Guild Wars 2

Kovu.7560:

If nothing else, this week’s T “2” roll won’t happen again.

~ Kovu

and
FA wouldn’t have rollled t3
SOS wouldn’t have rolled t4

maybe over 2 weeks, but not in 1 week….

this makes sense to at least try it……

attuned – worth it since it is so cheap to attune a ring. It is also a way to use 2 unique rings that are the same. Attune 1 and don’t attune the other.
infused – If you do alot of fractals and have the mist essences just sitting there than maybe, but then you would want AR for the fractals I would think. ie I wouldn’t go out of my way to do fractals just to infuse rings for wvw……

In the end, does it really matter? Part of the problem with this game mode is the total imbalance at various times in the day. On the surface this week shows DB and YB as pretty darn even. In reality DB rolls at certain times of the day and YB rolls at other times, both when the other is outnumbered…..

At game start it may have made sense to have battle groups that are assigned the common time slices SEA, EU, NA, OCX. The scoring could have adjusted based on the primary time zone assigned to the server. It’s just too late for that now so I care about when I play and not so much when I am asleep or at work. There are just some servers whose prime that doesn’t align with mine…….

the glicko scores are so close that the random +-100 roll can make things whack.

YB has been feast or famine ever since linking began. In reality the huge swings are not YB, but their link or lack of link. YB went from T1 to T3/T4. We got linked with FC and went back to T1 (with anet help). We lost all links and went to #12 (along with DK no longer playing). We are linked with FC and rolling T4 where we struggled to do anything a few weeks ago by ourselves. The links just don’t make sense OR last too long IMHO….

yes – tomorrow is re-link

Chaba.5410:

These matches are so even and balanced!

LOL good one. closest matches since 2012 !

apharma.3741:

Maybe it was to sort out the terrible lag issues EU has been having for months…

sorry NA has those too.

Bao Lin Nda.1042:

Straegen.2938:

If you want to “enjoy” WvW, how about growing some courage and going onto the low pop server for the week.

I’m on a low pop EU server since start. I’ve seen Anet ONCE. But not on our server, it was a kittenty matchup with a top ranked server – and they played on their side, of course. Since server get linked, I didn’t see any sign of Anet. Quite sure they never ever play on any low pop server.

Nothing lower than YB in NA now and a couple anet tags have been playing for a long time there.

Haematic.4913:

I’ve had a few guilds contact me because they’ve seen this thread.

Don’t be afraid of the stigma that’s been associated with “GvG” and “Scrims”; we’re mostly just looking for fights. Currently we’re running into an issue with members logging early or not logging in at all because of stale game-play in the borderlands.

Hunting for unicorn herds is not very fun.

think this is happening everywhere. even in t3/t4 it is often a map que blob (expected in T1 or 2, but t3 and t4?) which is no fun or doors (less fun) with little in between…

side note: The matriarch of the unicorn herd can be found on YB…… Sorry Niala had to…

Swagger.1459:

The current systems are fine.

And to comment on this… “But most can agree that farming enemy players is not good WvWvW.”… Sorry, but no. It’s fun, an effective tactic and killing pixels is what pvp minded players signed up for.
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until said spawn camp leaves no one to fight of course for the rest of the match…… OP’s server tanked from T1 because of “nothing to fight”. How long will the same tactic work with other opponents before they sit out a week when matched with said server?

imagine being a wvw player…. bupkiss there….

the repeated hibernating to cram more people in and the reduction of the cap multiple times has left BG in a perpetual state of full (until you hibernate again). I don’t think JQ was full when the links were made (I could be wrong though)

it stinks from my pov. too many changes over 2 months to retain poor linkages.

wvw competitive – that’s a good one……

Balthazzarr.1349:

Liston.9708:

there is a ‘hidden’ achieve for killing an anet tag NOT urban myth…. It is Conquer the Creator. Reddit says works in pvp or wvw…..

…and the hunt begins! …

YB has one that plays quite a bit and a second in the same guild that also plays, but less frequently. I love it personally when I play near that guild as the enemies sometimes play in a more YOLO style trying to kill that tag(s)….

there is a ‘hidden’ achieve for killing an anet tag NOT urban myth…. It is Conquer the Creator. Reddit says works in pvp or wvw…..

Straegen.2938:

Doubtful. WvW has such a tiny population spending development effort has a very low ROI.

DING DING DING DING this exactly

old story that had a video from a few months ago outside fire keep. YB was fighting I believe SOS or JQ. Both sides had sizable numbers and an anet tag. Messages were sent. Anet tag v anet tag 1v1 with at least 40+ onlookers from both sides. We watched and had a jolly good time. When 1v1 was over the massive melee began.

