hahahahahahaha 15 chars.
@Fourth
so true, I love how they blame other staff and don’t know the answers to anything.
Working in a Cafe I knew my job inside out/Along with everyone else’s and listened to the customer. I never blamed someone else and always went and found a solution
Missing that hyperbole response
need more of it here. And Im sad that another patch is coming sept. 3rd and probably not going to see any REAL good follow.
ZERO hyperbole here
-So Anet can induce decay but only on recent top 10 and not people who have been sitting for weeks on a rank. Pic
If you check the pic they are obviously turning a blind eye to any;
Afk problems ~~~ you still lose matches so you wasted devs time w/dishonor :/ fix it
Spam/animation/asura problems
Leaderboard problems
& only answering questions that suit them the 1st day of a topic then leaving it once the community has a response because they have no real answers.
@Jonathan Sharp answers 1 question, dodges 2 and skips the rest.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Anet-Your-Plan-for-sPvp-Update-2OP-pics/first
@Allie Murdock you ask for constructive feedback yet you never come back
beacuse 9/10 are hyperbole?
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Helseth-s-rant-of-the-week/first#post2676005
I’ve already put my hope in the next game ESO even if it has a sub fee. Yet I’ll continue searching for answers until April along with everyone who still has hope & Gw2PvpTv :/
This says alot about the meta and how the devs are handling it aswell. Which is making players very frustrated.
p.s. atleast he used the word kitten instead of Mother kitten or Ghey kitten
@Darnis
Why is the QQglory is worthless train not doing anything then? Oh we don’t have enough yet I guess…
But ya still hoping for some more answers about the OP!
@Avead your missing a few things
What I’m trying to do is help you guys to understand how things work here, and why things are done the way they are done, and how you can help if you really want to.
Please tell us how the things work there in the balance team. !!! ?
June 25 necromancers received 2 new conditions; Dhuumfire + Torment + a load of other things, OP spectral wall, spectral armors in DS what a great idea!
Also if you know or not how they thought this was a good idea or be honest and tell us whether or not it was tested.
Time is needed to balance, it can’t be done at the snap of a finger.
Give us some examples of the time frame needed to balance something like this? because its been months. /winky face
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You guys are getting trolled so hard by Allie :O Lol
Looks like the 0.001% is holding back the other 99%. :<
fixed it because 10 people are holding back all the solo/team players on NA/EU and 0.001% sounds alot better
Agreed ^^ on all war/ele problems above. With the NEW set of questions in OP I didn’t really want to bring up balance so much because the more they try the worse it seems to get, along with the pax tournament coming up, nothing will change.
Then look at the answer we got about balance. They obviously have different view/opinions of whats going on in Spvp
@sorrow
1st Obviously the views we have of top tier players are quite differently.
2nd you quoted me swallowing/parroting what they say? I simply asked 2 questions, so what am I parroting could you please enlighten me?
Dont just attack someone and then not answer their questions, its rude.
Back to top tier players; I haven’t seen them hurt by it they seem to be adapting to me.
If you’ve seen helseths newest rant, he complains at one point about the obscene amount of damage. No I dont swallow it as truth and thanks for putting words in my mouth. I’ve experience 1st hand that their is too much damage and not enough to do about it.
Trying to troll me in this way means you must have a problem with me when I was just asking questions… But I must be incapable or reasoning as you said…
Well these games are really fun 4 necros and a ranger
…. not. basically just walking to each point just to help stomp cause every1 was already dead from the spam lol
Oh ya and when the other team thinks ele/war/thief still works. Well atleast this thief was spamming skills all the way from gate, up both sets of stairs to the altar more than once and I’m like huh…. is someone there?
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I agree with Altroll to many points.
Most of the complains about the current meta are complete bullkitten, expecially when people are calling this the worse meta ever.Metas of the past have been way, way more unhealthy than the current one. Some profession were completely left out while some other professions were as FotM as Necros and Rangers are now or even worse. So, stop this lie about lack of game variety and whatever and remember how the past metas has been.
So you like the current meta the most right now?
I thought all the top tier players would rather have the old meta?
I was thinking that this meta is really the worst especially for GW2 first tournament Pax.
Shout casters as of late- “omg 25 stacks of bleed and the burning, OH HE WAS 1 SHOT!!!!” OMG I’ve never seen it bef…"
@copestetic
I thought when the game was coming out and how they were hyping up the UI that they would allow you to turn cast bars on or off.
