Guild Wars 2

Shield Generators are OP as hell. A lot of focus on ACs being over used by the community but the true threat post HoT has always been the Shield Generator.

I never hated DBL in the first place. I just thought it needed work. One could say the same about Alpine…

You guys arguing over if a server is dying or not… First you need to define “dying”.
If “not dying” means they can produce fights in 2/4 time zones or if dying means their overall population is taking a drastic hit which is most certainly has been. Considering before server pairings and what seems to be a manual lock, Jade Quarry server population status dropped pretty hard and given this data here and other forms of statistics everywhere as well. Keep in mind this is an NA based game. NA greatly outnumbers all the other time zones. Now ask yourself if this is true of Jade Quarry?

Yaks Bend is the reverse opposite. They lack off hours, while both their counter servers have off- hours. BG is the only server in the tier with balanced overall time zone coverage giving them a god like advantage.

Activity doesn’t necessarily mean overall population either. So to judge the health of a server you can’t just take one statistic and use it to depict server health or if a server is dying or not.

- This graph though is very helpful. Thanks dude and keep up the good work here.

The Desert Map is awesome. When they bring back the Alpine map they need to drastically change it. If then do not, they I don’t see how bringing the map back will be good for the game. I don’t want to play the same map I’ve played for 2 years… the recent changes to the new map have been superb. They just need to fix the oasis event mainly.

EBG has always been the spot for queues and militia. It’s been this way even before hot. The most populated servers always have a high queue on EBG. Nothing with change with the alpine map. This will still remain true.

Most of the player base likes constant action with no down time. That’s what EBG is, That’s what alpine promotes.

Chaba.5410:

Anet,

We’ve suffered in NA for a long time now with Glicko rating between top tiers being too large and leading to match stagnation, which in turn lead to large guild movements in arguably vain attempts to counter it. The goal of all these changes you are doing to WvW should be to even out population across all tiers and create better matches. But…

Glicko was designed for 1v1 matches. WvW is a three-way match where each server gets compared to the other two on an individual basis so what that means is servers at tier borders never match up against each other. Instead they compare themselves against servers 2 ranks above/below them; of course they’re going to do much better/worse than the system predicted.

Resetting volatility and deviation does not look like it is going to cut it. Especially not with the server links increasing the activity levels across all four match-ups. All it has done is make for faster drops/rises. The partial reset does nothing for preventing stagnation of matches.

There are two main extremes that kill WvW for most players: wide population disparities and stagnation. Players need relatively even matches and variation of opponents to keep it both fun and interesting. Right now you have the piece for alleviating population disparities with server linking. If you create matches though where there will be stagnation, all you are doing is boring players again. I wish NA were more like EU, but it is not and now the sample size of only four matches leads to increased inaccuracy. You have to do more. You have to make some way that servers at tier borders can get the chance to be in a match together.

I agree 100% with this. The entire system needs to be looked at because we are going to place ourselves in the same mess. It’s already happening.

Chaba.5410:

Endelon.1042:

But why do you care?

Linked world players are going to be in WvW with home world players. For purposes of WvW, there isn’t an overriding reason to restrict them from WvW TS channels. What other reasons would channels be restricted from non-TC players?

TC only meetings. non-TC players as in players TC is fighting as well. They use the API key to detect server world. If they use the API key they’d have to then change the code. There are tons of reasons as to why you’d still have or want security and the ability to detect if someone is playing on your side in any given match up.

Endelon.1042:

Chaba.5410:

Sus.3610:

I have had TC admins contact me about setting up channels for our guilds etc.

LOL. Someone on TC bought into the faked notes about server merges.

Why over complicate this? Just set up a TS channel for linked world members.

My understanding is that someone from DR messaged someone on TC. But why do you care?

I’m worried about what kind of mess this is going to create for server Teamspeaks. If verify is done through an API auto verify system then the code is going to need to be changed each time the linked worlds change. If we verify manually then we’ll need to setup a whole separate set of user groups. Either way it’s going to be a mess to deal with if the linked worlds change with any kind of frequency.

Arena Net would need to add an end point for WvW match up and server partners. When and if they add that endpoint then what you’d do is check the API keys server ID and compare it to the pairing. Therefore the system would be flexible no matter what pairing. If the partnership changes then you can run a cron to check the pairings and if they changed, you can remove that said permission set or access.

if it’s done manually, then each time a partner is changed, then that rank or permission should be deleted or altered. You might have to look into guild leaders or such granting access to militia and pugs in certain channels only to help the work load.

Chaba.5410:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Chaba.5410:

Sus.3610:

I have had TC admins contact me about setting up channels for our guilds etc.

LOL. Someone on TC bought into the faked notes about server merges.

Why over complicate this? Just set up a TS channel for linked world members.

TC runs off the API key. Their validation process is done through it. Not to mention they coordinate on their forums and TS3. It’s well in their right to prepare. Stop being so rude dude.

TC going to DR guilds and asking them to set up guild channels on the TC TS is rude. Good preparation doesn’t make a house of cards on rumors.

Now here we have information about the actual change and can do real preparation for it. API verification can be done simply. Give non-TC members access to specific “linked world” channels.