The night would have never been as fun without that 1v1 while we all watched…..

Xenesis.6389:

Liston.9708:

Straegen.2938:

Well stop rubbing salt in the wound anyway. DB is getting hammered by two MUCH more populated servers. Claiming DB’s garri when their tick is less than 50 is just dee bagg ery.

Happened all last week from SBI as well. If you want to “enjoy” WvW, how about growing some courage and going onto the low pop server for the week.

? YB is losing to you ….. We are not more populated no matter what anet’s silly status says AND no link…..

You keep crying YB is not full and has no link, yet they’re hanging well in t3 with servers that need 2-3 links to even compete with you. How about you finally open your eyes for a change, your server is big enough on it’s own to handle t3/4 linked servers. Players themselves do not know how populated their own server is unless they play 24/7 and have experienced every time zone to actually see it differently.

If you don’t want to play in t2 then stop crying about links? Maybe they didn’t want to make yet another t2 server out of yb so they didn’t get a link? Maybe YB already got it’s chance at higher tiers when they boosted their glicko and then dropped back down to t3 anyways?

when it makes any sense, i’ll stop complaining….

Straegen.2938:

Well stop rubbing salt in the wound anyway. DB is getting hammered by two MUCH more populated servers. Claiming DB’s garri when their tick is less than 50 is just dee bagg ery.

Happened all last week from SBI as well. If you want to “enjoy” WvW, how about growing some courage and going onto the low pop server for the week.

? YB is losing to you ….. We are not more populated no matter what anet’s silly status says AND no link…..

I don’t see the point in resetting servers. If going to that extreme, why not just get rid of servers? this from someone that has never moved their main account form the birth of gw2….

Bhima.9518:

pointaction.4639:

What is your thoughts and ideas?

What you think needs to be improved?

Give your response and please keep it clean so maybe ArenaNet will see it and get some ideas for WvW.

I think its time for Anet to really try and make Tier 1 fun for other servers than just BG. The other two servers should each have a much larger alliance server. For example, SoS should have say, YB and FA should have JQ or something like that. Really swing the balance of power when you push other servers to Tier 1 because, as it stands, both FA and SoS are wearing out pretty quickly to BG. I’m sure the bags are fun for a few days for BG, but I bet it gets a bit old ALWAYS being on top by such a large margin.

while the basic thought makes some sense, doubt any of fa, sos, yb or jq want to be guest servers whose glicko isn’t tracked… that is aside from the fact that yb doesn’t want anything to do with t1 anyway….

I’d rather blow-up the servers altogether (as long my guild lands on the same server) with no servers exceeding the pop cap…

Digikid.7230:

Liston.9708:

Sorry Maguuma, no one down here has your numbers.

To be fair, Mag did have a 13.3 KDR on EBG after the first skirmish and EBG had a queue for every server so the numbers were equal, I’m pretty sure YB/ DB are also outgunned.

red BL was the only queue for the first skirmish (no clue afterwords), and it wasn’t very deep….

and a Maguuma queue of 99 for EBG – YB hasn’t seen a queue like that since 2015…

Sorry Maguuma, no one down here has your numbers.

and tc/mag getting -100 glicko adjustment while sos/fa getting +20. Ie dont go t2 to escape t1 unless you want to leave your fate to rng roll….

looks left. looks right. whispers in hushed tones…..

I’ve never refreshed siege for the sole purpose of refreshing it since the day I entered WVW
when it wasn’t sell able, i’d drop for others to pick-up…..

I am happy in T3 myself, just the thought you have 0 chance of moving up and also struggling to maintain…. all the while being locked, not linked, and often out-manned all at the same time….

Simply said, the algorithms currently used stink….. No guarantee they are any better next re-linking…

The fact we can’t push to T2 if we wanted (not saying we do) does leave a feeling of why bother at all. If it wasn’t for the guild I am in and the fun we have, that is exactly how I would feel. There are still alot of people living the PUGLife that do care about score…..

Xenesis.6389:

Yes those were regular accounts for $10 for a limited time after the HoT announcement which I’m sure a lot players picked up, including myself. If people wanted to blow $10 to spy that’s their business.

I highly doubt a ton of those accounts from two years ago are on yb to afk troll them these days.

we do have a couple, but I doubt significantly more than other servers. i still think the methodology is simply ‘fubared’. Locked combined with no-link AND T3 is double-fubar on the surface.