But you wouldn’t have to use them because of the ingame animations (warrior) yet the other classes have far less and on asuras it doesn’t even matter because you would need 1st person and to be in close combat to see any animation from their tiny hands O.o
I wouldn’t mind temp cast bars until they figure out how to change asura/add more animations to other classes.
@daishi
Castbars take your eye away from the ingame actions. Anet does not like it yet they haven’t enough clear animations for the current skills to technically do this aside from the warrior. Asura Lol 0.o. GCDs Im guessing they would take away from the responsiveness feel of the games.
@troll
You’ve been discussing mesmer/builds the whole time in this thread, use PMs pls
And just to clarify if you even read what he said or not;
" Instead everytime i meet you in a tournament match you’re on your necromanser"
So your saying w/e he says is false/moot because,? you don’t have a reason just trolling.
Take your discussions about the class to their class forums or PMs thanks
Nice mighty but I stopped at the troll toothpaste remark.
I definitely like you man. Anet 0 – 1 saVdoom. Anyway, good summary.
Hawatak, you do realize almost everything saVdoom said was incorrect, right?
Which parts?
id love some answers too tbh…why am I always in these pics o.0
The fix is on its way apparently no eta tho. The matchmaking groups together a group in similar mmr then faces them off with a group of the next lowest mmr sometimes 245+ ranks below. So us at the top 20 then some noobs
OP here
Lets turn these into PMs or take it to the respective class forums.
Stick to OP if you’d like to add anything you want Anet to be more transparent on.
Thanks guys discussing Mesmer and warrior builds
Take the warrior/mesmer discussion to their respective forums and remove them from here please. Thanks again and stay to OP
Spirit ranger Lol
If you and your team cant do a little over 5k dmg to a sun spirit that doesn’t heal,
or interrupt a res thats on 4 mins CD after having seen it once then idk all these sound like personal problems.
But agreed this passive play is crazy.
2 passive stun breakers in 1 tree line?
24 HOUR DECAY please
Also the decay on the leaderboards is going nowhere. If every 24 hours you dropped 1 rank it would solve all these 11-0 w/l and Pvp activity would only rise and give more reason to play everyday.
You go vacation for 2 weeks and you only lose 14 ranks, thats not bad.
Also Team Arena activity would rise since alot of players tend to play games to get their rank higher just to sit on it when they would be motivated to play everyday instead with the 1 rank loss per 24 hour decay.
Is Anet just trying to make their Spvp numbers look larger by letting people play 1 game every 4-6 weeks so it looks like we have an active spvp community, when half these people aren’t even playing weekly?
UPDATE #2
I will keep this OP updated with any responses from Anet since the comments section is flooded with mesmer/builds and trolling. Wheres my moderators?
2nd Thanks for everyone bumping who are also calling out to Anet for more answers and more transparency o.O
The new questions are after Anets quote.
@ArenaNet: Where is Spvp going if we have all the following that is taking away from the ideals of this great game?
- MMR is currently unfair when your system is gathering together the top 20 players and facing them off against a group of 200+ and beyond.
old https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Anet-Why-is-TPvP-Match-making-UNFAIR/first#post2626923
- Dishonor penalty is treating the symptoms that come after players have already left instead of curing the disease. Which is, why are the players leaving in the first place;
1. Clicking I’m ready doesn’t work,
2. Unfair matchups,
3. Little to none ingame Spvp starter area basics stomp/res/capture,
4. Cluelessness of whats going on in a fight due to lack of animations/castbars etc.*
5. Balance?
old w/ Solutions https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Anet-help-us-Fix-Dishonor-pls-50-26-24/first#post2625158
Helseths rants http://www.twitch.tv/helsethgw2
-Lack of animation
-Spam
Agreed
1st PIC. Four of the top 20’s vs 245’s and beyond
2nd PIC. It takes 24+ minutes for GW2 system to group the top players together.
3rd PIC. Asura with growth tonic/box o’ fun needed for Spvp.
4th PIC. 4 necros, we need a 2 limit class for SoloQ so matches have some diversity.
Thanks soooo much Anet!
@ MMR: We’re working on a fix for the grouping issue you point out in picture 1. This fix should also help to alleviate some of the queue issue as well.
