Guild Wars 2

A couple people in this thread seem to think thieves offer nothing to a Team beyond roaming. I strike that odd considering we use them for various things in organized play.

Cleric/Apoth Venom Share builds with our front lines.
Shortbow Blast finisher spam for Waterfields and Chill.
Dagger storm is the longest whirl finisher in the game I believe. There’s a lot of potential with both water fields, Light fields, and Chill.

I’m likely missing a few things, but they have a place in organized play. Usually Engineer or the Rangers in the guild just get “no”. This is because Grenade damage, though good, is out shined by Elementalist for burst, Necromancers for condition pressure and is subject to massive amounts of retaliation damage. This means you have to trade off damage for survivability to ensure you don’t flatten yourself. Rangers bring a long duration water field, but so does Elementalist. Though an Engineer CAN perform in a team comp, a Thief will usually be brought over one.

Do you have any screenshots of the incident? The Thieves guild strikes me as odd, but the D series Golem could have been a Golemancer rune.

Glorious Commander Siegerazor just phased through the gate and solo capped SW Tower Mag BL. GB Commander Siegerazor.

Also he took a very long time to leave. Just kinda sat at the depot.

Through all the joy, and friendship, one still knows much sadness.

All this friendship. I wish I could be a Pal too.

BLKNovember.5620:

ParaldaWind.4523:

I really miss when FA was good at open field.

Hell, BT practically taught us how to fight open field, at least for a lot of us. Even RET was a bit of a challenge for awhile, but I barely see them anymore.

I’ve gotta say, I wasn’t originally impressed by FIRE from DB, but they’re getting a lot better, though it’s hard to tell when they run with 40+ others. Their movement is really good, and they have good recovery. TG, I haven’t seen you all week, PYRO misses you.

Also, where’s Agg this week? I was looking forward to some rematches.

Oh well, pretty good week all in all. I still miss BT/AoN/RET from FA. The remaining guilds aren’t kitten or anything, but they just don’t really stand out to me anymore.

Also, sorry to both servers for Mag’s karma trains.

Eh, not a fan of the balling up and stacking. I agree it can be effective in certain situations, but it’s not why I log into WvW, and certainly not the type of gameplay I find fun. I rather let people contribute on their own accord rather than micro manage everything they do. I find I end up in even more exciting and intense fights that way, but that’s just me.

Might stacking is silly and not nearly as good as people make it out to be. It gives your opponent an opening to push you, run away until you lose your stacks, or gain a terrain advantage. Also blows your blast finishers early, which have some other important uses early in the fight.

etrigan.4213:

AGG = FARM

Just a heads up to my fellow FA and MAG friends…

b..but we like them…

Heavily resembled Paragon armor, which was leather at the time.

kiwiburner.2186:

Because you’re widely believed to be bad sports. In the first week of matchups with your server, a bunch of your players created a guild with the same tag as our server’s top Taiwanese guild ([WvW] Together we are Unbreakable). What did the Maguuman’s call their guild? [WvW] Together we are Terrible. Nice.

That’s why.

Pretty misleading guild name, to be honest.

Dull Egotistical Raiding Party, is accurate enough. At least [BV] found their mimic name humorous.

Darius Glazkov.9750:

John Widdin.9618:

We needed more guardians.

we’ll bring the guardians if you bring the ranged dps~

We have no shortage.

CrimsonProject.7980:

….
Is this reality?

I have some good or bad news depending on if you like citrus.

Elano.2014:

John Widdin.9618:

[…]

What’s the full name of that NBA guild? I’ve never noticed them before. o.o

It’s AGG in disguise.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Wh.. why the hat? It warms my heart to hear people giving it a chance
.

My friend bought it for me, with his money he earned through being p2wcashshopoverlordofelite+founderstatus.

I appreciate it enough to always wear it, though under that hat is a party hat. He bought me that too. He knows I enjoy hats. Sadly, I don’t find tf2 fun anymore.

There, full explanation.

We actually had a very good night last night, after getting smeared by blobs due to our poor play, we finally got our kitten together and had some fun with ME. We needed more guardians.

Thank you FA, for the battle of EK, on FABL. It made my night.

saiyr.3071:

BlackAngel.1349:

Also, please do show me your 8 man guild running over 40 people.

http://www.twitch.tv/defult/c/2157300?t=97m

It’s not 8v40, but I think it’s probably better than your claims. Granted, they are pubbies.

Also pretty sure that guys entire post was sarcasm.

Good god, those Gifs.

katniss.6735:

And the whole idea about switching the system to create pure garbage is making people play other MMOs right now.

No kidding. Gotta say, this game isn’t nearly as bad as I was lead to believe.

And I am one sexy beast.