“Yes, they absolutely are merging servers. Leaked patch notes are never wrong.”-Ayyye Chaba

Chaba.5410:

Sus.3610:

I have had TC admins contact me about setting up channels for our guilds etc.

LOL. Someone on TC bought into the faked notes about server merges.

Why over complicate this? Just set up a TS channel for linked world members.

TC runs off the API key. Their validation process is done through it. Not to mention they coordinate on their forums and TS3. It’s well in their right to prepare. Stop being so rude dude.

It seems like server pairings aren’t stationary. So what ever administrative system is developed it would have to stay flexible. keep in mind this is Beta and expect the system to also change during it. Thus I recommend to keep your server communities in tact but prepare to make them flexible via API key.

A reset would not make the problems worse it would fix the problems. It would fix JQ being stuck and DB and TC being considered Tier 1 servers. It would fix MAG consistently destroying Tier 3 and most importantly when the server are pair it would strike a better balance quicker.

“I find that hard to believe as it seems a very easy win. I don’t think anyone is trying to keep you in t2 as much as people just want to show you that they don’t like what you’re doing. You keep hijacking servers to make the game more fun for you and your friends. Do you not see how selfish that seems? It would be nice to stop you and your alliance dead in your tracks but I don’t know if there are enough guilds left that can really do that.”

Tier 2 doesn’t seem like an easy win to me. Nor did we think it would be easy like Yaks Bend was. We didn’t hijack Tarnished Coast. We tried to contact as many of the leaders as possible before we moved. TC even had 2 meetings on it. Both of which favored The alliance. We were accepted with open arms and no hostilities.

“But why Tarnished Coast? Why pick the server you previously worked so hard to push out of t1? Why not just spread out amongst the remaining t1 servers or stack BG and/or JQ to bring down YB? Why go back to t2 and ruin things again?”

I did not work so hard to push Tarnished Coast out. I even went there on alt accounts prior because I liked the server. When TC fell out of Tier 1, they chose to not care if they did or didn’t. I was the one trying to convince them otherwise. It turns out them falling out of the tier might just have benefited all of us.

“They just lack the strength to really shut you down. On reset night we were able, with DB’s help, to keep TC relatively contained for several hours but it wasn’t sustainable. If FA and DB could consistently keep all your stuff capped and your keeps waypointed and keep your people spawn camped 24/7 I think a lot of the members of your alliance would lose interest. But I don’t think it will happen and I don’t think you think it will either.”
okay. Good fights.

“Whether you try to or not you do seem to run things. People look to you for guidance. You may not want to acknowledge this but you’re the face of this alliance.

All players and by extension guilds have the right to move to whatever server they want but I think when you have an alliance like this you have a lot of power and when you have that kind of power people will hold you to a higher ethical standard. I think that right now you’re failing to live up that ethical standard and that’s why you’re being “villainized.” But I guess that’s not an issue for you if no one has the power to really stop you."

I am a leader of many things and I have many friends. My alliance doesn’t depict that. Neither does my guild. I acknowledge that I’m the loudest mouth and one of many faces of the alliance. Because each guild and leader has different opinions yet we still remain friends. We also don’t always play on the same server.

I think my ethics are fine. I think you are accusing me of a lot without knowing my side or the full story however. But I always try to improve myself.

DeWolfe.2174:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

You really should be used to it by now…….

You can insult me all you want. But it’s not going to get you very far.

Xenesis.6389:

Cephas.4293:

And now we aren’t bored, what we did worked better than expected. We have a force actively pushing against us and the fighting is amazing. We are having more fun in the game than we have in a long long time.

And all it took was splitting a server community to achieve it!

TC lost 4 guilds to my knowledge, yet players and guilds came back to the game not just on TC but everywhere. TC gained 5 guilds from my alliance. The rest of the guilds TC gained came before and after us by themselves. The biggest of those moves was actually KILL/Kazo members from Jade Quarry.

Xenesis.6389:

I’m sure the Empire’s master plan was to just stack TC, dominate T2, and bring them back up to T1 while booting JQ or BG. That was the “supposed plan” in the first place, get a rotation of servers for T1/2, and they thought they were big enough and good enough to do that for servers.

Last time the Empire did this YB went along for the ride for the most part, and SoS and FA brought out their white handkerchiefs and waved goodbye to YB until they got their kittens out of T2. They rode them to the top of T1 and now didn’t have much to do but fall back on the old plan. TC looked like they were going to get a good deal out of the merge plan, because T8 into T1 servers isn’t going to provide much.

Instead this time the rebel alliance has sprung up to try and stop the dominance in T2 while it’s early. Only problem with that is, either way the Empire and the Emperor are laughing their kittens off because they are getting action anyways and it’s better for them to have opposition willing to come after them. They’re probably getting enough fun out of this that they wouldn’t need to worry about pushing TC up.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

DB can’t screw our plans of entering Tier 1, if we really don’t have solid plans to begin with. Considering everyone on TC is happy to constantly fighting DB in Tier 2 anyway. If our alliance screws up tiers by playing in them, then keeping us in Tier 2 is counter productive anyway.

