Guild Wars 2

You have server pride within a name and not the physical individuals of the community. You place too much concentration on the actual name and not whom you’re playing with. A server is nothing more than a house and while it’s good to have pride in the upkeep of your house you should have more pride in your family and friends.

How does server-links stop you from playing with your community versus the other system? If you do not like mass numbers than you can still move to a lower tier to avoid the blobs. How does your group size reflect your server pride. WvW isn’t who has the biggest blob it’s who has the most coverage. This has never changed whether it’s the “old” system or the “new”.

I do not like Server-links. But I do not wish to go back to the old.

This time around I believe the reevaluation was done by Tiers. Arena Nets logic was pretty spot on. Good job Team!

As many people in previous threads said, you can not just unlink T1 servers because BG will not have a match. Therefore it wouldn’t make sense to unlink MAG. What would make sense is to reevaluate based off the tiers itself:

T1: BG, MAG, YB T2: TC, JQ, FA

When you look at it this way, you can see why MAG has a link and YB has a link.

Now with Tier 2 and specifically the argument of TC versus JQ, when Arena Nets overall goal is overall WvW balance you do not aim at giving a populated server like JQ more coverage simply because a competitor that is near equal out numbers them like TC did to JQ during the last 2 months.

Instead what you do is you take coverage from TC and you keep JQ the same. Thus, spreading out coverage from the top down in a Tier. TC loses its link and JQ doesn’t gain one. FA keeps a link. TC won quickly last match up with a link and now the only thing that’s changed is that YB is in the tier and TC does not have a link. Thus, JQ a direct competitor can compete at a greater level.

Not once yet did I mention Server population status. Because it seems that didn’t change. It doesn’t seem that it was evaluated thus it doesn’t change the reason as to why TC is open and JQ is locked.

JQ is an rare imbalanced server. JQs imbalance comes from their OCX to SEA that makes up a large portion of their overall coverage where as TC is the opposite(EU/NA). Most servers have a lack of OCX/SEA and it shows in the current match up.

You guys need to understand the difference between Victory Points and your rank and what determines it. When JQ SEA logs on, There is no opposition to slow them. You can see this last SEA time. The pie chart will start to look like pac-man. They have both TC and YB out numbered. After SEA, JQ loses all their forces besides 1 force and TC and YB have multiple forces and the pic chart looks like both TC and YB swallowing JQ. In fact both YB and TC gain on JQ at the same time and skirmishes come down to the wire between the two. Any 2 servers that fight JQ has the same issue and giving JQ more coverage simply means a rare super stacked server.

What JQ has to do is… Everyone has sayed it I dont have to.

gebrechen.5643:

Funny when GW2 wvw community Trump aka Mal says something like

I don’t like how JQ stacks to imbalance and kill off competition is all.

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Hey, maybe JQ just wants to do what you did all the years before? Stacking BG, stacking YB, stacking TC now and killing the competition?

You are so full of hot air, you could win a balloon race from Paris to Wellington and take four passengers with you.

Yeah You’re right. Which goes right back to the point I was trying to make. Which you clearly skipped over and b-lined straight to something I said that reflects us all that we all do. I said this for irony. Good work you caught it detective.

chill with the personal insults, those are more comparable to Trump rather than what I’m saying.

Jayne.9251:

Princess.7584:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

The only way to solve this issue is for ArenaNet to design mechanics to govern it.

plot twist: Arena Net doesn’t care it’s lining their pockets.

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

plot twist: Arena Net doesn’t care it’s lining their pockets.

Plot twist: someone forgot to log out of one account to the other.

I’m not princess just cause he agreed.

Swamurabi.7890:

Why is it that in NA you rarely, if ever, hear someone on a server say that they have too many players in a timezone. It’s always “we need more players to fill gaps in coverage”

When are the top servers going to realize that filling coverage gaps hurts WvW?

This is my point you hit is right on the head. The answer is never. Because the coverage each server has is speculated and not defined. Because Arena Net is leaving balancing up to the mass and the mass is incapable of agreeing on what they think is balanced or what they need.

