Guild Wars 2

Just leave warriors alone !!!! What about guardians? They do just as much dps.. in fact more with that scepter, have a ton of healing, have a ton of boons. I haven’t seen any guardian nerfs that were significant either.

thefantasticg.3984:

In what game mode? Because you screwed the pooch on your title line.

Ty

Conditions need a rework, the game is losing its flare more and more. In fact the current condition style game play is atrocious I recall not to long ago people whinning burst damage. But now its just condition burst. Where is the fun in that? Anet you need to rework conditions if you are going to rework crit dmg.

Anet cant even balance the game with all the classes present, if they add more its going to be a circus up in here. Races and weapons is more appealing.

Diviner.7405:

You honestly expected GW2 to become an e-sport?

Let us take a look at the top three genres for e-sports. MOBAs, FPS, and Fighting games. Unfortunately, MMO’s do not fit into any of those categories. Nobody cares to watch the sPvP aspect of the game, because they would much rather be playing the game itself or doing something else. Look at the top Twitch.tv games. Do you see anyone streaming this game with more than 100+ viewers at once? Very very rarely. WoW gets more views and that is not even close to an e-sport.

The game itself has little depth. Most classes have 1-2 builds that can be successful and the amount of actual player skill is very minimal in most cases. This in combination proves to be very boring to watch for most people.

If they really want this game to be an e-sport, they have to throw a few million dollars or more to even start up and get people interested. Anything else is just half kitten attempts at making an e-sport. No e-sports organization is going to pick up a game that has a very niche audience who would rather be playing the game then watching the game.

You bring up very good points, but even so 1v1s,2v2,3v3… brackets could still generate real good audiences for it. All based on how it is presented. The game has great mechanics that can make this MMORPG different from others, that would make it more viable for E-sport.

What has happened to Gw2 becoming a Esport? Noone bothers even streaming spvp. The whole balancing of classes can be solved swiftly, if mods even read class forums and take into consideration some of the great suggestions provided there. This all reminds me of blizzard and their flavor of the month appeal in regards to classes. I want to know what anet has in store in regards to the whole Esport. For the love of the Charr gods give us /duel feature so we can have some actual fun in this game. Spvp duels are not alluring because of grievers.

solanu.3784:

These forums are for suggestions to improve/change the game. Not for trolling. Please refrain from wasting server space with pointless threads.

Its an improvement.

Adine.2184:

As long as its kept in a PvP setting have at it .

No, i don’t want to duel in spvp. I want to use the gear that I wear in wvw.

Its been 5 months, how about that /duel?

All warriors should just play thief or guardian.

Anet can you change it to Mule? Since that is all they are useful for.

Warriors remind me of enhancement shamans in WoW.

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Kukchi.6173:

The funny thing is that the fight clubbers didn’t cap anything, he just came and built a ballista and started trolling with his zerg.

If you’re doing a fight club in siege range of a camp, perhaps the location needs changing.

You placed a ballista at the rear of the camp to get in range of the windmill. Listen you don’t need to justify yourself with lies here. You even had people from your own server telling you off. Anyways GL and HF ill find you in the battlefield cheers.

Banzie.5248:

AggieTechGuy.4901:

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Sorry bout breaking up the fightclub on IoJ’s map…i’m just a biiiig advocate of not having it on a map that I’m proactively defending/upgrading in the south/patrolling/blah blah blah…..

nothin’ personal, guys <3

I’ll just throw out there that I support Nom in breaking up the fight club. I think fight clubs are great fun and all, but when the people that the fight club attracts start to go around and flip all of the camps, then I think whoever’s BL it is is 100% justified in breaking it up.

Agree 100% on this, Have fight clubs all you want, but if you start flipping the camps around it thats our stuff and ima kill the people responsible

The funny thing is that the fight clubbers didn’t cap anything, he just came and built a ballista and started trolling with his zerg.

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Sorry bout breaking up the fightclub on IoJ’s map…i’m just a biiiig advocate of not having it on a map that I’m proactively defending/upgrading in the south/patrolling/blah blah blah…..

nothin’ personal, guys <3

I’m actively hunting you down. Thanks for posting.

