Guild Wars 2

That guy had his HP halved by 4 stacks of bleed.

Are you for real?

Well, I don’t really expect pug groups to perform anywhere near perfect(even if there were such occasions).
I just wanted to share a point of view I have not only viewed but tested as well.
Now, I know equipping banner skill and using it’s buffs and positioning it for maximum party potency is not something that should be expected of a pug-er.
What I’d just like to see is a warrior just using FGJ.Even 5 signet with FGJ is way better than just 5 signet.It shows that the person really pull his own weight and learn how to master his class – to use skills he deems helpful
The very reason for such threads like this is to be informative.We’d like to share info on a build that just doesn’t belong in a certain part of the game.

But anyway, just have fun and that’s that.

Edit: for some reason the reply from Shadowfist was quite delayed, hence my lack of proper reply.
See, here’s the thing.I can’t take you seriously anymore.You have claimed certain things in your above posts, and when I ask you to put evidence for them, you ignore that and carry on your ramblings.
There are a few ways you can run a 5 signet build.Such as using for example might/stamina/dolyak.And since I don’t know which skills you take, or which skills any other person takes, I say the bonuses that come directly from the build.I guess a saving grace of yours is that you showed that you can properly count.Very good!

I have the right to write here as I do because I tried the build myself.The 5 signet build is the best leveling build as it is.
Oh and, calling me “kiddo” doesn’t really give you much credibility either.Neither does calling me a troll.But carry on.At least I know one more narrow-minded fool to avoid.

@Shadowfist

I would honestly try to reply, but I guess your awesomeness blinded me.Such greatness as yours is one of a kind.I bow to you!But I guess I should make a feeble attempt nonetheless.

Did you read my last paragraph? You go on about things I either haven’t mentioned, or things that have completely different meaning behind them.
First off, the removal of the holy trinity(tank,healer,dps) means that there should not be a pure dps class.I said should not , I didn’t say is not .Comprehensive reading, I like it!
I’d also like to see you quote any hypocrisy and nonsense here, especially hypocrisy.

Shadowfist.2708:

Wrong, again. (Starting to see a pattern here.) Individual makeup is nowhere near as important as the groups makeup. The only point I can even remotely agree with without laughing is that you should have enough armor/hp that you won’t die from just being looked at the wrong way. You seem to think that all high DPS builds have to be glass cannons.. and this is blatantly wrong as well.

I don’t seem to think what you think.You have no idea what I think outside of what I write.So I say it again – don’t put words in my mouth to make your points more valid.
And what do you mean by individual<group, considering you run a single player sub par build in a team fighting zone?Even more so, if you’re in a pug(or even a guild group) and it turns out that your group lacks support(as far as a single aoe might buff) are you still stubbornly going to run your precious 5 signet?Talk about teamwork when you contribute more than what a stronger ranger pet would provide.

Shadowfist.2708:

I run 4 signets with either Endure Pain or FGJ, depending on the situation I’m in. The 250 precision from those signets provides more crits, which is more damage. I’m not sure how your brain warped this in to not being useful. More damage to the mob means fast kills and less damage to the group. Common sense applies. As far as “pulling down groups” and “performing sub par”… I can only assume you’re referencing your own life story, as this has yet to happen in my groups. And mash two buttons? Are you daft? DPS builds involve a lot more than mashing two buttons.. lmfao. I carry people. I don’t need carrying.

Now you go very close to direct insulting.Yet for all those 380 hours played, you didn’t notice that the trait gives 40 precision per trait for a max of the grand 200.Oh but wait! you’d want to use your elite right? So that means your whole build gives 160 precision and effectively locks 3 utilities and a healing skill just for the sake of sub par damage increase.You also lose a trait slot for all this…goodness…I just won’t comment the common sense part…

Shadowfist.2708:

I don’t think you, or half the people in this thread, understand the bigger picture. Just last night we pulled a group of two vets in CoF. I took the one on the left, the group took the one on the right. By time they finished dropping the one on the right, I had mine down to ~45% health and I was still comfortably hacking away with ~60% of my own health remaining. Think about that for a minute. Two mobs with the same health pool and in the time that it took FOUR people to kill one of them, a well built and intellectually played signet warrior had the remaining mob down below half health and kept him from engaging anyone else in the group.

So, the bigger picture is that you’re a beast that can solo the game while a volcano erupts in the background with metal theme rocking along?Suuure.
How do you play 5 signet intellectually?The build makes it so you lose damage if you weapon swap, use utilities or use adrenaline skill.The thing it promotes is only hitting your target.So where does the intellectual part come in?