The only way to solve this issue is for ArenaNet to design mechanics to govern it.

plot twist: Arena Net doesn’t care it’s lining their pockets.

hehehe ty! and true.

The quicker you guys stop demonizing servers and guilds and players for wanting to play in a healthy environment the quicker we can come together and help Arena Net figure out the issue.

There isn’t anything wrong with guilds being funded to servers. But what needs to happen is that there need to be regulation and control that can only be given by Arena Net. Servers structures do not do it and Server-links enable it.

I 100% agree. Arena Net fell so far out of touch with the community right then and there.

You know whats interesting? The fact that this is a match up thread now and no lock.
In fact, I believe Arena Net should have never dismissed match up threads because it give great insight under moderator control of the respective communities.

Just wanna point out that most server take part in the buying of guilds. Its not specific to BG or JQ.

DeceiverX.8361:

X T D.6458:

Well, just gonna throw this out there, that JQ is a full server, has so far placed last in 30 skirmishes and is now losing to SBI

TC-137
JQ-102
SBI-103

grabs white air popped popcorn

Like I said pages ago; their quality is not there, and TC’s SEA’s is.

Hilarious, though; Mal moaning about full servers and stacking when that’s literally all he does. Hope it stays locked to maybe help stop this bandwagon/mass-transfer BS mentality.

And don’t say just because I’m on TC which got stacked on that I can’t talk. I was in the camp who didn’t want any of it to begin with, and was very content with the close, quality fights and matchups we were having in T2 at the time.

Oh I’m not moaning I’m just explaining. In fact I’m playing the same game they are which is why I can explain it and identify the issue. The issue is our communities have no bounds nor no limits and only Arena Net can solve it.

Indeed. I’m here to entertain.

I would assume. JQ would open soon and wont stay perma locked. However, I don’t believe they need a link. If I were them I what prefer what I just said. Getting a link will give JQ a high chance to lose more guilds in the future when they become too stacked and unlinked. If I were JQ I would be trying to solidify the actual server and prepare for the kitten storm of guilds looking for a new home. JQ as it stands can compete thus they don’t need another server attached to them, they simply need controlled transfers. I believe this is why JQ was locked so fast and why Arena Net locked TC so fast when we got FUG.

This week JQ tanked hardcore at the initial start. Their performance over the weekend was pretty sad. Their NA picked up, but the rest of their time zones seem to be weaker than last week.

Map politics and cultural politics are also playing a role in the skirmish score and focusing of servers. Jade Quarry is at a disadvantage during this match-up thus becomes the focus most of the time.

It also does not help, that Desert BL belongs to SBI which means it overall will have less of a presence allowing SBI to consistently tick higher than they should.

JQ has a weakness to TC overall that gives TC an advantage that JQ was just able to solve by recruiting TW. However, TW is split because JQ is locked as expected and once TW is able to form up for EU if they choose to do so that will properly balance Kazo which is the force that pushes JQs kitten in. The interesting thing about the SEA TZ is SBI’s tick. This is showing that TC and JQ have each other occupied and again SBI BL general is ignored.

Midweek politics is a snow ball. The fight for first was over on Monday. This means the fight now is between JQ and SBI with TC playing king maker. You then should notice SBI and JQ swapping positions with JQ in the disadvantage simply because TC’s pressure. Despite the disadvantage SBI, isn’t blowing away with 2nd which means to me if the politics were different JQ would have no issue defeating SBI.

Xenesis.6389:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

yanniell.1236:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

BG shouldn’t be opened. There are at least 3 large guilds wanting to move there and it will just cause a huge imbalance.

OnS talking about causing imbalance. Priceless. What server/tier are you guys destroying now? kittened up JQ, YB and TC. What’s next?

T1 now is just us rolling over everyone else without even trying thanks to your kittenty alliance bandwagoners. Go talk about imbalance somewhere else.

Yeah, I’m talking about Imbalance because if anyone can provide insight as to why its happening it is me. Thanks for your understand and your patients. What server are you on? coming with an alt

[OnSL] Revival hype!

:D OnSL served it’s purpose. It was an experience that I don’t regret.

yanniell.1236:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

BG shouldn’t be opened. There are at least 3 large guilds wanting to move there and it will just cause a huge imbalance.

