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There’s hundreds of players who have fallen off just waiting to come back and say shut up and take my money.
I really wish they would understand this… I’ve dumped a lot of money in other games… not necessarily proud of it, but there are tons of people out there with disposable income that they can bring back if they just fix some of the issues that have already been outlined here and thus.. raise profits.
yeah, unfortunately they think living story 3, desert borderlands and siege hammers are the answer.
GvG is pretty dead anyway. There’s maybe like 5 guilds that still scrim. I never understood how Anet has taken something with such potential in WvW/ GvG, with possibly the best combat system that GW2 has and totally flushed it down the toilet. WvW is what sold me on playing this game as I’m sure it did for many others. I dont know if it’s lack of connection with the playerbase or just pure ego causing them to ignore and do whatever they want. At this point it seems as if they are purposely trying to kill off WvW so they don’t have to deal with it anymore. Let’s bring back the super popular Desert BLs the same week Legion comes out! Great idea!! The matchup balancing has been whack since forever, megaservering pve has made guild recruiting a pain, eliminating a lot of smaller guilds. and worst of all; the skill balancing isnt separated between pve, pvp and wvw so you get horrible metas like pirateship or like the one we have right now with infinite boons and sustain. oh and lets add more siege with canons and repair hammers instead of fixing bigger issues!!
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They need to relink and do a better job of balancing. Anet has all the statistics of coverage, population, wvw participation. I’m sure they can find a formula to better balance the server linkings. They also need to close T1 servers (which they are now). Make it harder for guilds to stack tiers & servers. But really it’s on us. We can complain about dead tiers and blame anet but really it’s because we stack the top servers and tiers. If guilds were more willing to spread out between tiers and servers we wouldnt have these issues. Guilds need to stop bandwagoning to servers like DB or TC or Mag. Go somewhere that needs guilds and help rebuild some of these servers. People complain about lack of fights, but then all stack into the same server. Anet might as well make it 2 tiers at this point or at least combine T3 & T4 and make it 3 tiers
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I saw an Anet employee holding a weapon the other day. The sight of it made me feel violated. I simply cannot believe that they are allowed to participate in combat on the same level as everyone else! Something must be done!
RIOT!!
they dont have any advantage, i was in a guild with a dev. they have to upgrade and build guild siege like any other guild. it’s merely a normal guild but they get the little anet logo. all the siege they have is out of their own pockets. and no their guild catas dont do more damage
and people wonder why anet doesnt respond to these threads. lol
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The problem is plain and simple. Favoritism. If you can’t see that a company who administrates the game should not play favorites you don’t understand what favoritism is.
ANeT, as stated is an admin guild. They have special privileges that normal player guilds don’t. They may have the same effect as a normal guild but it tells the other servers that ANeT favors the other server.
I come from a military background where I could not show favoritism due to my position. To do so would tell the other lower ranking people that I will chose someone over them. This is very similar. The ANeT devs represent the company. This means that if the claim an objective for a particular server they have chosen that server above the other servers. i.e. Favoritism. And unprofessional in the business world.
Good lord. This is anything but favoritism. A player who happens to work for ANet came across the keep and saw that it wasn’t claimed yet, so he claimed it to help his/her world out. What the hell is the problem here? Its no different, literally no different, than if any other guild had claimed that keep.
Its not favoritism. And there is literally nothing you can say that will make it favoritism because it just isn’t.
Um, your argument makes no sense. You offer no proof or logical reasoning as to why it can’t be considered favoritism. And has been stated by someone who was there, the ANeT Dev was with them when they took it. He just didn’t wander in and see an unclaimed keep.
As Thorfinir and one other did point out “conflict of interest” might be a better term for it. At least their posts were logical. I for one just want an official stance by ANeT. Once an official policy is established, as any good business always does, I will live with it.
you offer no logical reasoning that it is favoritism. anet guild claiming is the same as any other guild claiming. they dont have super buffs or anything. he just so happens to be playing on the server you are facing.
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you guys realize anet claiming something gives the server no advantage over any other guild claiming the keep other than a little logo. it’s amazing how much this bothers people. they arent hacking into keeps and capping it. you should be happy they are in wvw, maybe they will fix this broken meta.