T3 and T4 fights are decent so not as concerned as I was at first….. Just wish the peeps leaving T1 spread a little more.

there was also the 9.99 accounts some time ago before F2P. those could enter wvw right away – I think that is what Nutz might be thinking of…..

I am sort of interested to see what is done with a T1 server that has fallen all the way to high pop. That pop has to be lower than some guests now….

Since I am in T3 it doesn’t really affect me, I only care to see if someone is paying attention….

and now ‘high’ pop with the other guest servers…..

Xenesis.6389:

…..At least the population IS spreading out once again to the lower servers.
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or did they all go to the same place? sbi is now full…

events death blow – golem week……

did they all go to SBI?

Part of the problem from YBs perspective is that we are full AND no link. With that combo we can keep pace rolling a t4 match and sort of keep pace in a t3 match. We would never be able to move forward to say t2 if we wanted to.

In other words, our 1 full server lags behind the sum of some of the linked forces we face….. How does that make any sort of common sense? Granted this could be more of a link issue and not status issue…..

so afk and trolls (one person spams inventory all the time) DO count toward hours played? How do you measure “hours played” versus “hours contributed”?

iohc.6208:

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It doesn’t make sense how t3 and t4 have more fights than t1 does. Not that I am saying t1 should have more fights, but people in t1 are more eager for fights in general compared to the people in low tiers. …

BS – many people that want to fight realized long ago rolling around in lag inducing map que blobs isn’t fighting. (might be ok if the servers could handle it) We have found more fights in t3 in the 20-40 range this past month then we saw in quite some time. I believe many of the guilds were T1 escapees……

Indeed I was half joking. we will see next Monday when afkers and people who don’t really do anything don’t count against you.

Either way, I bet our 1 server count of hours/ranks is less than the sum of the linked server groupings around us. If this is true, the linking is just as flawed……

see Yaks Bend thread rank 9 server locked. Anet explains locking mechanism somewhat.

moral of the story…. no more scouting…. those people can rack up some serious time….

while I may not like the explanation, I appreciate it. So next question – where is the link? We do okay by ourselves in T3/T4 matches, but have no chance for t2 as is. (okay if we never go t1 ever again)

kefro.9312:

Probably because siege counts as population

this is 2017 not 2015…..

The only ways they can make a viable 3rd T1 server is linking something like JQ & FA or some such combo. They can’t doo that because they have never really addressed losing server identity or even tracking glicko as a guest…

I suppose the other option is booting people off of bg/mag, but I don’t see either option happening anytime soon.

I thought YB got screwed again with no link as server #9. That said, TC really is getting a raw deal with no visible escape until Anet manually adjusts JQ into T1. Then JQ will be in TCs predicament after a few weeks and will need for Anet to adjust TC/FA/SOS up. Of course many of those players on server #3 in the T1 match will just play alts on another server instead of getting stomped in a tier they don’t want to be in….

The scoring doesn’t work and neither does linking… New approach is needed.

HazyDaisy.4107:

Most people on servers 18-24 have have already transferred to a host server, so the fact that some higher hosts got 2 pairs means very little, because their pairs pops are extremely low. Since most people on those lower servers have left, I think, looking at T3-4 this pairing seems to be all about phase 2: trimming down pop on servers 13-17.

Any players at all is better than none…. If you want to “throw away” the links to server 3 and 4, then 5-6-7-8 still have better links as well. Clearly the thought was to try and make t1 competitive and well YB can compete by itself in T3 (with little to no chance of improving to T2 without a link AND full)

arnitheking.8427:

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I have to admit, will all due respect, that this decision feels like the devs may not be as well connected to EU wvw as they are to NA wvw

well in NA the #9 server got no link and #3 and #4 both got 2 links… They don’t understand NA either……

be done with the links already – they make no fricken sense… I get they tried to make TC / JQ competitive with BG /Mag, but a T3 server with no links at all and full when we are lucky to que 1 bl at < 10 ?

too late to tank for links

Arcaedus.7290:

Very disappointed that one of the biggest issues here wasn’t addressed. Why was epidemic not even so much as mentioned in the patch notes? It really needs a fix. At the cost of only requiring a handful of coordinated necros and proper gear, this skill alone carried certain guilds in zerg v zerg fights. There is also the scenario (which isn’t too uncommon) that if you and a group are standing next to a lord and trying to dps it down, all it takes is the literal push of a single button from 1 enemy necro, and 5 people will instantaneously die (30+ stacks of bleed and dozens of stacks of other condis all at once. This WILL kill you in one tick if you don’t have resistance on beforehand). This is a problem, things like this shouldn’t exist in the game.

once again only pve and pvp were really considered… mind blown this wasn’t changed.