@ Class diversity: I’ve also seen games (referring to your pics) with a ton of Rangers, or a ton of Thieves, or too many Warriors, or a ton of bunker Guardians. In your pic of the top players, you see 6 of the 8 classes. The community also seems to feel that Warriors are in a good place right now in PvP. That’s 7 classes. You could make a case that Mesmers have a hard time in a hard condition meta, and I think a lot of people would agree with you. They have counters to conditions, but a lot of players don’t like to run those in standard Mesmer setups.
@ Balance: Perception of balance is always changing, so we’ll continue to try to make sure all classes have good options!
@JonathanSharp
Thanks for the response on a few of the pressing issues you/us are having to deal with.
@Class diversity so no ideas on how the matching system could make the teams more diverse by having say only 2 of a class be pulled onto a team?
@Balance was the sarcastic part sorry lol more worried about everything else.
@Dishonor buff. Anyways of solving all the afk/leaving with more ingame training or just setting it to a 4v4 until they use your ingame Im ready button?
@Animations/asuras Anymore animation ideas like the great fear icon necros got in the future? or any ideas what you guys think about the asura being so small. Was this intended for their weapons and hand gestures to be so small?
@Spam etc. Alot of the noobs are obviously spamming but when you have high end players feeling thakittens worth it meaning both high and low end play favor spamming, which seems also not intended. Any response/ideas to how it might be dealt with?
@Map rotation also players keep saying is an issue. Allie said thakittens random but its been confirmed that Temple is the most used map for soloQ
@Leaderboard Decay. Where is this coming into play. Over half the top 25 have only played once since the 6th. Why can’t a 24 hour decay of 1 rank down be put into play? Wouldn’t it only increase spvp activity on the daily? or have it take more than 11-0 to be in the top 25?
Any questions skipped over this time will be taken as not ready for an answer so np
TY!
Thanks again Anet!
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Ya we need a hot fix ASAP.
Here are 2 solutions in this topic below.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Anet-help-us-Fix-Dishonor-pls-50-26-24
You’d get rotated in when a teammate dies. Did you read the OP or you just like winning your 5v4s? Not sure how you think thats fun…
K/D ratio would not work. Most guardians stay alive longer and get kills off teammates so all the guardians would be consider the top players.
But here’s another PIC of just how UNFAIR Anet designed the matchmaking system!
Also this is NOT OPINION for anyone who thinks it is. o.O Look at the rankings and then the score.
Just lost another game. Player DC’ed but if the game recognized this and would JUST spectate a player on the other team to make it a 4v4! Then this games pvp would be FAIR until he returned and checked ‘click ready’.
Guess we will never see this…
Not sure why Anet even added the click ready in the first place?
If Asuras get the enlarge buff I DEMAND chars get tiny debuff!
Confirmed. Temple is the most frequent map… Picture for verification.
It was working a few hours ago. I lost a few games. A couple of things you can try is making sure that you are the very similar rank and also if you disband the Q at all because your friend didn’t Q at the same time and retry. Then that also messes it up sometimes. Along with other tricks but GJ Anet people think its fixed Lol
Agreed but you need pics like these!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Anet-Why-is-TPvP-Match-making-UNFAIR/first#post2616646
@Silentshoes
Anet already knew that this was going to happen since the Spvp population is low and making a 2nd Q would NOW ONLY take people away from Team Arena. So that leaves the already low Population of Spvp ‘’thats on the rise’’ Lol and split them into 2 separate queses.
So tell me how they thought this MMR system of grouping the top 10 players together vs the ranks 10-20 or beyond was going to work?
Just lost another game necro was Afk for 3 minutes then came back to dodge the dishonor debuff lol
@aleks
Your not looking at the pictures? I have 4 people on my team that have similar rank. So to correct what you said about what I want, is that I want 2 of those players to be on the other team so that it is EVEN. Not all 5 of us top 20s vs people rank 100s and beyond..
I don’t mind waiting 10 mins but when I have to wait 24 minutes so that ANET can put the top 10 players on my team. THATS RIDICULOUS, come on look at the pics!
NO they can not split or make any more types of matches. The Population of Tpvp’ers just got split so Q times are going to be higher & its unbelievable that Anet really believes times will settle back down to normal. So making flag games or 2v2s would just spread the butter/players even thinner and they will not do.