Warrior has the worst down state. This thread is now done.

Its been a great week for Wvw from zerg battles, small skirmish battles, to roaming and fight nights. Its been a pleasure fighting both IoJ and GoM. Great players on both ends and its been very enjoyable getting to know some of you looking forward to another fun match up. Much love from SF.

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Ansilon.6230:

Banzie.5248:

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

I’ll admit, I’m impressed. No more nonsense claims other than double teams. Which I can assure there is none of, SF got as much love as GoM tonight.

GG’s ladies, gents and .gif farmers. Had a blast tonight.

GoM getting even moee loving right now mayne.

The matchup isn’t over yet IoJ better watch your back.
Also, if any skill was involved in what just happened in EB
it would be more than pressing “1” on a golem, which you had 10 of.

Also, we have been working with ~10 with the outmanned buff for 6 hours and still held off a [HARD] assault on QL. Try again.

EDIT: You guys are sooooooo [HARD][CORE]. U make lolz

@ SF – Numbers don’t equal wins. You guys have an insane population in times that IoJ doesnt. The issue is, 12 IoJ WvW players can drop 30 of you. You guys just bank on your numbers equaling wins. Maybe against T7 & t8, but not the actual regular IoJ players. Suffer a few losses and you’ve suddenly lost half of those numbers. Work on that and people might be afraid of your numbers.

….. just so much lies…

Banzie.5248:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Averaelas.1876:

Aswell, no joke, there’s probably ten or less on map, half of which don’t speak English. Do you know how hard it is to command in Spanish? Attacke la torre. Da me el burrito. Regresen a los tacos

Be careful who you’re insulting, they might be a lot more hardcore than you think.

http://youtu.be/-rXt8L1Vu8A
(source: annual exploding sledgehammer festival in San Juan de la Vega)

TAQUITO!! Come try and kill the SF warrior inbetween mend and sf spawn, We be dueling there and only a few of us can tie, no one can win WE NEED YOU

Fun duels all those that dueled put a great fight, I was defeated by Fellblade. It was a really great fight around 10min with close calls on both sides! Btw i am always looking for duels from anyone so if u see me roaming on my own give me a /surprised and ill duel u Keep an eye out for that THCC warrior charr.

Xsorus.2507:

Veritas.6071:

Xsorus.2507:

Dand.8231:

Ashanor.5319:

It doesn’t really matter whether he was right or wrong about healing on a spirit ranger. They are part of the meta, where as warriors are not. If a spirit ranger comes in here complaining about this build it is pretty lame. He probably confused spirit ranger with BM regen builds.

Yeah, sorry. Spirit rangers make excellent mobile homepoints as part of the current meta, and BM regen builds can easily top 500 HP/s, as can many other builds and classes.

Did everyone already forget what Warriors were like before the healing buff?? You could just wear them down in a fight, and they could either stay and die, or turn and flee for their lives.

You COULD move some of the baseline healing into traited stuff, for the same overall result, but then again…. that’d only pidgeonholes warriors into those very traits because they need them to survive. You’ll see MORE gimmicky builds that way, not less.

The reason his healing seems OP is because he’s also controlling you (and you’re letting him) which means you’re not hitting him all the time.

I actually have no problem with you having improvements to your heals, Just as long as you have to invest in healing power like everyone else.

If you check out this thread, you’ll see we are pretty on par when you consider other sources of healing and mitigation. Warriors don’t have the luxury of easy access to reliable regen, evades and heals attached to our weapons, or protection. A lot of us made this class work over the last 11 months, and we got pretty decent with broken heals. Now that our heals have been buffed to the point that a player can’t just faceroll against a good warrior, people are getting hefty doses of skilled players at the helm of a competitive class.

Honestly, I was surprised to see you in here. Even after all these changes, Ranger still looks like a really tempting class to me. Great regen duration; preci and crit damage in the same tree; 150 precision 20 points deep in the power tree; really strong sustained ranged damage; good uptime on fury; stuns, dazes, and evades tacked onto some of your weapons… you guys have some tools that are pretty awesome. If it wasn’t for lemongrass, I dare say my ranger would make my warrior cry.

