Guild Wars 2

People act like everyone is given speed for free. I would never take a speed signet, like the thief, over my current set up with centaur runes. My utilities are to awesome. For me to lock one down non stop for speed. Same with necro, and ele. Plus i’m faster with my 33% then they are with the 25%. On my Gaurdian i have permanent swiftness. Because i use boon duration runes, and boon duration spec. It definitly isnt handed to me. Each class plays a cost for speed. I think my easiest is my engineer. With only requiring 10pts in speedy kits.

Went with

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fcjeahyz

For tonight. I liked the Glamours and the blinds. I guess i just wish i had more points! I want everything :P I used to have Prismatic Understanding and i miss it, but it dosent fit. And i really wish i could get the chaotic transference. To boost my condition damage. But again not enough points! And with the glamours having confusing enhancements would be awesome. But again dosent fit

How much worse is just having confusing enhancements. Vrs dazzling glamours and blinding befuddlement? Anyone know?

Also has anyone run any test comparing using Mind wrack with confusion attached vrs cry of frustration for double stacks?

Just for the record i plan on Shattering for confusion stacks either way :P I don’t know if i made that clear. Its just a matter of taking Ip, Glamour. Or like my first build. Neither with higher in the chaos line.

I want to at least give confusion another try. I really like my mantra build. But i like to full around with builds. I had thought about going IP, but it relies on melee range for you to stack the shatter condition e.g. confusion. I dont know if its even neccesary. I had thought of maybe a confusion stacking shatter build. Something like this.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgQQNArfWl0zKqnQzqGbNJiZGDHyh+w1RqQrVSxsdhA

http://tinyurl.com/bq3r8fy

But it seems like i’m missing a lot by not using the blind causes confusion glamour combo. So many blinds are available. Something like this seems pretty cookie cutter.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgQQNArfWl0zKqnQzqGb9IiJFDHyh6x1VdfXJFz2FC

http://tinyurl.com/cjeahyz

Or is Ip really worth it? I feel going the glamour route really locks down your utilities. With that much power behind your glamours you really NEED to take 3 of them. And then if you do, shouldn’t you spec for a shorter glamour cooldown? I have never used IP so i don’t know how useful it really can be for confusion stacking.

Any thoughts would be apreciated

Since every build needs a clever name, maybe i’ll call it “total retall” you know like total recall…never mind here is the build!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUQQJARWlYgKCXFS5Gf4ES2DDclQQrCEE2DMKj6IA

70% Boon Duration without food 90% with
2 Monks,2 Water, 2 Sanctuary

Here is where im torn
With the three utilties ive chosen, and Justice. I don’t “need” to use the greatsword for 100% retaliation up time. Which is nice, since i’m thinking of maybe switching to sceptre. I really hate chasing people around as they CC me. But! if i do use greatsword, maybe i could get rid of a utility. Which would be neat as well. Since i’m a big fan of teleporting to targets.

Also,
I really feel like the build is a little clunky. I want to run 100% retaliation with little effort. Which i have. But i’m not in love with absolute resolution just yet.

Thanks for any input!

I’m the exact opposite. If someone, guardian or not, enters a dungeon im in, and says there “full support” or “healing” i cringe. I have a heal. I do fine without a “healer”. What i dont need is someone poorly healing the group by topping them off when they dont need it. While unable to heal through burst when they would need it. I would rather have someone just hit the mob hard, and drop it faster. Requiring me to push 6 less. Dont stack my might, i can do that. Dont heal me, i can do that. Kill stuff.

Dastion.3106:

Personally, I just don’t like veil. It’s nice to have an extra group invis but it’s too similar to Mass Invis for overall effect.

Plus, look at the only other utility group Invis, Shadow Refuge.

-Up to 15s Stealth (ours is 4, 8 if you manage to get back into it after the first time it falls).
-Better coverage (ours is a line, theirs is a circle)
-Faster CD (60 vs 90s)
-Added Heal effect

Yea, I know different professions and all of that… But veil just seems so weak.

Yeah if both were unbuffed, shadow refuge wins. But you can’t trait refuge anywhere near what you can trait veil. With SoS on there bar, and Refuge, alot of thieves don’t leave alot of room for utility. Some of them might take the trade, veil for refuge.

Do you get the same up time with Air runes, as you do with Centaur? Centaur has a 15 second ICD (even though it says 10) And the Swiftness lasts 10 seconds. Which you can get to 15 easy enough. Is air the same?