Furthermore Jade Quarry is dying, and they’re falling down quicker than anyone is pushing up. Both DB and TC will have near equal chances to go between both tiers if both server stay neck and neck. DB’s whole idea or belief as to why my alliance and myself is down in Tier 2 once again, is very misguided and wrong.

This move was in preparation for us to play together on a server we wanted to be on. To wait for Arena Net to change WvW. The goal to push to tier 1 is a progressive easy goal that’s just there to give us motivation to play harder and have fun while doing it. It was a goal that was already being talked about on Tarnished Coast and one that we liked to reinvigorate our interest.

The rebellion or counter alliance aims at making our game experience not fun or enjoyable and they aim at stopping our plans. However, our plans are finalized and you’re giving us the time of our lives.

We don’t mind if we are villainized, it seemingly gives communities goals and a greater will to fight. That’s all we can ask for from our counter parts and that’s what you’ve provided us with. A means of breaking up the staleness and giving us a reason to fight hard once again.

I do not try, to “run” servers or have a monopoly over a tier(s). The only thing I do, is look out for my guild and my friends at this time. OnS’s movement was based off OnS’s health and is different than the goals of the alliance. Each guild within the Mad Court has the right to do what’s best for their own guilds.

I’m just going to say i agree with a good chunk of what Fin is saying and I just want to leave this here and ask what was Arena Net thinking when they added this to WvW:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Centaur_Banner

there IS an overhaul. That Reddit link however is old. It probably changed since then. So the information is close but not really all correct.

This is interesting and a great idea. However, ArenaNet isn’t going to do anything with this because they’ve already started with their plans to overhaul the entire system. This has been 1 year in the works and for them to further rehash their system again would take them a year +. We simply don’t have that time.

If anything they can nitpick ideas from this to make their system better. But the idea of Globs and a glob having 3 borderlands is for sure a good idea but one that’s greatly out of scope for what they already have in store for us.

Pretty sure its not false. But the information could be outdated. Meaning that it has changed since. However, Arena Net leaked this information MONTHS ago. I heard about it even before HoT released by reliable sources. I wasn’t the only one. They even hinted at the alliance system many times.

I’ve been looking for this rune. It seems it’s a craft-able recipe just like the other class runes which require a lodestone. Does anyone have any information on it?

I 100% agree to this. This is what the community has asked for and wanted since before this game came out. This is what the the community will continue to ask for until this happens.

Dayra.7405:

Otokomae.9356:

Dayra.7405:

Otokomae.9356:

Omg, we’ve found the magic solution! …

Obviously, you are still not bored to dead/transfer. Just stay it will happen rather sooner than later.

Don’t forget: you are trapped in T1 outside season and when JQ and TC loose fun fighting you and transfer away, you will be alone in T1 till next season.

Actually, Tier 1 has been exactly like it is now for at least 1 year at this point…

Don’t know. I play EU and I remember the EU-T1 collapse with over 2 month trapped servers 1.5 years ago
(https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/matchups/Vizunah-Desolation-Seafarer-2-03-T1-EU if you don’t)

Till season NA-T1 seemed balanced, I don’t know if it still is, e.g. BG only has a stronger league push than JQ and TC, that will go away after season, but it only needs a few week of imbalance without hope of change (and you are all 3 full, no one will get more reinforcements) for a collapse.

They call BG Hibergate because during off seasonal times we don’t show the same numbers or organization. As server leader I can tell you we do this on purpose because it takes many hours to cover our coverage gaps and prepare for a Season tournament.

Nightingale.8364:

@ Mal. Thank you for your sweet reply. I was touched and i almost had a tear in my eye.

As you have admitted, certain servers and you yourself have encouraged guilds to transfer by offering to pay for transfers or even paying them extra gold once they had moved. This isn’t new, another example of this would be the sudden arrival of ZD’s onto a T1 NA server for season 1 and then their sudden departure as soon as season had finished.

Don’t get me wrong..but i find that the idea that all these guilds are joining one server because they want to GVG to be rather far fetched. If they want to GVG don’t they need to be on different servers to fight each other? Oh, no silly me…thats your idea, its to create a GVG format that will allow guilds on the same server to fight against each other, so having them all stacked on one server won’t matter (unless of course you didn’t want to totally kill wvw, but that would just be a small problem and who cares anyways, it would make winning season 4 even easier).

Thats Great for GVG’s…but what about WVW? This thread is about WvW. I will try to be sweet about it. Could you please create another topic for GVG’s? It is obvious that your Idea for GVG is motivated soley by the desire to keep all the guilds currently on your server, you are not thinking about WvW as a format.

As you stated yourself, the transfer mechanics have been used and abused (wait T1 servers are “full” so you can’t transfer…..). My point is that it is the players themselves that have created this situation. The urge to “win at all costs” is extrememly short sighted and verges on paranoia when we see just how far people are willing to go (spies, siege trolls etc etc.).

We cannot expect Anet to come along and clean up the mess that we have made without first trying to clean up our act. If the players don’t do this then any “fixes” that Anet may provide with eventually be “used and abused” in the same manner.