OnS talking about causing imbalance. Priceless. What server/tier are you guys destroying now? kittened up JQ, YB and TC. What’s next?

T1 now is just us rolling over everyone else without even trying thanks to your kittenty alliance bandwagoners. Go talk about imbalance somewhere else.

Yeah, I’m talking about Imbalance because if anyone can provide insight as to why its happening it is me. Thanks for your understand and your patients. What server are you on? coming with an alt

Green Arrow.5689:

Sometimes all you have to do is say……..

Please and thank you

LMAOO….. 10/10

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

You guys are tanking or purpose says your discord.

Having a look in discord and there’s nothing of the sort.

I would copy and paste for you but it’s not necessary. You admitted on GW2wvw.net as did many many other JQers. I assume you are pretending in the face of Arena Net right now to be honest. It’s all good though, tank or don’t tank your heart out. Anyone who is tanking for a link is doing damage to their community. Some can take it some can’t. It’s showing a problem with server links though and after all these debates I’m sure Arena Net is now aware so keep it up.

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

I don’t think the community should be worried about Arena Net moving individuals for certain reasons. They aren’t moving entire guilds this way.

He’s not just an individual, he’s a popular off hours commander. That can have a huge influence.

Arena Net has no way of measuring Influence, if they did then they might have figured a better way to balance the communities. You can’t expect them to know the kind of weight that is pulled by Green Arrow. The same way Arena Net will never be able to gauge the weight of TW transferring. Just like no one was able to gauge the influence of a mass transfer of a newly created alliance. Remember Arena Net had to lock Yaks Bend to stop it, the same way they locked TC for getting FUG and the same way they locked JQ for getting TW.

Its individuals to them and influences aren’t taken into great consideration.

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

TW transfer mid week. You haven’t even seen the effects of them playing and you guys are asking for more. TC hasn’t even seen the effects of losing them and you think JQ needs a link? I don’t understand. You don’t have to be even against MAG and BG. That’s not the objective. Hell those two servers are too stacked. You need to stop comparing your server to them and look at the bigger picture. Before last night there was a 9 to 10k gap difference between JQ and TC. What do you think that gap would have looked like if TW had started there versus over here? I understand the end of the week snowball is taking into effect, but you shouldnt need an abundance of coverage to compete at this level. BG and MAG are both bloated and MAG will more than likely be unlinked because of it..

Well TW started with JQ this week and its now looking to be pretty similar to last week, so its fair to say TW hasn’t made a big enough difference that JQ shouldn’t get a link.

You guys are tanking or purpose says your discord. Not to mention the overtime I had to do last night to catch up. It’s funny how, you guys accuse others of tanking on purpose yet here you are.

JQNA played up until OCX the last 2 days, OCX had it usual turn out. Cloud Fly was on. I personally couldn’t see any tanking. And its pretty funny you seem to be so up in arms about JQ, when BG, Mag, YB, TC and DB have all done it. You just have a personal issue with JQ.

TC never organized to tank. I don’t have personal issues with JQ, I don’t like how JQ stacks to imbalance and kill off competition is all.

You protest too. You’re talking about what happened in the dim dark past of the game and its not relevant to the present.

What? Thought I was talking about TC not tanking and JQ tanking now. Thought I was talking about the purchasing of guilds between servers and how it creates an imbalance. That’s still happening and thats not the past. Protest? I don’t understand.

Princess.7584:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

I don’t think the community should be worried about Arena Net moving individuals for certain reasons. They aren’t moving entire guilds this way.

This not just some solo person being reunited with his Guild.

If a server is locked, then there is a reason, in this case everyone knows that no one can compete with BG. As part of the community Im worried, because it seems to be selectively moving people, so what anet are saying is, we locked BG because we are only going to allow certain people to join? Could this have happened without a devs imput if not then in this case can it not be classed as nepotism or manipulation?

RodOfDeath.5247:

To add, that certain player mentioned before is a fine commander and tags up quite often. That server gained a valuable player/asset and anet should explain why special treatment was given if it indeed happened.

Indeed.