Definitly. I don’t think anyone “wants” to use them. I would love to use scholar. But i think most Mesmers that are serios about WvW use the runes. Simply because it’s our only reliable method of speed.

There is a Prec Tough Cond set from the Orr merchants. Ive been picking them up as i go, for an off spec set.

7 Mirrors does..https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Seven-Mirror-WvW-Mesmer-02-05-13

And Fay
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Videos-Guide-Panacea-Mantra-Build-PvX/page/2#post1358054

And Myself
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Matra-Build-im-currently-running/first#post1237892

Oci uses Air for speed instead of Centaur. Same ability Swiftness on heal.But diferent stats. And still uses Runes for Swiftness. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-WvWvW-Pve-Shatter-Cat/page/15#post1405007

One of Pyro’s builds
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-PvE-Supporting-Phantasm-Build

This is what ive been running and i like it a lot.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqaFmI2eAUdyTuCGV7BOfJMB

My only problem is, the bonuses to poison damage from the power line, isn’t benefiting me at all. I do really like the root at 50% damage. And i definitly like the damage from the +300 power. But I’m willing to listen to any thoughts that don’t include “don’t go pistols”

Is there anyway for thieves to get 100% swiftness uptime? Yes i know about the 25 % signet. I’m asking about swiftness.

Fay does great with her build. I do well with mine. We know you have a “unkillable” build. But thats not the way everyone wants to play. Fays build is stellar at healing. And does great damage. You just put statements out there, that are incorect. We get it, you like your gimmicky retaliation build. Not everyone does.

Its all a matter of taste. Of the traits you mention above. There are plenty of people that never use mirror images. And plenty who don’t use blink. Decoy, and feedback are awesome skills. But its all a matter of game play. Some people want to “do the dance”. Stealth in an out, stack confusion, shatter your clones. Other people just want to hit as hard as possible. Like two big sluggers just throwing there best punches at each other, and seeing who drops first.

I dont have to put 10 pts in inspiration for the condition removal. And some people see Mesmers as having very weak condition removal. We dont have to worry about pathing for shatter mechanics. There are plenty of pluses and minuses. For me personally when i was glamour/confuse. If someone caught me solo, i lost more then i won. That’s just me. Now days they better see me before i see them, or i shred them apart. You can call it sub par, you can call it lack luster. It’s working for some of us, tremendously.

Every once in awhile you will hear of someone taking buffs from this boss or another. I’m interested if we could post all those neat tricks here, for everyone to learn them.

Kazhiel.8194:

EasymodeX.4062:

Thus, they are best used in a sustained skirmish where you can engage/disengage fairly often. In WvW this basically occurs all the time around most of the map.

yes this ^ but that doesn’t make them very versatile unless zerg fight is the only thing you’re interested in. I like to do a lot of small team yak killing and camp flipping tho

I run a full Matral build. I solo. I run small man. And i zerg. I aslo run dungeons with mantras. I run Sword/ Torch and Greatsword. I keep Mass Invis on the bar a lot. Decoy is nice. But ive learned to work with two stealths instead of 3. I think feedback is great but the cooldown is a little much if untraited. It all depends on what you want to do with it. Ive used feedback traited, and even traited to confuse. Its nice, but in small man action people tend to talk out of it. More so then in zergs.

I would never switch back from Mantras.

In every build thread, there is some post about Thieves. There always the exact same thing. “ZOMG how do i win vrs someone who hits me for 50k and i can never see him!” That kind of stuff dosent help someone with a build at all. If you want to complaign about thieves go to there forum and complaign like all the others.

Then when Fay gives a great answer its stil not enough. Just more backward thief complaigning.

The Ash legion spy kit is in every one of my characters packs, all the time. To me its essential for harder dungeons.

Just giving an update on my Mantra build. Now that ive gotten all my gear set. I absolutly love how hard it hits. Big numbers make me smile, and i dont think im going to apologize for that :P I do feel squishy at times, if i can see the enemy coming, im usually fine. But there are times when i get caught, and then i get quickly dead. Ive resigned myself to keep the 20 in chaos as well. I just love what it offers to much. Am i losing a small bit of damage? Yeah, about 200 power is a big hit. But the toughness and the safefall and the damage reduction helps me feel not so squishy.