Thanks for your reply Mal, at least you were honest enough to come on official forums to reply. Oh, and please remember, not one of the “server” leaders that you spoke to actually believes anything you say concerning balancing in T1 NA. You can write all you want but your actions past and present speak far louder than any words.

Correction, this thread is about Imbalance which could be solved by mega server game types like GvG. Aslo, I’m not sure who you are but if my actions speak louder than my words then they should believe me because my actions are more positive then my trolling on the forums. Since I have no idea who you are or what server you’re from. I’ll leave it to that. I talk with a good bit of these server leaders every week so theres that too.

Dayra.7405:

Blaeys.3102:

The hard truth is the population imbalance is, mostly, a player created problem. Constant bandwagoning and server stack during the course of two years (and this has been an issue since the game’s launch) have led to us to the situation we are in.

The rules of the game so far enforce it:
- You win if you are more
- You get more season-rewards if you win
- You dominate EotM if you are more, instead of sitting in queue

And in game as well:
- You maximize anyones rewards, if anyone runs around in a big blob and PvDs

People optimize their behavior according to the rules.

The rules need to be changed, if the result is bad, not the people blamed to behave optimal.

This ^

Blaeys.3102:

The hard truth is the population imbalance is, mostly, a player created problem. Constant bandwagoning and server stacking during the course of two years (and this has been an issue since the game’s launch) have led to us to the situation we are in. Any solution that relies on players to move on their own (even with incentives or punishments) will most likely fail – players will still look for the path of least resistance that gives them the easiest possible experience on the most populated servers. There isnt an incentive big enough to stop that. This would apply to caps as well – you would still see players glomming into the smallest group of servers possible – to the detriment of all others.

ArenaNet needs a solution that will adapt with the game population, much the way the megaserver does in PVE, without breaking apart the communities that have formed during the past two years (or, in the case of the bandwagonning servers, that have been cobbled together more recently).

This is why I am so in favor of a server alliance system that groups servers together into battlegroups. It really offers the only solution, that ive seen or can think of, that allows servers to stay intact while ensuring matches aren’t as lopsided – or that the winning server isnt predetermined solely by the number of players they have.

Population is a player created problem based off mechanics designed by ArenaNet that we use and abuse. You can’t leave it up to the players to invoke a change that effects thousands of players but you can provide a system in which they can utilize and not manipulate.

There are several solutions to these issues whether it be GvG’s being vastly supported with mega servers or Server Alliances. As this game suffers from attrition the problem will continually get worse untill ArenaNet and not the players do something about it.

The same way they chose to make free server transfers before Season 1 and the same way they developed a WvW and server capacity limit. These mechanics are then used by the communities for the greater good or worse of the state of the game.

Nightingale.8364:

I really had to laugh when i saw that certain “server leaders” had posted on these forums with an apparantly logical explanation for the population imbalance that we see today in wvw.

It’s about time some of these leaders stopped blaming anet and admitted that they themselves are part of the problem. All that “chest thumping” and pushing “for the win”, inviting guilds, paying for guilds to transfer has in the end killed wvw as a competitive environment. Just read in these forums what one “server leader” really thinks and we can understand how polluted the atmosphere has really become because of this kind of leadership.

http://www.gw2wvw.net/topic/bgtcsos-s3-week3

This is an example of one thread. I would advise ANET to be very careful taking any advice from any server leaders who are capable of writing this kind of toxic material. These are in fact the kind of people who are killing the game.

The current state of WVW and population imbalance is the fault of the players themselves. To watch T2 NA guilds transfer to T1 servers just before season 3 started really made one realise that season 3 was dead. Everyone knew before it even started who would win…

As to what to do about it……sry but nothing in the posts above posts will change anything. Its for the players themselves to start to act in a more responsible manner..server leaders that means you.

I’ll try and make this as sweet as possible to keep this thread on point. If ArenaNet looked at my post history they’d identify that I indeed work with said guilds and I do indeed help them move. I do not try to overstack BG or any other server. I’m just a person and I try my best. I delivered quite a bit of transparency and insight on BGs community whether you view this as toxic or un leader worthy that’s you take. You can talk to any of your server leaders that I’ve spoken to and they should or will indeed tell you that while I have a mouth on me I have tried to direct guilds in a manner that would be the least detrimental to the state of T1. At the moment the mass amount of guilds and players that are moving to T1 don’t have a great care for PPT instead they care about GvG and even number skirmish fighting. Because they do’t care about PPT they don’t care about balancing out a Tier for Coverage. Talk to Shini, Talk to Dalloway, talk to Time, talk to Jeddbacca, talk to Morb, talk to Missy, talk to Greenarrow. I’ve talked to them all.

Coming off harsh on the public forums has stirred many debates and its enabled me to know more and do more for the community. Sorry for the feathers I rustled in my way but I will not stop. Prepare for my next big wall of text that I will be posting here, on GW2wvw.net and sending directly to all the server leaders i know and ArenaNet themselves.

