server known for it’s individually skilled players. In fact, quite the opposite. Kaineng (the new version) is one of the least skilled servers on an individual or small group basis that I’ve faced since playing the game.

Dear diary, today my feelings were upset so I decided to get very mad and write about my feelings,
sincerely yours, Oozo

Yeah, you can just feel the RAGE in my post.

You: Insult guilds you have never fought.
Me: Doesn’t insult guilds I’ve never fought.

Too mucho rage. Yes it’s actually part of my daily ritual, as soon as I wake up I log onto forums and insult every possible guild I can in 30 minutes. I went up from 15 to 18, almost a personal BEST! WOOOOOOOO!

Are you Convenant?

This post is not the first time he has insulted other roaming guilds (which he has never even fought). So far he has done the following two things:

1. Exaggerated the number of enemies beat in a fight
2. Propped up his guild by insulting other guilds he hasn’t even fought.

I’ve heard nothing but good things about AoN and I’m sure they are a very strong guild but doing the two things above makes you look bad. That is the kind of things try-hards do. If you want to be viewed as the new OG then by all means – go for it.

I’m not Convenant, but for the right price I’ll be anyone who you want me to be. As towards number 1, maybe yes maybe no, who knows. Sometimes it’s just a guess how many we fight for example today we killed probably two 25+ kaineng and TC zergs. As for Looking like OG, I think I’d have to do some very bad things to accomplish such a task.

Oozo.7856:

Issues.5789:

Oozo.7856:

Convenant is giving AoN a bad name. He posts a movie a while back ago that greatly inflates the number of people they were fighting. A 4v20 followed by another 4v20? Not even close.

He says the competition and skill is much greater in T2 but they choose to post a fight against a PvE guild trying to figure out how to portal bomb and failing. Why not post a movie against one of the skilled guilds that gives you a good fight instead?

He says he has been to the lower tiers and insults the roaming guilds there but he has never even fought any of them to my knowledge. I’ve played in T2 while on Dragonbrand. I’ve fought JQ. I’ve fought in T8. There is no significant difference between the individual skill of the soloers and roamers from the top tier to the bottom tier.

Yes, there are more good players in the upper tiers but there also more bad players. Why? Because there are more players. End of story.

Also, I just realized that KAINENG is in T2. Kaineng is not a server known for it’s individually skilled players. In fact, quite the opposite. Kaineng (the new version) is one of the least skilled servers on an individual or small group basis that I’ve faced since playing the game.

Dear diary, today my feelings were upset so I decided to get very mad and write about my feelings,
sincerely yours, Oozo

Yeah, you can just feel the RAGE in my post.

You: Insult guilds you have never fought.
Me: Doesn’t insult guilds I’ve never fought.

Too mucho rage. Yes it’s actually part of my daily ritual, as soon as I wake up I log onto forums and insult every possible guild I can in 30 minutes. I went up from 15 to 18, almost a personal BEST! WOOOOOOOO!

Oozo.7856:

Convenant is giving AoN a bad name. He posts a movie a while back ago that greatly inflates the number of people they were fighting. A 4v20 followed by another 4v20? Not even close.

He says the competition and skill is much greater in T2 but they choose to post a fight against a PvE guild trying to figure out how to portal bomb and failing. Why not post a movie against one of the skilled guilds that gives you a good fight instead?

He says he has been to the lower tiers and insults the roaming guilds there but he has never even fought any of them to my knowledge. I’ve played in T2 while on Dragonbrand. I’ve fought JQ. I’ve fought in T8. There is no significant difference between the individual skill of the soloers and roamers from the top tier to the bottom tier.

Yes, there are more good players in the upper tiers but there also more bad players. Why? Because there are more players. End of story.

Also, I just realized that KAINENG is in T2. Kaineng is not a server known for it’s individually skilled players. In fact, quite the opposite. Kaineng (the new version) is one of the least skilled servers on an individual or small group basis that I’ve faced since playing the game.