Mantras take time to get used to, but ill never go back to confusion

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fgw2skills.net%2Feditor%2F%3FfgAQJAsfl0zyoHRTkGbNJiJFDXvhqA2RqQrV6xsdhyGA

I avoid other Engineers like the plague. All they want to do is talk about how other classes are butterflys and kittens, and how Engineers get “Nerfed” every patch. Ive been a flamethrower Engineer from Beta till now. It’s awesome, it’s always been awesome. Now that theve added the sigils its even more awesome. I know for a fact, tons of engineers out there have stopped playing there class, not because it performs diferently. But because someone told them it was" broken" now.

The only people i kinda felt sorry for was the Grenadiers, but that change is ancient history now. And im pretty sure i keep reading about a Grenade build thats one shotting people in PvP. So im going to pack up my tears for that lot as well

I’m suprised so many people would be willing to give up a utility spot for swiftness. I do get a little annoyed by the centaur mechanics, but i don’t think my other profesions are better. For my thief i feel like i have to give up 25% of my utilities just for speed. Which is a higher price to pay, for me.

For my engineer i have to put 10 points in inventionts(i think thats the line) even if i did not want to. And i have to hit the buttons alot more to maintain my swiftness. Also Kit refinement takes this same skill slot. So you either have to switch alot, or take 20 in that line. Its not a huge deal, but it is a little annoying.

My Gaurdian either has to use staff and stack boon duration, or keep retreat on the bar, and use the staff and run that little dance.

At least with the Mesmer and The Gaurdian its an aoe speed. Which i like alot.

Darx.9842:

Jester.1236:

I use the condition removal food a lot on my mesmer. It really helps.

the -40% condition duration food?

No the saffron remove condition on heal food.

I use the condition removal food a lot on my mesmer. It really helps.

Good call Fay! I still don’t know if i can do the 5 seconds downtime. But maybe i can put less in chaos.

Just tested it over and over and over again. Cus this would give me alot more flexibility. But it is inconsistent. I even put 10 points in chaos to make the swiftness 12 seconds so i knew i was waiting the 10 seconds. It still only goes off half the time.

/sadface

The centaur runes dont proc off each cast of mantra of heal. Its very inconsistent and i don’t know why. I was going to submit as a bug, but it seemed so minor i doubt they would care. It really bugs me though.

I wonder how well you could stack confusion with this, and the asura racial + sceptre.

Ive been using it in WvW.
Let me try to answer your questions in order
The damage is the reason i’m using this build. I was running full confusion for awhile, and it just didn’t do it for me. I’m not saying it’s bad but not for me. The damage is definitly nice.

I use torch as a secondary weapon becuase i love the stealth honestly. Ive heard people say it’s a get away for bad players, but thats fine for me :P i still get away when i get in to deep.

Im running full zerker gear. And i just cant do WvW without the swiftness. I feel like a turtle.

With 30pts in deuling and my current gear im at about 40% crit. But i need to switch out a few more peices.

As for shattering. Does the +9% damage from each active clone affect the shatter damage? i assumed it did. But if not then yes ill switch. I was kind of torn on if should even shatter or not, since im more defensive not shattering, and do more damage.

Ill test that phatasm stuff right now!
Edit: Dosent seem to help the phatasm damage. At least on the target dummy.

Good morning
This is my current mantra build im running. It differs greatly i think from the 30/30/0/0/10. And there are a few reasons for that, which i will go into.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQJAsfl0zyoHRTkGbNJiJFDXvhqA2RqQrV6xsdhyGA

The 30 in dueling is kind of a no brainer. I wanted deceptive evasion, and the goal of any mantra buid, the +4% while having a mantra readied. Now the thing that i didnt really think was neccesary, was the number of stacks i needed in each mantra. It would have been nice to go all the way in domination but i cannot, for one simple reason.

To me the 20 in chaos is neccesary for me to keep 100% uptime on swiftness. I’m not going to go one some rant about mesmers and swiftness. I have an engineer, a gaurdian, and a thief, and everyone pays a price for speed. But if im going to invest in the centaur runes, then i might as well get my up time to 100%.

Now i have tossed around the idea of using boon duration food. I have a 400 chef, but im not sold on the idea. One of the reasons im not sold is i really like the safe fall ability from the 10 slot in chaos as well. I love being mobile, and part of that to me is not worrying (as much) about dying when i fall.

I do feel like i make up for the lack of power, with power food. But, i also think i could use the boon duration food, so im somewhat torn there. On the training dummy the diference in the damage between my +100 power and +300 power wasnt all that much.

So any advice or ideas would be helpful. Just remmeber i am trying for a mantra build, so any advice saying “don’t go mantra” isnt’t really helping. And i need at least +20% boon duration.

Ive tried a lot of specs on the mesmer. And so far this is my favorite.