You’re not magically kicking butt because its all skill mate…You’re doing better now because the overbuffed your class

We also have evades on your weapons like you have Block on your shield, Because you have Heavy armor (and more HP) you get less Evades then us…

I mean did you look a the class list there, You have one of the best heals in the game now with no investment.

i lold we dont have the best heal in the game bud.

HatSimulator.9362:

Now that (almost) every warrior is using this build, and the fact that warriors are the most played class, I and many other people on the forums in different professions have had to make builds just to find how to counter all these stuns.
I’m not saying stunlock, unlimited healing warriors are OP but when every single class has to change traits and runes just to counter one class, it becomes OP.
(not replying to anything replying to this post, warriors are impossible to argue with)

im pretty sure there are more thieves and mesmers than warriors. How do u think us warriors feel dealing with conditions? Especially from necros….. stop whinning and learn to change your utilities….

Daecollo.9578:

Daecollo.9578:

Skull Crack isn’t good enough….
Throw your mace at your foe piercing foes, Stunning your foe with a skull crack. Effect increases with adrenaline level. When the mace hits your foe, it has a chance to stun all enemies near your foe and force them to make a post confirming how overpowered it is on the forums.
Damage: 999
Level 1 stun: 3 s
Level 2 stun: 6 s
Level 3 stun: 9 s
Blind Immunity: 3 s
Strips all the enemys weapons and armor
Enemy: Immunity to Stunbreak: 5 s
Range: 1500

Fixed.

re fixed

Still this thread is going? Cmon stop responding to Hunter…. he is a troll and doesn’t use stability, blind or any of his stun breakers.

Ynot.8397:

So how does SF have such a large zerg to defend a breakout in ARs border? This is just silly guys… Add another 20 or 30 onto that group and you have the SF zerg. This is all I could get before running away from that kittenty blob.

Did silent rage quit?

btw im always open for duels if you guys are tired of getting rolled down by zergs.

Can we stop replying to this troll thread? its just an angry player who doesn’t use his utility skills properly.

Warrior is not OP we are finally somewhat on par with other classes.

People need to chill and just take it out in-game. Looking for duels btw hit me up.

Zacchary.6183:

We got it because all we have are bleeds and more bleeds. Poison sucks and venom builds are almost non-existent because they pale in comparison to bleed condition builds and other zerk builds.

I lold irl thanks man that was a really good joke…. then I looked at your sig and laughed even more.

Posting anything in this forum wont help warrior in any way.
@Yendorion.2381 you are somewhat irrelevant.
Plus if they close this thread down it just proves they don’t care because there is no feedback or communication between Anet and its warrior community.

Yeah thats right GIVE WARRIORS LOVE.
Thieves got it for no reason… why cant a warrior get an extra condition for no reason?

I personally believe actions speak louder than words, Anets actions have proven that we are hated. They will go as far as making necromancers OP while changing the whole game meta to conditions….. Just makes no sense. Like im sure monkeys on acid could balance the game way better than the current staff is.

just go play WoW

Then you are a warrior.

Genji.3258:

I, a professional berserker warrior, was beaten by a guardian who wore no armor. Enough said.

Lold its all about dual sword bro and 10 signets

[THCC] looking for players of all skill types, newbie friendly. We won’t hesitate to help out if you need it. We do a lot of WvW but will help in PvE as well if needed. WvWvW: – We do higher ranks based on how much you do and contribute in WvW – We coordinate with voice chat systems. Don’t worry if you don’t own a mic, it would still help if you listen to what we say. Guild: – We are planning on doing guild missions on the weekends seeing thakittens the time when most people are available. – Doing everything as a guild should. Hope to see you guys out in the battlefield

Enmity.3428:

The majority of frustrated and dissatisfied [Warrior] players will simply and quietly exit the game.

That or play thief

If you think warrior is fine and we received buffs, then you are ignorant.

If you think warrior is fine then you are ignorant.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

[PvP] did not leave SF, it was disbanded. The members went to several other guilds, and some tried to form an [eXo] guild (which didn’t last very long either).