Shadowfist.2708:

So if I’m so godawful terrible as you all want to come in here and claim, why am I putting people like you to shame?

Easy answer. It’s not the build. It’s not the player. It’s the combination of the build, and how well the player utilizes it. Stop trying to say a build is bad because you’re bad. It makes you look really foolish.

Once again you put words in my mouth.I never ever said you’re a bad player.What I said is that the build sucks for dungeons, simple as that.And how exactly do you put me to shame really?
You have no idea if I’m a bad player.And the build is bad.Simple as that.

Yep, it’s awesome! Surprisingly enough, I find far too few armor options that I like for my thief.No wonder so many people go for the human cultural T3, despite(or because) it’s …openness….

Koop.4602:

If you dont like what ppl spec then dont call out for pugs.
Who are any of you QQing about specs to tell other people what to use. Ive been in plenty of groups where warriors were not running 5 sigs but full tank and had the dps of a wet noodle. We didnt kick them or even say a word, we were happy to have a 4 or 5 member.

If you have nothing constructive to add to the topic, then don’t post at all.Do yourself a favor and read this thread from the start.Doing so will answer most/all your questions.

Shadowfist.2708:

Mesket.5728:

Now, if you have nothing else to add to the debate I suggest you keep youself away from posting before you get moderated.

Before I get moderated… like your ignorant little rant post did? Maybe you should take your own advice junior.

The point is, you all come here and complain/stomp your feet about signet builds and call them “Bad” builds when the truth is, not everyone chooses to play as support, and THATS why you think it’s bad, because they don’t play the way you want them to play. Maybe you don’t know this, so allow me to make this clear to you: raw DPS warrior builds are not necessarily squishy, nor do they have to support the group. Not all builds have to support the group. THATS THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SPEC SUPPORT OR DPS.

As a DPS/signet warrior I’m not squishy, I survive more than comfortably, and I consistently hit like a mack truck. People LIKE having me in a group because they know this is going to be a fast, easy, meat grinder run. We bring OTHER people for support. Thief builds that don’t support the group aren’t “bad” because it’s obvious common sense that they are in a DPS build. Same thing.

My DPS more than compensates for the lack of some limp-wristed support. Get over yourselves. Warriors can be extremely effective and useful to a group as DPS without support. Not that hard to understand. Not every class in a group has to be support. In fact, it’s idiotic to have everyone in a group running support.

Seems you honestly have no idea what you’re talking about.There should not be pure dps builds, for the mere fact that there are no pure tank builds and nothing can provide a secure environment for you to go crazy.
The best builds(for dungeons at least) are those that provide not only a fair amount of damage, but a good support and enough armor/hp that you won’t die just from being looked at the wrong way.
I have said this about a million freaking times already – a single utility skill provides more damage than all of the utility slots+major trait focus(signet trait)of 5 signet. Everyone chooses how to play by himself, they’s free to do so.Solo builds are something people don’t care about.But if in a dungeon you fail and do sub par cuz of the build, you’re pulling down 4 other people.PUGs or not, one should at least try to help out instead of mash 2 buttons till his fingers start bleeding.And as said before, if you do well as 5 signet, either you’re carried, or the dungeons are that easy.

The reason I quoted you is because you don’t understand the train of thoughts of this thread, and if you do, you quite well try to derail it.Don’t start discussing things that aren’t mentioned just to somehow prove valid an otherwise hollow point.

Hahahaha, Mjolnir costs about the same as a legendary weapon! Nice!
But anyway, most people would agree that they like it more than Juggernaut(was that the name?).

There is only one flawed point I can think of.The reason for the difficulty of the weapons is obvious – they’re really kitten.And you should feel like a boss when you go pawning mobs/players in Wv3 or whatever.
However, having grinded for the infinity+1 afternoon, all the joy of having the weapon may be compromised.You’ll have grinded so much to the point of sickening.

Indeed…and just to mention.I’m striving for Bolt, but checking the recent prices for charged lodestones(3/100 atm) it turns out I need about 250g just to get those 97 left.

Decide what you will aim for 1st – having a precursor ready at the inventory, or having all other components? Don’t aim for both, honestly.

There will always be people that will not be content.
I do understand Anet’s position, and I hope you guys do too – if they change the way a precursor is obtained, a bunch of people already having them will jump on the forums to cry, because they feel they put more effort to get theirs and should somehow be “refunded” for the extra effort put.
There is no golden middle here.
I’m sad to say this(Zap…I won’t see you for many many months…) but the best right now is for the precursors to stay as they are.

