Guild Wars 2

Chris.3290:

What changed on YB that you guys are ticking +400 during the day?
We understand that SBI is out to lunch, morale-wise; but Mags is a different matter.

They dont have +400 a tick, its all the stomps that gets them the points.

jubjub.6084:

Jaxs.5830:

jubjub.6084:

Almost every WvW guild knows its not common practice to GvG on a close week, or a week where their server needs to be pushing. I think its quite obvious YB falls into the second category this week.

I wish you folks would stop putting WvW where it should be PPT.

… every PPT guild…

PPT isn’t the deciding factor in WvW since the release of borderlands bloodlust. While it did take a nerf to its original glory, those point do add up, and fast.

Yes because YB is doing a lot of stomping? WTF are you thinking with that response?

jubjub.6084:

Almost every WvW guild knows its not common practice to GvG on a close week, or a week where their server needs to be pushing. I think its quite obvious YB falls into the second category this week.

I wish you folks would stop putting WvW where it should be PPT.

… every PPT guild…

Sykper.6583:

But mags, if you were really about open-field fights, couldn’t you just sit your groups on roads non-stop in-between keeps? Actually I am surprised you just don’t chill at the spawn points for SBI and Yaks on your BL…after clearing up WPs.

Not sure if you noticed, but the entire reward structure and character progression is tied to objectives.

Snafu.7412:

Arya Whitefire.8423:

Jaxs.5830:

Arya Whitefire.8423:

I can’t speak for the rest of Yak’s Bend, but I don’t play to fight, I play to win. And I play for PPT. I also play for crushing the enemy’s morale whenever possible

Out of morbid curiosity, how exactly are you crushing the enemy’s morale without fighting?

Well, for starters, a single person willing to dedicate their day to sieging up, guarding, and tagging siege in a keep, is easily worth an entire highly skilled zerg in the field. Yak’s bend has a lot of people willing to do the non sexy, non fighting, grunt work, that is required to win wvw.

This guy right here, somewhere Devon Carver is smiling with his arrowcart figurine.

lol

Arya Whitefire.8423:

I can’t speak for the rest of Yak’s Bend, but I don’t play to fight, I play to win. And I play for PPT. I also play for crushing the enemy’s morale whenever possible

Out of morbid curiosity, how exactly are you crushing the enemy’s morale without fighting?

Merrikk.6790:

if you’re only looking for open field fights, you just really are bad at WvW.

You mean really bad at PPT, there is a difference.

lordkrall.7241:

Oh, thats funny, because based on the WvW guilds I have seen and fought with/against in WvW every single one plays for fun rather than rewards.

Why do you folks treat fun and rewards like they are opposing forces where you can have fun or rewards, but not both? There is no reason you cannot have fun and be rewarded at the same time.

I can go complete a world boss for a guaranteed rare, each boss, once per day, not to mention the chest full of other loot, often with another rare. Takes very little effort in most cases.

Yet something that took me 4 weeks to finish rewarded greens and a few other odds and ends. The only thing of value was the draconite ore, of which I can get the same amount doing 4-5 world bosses in one day simply by watching the timers.

Seems legit.

style.6173:

Actually, I think the better solution is that stability should clear and prevent immobilize. Also, stun breakers should be able to break any immobilize/root in the game.

Also my cleanse should have immobilize higher on the priority list, far as I can tell it is one of the last for guardian cleanse.

Ancient Ranger.3276:

This is a selfish thought. just because the majority of the population base lives in the United States does not define their prime time as being better than someones else’s prime time that lives half way across the world.

How does the current system not do exactly this, but in reverse?

We have enough NA players for many servers. We have only enough of other coverage periods for a few servers. Your servers ability to compete is not based on what your NA population is, it is based on what your off hour population is. Making those players more important and more valuable and thus those play periods more valuable to your servers success.

NA prime is really the least important period of the day in the current system.

You cannot do a different point system for just the season itself because the week to week play is what determines your seeding in the season.