I can’t really discredit what you’re saying and I can’t speak for Arena Net as to why they do this. I find it strange that a leader would leave his guild behind and go to another server with Arena nets help. but I still don’t think the act of doing so is problematic. What is problematic is the perception of it happening in regards to the communities outlook on it. If I were Arena Net I would deliver more transparency on the issue to dissolve any perception.

All I know if JQ doesnt get a link after tanking theres gonna be some hurt people lol.

Jayne.9251:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Princess.7584:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Princess.7584:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

What? I don’t know the reasons why Devs choose to move people despite the link. I just stated the facts and I know this to be true because I have Arenanet staff in my guild and I have met individuals with these abilities.

Hel also has devs in Guild, moving a off hour Guild into a already stacked server, seems someone paid more than cookies.

No one moved Hel. A singular person is not moving a guild regardless if Hel has Devs or not.

A popular off hours commander is moved on to a locked very stacked server. This is not someone that has waited eons to join his guild, there is plenty that would like to know the reason why this case was different than all other requests we read about for people to join friends.

Yeah its questionable. ArenaNet will never tell you why. They’ve also been doing this since the dawn of time. They’ve moved people to locked servers for reasons unknown many many many times over even during a season tournament. They will not tell you why because they simply don’t want the community to take advantage I’m sure.

Again, if this is true, there should be some explanation.

It is true whether you believe it or not it’s been happening since the games launch.
Someone famous for doing it is Heurix who is a shoutcaster for SPvP tournaments.
There are a few individuals in my guild whose gotten Arena Net to move them despite the lock and I remember one specific case where Arena Net swapped someones alt account with their main on a locked server.

I don’t think the community should be worried about Arena Net moving individuals for certain reasons. They aren’t moving entire guilds this way.

if TC tanked at one point I was left in the dust. 1 person brought it up in a TC meeting and everyone agreed it wasnt a good idea because it isnt.

Princess.7584:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Princess.7584:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

What? I don’t know the reasons why Devs choose to move people despite the link. I just stated the facts and I know this to be true because I have Arenanet staff in my guild and I have met individuals with these abilities.

Hel also has devs in Guild, moving a off hour Guild into a already stacked server, seems someone paid more than cookies.

No one moved Hel. A singular person is not moving a guild regardless if Hel has Devs or not.

A popular off hours commander is moved on to a locked very stacked server. This is not someone that has waited eons to join his guild, there is plenty that would like to know the reason why this case was different than all other requests we read about for people to join friends.

Yeah its questionable. ArenaNet will never tell you why. They’ve also been doing this since the dawn of time. They’ve moved people to locked servers for reasons unknown many many many times over even during a season tournament. They will not tell you why because they simply don’t want the community to take advantage I’m sure.

All servers realistically bite off each other. The problem is there is no cap to it. There is no defined structure. We all don’t know no matter how hard we try to decipher coverage. Arena Net needs to give the proper mechanics to balance and with that we wont have the problems we are having. This includes Jade Quarry. JQ is a product of a system thats no longer in place, and all servers including JQ tend to look at the old system when they decide they need coverage. That’s my point. JQ is doing what is has to do as is TC.

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

You can’t determine that. A 2 month cycle is too long under a rotation. Our positions change too drasically and so does how population cap. If Arena Net were to say upon a link time that Tier 1 servers are not to have a link, then within 1 or 2 weeks that Tier 1 server will be in another tier imbalanced without a link. An example of this is Jade Quarry or even Dragonbrand.

My examples would include BG, Maguuma, YB and TC. Don’t pretend to be so upstanding.

I choose recent examples. MAG has never lost a link after gainning one so they are no example. BG lost a link but did not fall because they have coverage that is well beyond that of their link. Also not an example. TC can be an example although TC has been floating between T1 and T2 for a long period. My examples were sound examples. Yours were not given my point. I also do not pretend. I say whats on my mind.