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Well we all know what Yaks Bend is gonna vote. Anet just tries so hard to ruin WvW.
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Good guild, nice people. check em out
It is possible just run the kittened boonshare sustain comp, doesnt take much skill. the problem is everyone else is running it. so good luck fighting the guild groups that run 30 running that. Good commander and good players help too.
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Well ArenaNet would tell you yes, because they want the transfer gem $$, but they dont read this forum so they wont even answer.
Honestly it’s hard to say because you can bring a guild to your server and that guild leaves game or dies off after a month. Especially with Blade n Soul out and Black Desert coming out in a few months.
WvW is in serious trouble, it’s at the point where we are trying to get guilds to come to T1 so we have people to fight or that raiding in EoTM is more fun than actual wvw.
I still think megaserver wvw and bringing back the old Bls would be a quick/ temporary fix until they do the overhaul (if it ever happens).
Amazing how they are so willing to squander something with great potential, you have a game with one of, if not the best combat but wont use that to their advantage but would rather let it die. And have absolutely no sense of urgency to fix it. But after watching that video of the interview where the CEO and Collin totally shot down a wvw question and seemed annoyed that anything about wvw was even asked, i guess it’s not that surprising.
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Still no red post after 13 pages of posts?
It’s nice to see anet showing the same commitment to WvW as they did before HoT release, even though they said they would prioritise WvW are HoT release.
They’ve prioritized WvW but by destroying WvW and turning the game into pve.
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Perhaps the best video ever in Hills featuring one of the best guilds NA…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaWCTWRExS0
what’s the point? we can have 500 forum specialists but in the end it’s up to anet to fix the gamemode. im sure archon is doing his best, but honestly it’s just a title anet gave someone to make it seem like they care.
Telling lower tier servers that “WvW would be fun if you were better at recruiting” isn’t the solution to the problems found in the current system.
i dont think people are telling them to recruit better. the way the ppt system is designed, it will always encourage server stacking thus creating an inbalance of populations, and unless your server gets bandwagoned it’s very hard to overcome it. megaservers would prevent server stacking as you would possibly get paired with a different server every week, creating different matchups, and hopefully balanced ones. we are already able to track coverage of all the servers, anet for sure has accurate numbers of each server, im sure they could make an algorithm to create balanced matchups each week. but it’s all in anet’s hands at this point
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This is really a begging plea at this point. I look at the dev tracker every day and see them constantly responding to the most random of crap. Then I head over to the WvW section, one of the things that separates guild wars from a lot of other MMOs, and I see maybe one post they’ve replied to since the start of HoT….
Feel free to list other WvW issues in this thread, but a big one for me at least, I literally have run out of badges just because I spend the proof of heroics I get from rank up chests. Now I’m just getting more and more of these and they are pretty much useless at this point…
Please A Net, just respond to a few of the posts so we know you are even reading them.
they wont. it’s pointless
also how have you run out of badges I probably have over 15k
The frenzy that was WvW was fun.
Why? Because of map calls.
Because of banter about WvW in Lion’s Arch when the megaserver didn’t exist.
Because of the spies who taunted us in Lion’s Arch before the megaserver
Pugs. That’s how Ft. Aspenwood win that first season in Silver.
Every one of us who knew the maps, who knew the drill, would make map calls on every single map, not just Lion’s Arch, and just as any loyal people will, they rallied to the defense of their server.
Hard fought against the likes of Yak’s Bend and Stormbluff Isle as well as others, the hot and heavy fighting became a passion for many players who saw, not just a “reward” at the end of the season, but also the growth of a community of real players who could and would, for better or worse, get to know one another on the way to a victory or a loss at the end of the season.
Ft. Aspenwood won. But after it won, it fell apart, hard.
Many of us, disenchanted with leaders leaving, guild dissolving and moving to other servers to join friends, scattered to the four winds, so to speak, and looked forward to the next tournament.
I went on to the Henge of Denravi, and again pugs made up most of those who won the tournament. It was fun but stressful for many.
Again not many stayed after the season, but the servers were shaking out and moving around, even some who had been very successful had sunk to strange depths.