Tachii.3506:

Dat ninja cap of fully upgraded Maguuma Garrison.

This sentence is incomplete.

Carpboy.7145:

I should clarify, im getting a tag for the purpose of attracting pugs. I can only get a guild group going if a lot of people are online and up to it, and since im often online at odd hours thats not very often. I realize with pugs i wont get the best coordination or players, but its what i got. Im just looking for what would give me the easiest time in supporting them with stability and other needed things you can’t rely on a pug for. With those in mind tho, i think guard may be what i want. Im mixing my stats to get 17k health, 3k+armor, 30-40% crit chance, 70-80 crit dmg, 500-700 healing power, and 2k power. So would AH or meditations be better?

AH isnt support. Better to go a shout build, imo, if your goal is support.

I am not in favor of extra rewards for winners, maybe a title would be fine and a permanent finisher, not the silly stack of.

I am in favor of the chest having decent loot for all folks that completed the achievements.

Yes we all play WvW for the fun of it. Yes we would be out there anyways fighting loot or no loot, but that same logic applies to PvE.

Why is it that I can do three world bosses have three guaranteed rare or better drops, plus a chest each time that often has a rare, dragonite ore, and other stuff. It takes like no time to do because of the timers. I can do this every single day.

For a seven week league event, of which as a roamer it took me 4 weeks to get the achievements done, I get a bunch of greens, some dragonite ore, and some books of knowledge.

The issue is the disparity. Why does PvE get so much better loot then WvW regardless of the amount of effort that goes into the tasks? Living world events have better, more unique loot and I can finish them in a day, not 4 weeks. Why does each world boss give a rare or better, yet we do not get a guaranteed rare or better on a wxp rank chests, not even for the first one of the day.

I am not saying thank you to ANET for yet another predictable and lackluster effort at rewarding WvW.

One of the big mistakes we see from folks starting out on small man groups is the over use of defensive gear/builds. If you are running 5-10 you will spend a lot of time fighting larger groups and you need to kill folks fast, not whittle them down.

Qxan.8491:

Grats SBI on the 3 times you killed me last night….3v1, 4v1, and 3v1 /sarcastic golf clap
I’ll go back to counting my bags again…..

Are you QQing or bragging? Your post is unclear.

I do not think this game has true server rivalries. The matchup system is too RNG and the players move around too much.

Meglobob.8620:

WvW is not mean’t to be ‘balanced’ in any way…

Its really small scale warfare 5-100 player groups vs 5-100 player groups, with solo roamers.

Just like the ‘real world wars’ it is not balanced at all. In the real world wars are won by the side with most industrial capacity, ie…produce more weapons than opponents, better technology, better co-ordinated, better use of logistics and best communication.

WvW reflects that very well.

The only part of GW2 which should be balanced is sPvP, there is no need at all to balance WvW or PvE.

Yes because real war was online and folks did it for fun on their evenings and weekends?

PvP in all its forms, including WvW, is about competition and competition should be balanced if it is going to be worth doing. In the case of WvW it is not so much balancing class vs class, but server vs server, ie coverage wars.

Why do folks make such a big deal over open field siege? You cant go close to a tower without some out of reach siege monkey hitting you with something, yet folks freak out over open field siege which you can just run over and kill… makes no sense.

denimdan.8642:

EB was a blast last night, looking forward to the weekday warrior fights from mag.

on a side note, i see mag is still headhunting EVOH ;D

Who is EVOH?

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

BG put in a lot of effort. The server organized and people stayed up late or logged on earlier than normal. Lots of people did boring stuff

Most people do not really care about how much time you spend farming gold to buy your transfers, so it does not count.

NargofWoV.4267:

You guys do know there was a particular issue with town clothing and fast travel across a map.. right?

You know that it was just one particular issue that could have been fixed… right?

Radioactive.1248:

You guys literally run a 50 man guild group, and then you add in about 20 pugs.

That sounds like quality play right there.

Furiousbeard.7602:

Jaxs.5830:

Furiousbeard.7602:

Now we just have to sort out these gold league burnouts.

