Guild Wars 2

spoj.9672:

(cant drop them as easily as you can drop regular bundles)

just press 5

I’m a bit disappointed about the cut of a meta-achievement goal (like those exclusive skins). Why aren’t the dust-goggles just the reward for completing all zone-achievements?

and why are there only generic rewards for completing the hardcore story achievements?

I also like how jumping brings new aspects to the gameplay. The search for the hidden coins in Dry Top got me to really sweet spots which gave not only a great source for screenshots but also a decent overview about the area for decicions how to proceed. It’s exploration on stereoids.

Funny how this game makes climbing much more satisfying than the Assassins Creed games.

well tying an adorable skin to a stat-set only few people want would bring in some money for Anet since people would have to use transmutation charges. But why should you complain, a new skin is now available through the game – like so many desire.

People who want that skin could craft the exotic version and/or the ascended version. I would have no problem if the asc. version would have an exclusive effect though (like the mistforged weapons).

While we’re getting new armorsets in regular intervalls from the gemstore, the new sets we get from the game are reskins.

I’m talking about the Settler-gear on Southsun Cove
I’m talking about the Nomad-gear on Dry Top

Why are people doing content? One of the reasons are new rewards. What is there for you to buy at the vendor in Dry Top in case you don’t want to play a tank-spec?

People who don’t care about this stats would still had something to craft if that nomad-gear would have a uniqe skin. So instead of 5% of the people who play tanky specs maybe 55% of the people (guys who like the new skin) would have something to work for.

Don’t start a discussion about Gem Store armor again, I just wonder why we get reskins for “new” vendor armor.

Blude.6812:

Forgot my opinion on my 1st impression, (and 2nd and 3rd attempts) just because of the forced jumping, —-— crap!

It must really be hard for some to use an aoe skill to get to a position or run against a wall while pressing jump. Or is it maybe you complain because there isn’t really anything to complain at all?

Haters gonna hate

Secca.2693:

I am terrible at getting my jumps right the first time and would even spend gems on a way to increase that.

there are still Mesmers, you know?

after doing the story I’m really overwhelmed. I didn’t expect THAT much. After single story missions in season 1 which lasted a couple of minutes with very little to it this was just mindblowing.

Tons of dialogues, a very interesting story, hidden lorepieces inside (SPOILER) xx-room which really bring tons of depth into the story and even back to season 1.

If this is any indicator of how it’s moving on in the future… well it’s gonna be so much fun.

• I really liked that those lorepieces inside the last instance were optional and now can be visited as often as I want.
• it was great to follow that person’s hints through the zone while having really good working action in between. The investigation with Marjorie while following the paths with their Mesmer and Necromancer skills… REALLY immersive.
• the challenge, very well balanced. Loved that last battle where you could use the crystal skills but didn’t have to mostly. I felt like I had accomplished something – nice!

I didn’t expect much to be honest, now shortly after going through the story missions I barely can find words how great it felt to me. This is not a step forward, this is a huge leap.

awesome, worked for me. Just pick up your trading post inbox guys

I’m from EU btw, maybe that may help.

same problem here, I “purchased” the story mission for 0 gems and got an error. No mail either, deleted all mails and still nothing.

:(( really wanna play the mission, sounds fun.

I’m really happy that a new lv.80 zone demands some kind of mastery (skill) to complete (achievements). Sure, you can’t please everyone, Anet… some handicapped people will have a hard time… but good videogames are about mastering stuff and I missed that from GW2 until now.

There is tons of content for people without skill in GW2 and I’m so greatful that I can work on something (even if it means failing a lot before I finally get it) now. And the best of it: the challenges (open world achievements, story achievements) are permanent now. AWESOME!!

Nat.4029:

The map will probably change constantly because they won’t be adding another zone for 2 more years.

lol wat??

3 jumps and the rest is optional. Lol, 1000hrs and still not a clue that a big part about the game is about jumping… just lol.

couldn’t play the story, it’s bugged for me

I like the new map, the sandstorm is an interesting mechanic… different events at different states. Tons of exploration to do, but a relatively small map (smaller than Labyrinthe Cliffs?).

I find the reward system (reward tiers) quite interesting. I don’t get it yet, but it will come – without guides it will be more fun, as always.