@Anet
We are still waiting for answers…..
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If you don’t click ready your afk!
2 Solitions;
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Dishonor-Fail-solutions-50-26-24/first#post2605777
@Rufy ya I was hoping something like that would work but why wouldn’t Anet have thought of that? Its beyond me…….
Its just Sad that everyone has been asking for SoloQ Arena and this is what we get. 4v5s mismatched teams of rank 10s vs rank 100s-800s LOL. Ive only played 1-2 games that has been anything close to 400-500 in SoloQ Arena…..
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They are trying to match you up with the top 10 players but none of them were on.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Anet-why-does-Tpvp-matchmaking-suck-pics/first#post2606637
@thesilent
What balance? Look at these 4 pictures please about why Matchmaking Sucks
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Anet-why-does-Tpvp-matchmaking-suck-pics/first#post2605772
Leavers is even messing up the top 25 bracket. Ive seen stunningstyles, davinci, me magnorbear and more all lose different games due to a 4v5 over a 10 games span or 3 hours yesterday.
Can we get one of the 2 of the OPs Solutions into the game soon please?
@sublime
Mangnobear rank 18 is my char. So talking about the 1st picture now. My team had a rank 87 so we faced a team that had 1 rank 87 along with rank 400’s, 600’s, and 800’s?
ehhh Id like to believe that but Huiwi and darce were Qing up at the same time rank 16-40’s etc. And never versed them that match.
Its also been 5 days and everyone is struggling with Solo Arena, Ive been hearing the horror stories. I doubt the pops gonna get any bigger.
Team Qs also 22mins but dev responded same thing SoloQ is new and it needs 2 settle down. Then again in reality pops been split in 2………… Let that sink in………….. which is WHY they were so reluctant to add Solo in the frist place I bet! So I called cat on its still too early LOL
Ya its actually very frustrating. Im actually always on the winning team. Magnobear. So Im always with the top 10 players I never get to face any hard players. Only rank 300s and beyond.
And thats for the awesome response!
I was hoping they could put 2 of the top players on each team then divide all the noobies.
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So, it will take a little time for Solo/Team Arena to normalize. Adding Solo Arena to the game is a huge step, and it no doubt has made a ripple in GW2 PvP history.
Just give it a little time. Solo Arena has only been out for 2 days.
So doomsday!
Solo Q is 24 minutes now and its been 5 days !!! oh no
Edit:
@Anet I am hoping you can tell us why the match-making is UNFAIR. Its not Opinion,,, so moderators please don’t change the title again and look at the pictures.
Hoping we get that pvp guy to answer and find out if its ever going to change or why the system is messing up so bad.
Why are single digits LB ranks going up against triple digit ranks? & Why does it take 24 minutes in some cases for your system to group the top 10 players on my team to face off against much lower ranks?
Similar stuff is happening in Team Arena so you cant really say because Solo Arenas only has been out A WEEK.
p.s. I think everyone would like LB ranks to ALSO show up after matches since its a better comparison over glory ranks! thanks soooo much
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@Anet Why cant either of these be done?
2 Solutions; ANET please choose one and hotfix it ASAP
If someone doesn’t click ready Autoequalizer them! Making it a 4v4
So Now you have 1 AFK (who didn’t check ready) and 1 who is ready to get rotated in when a teammate dies.
OR SIMPLY If someone does not check ready throw someone from the Q in their place. Because either they are afk, never joined the game or quit already.
Its prolly about 50-26-24.
50% leavers Quit or never joined
26% afk or DC for 3-4mins at the start just to come back to avoid the dishonor buff! LOL
24% who afk at spawn the whole game.
Basically Anet gave green light allowing everyone to leave 4 games.
And anyone who does more then that are probably done with the game for that and the next day so they will just come back again to then leave raging.
My last topic about this was basically asking for an AutoEqualizer because I knew this wasn’t going to help much.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Leaver-pen-unnecessaryAutoequalizer-necessary/first#post2547260
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I attack 3 people on points all the time bymyself in Tpvp. Its really easy to get a decap and waste 3 peoples time.
But ya this syncings gotta go! 2 bad Anet doesnt care because they think the rosters are hidden and thakittens not happening.
Oh they did it in GW1? I never played. So they will prolly hold another event soon since its 250 years later?
2nd to last line of OP farm glory points!