The amount of grind to rank up in order to get some ascended amor skins is far too high compared to other game modes and even to legendary items.
Gameplaywise, there is no point of getting more than rank 1000 because all WvW abilities are upgraded. Anet simply made the +1000 WvW ranks to reward the people who still rank up past this level with some loot and fancy titles as a small motivation to keep them playing.
While spending Tomes of knowledge to rank up is good idea to help players get the abilities and let them make a good use of the extra tomes, some ‘EotM-exp-farmers’ and ‘elitists’ keep coming in zergs to attack it because they think that if you do not spend +500 hours grinding levels you do not deserve ‘to get that armor’ like they did.
Because you haven’t deserved. It’s reward for playing the game mode properly. I want legendary armour, but I hate raiding, so maybe ANET should lower the amount of LI we need for them? No, because you have to achieve it. You want to get those skins, go play WVW to get them. But people like in PVP, they just come for item and ruining game mode like this.
We have huge queues in WvW due to new players wanting those skins, lately numbers dropped as they noticed it will take a lot of time. Those skins are rewarded for playing game mode, not just to get it because you like it.
And entry rank should be at least 200 in wvw, depending on server.
I think rank 1k is more then enough especially because all of your wvw skills are already maxed. Is it playing properly when i rank up in eotm? What is playing wvw properly anyways? How about all those people who exploited eotm when it came out to get rank 2k+ in one month and anet let them keep it after they patched it? Did they play it properly? because now they are rewarded.
Like one commander said. “We already mastered karma training in EB, borderlands and now EotM” (or something). People could easily make zerg in lower tiers that could go and cap everything without any kind of problems, but people just using totally random builds, run like headless chickens and whine about EotM.
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EotM need own rewards. I want that everybody know how much i have played EotM. These WvW armors and stuff make me look like some normal +5k rank ultimate dominator scrub, not EotM hero who fight in harder map and actually defend stuff. We could get own EotM ultimate dominator title too. Of course i have only little bit over 190k EotM kills so i still would have some goal.
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Guys, even a vet like me, with over 4500 rank still needs to play for weeks in order to get one piece.
Let’s take the chest as an example, as that is what the effect is attached to. I need 350 tickets for the exotic, and another 175 for the sublime plus 500 memories of battle. So I gotta reach diamond reward track every week for 3 weeks at a minimum depending on if I want to spend gold on the memories. And that’s just for one piece.
So, those of you who are not rank 2000 or whatever, then just keep at it, cause even if you were rank 2000, you still can’t get this stuff.
I’m barely in the low 2000s of rank, and I have thousands of memories of battle. Why would you spend gold on them? They drop for free!
I guess he sold his and he conveniently using that as a excuse or argument when he sold his base on his discretion. Welcome to the internet.
Usually people sell useless junk.
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Would be hilarious if everybody run around wvw legendary on after week. People really thought that they can just play wvw couple weeks and get rewards? I wouldn’t mind if legendary requirement would be diamond rank, ultimate dominator, 15k defended objectives, 40k captured objectives and so on.
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Just give EotM own pips and stuff so i can go back there. Player quality is horrible in new WvW. EotM is like combat heaven compared this. At least EotM people actually try to defend stuff.
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Seems to me that this reward system doesn’t motivate players play well. You get rewards no matter what you do. Something is wrong when people fight and defend harder in EotM than in new WvW.
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JunkPile i find that offensive cause the server i am dont have a blobs.
10 vs 70? man ur playing against lots of badies…. u hide in siege or u play on EOTM but eotm in not WvW.. how about play a game with real pvp instead of being carried in this game?
i play mace shield shout guard i dont get carried by power creep.
Well i play in EotM so i have meet lot’s of PvE players. That why i know that 10 vs 70 should be easy.
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I want seperate stats so my scepter/dagger ele (that i don’t know hot to play) can kill sPvP tournament level condi reaper. I just hate that when i just smash my keyboard and better condi player kill me.
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Yeah, I just got 52 stacks of bleed in half a second.
For the love of god Anet, give the game a chance, BALANCE IT SEPARATELY!!