Len Knr.7481:

Pity it is based on entering via a jumping puzzle. Some of us have trouble with vistas. ;-(

You need 3 jumps, all the others are optional. Those 3 jumps are pretty basic too.

Morsus.5106:

I’ll wait awhile to see if this is a cool endgame zone like Orr, or if it’s gonna be like Southsun. I’m hoping it’s like the latter, and if it is my thanks too Anet!

It’s nothing like that, it’s pretty similar to Labyrinthe Cliffs. A lot of exploring and not very much big events (from what I’ve seen in the first look). The size is comparable to LC too imho.

interesting mechanic with the reward-tiers. I don’t get it yet 100% but it will come, a lot of achievements to do here – I like it. The sandstorm keeps it dynamic…

I wonder what the future holds for the map, I don’t think it will stay the same.

lol

btw. I love the new map, the sandstorm is keeping it quite dynamic

sorudo.9054:

i would do a dungeon if the token(s) i get is a guaranteed armor piece, within one single run.
that’s what they promised before the game was released and that’s one of the reasons why i bought GW2, what they did however put a huge damper on my reasons.

i would like to see some of the GW1 stuff back, an armor merchant is always welcome.
altough i guess they are gonna price them just as high as the cultural armors, 35g just for the chest piece…….talk about overpriced…….and it isn’t even max(exotic/ascended)

It was a long road to get the “right” balancing of rewards for dungeon. At first you had to do FAR mor runs to get enough tokens to buy a piece of armor which has changed considerably over the course of time.

What I really can’t stand about your comment is the “they promised us” argument. GW2 like any other mmo is an evolving game which changes based on consumer feedback (voiced or data) as well as the judgement of the devs in their view what’s best for the game. Nothing is stale. There were NO promises, only design-thoughts that changed in order to make it work for most consumers.

It would make no sense to not scale players up to lv.80 when the zone arrives, else a lot of people would have no chance to play the living story when it’s new.

just magical, I love it

Beldin.5498:

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

The same could be said to dungeons, but apparently they aren’t dead – still find a party for any path in the lfg-tool in less than 5min most of the time.

But thats mainly because of the direct Gold people get there. Take that away and give only the tokens for the skins .. i doubt so many people would still play them.

exactly, that’s why I suggested additional rewards. When you look at it you get at least dungeon tokens = exclusive skins for doing dungeons (+ gold) and what do you get for exploring/events? Karma. Honestly… meh.

(Yes, you get your guaranteed rare and chests for the meta events, but the game is so much more than just looking at your timer and waypointing to the big boss to kill it in 10 minutes)

The same could be said to dungeons, but apparently they aren’t dead – still find a party for any path in the lfg-tool in less than 5min most of the time.

I think everything that makes people go out into the world and explore that, do events like they are intended to… all of this is good for the game. I’m not saying there need to be even more incentives to explore, just that this accountbound-zone specific drops would be a good start.

And I didn’t say that you should have to grind a map 1000 hours, instead I proposed a high droprate of accountbound items and even a higher droprate for these items on mobs (or even events) which haven’t been done for a while.

An other way to get this on: go away from random drops and have it bound to events. Do 20/30 unique events in a zone to get that guaranteed exclusive skin. Some UI would count those events, so doing the same 4 events endlessly would get you nowhere. After you’ve reached those 20/30 events the counter resets and you can repeat it to get another reward (helmet, chest, legs,…)

Stooperdale.3560:

1) You’re asking for full reward for playing the game exactly like you play it. That sort of post occurs often on the forums. This is particularly true for cosmetics where players want the cosmetic for themselves but don’t want it to be so common that everyone else wears it too.
2) The story events are designed to be completed by everyone, absolutely everyone. Giving rewards for that will be like giving rewards for logging on.

Having said that, it would make sense for an armor set to be available through LS2, one piece at a time. That would encourage players to get every chapter.

Well we have exclusive skins for people who do dungeons, why not having exclusive skins for people who play the zones? Do events like they were intended instead of having a champion train only which skips every event on it’s way to the next champ.