GvG has to do with Imbalance in Tier 1 and Tier 2 because of the implosion of the GvG scene after the community held T2 GvG tournament. Now, all the GvG guilds are looking for new homes on Tier 1 servers and their players. Hence the Tier 1 imbalance and the reasons why JQ, BG and TC are full status with 50+ GW2 players still trying to move over.

Supporting GvGs would stabilize communities not willing to take part in the coverage Wars. by giving rebirth to a new game meta that is currently struggling because of lack of support.

That’s fine I figured as much.

I would like a proper response from ArenaNet. I feel like I will not get one.

GvG. Support it. See your player base come back from the dead. Incorporate Mega Servers in a GvG sense. Allow guilds from other Tiers to fight your Tier 15v15 20v20(NOT SPVP).

DO away with Season Tournaments everyone knows who will win before they even happen. Pointless.

The population imbalance is coming from WvW becoming very stale.

STOP with this living story crap and focus on things that will keep your player base playing consistently.

EoTM was a terrible idea. You guys put so much effort in that map. It’s literally insanity because it serves very little purpose. Overflow map? what queues? More like Karma Train map.

Obsidian Sanctum was a band aid to pad a niche community of WvW outlaws that broke the PPT meta. Now it’s time to lift the band aid and support what the community is dying for.

Guild Wars 1 was so successful because of the varying types of PvP. GvG, Heroes Ascent, Team PvP, Random Arenas, Alliance Battles. The variety created balance and not over population. There weren’t even servers just instances in that game yet the vast amount of PvPers where spread and had the ability to do different things without creating their own game type that ArenaNet didn’t support.

Now everyone is suffering. The lower tiers sub Tier gets it the worse because when there is attrition it effects the lesser populations greater than Tier 1. Everyone now wants to move to Tier 1 where the fights are happening and the GvG scene is still trying to kick off. BG, TC and JQ are perma full with Tier 2 collapsing this will only get worse. Increase server capacity will help stabilize Tier 1 while further draining the life of the lower Tiers because it’s like the great depression. These lower Tier servers still have the will to compete in a different meta other than PPT which is decided by the server with the most Coverage and Overtime. Because of this, it’s pointless to even have a tournament. Before and after every Season you will notice a huge shift in player base which causes guilds to implode, servers to die, and the attrition rate greatly increases.

BTW, ArenaNet I’m server leader of Blackgate. I deal with the community greatly on all Tier 1 servers and even Tier 2 servers. Before Season 3, Tier 2 collapsed slightly and is still collapsing because the GvG scene imploded. Now, all the Tier 2 guilds are starting to look for a new home in Tier 1 because their guilds are dying the fights are becoming stale and YOU ARE NOT SUPPORTING WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS again this is yet another band aid invoked by the community itself. This will never be sustainable till ArenaNet helps us.

The game needs variety even SPvP is the same game mode with a new gimmick….

Updated the post we’ve have changes in the GvG speakers List. Teamspeak to come soon.

Tier 1 GvG Workshop

Date: August 2nd – 4pm EST
Hosted in [OnS] Onslaught Teamspeak
Goal: For the health of Guild Wars 2 WvW community – Introduce Tier 1 community to the Open Field Fights/GvG Playstyle
Organizers: [OnS] Haru, [OnS] Malevolent Omen

Introduction
The Tier 1 Guild vs. Guild Initiative is a joint effort of the GvG community to introduce the open field fights playstyle to the North American Tier 1 community. It is our firm belief that a fighting playstyle will benefit Tier 1 greatly as it leads to healthy and fair competition that is based on player PvP skill and group synergy.

However, this does not have to be at the cost of different playstyles. The goal of this Initiative is to promote a mutual understanding between the Tier 1 community guilds that playing for fights and playing for server rating are not mutually exclusive; when server communities come together with the understanding that each server needs to maintain a certain rating in a tier, we will be able to focus less on pushing hard for PPT and more towards fun and competitive fights.

While GvG’s are intimidating at first, it is our hope that the workshops hosted by this Initiative will gradually introduce all guilds in Tier 1 to the open field fights playstyle and allow the scene to flourish in this tier.

What will happen during the workshop?

The purpose of the workshop is to give a direct line of communication to a wealth of resources regarding open field fighting and GvGs for the Guild Wars 2 WvW community. The drivers that have been selected to sit on the panel represent some of the top core drivers of the GvG community; these drivers have exceeded expectations in this playstyle and have revolutionized this game that we love playing. During the workshop, the panel will be asked a series of questions designed to highlight key factors in the GvG scene, whether it be driving, tactics, meta, or other salient aspects of GvG success. The panel will be able to discuss these different topics in depth with the hope that those listening will be able to pick up key strategies to bring back to their own guilds. After that, participants will have a chance to ask their own questions. Participants in the workshop will sit in a Teamspeak channel where permissions to speak will be granted by our moderators in order to maintain order during this workshop; to speak or ask a question, you must indicate it in the Teamspeak chat box and a moderator will put you in queue.