Dear diary, today my feelings were upset so I decided to get very mad and write about my feelings,
sincerely yours, Oozo

Travlane.5948:

calling people names actually makes you look like a prepubescent child. im a grown man with a family i support im 6’3 and a body builder with a BS in psychology (more than willing to trade facebook info but im sure you wont which says enough ). yeah so nice try tho. Caps is only on the important KEY words incase you were to simple to notice. You could read just the caps and understand the hole message in a nutshell. personally i like skimming most messages as they have lil to nothing of interest/value and putting certain words like that can allow others to quickly decide if they would like to read it or not. most recipes online are in caps…doesnt mean its rude or yelling….i cant put bold or italicized on here as i dont see the option. but im sure you took this into account being more smarter lol.

how is using 3 2x in a row maybe 3 if speced then waying 15 seconds for initiative to get back full a trade off compared to spamming skills without reprieve? i dont understand? yes i did forget fury might swiftness on steal. good point. thieves do get a lil offensive boost from steal if specced right however guards get alot more offensive and alot more defensive and alot more heals….. so…………..? :P it is does matter where it comes from bc from steal a thief has an option to get up to lik 6 or 7 things from it at a time whereas a guard gets triple that from f1 f2 f3 etc. utility skills cancel each other out bc they both ahve the same amount. so you can really only look at the class specific Fs.

Do you even lift?

Thief – Trick Shot (Shortbow Skill 1) – It says .25 activation time but its .95
Please address this as shortbow is the only viable thief ranged weapon set..

AikijinX.6258:

Yes the trick shot says .25 activation time but indeed it is .95.

Wow.. I didn’t even know that’ that’s a massive difference..

Zuer.2814:

I wouldn’t mind the channel if we weren’t rooted in place for it. Thief is about mobility. Make the stun a daze and make movement possible during the channel.

Ya that makes a lot of sense, let’s make it to the point where we evade everything and allow movement with it. I also think every hit you land you get +%50 more crit damage. /sarcasm

On a serious note, does Arena Net even reply to answers or do they just have the forums as a front so they pretend they’re fixing things?

Elmuerto.9840:

PW is now call Waving In the Air – and is a form of Tai Chi. It was usable with 100% quickness (although admittedly a tiny bit OP) but to have an ability only made useful with a second ability is not great. Now even with 50% quickness passers by wave back with confused looks on their faces and continue on their way as you’re rooted to the spot in serene enlightenment.

You’ve portrayed my point in a comedic sense, thank you!

Shukran.4851:

PW sucks even if u add the nerfed 15% dmg because of his slow channeling. so i just like the damage as it is but want a faster cast channeling. anet can remove stun if they need but please
fast
channeling

that’s all

Please stop posting about the Thief class..

I figured I might add some input into the thief forums, plus I like ONI

There’s two parts to it; the first part is static in the sense that it moves on it’s own, but the second part you can move and direct where it lands. None the less, it’s a very gimmicky skill and should be reworked to make it more fluid.

Travlane.5948:

issues…wrong not how it works but in essence they do work more together theres a difference to 5% dmg of skill and dmg from weapon so they are different but the 15% makes the 5% get more….

What? I was talking about “Combined Training” which causes Dual skills to deal 5% more damage, plus the 15% damage buff to the skill is an equal of 20% total.. I don’t know what you’re talking about lol

If they give us the 15% damage back, with the 5% trait, you can trait for a total of 20% more damage which is quite a lot and will make D/P actually playable again.

Nyspar.6103:

Issues.5789:

You’re finally growing up! I’m so proud of you son

out of my thread!

Deep down you love me

Rafahil.2857:

I’ll advocate any buffs to thiefs, but did 15% really make that much of a difference? I’d be better if they buffed the evade on it and decreased the delay between the initial attack and the flurry, otherwise the auto attack chain is still the way to go.

It was nerfed because quickness made it very OP, since quickness is nerfed now; logically we should get the damage back. If I’d was to choose I’d obviously want it to work much smoother than it is, but it mainly use it to punish the down and people who res.

You’re finally growing up! I’m so proud of you son

The reason pistol whip was so broken was due to the 100% quickness speed we got. Considering that the last patch quickness was brought down to 50%, can we have our 15% damage back please and thank you.