What’s so bad in having the players do events again? I also would tie the droprate of those skins to the bonus-xp mobs have accumulated when not being killed, that way people would have to find new places which aren’t crowded which would work against that train-mentality.

Having a party of 2-5 people who roam around a map doing events and following event chains while having a really GOOD chance at exclusive rewards that way would be awesome if you ask me. Currently the exploration-aspect in the game lacks the rewards imho.

Prophet.6257:

Spiuk.8421:

Everything should be account bound.Adding a market economy to a videogame is not only pointless but anti-fun.

Nothing should be account bound.

Having another option to gain items besides random drops is more fun than RNG.

I heavily disagree. What do you think is the reason for that bad RNG? It’s because the trading post is global. They had to decrease the droprate of those special skins because otherwise there would be a huge number of these in the trading post which would devalue them. People undercut constantly would make them a few silver instead of hundrets of gold.

The trading post is the reason for bad RNG. Look at Diablo III, after the auction house was taken out of the game loot has much better droprates and people enjoy getting that loot through killing mobs.

So I’m not saying: get rid of the TP. I’m saying that there should be exclusive skins that drop on an accountbound status. This way the droprate could go up considerably.

GW1 maps took longer to traverse because:

• you had to fight every enemy, skipping not that easy
• you couldn’t jump and so you had to follow tubelike paths. You couldn’t even jump off/run off a plateau

Prophet.6257:

Maybe a good time to reintroduce that tribal armor we saw in PvP for awhile.

it certainly fits the jungle-theme… maybe drops from a new Hylek tribe? ^^
Well I guess it’s wishful thinking, we haven’t heard a word from Anet about it’s stance on peoples opinion regarding the lack of set-skins from drops/rewards.

I don’t think it’s all about money for them. It just takes much more work to create a context (story, events) for the new skin-set – so it’s about ressources. Maybe Maguuma is the perfect chance since there will be enough content.

nexxe.7081:

GW2 needs new full armor sets that can be acquired from within the game. I’ve been saying this for almost a year, and it never happens.

Please elaborate. There are a lot of problems with various implementations of this. Also: technically you already can since gold is earned within the game and you simply turn it to gems and buy it.

I guess what you guys mean (correct me if I’m wrong) is that you’re missing the context. That a fiery weapon should drop in a volcano area from a destroyer (simple example). An other viewpoint: you miss the stories about the rewards.

what else needs to be considered:

• dungeon token skin sets – not everyone likes dungeons and people want to see more nice rewards from open world content
• karma reward – people have accumulated tons of karma and just buying the stuff for karma feels quite underwhelming when you still have half a million karma in your wallet after the purchase

This is why I tried to suggest zone specific (story context) drops which are accountbound (can’t take a shortcut by being rich).

DiogoSilva.7089:

More account bound items should be a strategy to improve rewards in this game without breaking the economy, in my opinion. I wonder if Anet agrees with that or not.

I think so too. People repeatedly say that they want more skins from playing the game and not the store and I don’t doubt that Anet has read that quote… but most people aren’t specific enough. They don’t elaborate how it could be done.

Well accountbound means that these items drop like those set items you see in singleplayer roleplaying games. It makes people want to really collect these sets longterm.

By having these items being accountbound, you’d allow the devs to greatly increase it’s droprate. As ascended mats drop from every champion currently, why not get the same stuff out of an item which drops once every 100 enemies, just so that it isn’t useless vendor-trash? (why not add a good chance to drop lodestones instead of ascended mats too? This way the guys who look for profit (like you Morsus) would be happy too. The skin still stays exclusive to the finder, but you get valuable stuff out of it too which is useful for other things (legendaries,…).

I’d love to see accountbound zone-specific-drops of set-pieces. Those items can also be salvaged into ascended mats.

In the CDI’s we talked about zone specific reward systems like zone progression. You could tie the droprate of those set pieces to the progression of done events in this new map for example.

why accountbound?

• so that people can’t take the lazy route via trading post or the gemstore.
• so that the droprate can be much better compared to unbound items (which are expected to be bought through the trading post since you can’t farm them directly but get them through pure luck)

I wonder if people would really find it fun to traverse in a zone which looks like their suggestions. Movement impairing conditions, poor sight, huge deserted areas… sounds awful to me.