Elano.2014:

teh lulz

Get out.

JaNordy.6149:

I smell BBQ and now I really want BBQ

http://i.imgur.com/4kD6N0t.jpg

Rip Whoa. Aww kitten you caught me saying something completely irrelevant in the top right.

StealthSnake.9134:

Taking Bluelake just to lose Bay in Ehmry bl. Good trade FA.

Also didn’t help that 10 FA stayed at Bluelake for some reason.

Cardinal directions pls.

This is refreshing to see. Thank you Arena net.

The last time I felt this, was when Valve gave everyone on Tf2 a free Key for Christmas.

Official song for FA on FABL tonight, when kitten comes along.

LilyLinguistic.5169:

Battleship Maguuma Floats Again!

Why are we a battleship?

kerona.3465:

It’s getting too nice and kind in here.

DB, you make me wanna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ

“You make me wanna threw it on the ground.”

YOU MAKE ME WANT TO PAST TENSE.

Doin lines in Mag BL.

Dekar.2759:

Nickthemoon, CO never tried to dictate or take over anything. We silently went in and did what others wanted the entire time. We’re not even part of their “leaders forums,” we get assigned to a map and try to work with whichever guilds are on it.

Jayne, be happy they have the truth despite how drama cry baby it is. I don’t agree with most of what CO says on the forums either so I know if I post I’ll be guilty by association.

That sounds awful.

eithinan.9841:

LilyLinguistic.5169:

What was that about us not having our keeps? Pretty sure we’ve got some of yours too.

YAY start up the Wxp train again!!!! heading out of magummy station.

:P

Your enthusiasm is admirable badge#9841

A positive attitude is good for health, keep it up!

Kovu.7560:

I was beginning to feel bad for Maguum and SBI in particular— being thrown into this situation is not that fun for anyone— however all of the kittening and DB hate on this page alone has dulled my senses. Are we really that bad?

~ Kovu

I’m just jaded and miss the old DB. They were fun.

RIP DB.

Mayoken.9851:

I’m so surprised so many keep thinking DB haxxxxx. Lol. That makes me laugh a lot.

It’s like.. 2 people.

Slomoshun.6317:

Can my fellow DBers(mainly the pugs) stop being kittens and get off of SBI’s EBG spawn.

Show some class people.

SBI of the servers in this match up don’t deserve it.

Sol.8341:

toudaloo bear boys.

Spalen.9483:

In 4 the lulz.
15char

get out.

GuardianOMS.8067:

A little going away present.

It’s Raining Maguuman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvcxAinFcew

It’s like all the fun happens the moment I log off.

MomentofWeakness.1246:

Uther Deathhand.1570:

MomentofWeakness.1246:

Couldn’t even reach your backline, felt like we had stability but not anything to counter immobilized, nice sweep DERP, our melee style is no good against your ranged style on this day.

Did you guys take video of these fights. i was not able to come watch today and am interested in seeing them. Btw i was in the last gvg with you and PYRO.

We did, to learn from it, have to get better, adapt & overcome. We tried to be a little too fancy tonight too but DERPS composition was a guardian killer =(

I look forward to hearing how you intend to counter it. In all honesty, I was the little asura warrior, I could sit in the middle of you guys with little threat to my life.

Ps. Nice Warbanners.

GuardianOMS.8067:

8 [D|ERP] wiping 32 [RE]
get owned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Ft7TZthuM

Oh lord, when did you guys do this? I gotta get in on it if you do it again.

ooooh kitten , Commissar “Coleslaw” Colhearth. You gonna take that? I smell a smackdown!

Zero, for the love of god, put it all in one post. Please.

Haru Kane.4623:

John Widdin.9618:

honestly, all you need is bare minimum Knights armor. Maintain 2k armor, and you won’t fold instantly.

I have 2.3k armor right now and 18k health

Then you can’t be helped. You have the tools as a mesmer to deal with that. What build are you running?

DeWolfe.2174:

Even with maxed out toughness, the damage mitigation wouldn’t have prevented death. What’s the maximum damage reduction, about 40%? That would leave over 23k dmg points left. Well more than enough to take down a Mesmer, right?

I don’t know what bubble people live to not see that with Ascended gear, the multiplying effects of power scaling is too high on thieves. The skill coefficient’s need to be dropped for WvW.

Because I haven’t been gibbed by a thief in a very long time, on any of my characters. What happened in the OP’s picture happened within 5 seconds. An acceptable range for use of dodges, stun breaks, and invulnerability, as well as returning some damage into the thief. If you keep running away from the thief, you leave your back open to be hit for the second backstab.

For him to achieve that kind of damage, he’s made of wet paper towels. Now don’t get me wrong. Dagger pistol is silly amounts of stealth, but Thief burst is really just punishing people who don’t build to counter it, or for sustained fighting.