After Henge, I moved a couple more times looking for that “community” that had been so important in so many weeks of winning on any WvW server.
So I hit the forums and started reading about Yak’s Bend.
The leaders seemed connected to one another, communicative and fiercely loyal, not unlike many servers, but there was a tone and a determination about Yak’s Bend that seemed different.
So after being on two winners for two tournaments so far, I moved to Yak’s Bend.
September 12, 2014 and continuing through October 10, 2014.
The hardest fight I’ve ever seen for a win was pulled out by Yak’s Bend.
Did some leave after we won that last WvW season that Anet allowed us to have? You BET!
Did the good one’s leave?
No.
That was the difference.
Trolls left.
Disgruntled left.
Spies left.
But the core was only getting stronger.
The move from Silver to Gold was a fight against not only being double-teamed constantly, it was also a constant fight against siege trolls and more , all of whom were determined to see us lose by any means possible.
Fast forward to now – we’re still being double teamed only this time in Gold and by two servers who freely walk amongst each other’s keeps without a shot being fired.
The kind of loyalty I see on Yak’s Bend, the fierce determination we have as Yak’s would be gone in New York Minute if the servers were removed.
Servers matter.
Server loyalty is something many of us have waited for, for years. A specific place to call “home” even if we don’t have even a hovel to decorate in any game mode, it’s our home.
I’ve heard rumor after rumor after rumor that WvW will be disassembled and the servers will go away.
If you want WvW to become the worst game mode of all, by all means remove the servers.
If I can’t call others to my cause, my server and my game suffers, the megaserver is a mistake that should never have been made as far as WvW is concerned, we needed our cities intact and secure, what we have now is nothing like the WvW of old where a map call could and would excite the new and the old players alike to a rally point when things were getting tight and tough.
This in my opinion is why the transition to a mega server wouldnt be that big of an issue. Do i like having a home server? sure i do. I loved being on Anvil Rock and talking trash to FC and ET back in the day in T8 or the big server matchups against GOM in Season 2. But that was a long time ago and Anet has gone out of their way to destroy server community when they megaservered PvE. Guild recruitment became a lot harder. Those map call outs you speak of no longer exist outside of WvW. Yes, you see some people from your server in Lions Arch but no one talks about WvW. They havent done a new wvw season, the whole idea of “server identity or server pride” has faded tremendously. The trash talk between servers has diminished greatly, sure people still hate YB because of siege or hate JQ because we blob or w/e but it’s nothing close to what it used it. The amount of guilds that actually hold loyalty to a server has diminished as well, nowadays guilds go wherever there’s action. I realise there are people who take great pride and put in a lot of work into their server, but lets face it… anet killed most of that a long time ago.
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idk personally if they changed it to open world pvp, id stop playing. the wvw concept is what drew me to the game which im sure it did for many others as well. i know we could argue forever but i just dont see how open world pvp would make things better.
It brings toxicity and drama (or excitement according to you)? cool? we have a match up forum that’s a bunch of nonsense already, personally i dont need more. It would just be a bunch of whiners and people talking trash cause they ganked an uplevel. congrats
You still have the issue of finding fights, again you are spreading out an already low wvw population from 4 maps to all the pve maps. there will be even more complaints
As stated before you kitten off the pve community which anet does not want to deal with as they already have so much on their plate.
i think one of the big draws to GW2 is the fact that the player chooses what they want to do. if they want soley pve they stay in pve, if you want small scale fights you go to pvp, iif you want larger scale you can wvw. at least until recently where they are forcing people to pve thats how gw2 has been.
people already dislike EOTM because of the pve aspect, why would you want to mix pve and pvp/ wvw even more??
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No its not.. it would need a full overhaul..Maps, resources & everything. But for now, point is there wasting all there energy & resources making new mega maps & all sorts of mods that ppl are not getting into. Plus the imbalance that dont help. With no one actually playing it. So they should consider it. New game.. with some old stuff from the Gw1 & evrything that actually works for player base.