I love these statements. Mag was never a T2 server in the first place, nothing at all to do with burnout. You silver league hero’s that didn’t bother fighting for your spot in gold, can have your ranks back now that it is safe.

You guys fought so hard to play in gold league so it’s not our fault you got spanked for 7 weeks.

Rather be the underdog for seven weeks than dominate for seven weeks. Rather not be the target of choice for transfer trash. FA seems to have lost its core. There was a time when they too would have fought for that opportunity.

Furiousbeard.7602:

Now we just have to sort out these gold league burnouts.

I love these statements. Mag was never a T2 server in the first place, nothing at all to do with burnout. You silver league hero’s that didn’t bother fighting for your spot in gold, can have your ranks back now that it is safe.

Caroline.4987:

LOL…like anybody’s gonna assume we’re winning just a few hours into the match. That’s just silly!

Do you actually pay any attention to what goes on around you, how the game works, and what people do, or do you just flounder about in game and on the forums?

Caroline.4987:

Because we actually lost coverage the last two weeks. We got rid of the fairweathers…at least, we think we did. =S

yes because fairweathers never reappear when you are winning…

Radioactive.1248:

Dang I wish we could fight Maguuma when they werent coming off gold league burn out. Wasn’t the same maguuma I remember from before. At least you guys got some good fights so I’m sure your guilds are sharp

SBI had more people and more coverage before league, not sure why it would be different now.

Caroline.4987:

…It’s 3 hours in? Why no PvF yet? =(

Caroline.4987:

I don’t remember how many seconds this skill takes to fire or whatever conditions that skill lays down. I just remember “push button to live” and “push button to kill”

watching brave heart before reset again?

not that I care that much, but it takes me 1 night to complete the normal living world, not 4 weeks. Not a good comparison.

If I can get a guaranteed gold plus for every dragon I kill per day., why cant a rank chest and season chest have that?

warriorjrd.8695:

A true wvwer doesn’t care about the achievements because they play wvw for wvw.

This is such a fail argument. Every aspect of the game gets rewards, and all the PvE rewards are significantly better than the WvW rewards. For what reason?

Playing WvW for the fights and the fun doesnt mean you should never be rewarded for your play. It may not be why you play, but if one aspect of the game is getting decent rewards for their play time, they all should be.

Nothing new.

Yay for someone else that played on BBS’s

Do you remember a turn-based post-apocalyptic game? I have been trying to remember the name forever.

SoS NA is still pretty weak, imo. Still a server largely carried by off-hour population.

1) server with a lot more people then mag
2) server with a lot more people then mag

I am sure we will be going back to the same RNG crud as before with the continued wide matching range that they promised to ‘tighten up’ and never bothered to.

Your entire post makes me nauseous.

Le Rooster.8715:

x per fection x.2096:

That farm in SoS Garrison. Finger is numb from hitting AOE loot over and over

But we kept you out of garri, so we still won =)

./facepalm on so many levels

Pretty please stop crying about 2v1. Its part of the game. Deal with it.

Excalibur.9748:

Jaxs.5830:

Of all the servers I have played on Maguuma is a pretty low drama server, nothing really between any of the guilds. Generally speaking Mag is a play as you like and make fun of everyone that takes it too seriously kind of server, which lends well to low drama.

I wouldn’t say we have the best coordination between guilds though. More informal collaboration based on current situation, then overall coordination.

I would rate Maguuma as a very high drama server. Your server got the best forum warriors lmao.

Not sure how PvF against our opponents equates to how guilds on the server get along.

I didn’t even realize gaisocks was still active, you see the odd one in the zerg, but that is it.

Of all the servers I have played on Maguuma is a pretty low drama server, nothing really between any of the guilds. Generally speaking Mag is a play as you like and make fun of everyone that takes it too seriously kind of server, which lends well to low drama.

I wouldn’t say we have the best coordination between guilds though. More informal collaboration based on current situation, then overall coordination.

I really think folks are missing the point.