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

TW transfer mid week. You haven’t even seen the effects of them playing and you guys are asking for more. TC hasn’t even seen the effects of losing them and you think JQ needs a link? I don’t understand. You don’t have to be even against MAG and BG. That’s not the objective. Hell those two servers are too stacked. You need to stop comparing your server to them and look at the bigger picture. Before last night there was a 9 to 10k gap difference between JQ and TC. What do you think that gap would have looked like if TW had started there versus over here? I understand the end of the week snowball is taking into effect, but you shouldnt need an abundance of coverage to compete at this level. BG and MAG are both bloated and MAG will more than likely be unlinked because of it..

Well TW started with JQ this week and its now looking to be pretty similar to last week, so its fair to say TW hasn’t made a big enough difference that JQ shouldn’t get a link.

You guys are tanking or purpose says your discord. Not to mention the overtime I had to do last night to catch up. It’s funny how, you guys accuse others of tanking on purpose yet here you are.

JQNA played up until OCX the last 2 days, OCX had it usual turn out. Cloud Fly was on. I personally couldn’t see any tanking. And its pretty funny you seem to be so up in arms about JQ, when BG, Mag, YB, TC and DB have all done it. You just have a personal issue with JQ.

TC never organized to tank. I don’t have personal issues with JQ, I don’t like how JQ stacks to imbalance and kill off competition is all.

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

JQ is purposely tanking too.

From where I’m sitting Mag and YB are purposefully tanking.

YB is. They’ve even said it. I have no clue about MAG. Why would MAG tank? They are open and they have a link.

Princess.7584:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

What? I don’t know the reasons why Devs choose to move people despite the link. I just stated the facts and I know this to be true because I have Arenanet staff in my guild and I have met individuals with these abilities.

Hel also has devs in Guild, moving a off hour Guild into a already stacked server, seems someone paid more than cookies.

No one moved Hel. A singular person is not moving a guild regardless if Hel has Devs or not.

Jayne.9251:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Jayne.9251:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Devs can move people regardless of the cap for reasons and some people have the power to ignore the cap and transfer to servers they want also for reasons.

See? Now you’re making things sounds sketchy by innuendo again.

Doing anything you mention above is unethical.

What? I don’t know the reasons why Devs choose to move people despite the link. I just stated the facts and I know this to be true because I have Arenanet staff in my guild and I have met individuals with these abilities.

You’re contradicting yourself in a single paragraph.

“I don’t know the reasons why devs choose to move”

“I know this to be true because I have Arenanet staff in my guild”

Yeah this is not cool.

There is no contradiction. I know Devs choose to move people. I don’t know the reasons as to why.

Jayne.9251:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Devs can move people regardless of the cap for reasons and some people have the power to ignore the cap and transfer to servers they want also for reasons.

See? Now you’re making things sounds sketchy by innuendo again.

Doing anything you mention above is unethical.

What? I don’t know the reasons why Devs choose to move people despite the link. I just stated the facts and I know this to be true because I have Arenanet staff in my guild and I have met individuals with these abilities.

Devs can move people regardless of the cap for reasons and some people have the power to ignore the cap and transfer to servers they want also for reasons.

IF the servers push up with a link, they will be able to maintain. If they are unlinked they will drop like a rock and cause an exodus if they cannot rise again.

There is no challenge fighting a server you cannot beat. There is more demoralization and attrition then there is an challenging experience. Furthermore, with your example on current scenario, servers are trying to tank to get a link or to open. What you suggest would make this greater and people will tank match ups before a link, just to drop to Tier 2 and receive a link for the next two months.

You can’t determine that. A 2 month cycle is too long under a rotation. Our positions change too drasically and so does how population cap. If Arena Net were to say upon a link time that Tier 1 servers are not to have a link, then within 1 or 2 weeks that Tier 1 server will be in another tier imbalanced without a link. An example of this is Jade Quarry or even Dragonbrand.

2 month reevaluation is too slow given player movements. No other server can stand up against BG without a link, and BG doesn’t have one and server-links doesn’t give enough incentive BGers to move thus not giving the surrounding servers a link around BG, will leave that tier imbalanced for 2 months.

ArenaNet needs to figure out a way to balance the servers that are too populated to retain a link.

JQ is purposely tanking too.

Tanking on purpose isn’t going to give you a link.