Just to add on.. look at this huge thread pushing the point i made. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/How-many-quit-playing-WvW-since-new-maps
That thread doesnt push for open world pvp, it’s simply stating that population issues mean outside of EBG there are no fights unless you are in T1. Which then leads to the question of, if the wvw population is already bleeding so many numbers what makes you think open world pvp would solve that issue. other than roamers and kittens who like ganking uplevels there just isnt much you would gain from this change. getting rid of wvw and changing to open world pvp would worse than what we have now.
you would kitten off pve’ers and a large majority of the wvw population for sure
T1 NA is pretty active. Fights on the desert bls every night because EB is always queued. There’s at least 10 guilds that run 20+ providing fights. I dont know how it is during off hours but during prime NA, we havent had trouble finding a fight.
Last night it was the JQ Blob and EBG. That’s it. Not sure if that’s finding a fight when you have 19 on you.
EBG is always a blobfest. I didnt raid last night so idk how the action was but the last two weeks there has been fights in the BLs every night we raided. My point is there is no lack of fights in T1 NA outside of EBG because there’s a wide range of active guilds running good numbers. i guess yesterday was an exception.
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T1 NA is pretty active. Fights on the desert bls every night because EB is always queued. There’s at least 10 guilds that run 20+ providing fights. I dont know how it is during off hours but during prime NA, we havent had trouble finding a fight.
it’s a cool idea but i think it would be hard to implement. it would depend on how easy it would be to temporarily change wvw server instances for a player. im not sure the technical stuff that goes behind that, or if it works like megaservers in pve. I know you can make a guild teleporter in the guild halls so im sure its possible to transport lets say 15-20 people to one map.
This seams very similiar to Ragnarok Online “War of Emperium”
RO WoE was the best, one of the main reasons i decided to play GW2 because WvW reminded me of it. Miss that game so much.
Ps: just for note, ArchAge was number mmo for a wile until Trion kitten it up with there greed. $$$. But it was number 1 becuz of it’s open world pvp designe. One of the best mmo’s out there. to bad for the poor bad decisions.
i hated AA, the idea was good, but terrible game. so i guess im not the right person comment on this. It did have potential but yea Trion F’d it up badly. like the person above me said, GW2 isnt built for open world pvp, and judging the way anet has handled wvw, i think it would just end up in complete disaster. you either kitten off all the pvp/ wvwers or you kitten off all the pve’ers (which takes up most of their player base) who want nothing to do with pvp. At this point anet cant afford to keep losing players
plus if you want pve + wvw just go eotm lol
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Ive never played WoW so i cant attest to or criticize its system. I’m not sure getting rid of wvw and changing it to open world pvp would be the best thing for anet. GW2 prides itself on having a friendly community, i think open world pvp would make it toxic, which anet does not want. a lot of people play this game solely for wvw like myself, if they got rid of it they would lose a good amount of their playerbase and while wvw is struggling i’d still rather have it than not have it at all. Also if you make it an optional thing to turn pvp on or off, im not sure you would get that many fights, at that point you might as well just queue pvp arenas. Again i havent played WoW so i dont know how their system works, but having played games like Archeage, i personally did not like open world pvp. plus i think it would kitten off pve’ers to have blob fights on their maps lol.
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Megaserver would actually be good for WvW right now. It would help solve some population issues that plague 6/8 tiers. If they megaservered WvW to have 4 tiers (2 servers per megaserver) I think this will bring competitive matchups.
There’s two issues though. The first is the servers can barely handle WvW as it is, I feel the stress would just be too much on Anet’s servers. The second issue is Anet would give up a lot of their profit by megaservering wvw. It’s just too much lost transfer gem money they would lose out on. In the end Anet is a business and their goal is to make money, from a monetary point of view they would never megaserver wvw. plus WvW is so unstable right now, guilds are transferring every other month to the most active tier, think of all the moneys they are making right now. (it’s not a coincidence they just opened up all the servers including T1)
the erver where i play is a t3-t4** in NA and BL’s were already empty do u guys think this is a map problem???
- (sometimes we jump to t3 >_> to get blobbed hard ) <3 glicko.