That said, 3k armor would bring the full burst rotation around 12k damage. Assuming you actually eat the whole thing.

Airwolf.5287:

The idea of a minion master is awesome, but I don’t think it would have played out well in wvw.

In Gw1, they could actively be used to heal, and punish people for killing them. They were a very powerful tool.

The lower the tier, the less likely you’ll run into massive groups. Still you wont be able to easily solo a tower. This is a team game, bring at least 5 people, and get good enough that you can handle a group of 10.

Master of Timespace.2548:

style.6173:

@OP. You make me lol. In fact, WvW has been way more popular than the devs imagined. They originally thought everyone was going to want to play PvP, but that proved incorrect.

Some of us actually like to zerg. There is nothing better than seeing 20 v 20 on a battlefield. If that is not enjoyable to you, that’s fine. Try PvP or solo a zerg with an arrow cart.

Lol 20v20. You in tier8 or something ? XD

They’re common in Tier 3.

honestly, all you need is bare minimum Knights armor. Maintain 2k armor, and you won’t fold instantly.

Sol.8341:

John Widdin.9618:

Not on a meaningful scale, or similar stat allocations. I can’t replicate the stats on my engineer in Spvp, nor can I use food buffs, etc.

I interprete that as you do not have access to ascended gear and lvl 80 food buffs which means you will not have the extra advantage of a few hundred stat points over your opponents. you will be exactly the same as your opponent and hence why it is fair and best way to gauge skill.

No, I have a mashup of items that give me a particular set of stats, ranging at 800 condition damage, 2.5k armor, 3k Attack power, 20k health. With only an amulet and the upgrade slot to set your stats from, it’s impossible to have as much build diversity as in the normal world.

I only have an ascended neck. My build also relies heavily on my food, which adds additional regen to my own passive, which allows me to stay on my feet longer during sustained damage taken from retaliation.

Ps. The food I use costs so little, that there’s literally no excuse to not have a food buff.

Sol.8341:

There are plenty of uplevels with outdated gear in WvW. you can tell when they get smashed by 1 or 2 blows. That’s why I dun even bother to watch thiefs videos on their “conquests” in WvW.

Isn’t sPvP the best way to gauge a guild group’s skill ?

Not on a meaningful scale, or similar stat allocations. I can’t replicate the stats on my engineer in Spvp, nor can I use food buffs, etc.

The best way available is an organized GvG south of the windmill.

Sol.8341:

Isn’t there something called sPvP ? Once you step into WvW, so many factors to cancel out skill :

(1) Gear
(2) Level
(3) Uneven numbers

At that point it comes down to

(1) Group Comp (and Gear)
(2) Who brings uplevels
(3) Formation and skill usage
(4) Numbers.

A moderately sized group can wipe a disorganized group 1.5-2/1. Beyond that, it stretches beyond the bounds of down state.

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Are you seriously suggesting dorp would win a gvg against WM?

Am I getting trolled?

I mean you guys are a great guild… but come on…

Are you seriously suggesting dorp can’t win a gvg against WM?

Am I getting trolled?

I mean they’re a great guild… but come on…

Our regeneration isn’t quite as strong, but with Backpack regenerator, Mango Pies, and the large stack of regeneration you can get from Overcharge detonating + Gadget skill, you can hit a fairly high amount of regen.

I have about 300 per second, without any healing power.

The game’s population will continue to decline as the population niche settles, and more will return as the game continues to get polished over time.

An expansion is a bit too soon.

Bern.9613:

TyPin.9860:

If I was Anet, I would implement another “counter” to stealth as a kind of area effect….

…Also I would make a tower upgrade that partly reveals stealth in an area arround the tower. Like Deniara Devious suggested. The stealthed character would appear as a s transparent shimmer within the area….

I will speak on behalf of the thief as my main is one. A thief will not survive an aoe barrage because it has the lowest hp, toughness, survivability of ALL of the warrior classes. They do this because to survive is to eliminate the target before it has a chance to eliminate you. High, fast dps. So unless you’re also suggesting that ANet ups the stats of the thief….

You must build terrible. You’re only squishy if you build squishy. Some of the best thieves I know aren’t full glass, and instead built mid range so they can handle sustained fights. Stealth is a very powerful damage mitigation tool.

Am I just looking at Kaineng’s asian population?

Sol.8341:

you mad bro ?

/dance

Sol.8341:

Kaineng is in the lead, although score aint gonna mean much. We are going to the Premier League next week for vs rank 1 and rank 3 server.

6 more days to join Kaineng in the top bracket.

That match up is just an example of a possible match. It’s not the actual one for next week.