Well you are returning player so you probably have some l2p issues. Weird thing is that i never get these kind of stacks. Do you just run straight in red circles or something or do that follow commander thing that is so 2014.
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has some one who only play WvW, im very low and i have 1k….. lel
the problem is ktrain blob servers will propably farm that backpice easilly, while the pve players that join the dead servers wvw will be burned with loosing every skirmish and WvW rank will take alot of time….
never the less, its a placebo update… rewards is the worts way to fix stuff when the problem arent the rewards…
You say that you lose against PvE players? 10 WvW players should kill 70 PvE players easily.
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has some one who only play WvW, im very low and i have 1k….. lel
the problem is ktrain blob servers will propably farm that backpice easilly, while the pve players that join the dead servers wvw will be burned with loosing every skirmish and WvW rank will take alot of time….
never the less, its a placebo update… rewards is the worts way to fix stuff when the problem arent the rewards…
You say that you lose against PvE players? 10 WvW player should kill 70 PvE players easily.
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We still do not know how big of an effect it will be but its also to reward the dedicated wvwer that have been lacking rewards for sometime now. I just hope their are new runes./sigil and armor stats for the wvw armors like sage gear.
Sadly it will just reward those who were on busier servers and those that k-trained in EOTM for ranks, rather than the dedicated wvw’rs who might only make one rank in a session.
Even i am +5k rank. How much people have been slacking if they are lower than that?
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“If you’ve been playing on the same world for at least three weeks.” Maybe give reward if you have played on the same world for at least three years? 3 weeks really? What kind of bandwagoner haven’t played in same server at least 6 months?
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Anet just can’t understand or bother to try understand what makes some spec op. They just nerf and boost something and won’t even think how it affect non FotM specs.
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I assume because players mainly still roll power builds so statistics don’t look so great for condi builds thus they get buffed and power nerfed with assumption that if condi builds are OP everyone will roll them
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i personally probably would quit the game all together if only viable build for thief was condi
Same here. The day I am forced to run a condi reaper / thief (my two mains) I quit the game. The whole condi playstyle is just braindead, cheesy and boring – no matter if it is balanced or broken.
I really hope what you described (more power build users = condi must be subpar) is not ANets logic behind balancing decisions.
Power reaper is like 10 times more braindead than condi reaper. At least condi reaper need to land perfect epidemic if he wanna contribute.
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Being able to dodge the skill adds counterplay to it. Which is exactly what was needed. Before epi would outright instakill you without any counterplay options on most classes. Now you can dodge it if you pay attention to the animations.
Obviously if you have low graphical settings, you still won’t see the animation.
The change to epidemic is REALLY good imo. Changing epidemic from 1 button “killswitch” into a skill that allows good players to work around it is exactly what needed to be done. Bad players will always be punished, no matter what kind of nerfs. Good example is how people complain about Dragons Maw, yet it’s widely considered to be really weak skill by more experienced players.
GJ Anet. I like this change.
You mean that add so much counterplay that players who have 2 sec reaction time can dodge it? I did dodge old epidemic just fine. Maybe add this kind of counterplay every skill. Example warrior would try to hit you and his gs would move so slowly that you have 2 sec time to dodge it. Kitten they could add some kind of counter in screen so you would know when to push dodge.
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The way you phrased it might imply that Plague was somehow exclusive to core builds. You could’ve just said: Plague From > Plaguelands.
Anyway… get over it. Plague was bad.
What you call panic button was really a turn-yourself-into-a-sitting-duck button.
And if that was your best way of defending against focus fire you should probably change your build.
Maybe you didn’t know how to use plague form?
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It’s feels bad because it’s big frigging mess. Anet just drop all players that have totally different goals, play style, skill level, gear and so on in 24/7 game mode. It just can’t work. It wouldn’t feel bad if match would last 2 hours, every side would have same amount players (not some duelers who would just take real players place) and every player in map would try to win.
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Suppose they wanted to allow you to earn legendary armour in WvW.
Do they put it behind reward tracks? Then it’s just a test of time. Play WvW long enough, get legendary armour.