Paulo u guys want the old map because was a easy karma train map and easy to hide in any tower, what we should be asking should be to change the actual new BL mechanics, not bring a dumb spam 1 map, not even counting the bugs on some towers…
The new BL is ment to be harder for the other server that are invading, not spam 1 until gate is down under 1 minute….edit(with the actual WvW updates looks like mechanics will be even worse…that actually some people wanted.)
If aint cheap aint playing right.
my main issue with the new map is the lag, otherwise i dont think it’s bad. It does feel rather big but that’s because it is empty. if they can fix the lag it wont be so bad
If there’s one thing can be fixed with relative ease and possible bring more people into the desert borderlands is to remove the large center event. Whenever that event is going on the borderlands lag like no tomorrow but whenever it ends the borderlands are playable.
By doing this hopefully more people will try to fight in the borderlands but with the current lag, no one wants to fight there. this might help revive wvw just a tiny bit, cause right now it’s just everyone piling into EBG and whoever has the bigger map queue wins.
If nothing else will be done with wvw at least fix this.
if they megaserved 2 servers and had different matchups each week like eotm, we’d have 4 tiers, i think this would fix a lot of the population issues. the issue is wvw is already super laggy, with the larger map capacity, more people would make it even more unplayable. it’s hard for anet to do anything because their servers can barely handle wvw right now as it is.
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tier 1 is empty too just thought i would add that. never see a queue ever and only eb has roamers. you get a zerg from time to time(rarely) lol
wow sounds like T1 is worse than T2. We get fights in T2 but it’s only in EB and it’s just map blobs. Guilds run 40+ with pugs and hug each other all night. But outside of EB nothing. we have to ask guilds to come to a bl to fight us because EB is unplayable at times due to the massive amount of skill lag.
I noticed last night though the event that occurs center map on the borderlands causes a lot of lag, once that event ended the majority of the lag went away. So for any anet dev (if you read this) removing the event could help fix some lag on the borderlands.
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I know this is probably the 1000th post about this but for a lot of people that love WvW and mainly only play WvW, it’s sad to see that there doesn’t seem to be any focus on fixing issues that have plagued WvW for so long.
Anet you created a new map for us to fight on, but didn’t take into consider the population issues that still effect almost every server from Tier 2 and below. The map is just way too big and there’s just not enough people to fight. I’m not sure what the best solution to this, maybe it’s time to megaserver WvW? 2 Servers per megaserver which would make 4 tiers. Perhaps this can also help provide more random matchups every week. The only issue would be even more lag. Along with an empty borderland the LAG in WvW is unreal. Which brings me to my next topic…
WVW IS SO LAGGY!!!!! The new borderlands are almost impossible to fight on because of lag. No one fights on them resulting in everyone piling into EBG every night which then results in 10 sec skill delay. I’m not sure what the thought process was for raising map capacity when the servers could barely handle it before. One factor into the lag issue may be the bug of everyone’s bags appearing everywhere. Because the server has to create an item for every bag and for every player.
For those that love WvW, please do something, if it means bringing back the old Borderlands, do it. WvW is dying fast and you will lose something that imo makes this game great.
Tired of ridiculous queues? but still want constant fights? Come to SoS, you’ll rarely see a queue but you’ll get the constant fights of T2.
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terribad lag is bad. Anet if you want meta to be blobs at least make it lagfree blobs. come on.
mine does that too on my human guardian and my asuran warrior.
DR has that we call them HoD why mess with the only stable group the server has ever had join them and wreck havok on your enemies
you do know HoD’s WvWers all transferred right?
Still looking for players who are looking for a more organized WvW experience but have fun at the same time.
good luck ASH!!
we also got one spot for an experienced warrior
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DmD has never really gotten the credit they deserve imo. They put in a lot of work on Devona’s Rest but often unseen due to their offpeak hours. Great group of people, check em out if you are looking for an late NA/ OCX guild!
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Svid and Silent lead a great group! They are a great group of people to WvW with! A force to be reckoned with, check em out!
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still cant say enough about HoD! Great leaders, great people. I always enjoy joining in their runs. They put in a lot of hard work for DR, they are a big reason for DR’s rise!
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TBT is constantly striving to be better, and provide nightly excellence in WvW. We are still looking for committed and active players who want to raise their game. As a guild, that started in the very bottom of T8 with mostly PvEers we have fought our way up through bronze and are now competing in T4. Come be apart of the fun.