And you’re mistaking what elitism is.The term means that some people only want the best of the best from their own performance and others’ as well, and will go to great lengths to make everyone they want do 110%.Elitism in this situation would be if there was 1 cookie cutter super-optimal dungeon build, and we would say we’d kick anyone who doesn’t use it.That is elitism.
I don’t care what warriors use, honestly, as long as it is not a 5 signet.

Oh yes I would, without a second thought.
Why? Because he no longer is depending only on himself.He depends on 4 other people, and they depend on him.His success will be theirs, and vice-versa.
That’s why when you use such a single-player build in a team situation, you fail big time.

Oh, and I’ll break it down a bit for some of you.The reason you don’t die much/ever as 5 signet, is because you are a non-factor.Aggro is generated by quite a lot of factors – your health, armor, damage done, are you ressing someone(oh yes, troll bosses are so fun).So the only time a boss will target a 5 signet warrior, is when that warrior is either on half HP or less, or his party members are doing so little damage, that he miraculously is the top dps-er.
I’m honestly baffled.How do any of you consider that the 5 signet build is even remotely viable for dungeons, or even 60-70lvl+?
At 80 in dungeon, you drop a precision banner, and just the precision from it is like 60% of the precision gained by using almost all your utility skills for, not counting the crit damage boost.Point is, this build is not for damage doing.The increase it provides is abysmally small compared to the alternatives.

Schwahrheit.4203:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8RG6c7hKat0

The build is legit. Its just that all he needed to do was cover positioning and more escapes.

Mm, nobody said the build wasn’t legit?
It’s the play style that was average, and the selection of only moments of pure owning without much/any fighting back.
Record a 5 min long video of killing rabbits.Same stuff as this.
Also for the video you posted, 1 immobilize and … G_G

Edit: just to note, by “1 immobilize” I mean immobilizing him not during his HB combo, but when he’s actually running away.

Hhhhhhmmmmmm…
To start off, you need to give us some more info.What will you use that build for?PvE?Dungeons?Wv3?
In the end, play what you like.If you’re having fun, then you’re doing it the right way.
If you don’t have much fun with warrior, try other classes.
Simple as that.

The only place for dual axes is when you farm the chain events in Orr.For everything else, they’re completely useless.

RedDeath.2980:

I personally use a Greatsword and a Hammer as “defense”… Mainly just go to town with your charge into a frenzy 2h blade, throw your greatsword, whirl through them- then switch, F1 behind them so your greatsword goes through them, weaken them, smash them, whirl, switch… Dodging in between keeps you alive and the 5 seconds of invulnerability does wonders. The only problem you run into is when a mob is purely “death to melee”… I learned this in Story mode Sorrows Embrace -.-

Just always remember…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Vfg5d2w0Iao#t=4s

Dude, that made me rofl REAL hard! Thanks!

And using some of the signets reduces the damage you do, which was the reason to use this build in the first place.Just using 2 signets means you drop to 120 precision…any other glass cannon-clone, but with all utilities effectively granting 120 precision…(1 signet is Rage, other is perhaps cond.removal or w/e).
The 5 signet is good only in solo play.Anyone saying it’s good in dungeons simply isn’t right.
I’ve had dungeon runs with 5 signet heroes that have said they’re better than me coz they die less than me.What such heroes forget, is actually how good they are when a boss targets them for more than 3 seconds.Which in fact doesn’t happen almost at all from my experience.

Yep, a lil over average.I actually did not see you being targeted at all in team fights when popping Frenzy.Also, at about 3.05 there was a player coming for the cap point all alone and instead of bull rushing him outside of the cap area, you just waited for him to come.Stunning him outside of it and obliterating him there would be the ideal case instead of wasting time.
But anyway, good video considering it’s your first.
Oh and another advice: instead of putting moments when you just blow through your enemies, just put the fights that you have enjoyed the most, even if you lost in the end!
Edit: there’s something about that thread name, but I just can’t put my finger on….

Maybe a bit off topic, but what do you guys think is best trait line for leveling, and are there traits you consider mandatory for quick exp-ing?