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

TW transfer mid week. You haven’t even seen the effects of them playing and you guys are asking for more. TC hasn’t even seen the effects of losing them and you think JQ needs a link? I don’t understand. You don’t have to be even against MAG and BG. That’s not the objective. Hell those two servers are too stacked. You need to stop comparing your server to them and look at the bigger picture. Before last night there was a 9 to 10k gap difference between JQ and TC. What do you think that gap would have looked like if TW had started there versus over here? I understand the end of the week snowball is taking into effect, but you shouldnt need an abundance of coverage to compete at this level. BG and MAG are both bloated and MAG will more than likely be unlinked because of it..

Well TW started with JQ this week and its now looking to be pretty similar to last week, so its fair to say TW hasn’t made a big enough difference that JQ shouldn’t get a link.

You guys are tanking or purpose says your discord. Not to mention the overtime I had to do last night to catch up. It’s funny how, you guys accuse others of tanking on purpose yet here you are.

Nightingale.8364:

It may seem a rather prudent idea to infact end this experiment with the cannons as soon as possible. The amount of ridicule that has been aimed in the direction of ANET because of this addition would make any company think twice. Stop with the cannons please.

This^ too be honest I nearly thought ArenaNet was troll baiting.

Jeknar.6184:

I don’t know… After seeing NSP rolling a T2 match in FA place like when they had a 150 rating difference feels simply like they are just adding the rating at the time of RNG roll.

When they adjust a server they adjust it at the end of a match up no?

Aurika.6751:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Its ridiculous to ask for Jade Quarry to have a link after just recruiting a guild of 50+ players directly from one of your competitors. Your competitor (TC) who you took coverage from needs a link to keep up. You don’t. It’s nearly as if people here ask for JQ to be unstoppable. As if, JQ needs to be in a locked Tier 1 or something. It’s beyond me that you can spend 40k gold and legendaries to get one of the strongest coverage guilds in the game and seriously ask for more in this game state. This alone is why ArenaNet needs to end bid wars and place a serious cap on communities who think they are balancing.

If I were Arena Net I’d have locked you too.

EDIT: And because JQ, just recruited a large guild and caused their server to lock and a competitor to have less coverage I wouldn’t be surprised now, if you received no link and TC kept theirs and stayed open.

The guild in question did not move 50 people over.

I just did the math for gold spent and compared it to that of FUG. 30, 40, 50 the numbers don’t even state the type of coverage TW brings to a server. The price advertise whether right or wrong listed 35k gold estimating gem prices at 500 a person give or take that’s 70 people. Playing with you and against you I know you don’t field 70 people. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and just said 50+ Regardless the guild in question has at least 8 commanders and covers 2 time zones. I think Arena Net was well in their right to lock the server even if its temporary to prevent a bandwagon.

Roxanne.6140:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

The reason servers are in the state their in isn’t due to cannons or them purposely tanking for a link. It’s due to the attrition rate of this game. The game is boring and if we don’t give ourselves a reason to play, it’s hard to keep playing everyday. I do not just look at the current week when I try to evaluate server performance. If you look at one said week as an observation, you will come to a very different conclusion.

Remember links are reevaluated every 2 months and initially at the start JQ not receivinrage actually gotten to your actual server. Right now MAG is ranked first place overall and if Arena Net looked at the data they would see that in this 2 month time period MAG has won the majority of their matches and they are linked. I believe MAG will be unlinked come reevaluation and when they are how do you think that will effect their standings and community after using their link to prop their numbers.

Furthermore if MAG is unlinked, now BG has no match. BG hasnt had a paired server for a long time now and their coverage is actually on their server. If they simply opened up JQ and allowed for mass transfers to fill your coverage holes then what they would then be doing would be creating another BG that’s not breakable by reevaluations. The idea isn’t to balance out a Tier, it’s to balance out the overall population thus is more beneficial to ArenaNet to keep a server like JQ and BG locked while trying to direct people to server pairs and servers like FA who also need to compete in the environment.

TC is in the same position as MAG. Once we lose our link, it will require a lot mroe effort to simply compete even in Tier 2 level.