New Vid from this week’s reset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qo9er8SVHo
DR queued 4 maps for at least an hour on reset. They need MOAR!!!!!!
You’re right! DR looking for OCX & SEA guilds/ players. Come be apart of a great community!
New vid of us fighting in T4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzM9_7iCE3I
Still looking for more necros & guards, Msg me if you’re interested.
One of the guilds that left BP left because they were hated on by everyone, just go on BP’s forums you’ll see. That’s BP’s problem that they created. From there it’s a slippery slope, once one big guild leaves the rest start leaving. Same thing happened when we left AR.
So you are now confirming that DR has helped pay for the transfer of the two largest WvW guilds on BP thus stripping and ruining their WvW presence? And you can honestly sit there and say these types of actions are good for the competitive health of WvW as a whole? Gutting every server you come across making 6 or 7 super wvw servers and a graveyard everywhere else?
Where in that post did i say we stripped them by paying their transfers? You need to work on your reading comprehension. Bronze league was already a graveyard before all this happened.
One of the guilds that left BP left because they were hated on by everyone, just go on BP’s forums you’ll see. That’s BP’s problem that they created. From there it’s a slippery slope, once one big guild leaves the rest start leaving. Same thing happened when we left AR.
First off let’s get this clear, DR hasn’t bought out any guild. We only offer to help with gold but we dont pay full transfers. Thats why the guilds that ask for us to bid for their services or demand we pay their transfers we turn them down. And only 2 of the guilds that came can field anywhere near 30 nonetheless 40. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are 10 people at most. A couple of them have merged but we didnt get 10 guilds fielding 40 each.
OP, You do realize getting all these guilds doesnt guarantee anything, I wouldnt be surprised if we get a beating in T4. Bronze was pretty much dead before all this happened, which is why this happened. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are from bronze servers who wanted something new and not dead match ups every week and want to see what it’s like at the top. You can also blame your own server for outnumbering and blobbing down every other server for 20 straight weeks. (im assuming you are from that server)
The game is dieing, and unless this new September update brings something major to the table for WvW, you gotta adapt for your server to be successful and stay alive, and that’s exactly what we did.
“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change.
In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment.” -DarwinConfirmation of guild buying by someone from a guild that was bought during the tournament…
Did you even read? We dont buy guilds. You’re just salty cause we picked DR over your server. And I’m glad we did. You guys won the tourney so what are you so mad about? Not our fault you guys got smacked in T4 and half your WvW population quit. And if im not mistaken you guys are paying for a one or two guilds interested in going to your server this coming week.
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Right now bringing in an influx of players to 1 server does absolutely nothing except waste your own gold and bring sheer boredom to the incoming guilds who will probably be subjected to maps with nothing to do.
The game is dieing, Anet hasnt released a major WvW update for months. It’s better than sitting at the bottom of Bronze (which DR was at one point) with dead matchups every week. Reset is fun then dead rest of the week. At least now we are getting more fights and the hope is that it will get less boring the higher we go up, whether that will be true or not remains to be seen. But for now, while people are still playing this game, we are gonna go for it and see what happens.
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First off let’s get this clear, DR hasn’t bought out any guild. We only offer to help with gold but we dont pay full transfers. Thats why the guilds that ask for us to bid for their services or demand we pay their transfers we turn them down. And only 2 of the guilds that came can field anywhere near 30 nonetheless 40. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are 10 people at most. A couple of them have merged but we didnt get 10 guilds fielding 40 each.
OP, You do realize getting all these guilds doesnt guarantee anything, I wouldnt be surprised if we get a beating in T4. Bronze was pretty much dead before all this happened, which is why this happened. Most of the guilds we’ve gotten are from bronze servers who wanted something new and not dead match ups every week and want to see what it’s like at the top. You can also blame your own server for outnumbering and blobbing down every other server for 20 straight weeks. (im assuming you are from that server)
The game is dieing, and unless this new September update brings something major to the table for WvW, you gotta adapt for your server to be successful and stay alive, and that’s exactly what we did.
“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change.
In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment.” -Darwin
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