Kefke.2435:

I found the thief’s damage in pve to be quite lackluster to be honest. My warrior did more damage and had an easier time at every stage of pve. Also, Warriors are much tankier.
Most people will tell you that the thiefs defense is good dodging – well, last time I checked Warriors could dodge too.
Overall I thonk the thief’s damage does in no way compensate for it being squishy as hell.
Just to give you an example:
As a lvl 70 thief in straits of devastation in full lvl 70 blue equip a PINK MOA can bring you down to 10% health before it dies if you only autoattack it.
Warrior doing the same will hardly take a scratch because your healing signet can reg against the moas damage with ease.

Sadly that’s not a valid example.See. the thieves’ forte is stealth and burst damage.You try to outlast and tank a mob or player? You’re doing it wrong.That’s what a warrior does.75% of the warrior class is their auto attacks, 15% other 4 skills and 10% utilities.
The most problematic thing for warriors(mine is 80 mind so I do know a little) is exactly that – aside from auto attacks, they don’t have all that much going for them, and it’s boring as hell.Warrior pve?Auto attack till bleeding, with occasional swiftness skill.

Point is, every class has it’s problems and shortcomings.So comparing them on such base level is pointless and not valid at all.

You honestly have 4% crit dmg as glass cannon?…..

And if you put X weapon in off-hand you get :

Mace – vuln stacks and an uber aoe knockdown.
Shield – 1 sec stun and 3 sec invulnerability.
Warhorn – snares removal with swiftness, and vigor for extra dodges.

Damage isn’t everything.Even more so when you’re dead.

We don’t have a specific niche of our own.
Our best burst can be avoided if wary and is situational at best, also making us very easy to kill.
Our roaming isn’t very good unless you have sword/warhorn but then you may hamper your build.
Our adrenaline skills are far too lacking, and easy to avoid.
Our endurance isn’t high unless you build yourself as a tank, but then when the enemy team sees that, they’ll just ignore you and leave you for last.

Our problem is not that we’re weak. It’s that other classes can do some things a bit better than us and still give more to the team.This results in the class not being very popular in tPvP.

irinawds.9627:

There are bad players, there are not really any bad builds.

There are bad builds actually. Such is the 5 signet in dungeons.It’s just not good enough, simple as that.I’ve made a topic about this some time ago and laid my arguments, but I’ll mention a few here.

What does 5 sig provide? 40 prec per unused signet means 160 precision(assuming you use your elite skill…). Now, this 160 precision isn’t party-wide, it’s only for you.

What does precision banner give? At 80, 90 precision and 10% crit damage party wide. Meaning, your party bonus ends up at 450 precision and 50% crit dmg from just 1 utility skill.

So, do you now see how just 1 utility skill is better than your whole build? Put 10 points in tactics for inspiring banners, and you’ll hardly have to move the banner during fights.

Edit : every player with half a brain and semi-decent team can complete all dungeons in explorable mode.
I can make it without any utility skills at all.Does that prove anything?No.It only shows that you can be carried, or that the dungeons are not so unforgiving as to require everyone to be at 120% effectiveness.

10/10, For Great Healing!

The skill is just utter garbage and needs complete rework.Last time I checked, during rampage you couldn’t even use your utility skills so…

It’s a bug with the Fast Hand trait.
Sometimes for the 1st switch in combat it doesn’t trigger and the swap is full 10 seconds, and most of the time(really often) the swap is 5 second cd even out of combat.

Okay, so this setup you give will perform well, but there are some tweaks that will make it even better.Do note I give my opinion, and it may well differ from yours in what a dungeon build should be like,
First off, increased longbow range is useless(completely). I advice you to switch it to inspiring banners and put a banner of precision on the endure pain slot.
For endure pain – the skill is garbage at the moment.It lasts 3 seconds instead of the intended 5, and sometimes it bugs even further, and when the seconds expire, you take all the damage you ignored during the skill, but as a spike(which results in instant death).
Also, off-hand axe is sub-par in dungeons.You might want to switch it with mace(mace 5 is gold, and vulnerability from 4 is always good), or shield for more survivability.My advice is to pick mace.

For me , it’s boredom.Almost all of our skills are “bash and smash your opponent”, with the occasional condition applied(bleed, vuln, or w/e).
As was said above, this game removed the holy trinity, yet with the skills and options we have, it awfully reminds of a pure dps class that has sub-par utility skills that aren’t just worth using, and no diversity.

Warrior is real fun in PvE, and quite hard to go into PvP with.

But if you ask me, no matter how underpowered the class is, if you have fun with it, then heck, go ahead and enjoy yourself!

Edit: but if you roll warrior simply because the lack of nerfs, then yea – don’t play it.