The original founder of [KING] (who really didn’t have much to do with their presence in WvW in comparison with the members who were in their daily) came back after a break and took the guild itself, and a few members over to an EU server.

Seven Mirror is still on SF, just on a break at the moment. The majority of [KING] members either reformed in [STaR] or merged with [PoPo] (I’ve heard the members that went to [PoPo] broke off and did their own thing now as well).

[CoSA], [LORD], [LH], [SONG], [SoF], [ICE] and us are still here (and other groups I forgot to mention). The former in the list always had the bulk of players and they are still here.

The largest problem was us running into a coverage wall when we hit T6 that first and second week.

What a lot of people assume while we were in tier 8, is that we had an obscene amount of transfers or something that caused us to go up tiers. That wasn’t true. What happened, was a core formed around several prominent Commanders and leaders in WvW. It was insane how many PvE’ers and casuals we got invested in WvW and how well we got everyone to listen and work together, it was great.

These people put a LOT of time into WvW, spending the majority of the weekend after reset nights and primetime weekdays in WvW leading people around, not just commanding, but utilizing tactics and boosting morale that kept people engaged and interested. Then the fairweather’s started hopping in, inflating our numbers even further and after winning weeks on end, started to taint our community with trolling and flaming (amongst ourselves, and towards ET and FC).

Then ET and FC got the points boost, we hopped out of t8 and started the train upwards. Even though we had a coverage gap in t7, our prime time was enough to hold the gap, intimidate the opponents, and get some semblance of a night crewe.

Then came t6, our night crew was absolutely obliterated by IoJ. To the point they didn’t even come in anymore, and IoJ would steamroll our maps at night. This lead to a lot of people that normally paid for upgrades and defending, to fall away from those roles. This then lead to a point-gap we had trouble reaching. The core during prime time was still pushing strong though, and dominated during our timeslot enough to keep up with the loss of nearly every structure nightly.

Eventually though, the formation of the core in tier 8 and pushing hard through all of t6 to reach the point where we were at a coverage wall made a lot of people realize how burned out they had become. Core members started taking ‘breaks’ (I am guilty of this as well) which was the start of the cohesion kind of falling to pieces.

We still have a core, and a lot of great commanders, but it is much more social and casual, than it was in the past. Combine that with fairweathers who normally leave during non-winning streaks (which we had for so long), the PvE/casual members who are farming out new content, and a lot of the structure loosening up; we are in a definite lull.

I’m sure at some point we will recover/reunite, but at this point I’m not sure when that will be. Until then, fun fights when we have them.

TL;DR – We’re all still here, just on holiday or smth.

Your information about KING is wrong.

This is an old build that was made slightly better in this patch

Ant.3415:

Yeah I take it all back. Defektive’s build is really good. It’s no where near as much fun as the brutal melee builds of the past but it’s effective:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Defektive-s-New-Meta-New-Patch-New-Build/first#post2299853

So just because 1 build is viable that makes warriors fine?

Callahan.3180:

Kukchi.6173:

Well you better stop playing gw2 as a warrior and play WHAT ANET WANTS YOU TO PLAY DAMmmmmmNIT. Play a kitten thief/necro/guerdian maybe mesmer.

um no. Played a war since gw1, and I will continue to do so. It’s definitely my play style, I just wish the devs would grow a brain and stop being morons.

Sounds like you are waiting for the rapture to happen.

Well you better stop playing gw2 as a warrior and play WHAT ANET WANTS YOU TO PLAY DAMmmmmmNIT. Play a kitten thief/necro/guerdian maybe mesmer.

Should play WoW then.

Anet do us a favor and get rid of warrior class. You “fixed” it toooooo well.
Seriously guardians do everything we do but better.

Does anyone in Anet play a warrior?

bro only 50 man? u need to change your traits. i can solo 100 man zergs with these new op buffs to warrior. GoodGame Anet dun messed up giving us these buffs. Why play any other class seriously?

Message from anet “warriors are fine, play some pve and check it out”

Bumping for superior justice.

yes… mesmers need more clones