I guess we will see a lot of the things which are desert-related in the EotM map since this is / was the perfect testing ground for a new map. Maybe there are those wurm-travel channels.

I’m not sure if it would be fun to run around in huge flat areas with nothing but sand. Not without some kind of mount (like the wurms in GW1) which I suppose won’t make a return.

What I really love(d) are the short stories from the blog posts. The only thing about those I really couldn’t stand was that they weren’t in the game. If you read those you obviously see that the writers are good at what they do, but the writing that makes it into the game seems to be really cut down to the most important lines of a longer narrative.

From what I’ve got from some of the responses if seems to me that Anet has high standards in it’s voice-acted storytelling. What I would like to say to the responsible ones: I don’t mind if a lot of stuff isn’t voice acted, it’s really NOT immersion breaking to me that I have to read some stuff instead of listening to it.

It would be awesome if more of the writing makes it into the game, I know that the writers are absolutely able to provide that but somehow between the game and the notice board it seems to get lost somewhere. :-/

anzenketh.3759:

I honestly think the new Living World content is going to be Guild Wars 2 Endgame. That is also Endgame that I can get behind as personally I do not like instanced Raid content as it invites exclusion.

Colin said exactly this in the interview about the story journal. GW2’s endgame is the living stoy compared to raids in other games.

The evacuation of LA,

I was quite impressed that there is content which makes people work together in that big scope. Getting the best reward after having good evacuation runs was quite satisfying to me.

I’m very fine with 200 gems per episode. As long as I can test each of them via asking others to group… no problem at all.

2 weeks until episode one, let’s wait for it and discuss then, what do you think?

@Devata:

No, it’s not hindering people to return to the game compared to other mmos because the main content (open world stuff, new maps, skills, features, dungeons, etc.) will be free for everyone. No exclusion of players who return because they can participate in everything (yes, even story missions simply by asking someone who got it to group up and run it).

And if you don’t like the story missions after trying, then you don’t have to buy it. Simple as that. The rest of the permanent content is open to everyone – which would be the meat of the game.

Loosmaster.8263:

EoTM has no influence on WvW, so therefore it was NOT a WvW update.

It is WvW, the same servers fighting in an open world PvP style and earn WvW Badges and other rewards.

+ you get supply for winning into your borderlands citadel

all this talk about WvW getting neglected… well I guess Edge of the Mists is just a dream and I’m gonna wake up soon. I dreamt of that huge new map with tons of new mechanics, objectives, structures, new environments, etc. etc.

I’m not saying that EotM doesn’t need a few fixes so that the PvErs find somewhere else to drive their karma/champion trains, but first and foremost this is quite a huge addition to WvW content. Same as the Borderland-Ruins, which could work out just fine with a few fundamental fixes. At the moment the buff isn’t enough incentive for people to go there.

I’m pretty ashamed of the GW2 community here on the forums, all I can see is demands.

I hope stupid hatred like this doesn’t get to close to the devs. Seriously Anet, you’re doing a great job, keep doing it and don’t listen to that part of “the internet”. It’s for the best of all of us when it’s delivered to us when it’s actually ready.

Constructive criticism is one thing, a lot of happening here is a whole different kind of beast and should be banned without thinking twice. It’s poisoning the community.

some people rage about getting expansion-content for free (maps, skills, weapons) while having to pay for missed story episodes. LOL they really must be frustrated that there is less and less to complain about.

people forget that you can play each episode for free even if you’ve missed it:

Just ask a guildie / anyone (lfg-tool) who has got the episode to invite you to his/her group and replay the mission. If you like it, buy it for the achievenments and rewards.

The information about the new challenging achievements makes me looking forward to s2 most.

I wonder if the elimination of the s1-like meta achievements means that temporary achievements are fully gone then. As I understood there will still be open world temporary content – so will there be achievements for the more casual players that are temporary too?

Currently I find it hillarious that people are complaining about the 200gem price in case they’ve missed the episode.

…and then the same people complain about not getting an expansion. Sigh.

I’m really curious about the “new” more challenging achievements. Will it be pure skill based stuff, will we see more grindy challenges, both?!

What I’d love to see:

• skill based only
• unique skins / part of a set