My guess is that the OP is a thief with a little too much on the conspiracy side.Funny enough, most thieves considered the change to AS(assassin’s signet) to be due to the other classes’ QQ about it. Maybe this guy here thinks he can do the same…i don’t know…
But in any event, with both of the skills in question being bugged, there’s no real way to go any lower than it already is….

Yes, I do care?And where’s the problem in that?
But I’d rather if people just don’t see what some uninformed troll like you posts, for they might get misdirected from a proper advice.The main problem with you is that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

There is only one(1) buff that has poor stacking, and that has a big impact on dungeons.That is fury.It is the only buff that has such poor stacking and can be easily provided by just 2 people.
ALL other buffs are real help to stack.You ever saw what happens when you constantly chain aegis and protection?It’s…beautiful…but as I said, some clown like you can hardly think such things through.Make all of us a favor and just go back to the thieves’ forum.

The only advice I can give you is to start building such a tank at level 80.Any time sooner is a waste of time imo.And by time, I mean the time it would take you to level up, since as you said, your hitting isn’t really that big.
But if you enjoy it, then rock on! I hardly think of anything that can make you more tanky other than potions and food and maybe some tank oriented sigils.

Are you sure that the place you were really was a dungeon?Because in a dungeon, there is no such thing as abundance of support.Not in a game where bosses can 1-2 shot you to death.
Maybe it’s just me, but running every dungeon for tens of times, I’ve yet to see such an abundance of support to the point of it no longer being good, and yet to see a pure dps person not utterly failing.
Aside from signet of rage, all other signets are utterly sub par.All of them.

The problem lies in the static bonus.40 precision per signet with 5 signets gives 200 precision(or 160 before lvl 30) as soon as level 10.
But! As you level up, you gain stats, and due to that, more stats are needed to get some values.You will need about 30 precision for, lets say, 10% crit chance at level 10, but you’ll need about 100 precision for 10% crit at level 40.(numbers aren’t accurate, giving example)As said, signet build is static boost, so with the leveling up, you would need more and more precision to maintain that high level of crit that is the selling point of the build.And, at level 80, to focus your entire build on a measly 200 precision is complete foolishness.

0/10 , he isn’t even trying…

What is the point of this thread? Are you asking a question? Seeking confirmation? Just trolling?
Because as we’ve seen, you already have a set opinion.And that makes you asking a question rather silly.

Mind also telling us what you’ll use that build for? sPvP? Farming? WvW? Dungeons?

Have you guys really watched the video?All his uber high crits were done to players either ressing someone, while in downed state, or when being surprised with bulls rush due to other fight going on.
And even then, they didn’t bother using stun break and dodge roll.
HB can make 100k damage for all I care.You learn to dodge roll and then come talking.

If you want a pure tank for dungeons, warriors aren’t the place to look. I’ve found that when I go from full soldier’s runes to power/prec/crit dmg gems(berserker if you like), the difference isn’t all that much.At least I myself don’t notice it as much.
But then again, I can’t say for sure.The best thing to do is to go with a good group(because going with other than that is just self torture) and a semi-glass cannon build.From then on, decide if your tankiness is enough or lacking.Care that this advice may cost you quite the silver from repairs though.

Tried it.Was kited to death.No mobility and gap closers.

Thanks for the nice replies! I guess I was just unlucky to meet a really capable thief in the runs I’ve been to..

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

@ phaeris because quoting never seems to work:

Getting hit for 10k in WvW isn’t even that much. As far as damage comparisons go, you realize you’re comparing the thief’s burst on 3 skills that take up all their traits and utilities in WvW, where you can build for something like +80% crit damage from gear alone, to one warrior skill in sPvP gear (which is only around +30% crit damage) and the warrior skill still comes out on top.

It’s easy to go OMG THAT THIEF HIT ME FOR 10K but disregard the fact that you have a skill on much shorter CD that hits for 2k 9 times in the space of 2 seconds. Except, not really because HB is obviously one of the most powerful skills in the game, damage-wise.

There is a little, or no, wait, a HUGE difference here.Thieves can sneak in stealth behind you and hit you while stealthed. Warriors must face you, and hope that you won’t use that “pro” dodge roll thingie.Coz then they’ve wasted bull’s rush and become pretty much useless.
If you get hit by bull’s rush, stun break skill and dodge.Max 3k damage taken.If you do neither, then you’re an utter noob and should shut the kitten up.