You should notice a trend considering both JQ and TC has had links and has not. I specifically told TC to NOT recruit to our link because it not a good way to balance our coverage issues. In fact it will set us up to lose numbers and have a sense of dependency that is temporary.

Such an impressive wall of text yet you didn’t mention that TC also gained a huge guild and your server status is not even full. JQ didnt even manage to get your said guild across.

TC gained FUG a 30 man guild after losing KnF. When TC gained FUG, TC was locked right after and only opened up a week there after the initial lock.

When TC became locked we got blocked not only did FUG get caught but so did TBT. Same way you’re getting blocked now. What’s your point?

I’m confused as to what a forum specialist job is.

Roxanne.6140:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Roxanne.6140:

Princess.7584:

morrolan.9608:

Look at the scores. If you think half of TW will suddenly mean JQ is competing evenly against Mag, BG and TC you’re wrong. JQ will still be the 5th ranked server.

Just log in now and see how weak your SEA is against TC? Mags has less, YB? Just DK,
The issue here seems to be, that you can not see the problem because you are too close.

Can BG even summon 2 map queue zergs in SEA now? This is what you/JQ have at this time, 50+ (seems to be a map queue) on EB and at least 40+ on the borderlands.

So funny to hear people compare top 2nd or 3rd server with a ranked 5 server. You guys aren’t playing because of relinking and cannons. period. I played against your server during this time before and this is not the normal size.

What? a few weeks ago JQ was ranked higher than TC. You are forgetting how flexible the ranks are. You are forgetting cannons has been in play less than a week. You are forgetting that we have two SEA guilds one that has been on the server less than 2 months in time. You are ranked 5 server for now, but in a few weeks?

Its funny to hear people compare JQ to other servers as if you’re suppose to be in an designed tier when we are all rotating. In fact JQ only compares JQ to the highest of populated servers without realizing that there are other servers to compare with. Yet, JQ asks for more? It would have been more of a balancing act to have your last guild transfer to FA in fact.

Its precisely that cannons were only just introduced so you guys might be just waiting it out till they are removed to play again. I don’t know, sometimes when I look at you guys, you just seem to be a fat red thing so I didn pay notice to the names.

And I am comparing JQ to higher tier servers because JQ plus higher tier servers didn’t get a link and somehow the server status is still full.

Anyhow, I feel this interaction between us is like a frequency cross talk. Some frequency channels match and some don’t. You know what I mean?

The reason servers are in the state their in isn’t due to cannons or them purposely tanking for a link. It’s due to the attrition rate of this game. The game is boring and if we don’t give ourselves a reason to play, it’s hard to keep playing everyday. I do not just look at the current week when I try to evaluate server performance. If you look at one said week as an observation, you will come to a very different conclusion.

Remember links are reevaluated every 2 months and initially at the start JQ not receiving a link was on pair with DB and TC in the previous state. We already know that within 2 months things can change drastically. However JQ just made a huge purchase right before a reevaluation and if Arena Net takes in the total 2 month time frame, it would make sense to lock you before JQ further skews data to determine if they should be reevaluated for a link.

If ArenaNet choose to ignore the fact that JQ gained a large guild from a direct competitor in the same tier and thus linked JQ next despite it, what you’d see is a drastic imbalance and ArenaNet unintentionally egging on a bandwagon.

Links are not permanent. What’s permanent is the coverage actually gotten to your actual server. Right now MAG is ranked first place overall and if Arena Net looked at the data they would see that in this 2 month time period MAG has won the majority of their matches and they are linked. I believe MAG will be unlinked come reevaluation and when they are how do you think that will effect their standings and community after using their link to prop their numbers.

Furthermore if MAG is unlinked, now BG has no match. BG hasnt had a paired server for a long time now and their coverage is actually on their server. If they simply opened up JQ and allowed for mass transfers to fill your coverage holes then what they would then be doing would be creating another BG that’s not breakable by reevaluations. The idea isn’t to balance out a Tier, it’s to balance out the overall population thus is more beneficial to ArenaNet to keep a server like JQ and BG locked while trying to direct people to server pairs and servers like FA who also need to compete in the environment.