GvG Speaker Panel
[Agg] Jericho
[ARK] Diviniya
[EP] Odinzu
[HB] Gismor
[NS] Indevar
[RG] Intigo
[TE] James

Onslaught North American Recruitment

Guardians – OPEN
Warrior – CLOSED
Elementalist – OPEN
Necromancer – OPEN
Mesmer – OPEN
Thief – OPEN
Engineer – OPEN
Ranger – CLOSED

Effective gamers are quick thinkers, and make sensible decisions with precise reaction time and accuracy. In Onslaught, we attest to do just that. We have a community of dedicated players who have gamed with each other for years. Only players of great quality find themselves entwined in our ranks. In other words, the cliché, Quality over Quantity would be a sound explanation of our values regarding our roster. Onslaught is not for everyone. If you cannot listen, learn, or excel in a competitive environment, Onslaught most certainly is not for you.

However, we look forward to working with those who may not be on our skill level. As long as the persons interested are willing to work hard, and take constructive criticism, we do not mind helping them. We are loyal to each other and that will never change. We also consist of mature players and if you are offended easily by derogatory or profane language you might want to reconsider your interest in Onslaught.

Onslaught is a member of the Axis of Insurrection Alliance, which has been an active alliance since July 2012. [Zen] The Way Of The Master and [DR] Dragonriders have been long lasting guilds in this alliance alongside us.

“WvW content and all its glory is what most of our members focus on. However, we plan to take part in all aspects of the games we play in order to enhance our capability across the board, but WvW is our main focus. Whether that means, PPT or open-field play.

It’s important to understand that Onslaught is a hybrid guild. Meaning, we can play like a fighter guild or we can play PPT and map politics. Our play style greatly depends on a number of key factors: The commander or driver, the week, and our server mates. We like to keep it fresh and entertaining to prevent burnout.”


Onslaught’s home is Blackgate. We are not looking to move.


REPRESENTING POLICY:

Onslaught is not 100% rep for many reasons:

We feel as though, we do not cover PvE well within the guild and we understand that it’s a core feature of the game. For this reason we allow our members to represent guilds in which they can do things like Guild Missions.

Onslaught has a lot of international players from across the world that play many time zones other than North America. Because of this, some members might be a part of an Oceanic or South East Asian guild on Blackgate.

Even though we are not 100% rep, we have mandatory raids, meetings, and training sessions. This means if you are online you must represent and attend.

Bank space.

REQUIREMENTS:

Must be willing to change spec to fit guild synergy composition.
Must be willing to learn and improve.
Must have working microphone and the ability to call or shout cool-downs, blast fields, and combat actions.
Must be consistently active during North American Prime Time.
Must be able to take constructive criticism.

LEADERSHIP:

Leaders
Malevolent Omen – MaLeVoLenT.8129
Kratos Reborn – Funkmachine.9815
Reyana – Reyana.6479

Class Leaders
Guardian - Malevolent Omen
Warrior - Kratos Reborn
Necromancer – Alissa Maleverine – MokoToko.6980
Elementalist – Carpal Tunnel – keelhaul.8039
Pick Team – Not Yet Filled

Main Commanders
-Malevolent Omen
-Haru W – Mirsa.1628
-Micheal – pot.6805

CONTACT US:

Right now, our Website is under construction and it will be up soon. If you want to join Onslaught you MUST contact one of the leaders via:
www.gw2blackgate.com, www.axis-insurrection.com, www.guildwars2.com

Malevolent Omen
Forum Name: MaLeVoLenT
Email: malevolent@creative-onslaught.com
Account ID: MaLeVoLenT.8129

Reyana
Forum Name: Reyana
Email: baby_reya@yahoo.com
Account ID: Reyana.6479

Kratos Reborn
Forum Name: Funkmachine
Email: N/A
Account ID: Funkmachine.9815

ONSLAUGHT IS A MEMBER OF THE
- AXIS OF INSURRECTION ALLIANCE -

Delta.2093:

Wraith.9426:

The whole idea is that people who either don’t play gw2 yet or who don’t play WvW will see these and want to get involved.

Cheesy vids like the one in OP, won’t attract anyone but boasting, bully type people (and you already have a quite large “collection” of those). These ostentatious presentations are the expression of that part of BG which drives others in 2v1, or Xv1 against your server. Too bad for those on BG who are both modest and skillful, old time RvR players, who deserve to be honored even by their enemies, and who provide good fights in tier 1 – because they are worthy enemies. But we all need time to “grow up” it seems, and understand that WvW is more like a team sport, where real friends are in rival teams, and fight each other with dedication and honor – and not a war of hatred & bigotry.
There are many players on BG (and on all servers) who deserve our respect, true WvW players, who are really unbroken and it’s a great honor to meet them in battle. They don’t need to make boasting vids, making noise is for those who lack substance. But if you really want to promote WvW gameplay, please, show a bit more decency. We all role-play a bit, but there is a line which should not be crossed (called… sanity).

I guess there’s 3k+ boasting types that the video has attracted. Must be all BG. There is no dishonor in this video I’m sorry you feel that way. If you must 2v1 us for simply making a video I feel as though your small minded and you’re a part of the problem in Tier 1. Continue on though.

Wraith.9426:

morrolan.9608:

Well the part about it not being honourable kind of offset the congratulations. I dunno why you BG players after what happened with your S1 video do not get that it comes across to others as chest thumping.