Well, I consider rolling a thief for alt, but I have quite the doubts.I rarely PvP, but when I do it it’s with my necro or warrior.Soo…how are thieves doing in dungeons?
Every time I ran with a thief in the party, I never really felt anything more than a person being carried.The thieves may have been bad, but not once have I seen a thief provide any party utility(apart from aoe stealth, but mobs’ aoe kind of negates that) and their pve damage seems rather lacking to me.
Are thieves really bad in PvE, or dungeons, or I’m completely mistaken?
Any info is appreciated!

Even with wider arc, the 3-target limit remains.It’s good for whirlwind rush, but aside from that it’s just not that good.
At those events, mobs rarely live more than 2-3 seconds, with 15+ players waiting to aoe them immediately.Your job is to do as much damage to as much mobs as possible.GS just doesn’t do it.

I’ve just ran AC with 2 elementalists, 2 thieves and me.Had to school the ele’s on actually using their water aoe heals…one was 80, other was 4×...
It was a nice solid hour and a half run on path 1 with lots of hair pulling caused by people who didn’t know what their skills do.Maybe it is just me being spoiled running all 3 paths for 1 hour total with competent people, or maybe that is some sort of elitism…don’t really know.
What I do know is that you all will meet every sort of player in dungeons, and most such meetings will be far from pleasant.

Farming what, where and at what level? Maybe you mean farming veteran mobs 1 by 1?
Provide more info in the future please

I’ll assume you mean the 2 event camps in Cursed Shore(so far the best mob farm as is), and say that you really need damage traits.For weapon – double axes, all the way.Melee weapons have max 3 targets limit, but with axe 2 and 5 you can ignore that, which makes double axe the best since the mobs are bunched almost all the time.
I seriously advice against the use of longbow(rifle is just….no) because of the time needed for the skills to land(adren skill and 3). By the time they do, the mobs will be dead/dying, and you would have done almost no damage, resulting in really poor loot.
The best for farming is having green mithril jewels with magic find(rares and exotic provide minor stat boost and only a 1%MF increase, and they’re just not worth it) and runes of the pirate(the cheapest so far, about 30s each). Get 5 superior runes of the pirate(will net you about 50% MF) and on your 6th slot put a major rune of w/e it is with 7% MF(pirate, traveler, scavenger I think).Other superior runes will give you 10%, but they also cost 1g+, so you decide if it’s worth it.Buy 2 superior sigils of luck, 1 for each weapon swap, and never use 2 luck sigil weapons at once(bonus doesn’t stack).
The best scenario is to have traveler rares for 18% MF(each item giving 3%), but I myself have gotten dungeon exotics for the stats(only my boots are traveler’s).
So, what’s left for you is food buff.Use either 30%(most common), or 40% – use it only if you can have constant boons, otherwise you won’t have any bonus at all.
Just to say, with these you’ll be quite squishy and you won’t do as much damage, but you’ll have magic find of 50%(runes) + 15%(weap sigil at 25 stacks) + 30%(jewels) + 7/10%(6th slot item) + 30/40% from food buff.Without this, any other type of farm is slow and time wasting.I’ve gone quite into detail just for a simple question, but for some reason I’ve the need to properly explain how a real farm is conducted.

Side note : never EVER go into a dungeon with magic find gear on.Just don’t.

The devs have said multiple times that when they consider a change, be it a bug fix or a skill change, they take a full week of testing it.So, one would think that for the week of testing, if the change was too major, they would tone it down a bit.
Just because you think the change was due to forum QQ, does NOT mean it really is.
Their goal is to have semi-long to long PvP fights, and having a scenario where a class takes away 75% of his enemy’s HP before even going visible is not supporting it.
Also, math anyone?For the signet “nerf” the change goes 5×15%=75% overall damage, compared to 50% single hit damage.
To be honest, every single complaint of this change is a kid’s cry for they cannot global a light or medium armor class anymore.

Devildoc.6721:

While a certain Dev’s favorite class, that has the highest base HP, tied for highest base armor, and highest melee and ranged damage gets buffs.

I’m sort of lost.Which class is that?

It strikes me as odd why other classes come to the warrior forums(or just any other forum than their own class’) to seemingly grief and say stuff like “omg why are you complaining!”.
To such people, I ask you to do this : check your facts, you sad little clowns.There is not a single warrior in the tPvP competitive teams.Not ONE.As said before, this is the first time since release of game that we get some bug fixes, albeit lacking.
@Wayfarer
An “OP” skill of an “OP” weapon that nobody actually uses…suuure.A bug fix that we waited for more than a month, and which was reported since game went live…
Now do me a favor, go to all the other class’ forums and cry, showing how sad you are.