TC is in the same position as MAG. Once we lose our link, it will require a lot mroe effort to simply compete even in Tier 2 level.

You should notice a trend considering both JQ and TC has had links and has not. I specifically told TC to NOT recruit to our link because it not a good way to balance our coverage issues. In fact it will set us up to lose numbers and have a sense of dependency that is temporary.

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Princess.7584:

morrolan.9608:

Look at the scores. If you think half of TW will suddenly mean JQ is competing evenly against Mag, BG and TC you’re wrong. JQ will still be the 5th ranked server.

Just log in now and see how weak your SEA is against TC? Mags has less, YB? Just DK,
The issue here seems to be, that you can not see the problem because you are too close.

Can BG even summon 2 map queue zergs in SEA now? This is what you/JQ have at this time, 50+ (seems to be a map queue) on EB and at least 40+ on the borderlands.

So funny to hear people compare top 2nd or 3rd server with a ranked 5 server. You guys aren’t playing because of relinking and cannons. period. I played against your server during this time before and this is not the normal size.

What? a few weeks ago JQ was ranked higher than TC. You are forgetting how flexible the ranks are. You are forgetting cannons has been in play less than a week. You are forgetting that we have two SEA guilds one that has been on the server less than 2 months in time. You are ranked 5 server for now, but in a few weeks?

Its funny to hear people compare JQ to other servers as if you’re suppose to be in an designed tier when we are all rotating. In fact JQ only compares JQ to the highest of populated servers without realizing that there are other servers to compare with. Yet, JQ asks for more? It would have been more of a balancing act to have your last guild transfer to FA in fact.

Automatic Balistas firing at 20 shots per second IMO.

My bad you didnt beat MAG, you were in 15k points from them. You however did beat TC.

The objective isnt to give every server balance time zone coverage. That’s impossible. You don’t need more coverage just because you are weak in certain timezones. You don’t need more coverage because other servers have too much. They just need less.

Links are not a safety net or a positive to your coverage. If you have a link this means your server is weak for your rank and you need it. If TC didn’t have a link and just lost TW, TC wouldn’t be competing with JQ now would it. In fact, we’ve lost to JQ many times while having TW. In fact we’ve lost to YB, JQ, MAG, and BG and FA! with a link and TW and we just lost TW. Therefore we lost coverage and you’ve gained. However, if you look at the last 5 to 10 weeks JQ has even beaten MAG.

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Its ridiculous to ask for Jade Quarry to have a link after just recruiting a guild of 50+ players directly from one of your competitors. Your competitor (TC) who you took coverage from needs a link to keep up. You don’t.

Look at the scores. If you think half of TW will suddenly mean JQ is competing evenly against Mag, BG and TC you’re wrong. JQ will still be the 5th ranked server.

TW transfer mid week. You haven’t even seen the effects of them playing and you guys are asking for more. TC hasn’t even seen the effects of losing them and you think JQ needs a link? I don’t understand. You don’t have to be even against MAG and BG. That’s not the objective. Hell those two servers are too stacked. You need to stop comparing your server to them and look at the bigger picture. Before last night there was a 9 to 10k gap difference between JQ and TC. What do you think that gap would have looked like if TW had started there versus over here? I understand the end of the week snowball is taking into effect, but you shouldnt need an abundance of coverage to compete at this level. BG and MAG are both bloated and MAG will more than likely be unlinked because of it..

Its ridiculous to ask for Jade Quarry to have a link after just recruiting a guild of 50+ players directly from one of your competitors. Your competitor (TC) who you took coverage from needs a link to keep up. You don’t. It’s nearly as if people here ask for JQ to be unstoppable. As if, JQ needs to be in a locked Tier 1 or something. It’s beyond me that you can spend 40k gold and legendaries to get one of the strongest coverage guilds in the game and seriously ask for more in this game state. This alone is why ArenaNet needs to end bid wars and place a serious cap on communities who think they are balancing.

If I were Arena Net I’d have locked you too.

EDIT: And because JQ, just recruited a large guild and caused their server to lock and a competitor to have less coverage I wouldn’t be surprised now, if you received no link and TC kept theirs and stayed open.