Do they make it require badges of honour? Then it will go those with the most kills – those that blob up and press 1. Run with the zerg, get legendary armour.
Do they tie it to server victory? PPT hard enough / stack server coverage well enough – get legendary armour?
I can see arguments for all of these options, or some combination of them, but none of them are very appealing. They reward the worst parts of WvW and are not skill-based.
what?
does pve raid involve any skill ?
Ok
Yes. A bad group is going to struggle, a lot. Skill definitely shows; not everyone can tank, heal, or DPS as effectively as others.
WvW progress can be made by blobbing and pressing 1. You won’t make any progress in raids if you did that.
Yes your finger get tired if you push 1111 in raids that’s why i let my reve use autoattack.
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In a boring condition loving match right now, thought I’d give pvp a try. That game mode is just as worse. I can see why people find both wvw and pvp boring/frustrating. Both game modes just are not fun.
I think its more than wvw they don’t give a crap about Nikki, the entire game is getting really awful.
You should seriously give BDO a try. its 10 bucks now so what have you got to lose? I’m actually in a guild in that game composed mostly of former GW2 wvw players. There’s actually alot of former GW2 players in that game. there’s another guild of them we see occasionally that came from gw2 who named themselves “The Condi Meta” just to mock the state of wvw here.
Actually a few friends at work are mentioning they converged to BDO and are liking it. I’ll give that one a shot, thanks
Uggg if it was not the grind in that game for its pvp… but then agen now with legendary armor being raids only gw2 not so far off these days.
You could probably get full TET gear in less time, doing less boring pve than it would take to get legendary armor, then have actual guild wars in a game that supports guilds and actually fixes crap that’s broken unike anet (condi mes being brokenly overpowered for the past 4 years and they still keep freaking buffing it with every patch for the sake of pve.)
Did you just started BDO or what the kitten you talking about? Seems to me that you haven’t played game more that couple hours. BDO is probably most broken mmo that i have ever played.
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Most players already have left. I only log in occasionally to do dailies. I’ve just been playing BDO and Blade and Soul and occasionally check in here on the forums to see if they’ve un-effed up WvW yet. Funny thing that BDO has more support for guilds than a game called Guild Wars does. There’s actual guild wars and arenas where you can fight, and you can challenge people to duel anywhere outside of town. I decided to give it a try since its cheap to buy it now anyway and its been alot more fun that i’ve been having in wvw ever since anet decided to focus on pve and ignore us anyway.
I’d advise some of you to give it a try. Despite what some people say, its not the least bit pay to win, you’d be a fool to try and pay2win your way through it. They limit how much you can sell from the cash shop per week. and it would take you months of selling and thousands of dollars to get where a player who just grinds would be, and you’d still be behind everyone that knows how to make silver in game. Its a huge grind, but its worth it once you get geared up and can do pvp.
We just have to accept that anet doesnt give 2 craps about wvw or its players and if you want to play something that supports guilds and competitive pvp, you have to find a different game. I’ll keep checking back occasionally hoping they prove me wrong, but until then, I’m just going to play other games instead and actually have fun rather than frustrate myself with anet’s utter incompetence and neglect towards wvw. I’d advise you all to do the same.
Yes GW2 should be more like BDO because that game didn’t frustrate me at all and killing sausans was so much fun.
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It’s only really Necros that are problematic from a condition standpoint right now. This will be solved by the PvP version of Deathly Chill being introduced to WvW and another change to Epidemic. The last change to Epidemic in WvW only solved a small part of the problem and this skill still has a negative effect on the longevity of fights in WvW. Being able to block Epidemic will go a long way to adding some counterplay.
Do you even know how epidemic works?
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But he have utility bar full of kitten and enemy was afk. So condi burst is effective if you can change kitten utilities on before fight and enemy is afk.
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I still haven’t seen this famous necro condi burst. You probably can do it if you play some lamer spec, but normal WvW condi reaper doesn’t have any kind of condi burst. Epidemic doesn’t count because it’s too easy to avoid.
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