We don’t care. It’s a game, we’re trying to have fun. You guys all take this so seriously, you need to lighten up and have some fun. Make your own videos and thump your chests all you want. The whole idea is that people who either don’t play gw2 yet or who don’t play WvW will see these and want to get involved. Instead, you guys would have us quietly sit here and play the game without giving it any kind of publicity until it eventually dies. We’re not only trying to hype up our own server, we’re trying to hype up your servers and people who don’t play WvW. If you guys can’t see that through your blind hatred for a group of people who’s characters happen to be stored on a different piece of hardware than yours, then you really need to take a step back and realize that this is just a game, and it’s meant to be fun. The 2v1 in general and all the vitriol we get on these forums is really ridiculous considering.

You’re talking to someone who hates BG as all his post bash BG. His guild is probably to center of organizing the 2v1 against us for feelings of ill will. You’re not going to get through to him I wouldn’t even try.

makken.1754:

Jedbacca.6297:

I present to you….the closest thing to a victory video we can come up with from SF…with…Love??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzkh6ToH9XA

rofl.

Come on Jed. Do we really need to boast about our superior pole jumping skills? This is going to get us 2v1’d next season. Don’t be surprised when you see BG and TC jumping on the same pole in season 3!

Yeah, this might hinder our alliance and stop AoI from moving to JQ. This self boasting is wrong! 2v1 active!

:) funny video !

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

Hi. Poopin again.

Dude you need to get that checked.

Kreen.3925:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

It had nothing to do with rubbing it in the faces of JQ and TC. Hell they can make a video and rub it in our faces and we encourage them to do so.

This quote should just stand there as a monument…….

Does this mean we get to see a JQ video! Victors of S2?!

gebrechen.5643:

Reslinal.2359:

The video is more about server pride and a thank you to our BG members who fight to the last. I would like to see a video by JQ to celebrate its victory as well (if you have the organization to make one:)), things you do for server pride is what keeps GW2 interesting to me.

I don’t think you will see anything like that from us.
We are more the “work is done, f.. that kitten, have another beer and enjoy your time” – kind of server.
But I think someone from Hollywood already made a video about JQ. I think it’s called “fear and loathing in eb keep” or.. was it “clockwork jade”?
I don’t remember exactly..

Can you link me

Ayrilana.1396:

I said blind arrogance as in so arrogant that you cannot see how arrogant you are. You’re posting a video about server pride on these forums. You started out the video with sound clips including one about capping TC’s garrison. You have text across the screen about how outmatched you were but endured. You also posted this on the forums rather than BG’s own forums.

I mean no disrespect when I call out this thread for it. I’m just pointing out what others, including myself, see when they view this threads and others like it. If JQ or TC made a thread that featured footage of BG, I’m sure many people would take it as gloating.

It depends I guess how it was done. I see your points and I understand. However, you need to see ours. Our community works hard at being united and we take a lot of pride in the way we do things like these videos. We like to promote them and share them as it was a server wide effort. I don’t think anyone from BG should be upset at JQ or TC if they chose to make one of their own depicting their side of Season 2. He’ll BG encourages it.

Ayrilana.1396:

Reslinal.2359:

Ayrilana.1396:

Reslinal.2359:

Vol.7601:

I for one cannot wait for the inevitable 2v1 in Season 3.

This is what happens with arrogance, BG

The video is more about server pride and a thank you to our BG members who fight to the last. I would like to see a video by JQ to celebrate its victory as well (if you have the organization to make one:)), things you do for server pride is what keeps GW2 interesting to me.

BG has its own forums. Why not post it there rather than on here?

I think because a lot of militias on BG don’t read/join server forum:)

Also some of us think of this as a way to tell JQ/TC if they think their 2v1 will stop us from showing server pride they are wrong:)

Having server pride is one thing but being so arrogant to irritate and annoy everyone else will only make things worse. This thread was created to troll JQ/TC and display blind arrogance.

This thread was created because so many people asked me to show off the hard work BG put into this video. It had nothing to do with rubbing it in the faces of JQ and TC. Hell they can make a video and rub it in our faces and we encourage them to do so. You should expect a video from BG every single Season Win or lose.

bob.8632:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

bob.8632:

To offset, please post hours of whine footage from your TS about the 2v1.

The whine from our TS still doesn’t compete with the whine that BG still gets from things that happened BEFORE S1. This Whine from our enemies still goes on today and it fuels things like the 2v1.

Yeah but the ratio is like 3:1 for Enemy Whine vs BG 2v1 Whine….Seriously one day almost every other post on the front page was about 2v1’s coming from a BGer.

a good bit of those post were troll post and people not from BG. Even still this all started with massive tears from our enemies because apparently BG is the only one that tried to stack for Tier 1 S1. These same kitten guilds/players and communities held such hatred for BG, a community in which they didn’t even understand. So here we are today, BG the most hated server in the entire game based off what has happened a long time ago. We take the blame for everything even though JQ for instance has been doing this way longer than BG even before BG was indeed in Tier 1. This is alll ok though! BG is doing well! Don’t worry guys! Let the hate flow through you! We will still stand and fight.