I have a level 20 that I pimped out just for running around doing killshots and the stat stacking is too high, imo. The amount of damage I do is crazy and with the high mobility and careful play I can generally escape to safety if I am cautious.

Sure I am not going to win a 1v1 against a decent player, but really they are in short supply and if I play like a sniper I get plenty of kills.

I think low level players defensive skills should stack high, perhaps even higher, but offense imo is too stacked at these levels. Does make me giggle like a school girl when I play it though.

XacTactX.6709:

I’m talking about three servers here,

Blackgate
Fort Aspenwood
Henge of Denravi

Although their coverage and WvW participation are in different leagues, they all won 7 rounds undefeated. Besides the first week match with BG/JQ/SoR all of the matches that these 3 servers had were blowouts, the competing servers never had a chance. The players on these servers are not to blame, they all should enjoy the rewards they earned, however I think it will be unhealthy for WvW in the long term when some servers have a monopoly on winning. I’d like to see more competitive matches in Season 2, WvW will be more fun for all of us if that happens.

And I’m from Dragonbrand, I’m not sore about anything, we never had a chance at 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.

You did have a target rich environment for fighting though, better then being bored at the top.

Alex Behemoth.4952:

Jaxs.5830:

If you cannot tag what your group is killing while playing support then the issue is you and not the game. I play full support for my group, its never an issue.

Look lets not get into the whole you suck argument or get better argument. I don’t think you can argue that the game does not give any incentive to play support. When you tag an enemy you are going outside the support role. Therefore my point still stands.

Your point is laying flat on its back, imo. My argument is that the game doesn’t need to give incentive to play support.

Tagging takes very little effort (one hit) and with the odd exception of a very hectic fight there is always a bit of time for tagging. Tagging is also needed for stacks, more damage helps group, applying some conditions helps group, crits can give vigor or other benefits depending on spec, etc.

I just haven’t seen the tagging requirement as being a problem.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Well, I will say that objectively, being the stomper is preferable to being the stomped.

Many of us disagree with that statement.

Target rich environment > winning.

Alex Behemoth.4952:

This game does not incentivize helping other people. There needs to be a system in WvW where you can get XP and loot by giving boons to other players or healing them while they are in combat.

If you cannot tag what your group is killing while playing support then the issue is you and not the game. I play full support for my group, its never an issue.

NICKEZ.3671:

Or maybe it’s to level alts a little bit without having to pve.

ZzZz fights outnumbered all the time, it’s what we do, but I obviously you don’t have a clue. Honestly, you seem a little kitten-hurt. Keep it up, I’m sure your attitude will get you far in life.

PS. Anet structured the WvW reward system in a way that encourages karma trains… ESPECIALLY when there is NO ONE to fight.

I recommend crafting to level alts.

I am fully aware that the reward structure of WvW favors blobbing and karma trains, that does not change that they are a boring snooze fest and a parasite on the game.

Given your guild tags, your attitude towards play is to blob up like sheep and play with little personal risk or challenge. Since you apparently think what happens in game/forums has an impact on your life, you might want to take this into consideration. Personally I think it’s just a game and playing like a herd animal will have no negative effect upon your life, so don’t worry about it.

Warthog.6870:

“zZzZ fighting outnumbered” made my day

Yea I thought that was pretty funny as well.

NICKEZ.3671:

Jaxs.5830:

ThaOwner.7560:

NICKEZ.3671:

Any of you SoS or Mag commander want to start a proper karma train in one of the BLs?

sigh…. its sunday, why dont you actually play the game?

Look at the guild tag.

You must be confused.

If you kittens want to ‘actually play the game’ come to Mag bl and fight with us. You guys have almost no presence right now, really boring; this is why things like “karma train” are brought up.

The only reason Karma trains can be brought up is because you want to read a book and play the game as the same time, or you have trouble getting to sleep and you need something incredibly boring to drive you in that direction.

You could of course disperse your blob to fight what is available rather then QQ, but that is pretty scary. Someone might be responsible for their play!