You guys should see what some of these server leaders from TC and JQs reasoning’s were behind the smear campaign .The more you guys talk about us, smear our name the harder we’ll promote ourselves, The stronger we get, the more united we are. You guys hate it and we feed off your hate. Thank you!

Kigera.9584:

BG has a bad problem with wanting to be the center of attention all the time. Even when no one is talking about them, they have to create scenarios for people to talk about them. If you want to create a thread to give yourselves a pat on the back, why would this be on the official forums instead of your own forums?

And Mal, please post videos of the TS conversations. The ZDs drama has far been surpassed by the QQ BG has dished out this season. It’s not even comparable.

Nope it hasnt.

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

A lot of kitten people in this thread. I’m sorry.

You posted a glory video of your server on the official forums. What did you honestly expect. Should’ve just left it on your servers front page and be done with it.

Also, during the matchup with JQ/TC (I think week 3), at which point did you (the server) collectively go OH kitten. I kinda wanna see some reaction videos of this, like teamspeak/map chat logs/etc.

The matchup week 8 or whatever also interests me. Same reason, wanna see/hear the collective dispair when the mighty BG broke and gave up (see what I did there).

Both of those things I would like to see in video format on these forums.

SO kitten wipe those tears. It’s ok.

No tears. Only Dreams.

So which one of the drama filled servers are you from?

Hey hey now, let’s not get kitten. Remember, fiber, but I see you edited that out.
If you HAVE to know, I’ll give you some hints. I’ll be making these comments based on our collective server mentality.

We give zero kittens.

TC

Nooooooooope.
I would like to add that they cared enough to go along with a 2v1. Don’t make stupid choices, your obviously better than this.

What choice did I make?

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

A lot of kitten people in this thread. I’m sorry.

You posted a glory video of your server on the official forums. What did you honestly expect. Should’ve just left it on your servers front page and be done with it.

Also, during the matchup with JQ/TC (I think week 3), at which point did you (the server) collectively go OH kitten. I kinda wanna see some reaction videos of this, like teamspeak/map chat logs/etc.

The matchup week 8 or whatever also interests me. Same reason, wanna see/hear the collective dispair when the mighty BG broke and gave up (see what I did there).

Both of those things I would like to see in video format on these forums.

SO kitten wipe those tears. It’s ok.

No tears. Only Dreams.

So which one of the drama filled servers are you from?

Hey hey now, let’s not get kitten. Remember, fiber, but I see you edited that out.
If you HAVE to know, I’ll give you some hints. I’ll be making these comments based on our collective server mentality.

We give zero kittens.

TC

Nooooooooope.

Welp I tried. Carry on little one.

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

A lot of kitten people in this thread. I’m sorry.

You posted a glory video of your server on the official forums. What did you honestly expect. Should’ve just left it on your servers front page and be done with it.

Also, during the matchup with JQ/TC (I think week 3), at which point did you (the server) collectively go OH kitten. I kinda wanna see some reaction videos of this, like teamspeak/map chat logs/etc.

The matchup week 8 or whatever also interests me. Same reason, wanna see/hear the collective dispair when the mighty BG broke and gave up (see what I did there).

Both of those things I would like to see in video format on these forums.

SO kitten wipe those tears. It’s ok.

No tears. Only Dreams.

So which one of the drama filled servers are you from?

Hey hey now, let’s not get kitten. Remember, fiber, but I see you edited that out.
If you HAVE to know, I’ll give you some hints. I’ll be making these comments based on our collective server mentality.

We give zero kittens.

TC

bob.8632:

To offset, please post hours of whine footage from your TS about the 2v1.

The whine from our TS still doesn’t compete with the whine that BG still gets from things that happened BEFORE S1. This Whine from our enemies still goes on today and it fuels things like the 2v1.

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

A lot of kitten people in this thread. I’m sorry.

You posted a glory video of your server on the official forums. What did you honestly expect. Should’ve just left it on your servers front page and be done with it.

Also, during the matchup with JQ/TC (I think week 3), at which point did you (the server) collectively go OH kitten. I kinda wanna see some reaction videos of this, like teamspeak/map chat logs/etc.

The matchup week 8 or whatever also interests me. Same reason, wanna see/hear the collective dispair when the mighty BG broke and gave up (see what I did there).

Both of those things I would like to see in video format on these forums.

SO kitten wipe those tears. It’s ok.

No tears. Only Dreams.

So which one of the drama filled servers are you from?

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

A lot of kitten people in this thread. I’m sorry.

You posted a glory video of your server on the official forums. What did you honestly expect. Should’ve just left it on your servers front page and be done with it.

Also, during the matchup with JQ/TC (I think week 3), at which point did you (the server) collectively go OH kitten. I kinda wanna see some reaction videos of this, like teamspeak/map chat logs/etc.

The matchup week 8 or whatever also interests me. Same reason, wanna see/hear the collective dispair when the mighty BG broke and gave up (see what I did there).

Both of those things I would like to see in video format on these forums.

SO kitten wipe those tears. It’s ok.