Guild Wars 2

Nice, looking forward to it. Our numbers are completely random, everything between 1 and 6-7 is possible. I`ll add you ingame and hit you up via pm, so we can meet at a quiet place.

Well, I`m Bookah`s failbob no. 1, so nothing to be afraid of.

See ya, enjoy your matchup.

Thank you for the matchup, SFR and Vizunah. Good luck for the coming matches and special thanks to all the KoA`s who bowed when downing a certain asura necro on suicide mission.

Also, Wolfheart, im serious, in a manly and platonic way of course. By the way, I think we still haven`t met roaming, we should do that next time. I guess Kodash will become the punching bag of gold league instead of silver league`s superhero.

Best regards

Love you, too.

Gl & hf

“SFR threads are disgusting as ever…”, “…and the same people here that are now so full of themselves complain…”

I did word my post carefully, where did I say every SFR player is like that, it`s just the same 5% that make every SFR thread disgusting. I wasn`t even talking about any players or their qualities?!

Sorry, Wolfheart, do you have a bad day? Don`t put words in my mouth that I never said… I`m quite a bit disappointed cuz you seemed to be one of the few voices of reason, why so much hostility?

But… but I was appreciating XRKUN very much in this thread… so disappointed, Wolfheart.

Buka is no one man army with different accounts, we have individuals with opinions… Is it just easier for you to reply in such a manner when you see someone with buka tag posting? Poor try, you used to do much better as well, Wolf…

By the way, do you honestly disagree after reviewing this thread? Just read the highlights from Wemil, Hebril and Aikanaro…

Aah, it`s ok, I see you joined the dark side as well… Lemme rephrase in my own words: “Im so great, you are not! Hua!”

Anyways, gl & hf

SFR threads are disgusting as ever, doesn`t matter if they win or not, it`s either lots of whining or lots of bigmouthing… bad losers and worse winners. I highly prefer Vizunah`s style, they at least are classy about it.

I`m so eagerly awaiting the drama when the league hits and the same people here that are now so full of themselves complain about anyone who`s not in a major guild, about queues, about waiting times … just about everything.

Backflash anyone?

Since when are monotag paintrain zergers who run with 20+ “roaming guilds” and since when are these of any importance for measuring a servers qualification as best roaming server?

Funny.

I love your posts, Zenguy and Cactus, always spot on. I`m not agreeing to everything you say, but you always reason with viable arguments properly backed up by facts and/or observations.

Thanks for that, keep it up.

You own nothing, Wemil. The blob does. And in case you are some kind of insect overlord for SFR i hope you`re at least as pretty as Kerrigan is…

Yeah, and ECL disbanded on SFR, KoA as well, and I`m certain there are other guilds who disbanded in the past and will in the future.

What`s the point, no correlation to the patch, and even if in FIRE`s case: a passionate wvw guild that considers itself a strong asset to wvw with a very minor focus on GvG (as you GvG guilds claim to have) wouldn`t just disband because of such a tiny impact of 5%-10% max of their playing time, right…right?

Why would they, I mean there`s still a lot to do in wvw besides GvG, at least that`s what you are trying to sell here in the forum in countless threads and posts.

Compare XRKUN`s posts in this thread to Wemil`s, funny thing is, both are basically stating the same: “I am legend, god of battlefield, yadda yadda!”

The really terrifying part is that while XRKUN is kinda humorous and funny, this Wemil guy seems to be completely serious. Now that`s what I call really concerning…

Hey guys,

I really do like Desolation, in my honest opinion the only upper bracket server that was fun to fight against and were people were roaming wvw to actually improve their skills and eventually master their classes.

But I have to say I find your recent drop in tranks a bit too drastic to be not forced upon. Kodash at one time lost all its big wvw guilds and commanders, but we still hovered around the same brackets/places for months with similar point ticks.

When I recall correctly we were matched just 5 weeks ago (when deso internal disputes were already affecting wvw heavily according to what I heared from desos) and we were no match for you, despite you being focused heavily by the matchup`s favorite, the third server – and we are place 9, now.

To me, if Deso goes silver league it is guaranteed that you will just steamroll through it and take first place with absolute ease. No offense intended, just what I predict will happen.

Personally I don`t like that too too much, because I remember deso nightshift is pretty beasty while the server is maintaining a strong daytime presence, and no server (imo) from place 6-7 downwards can compete with that.

But time will tell, good luck anyways.

Do we really need new GvG threads every few days were content is nothing but GvGers telling the world how special they are?

You guys must have very few things in live that make you feel important, if you need a new thread every few days with walls of text basically stating all the same. Please, next guy with the brilliant idea to open a thread to “inform” the world how unloved, unwanted and unrecognized you as a GvGer feel , please just dont do it.

It gets old, ladies… are you really that desperate for drama?

I`ve watched that Anet interference GvG vid and the only really sad drama to me is the friggin terribad PvP play I`ve had to watch. I had the feeling these guys had too few computer periphals at hand and one half of the crew was using mice only, while the other one was making first steps at their keyboard while using no mice at all.

Please GvG community, spend less timing whining and arguing, that time would be much better spend by actually learning to play. You know, good players usually don`t have to prove anything or to “inform” their communities that they are any good.

And yeah, call me guildless pug, PvE casual or whatever you want. I guess it`s easier that way for you guys.

Oh please, SFR, treat this guy with candy, girls and whatever he wants. He quickly grew on me as one of the most funny creatures your server has raised so far.

Watch and learn, Junkpile.

Edit:

@ Apfelcreme:

Nooo, don`t be such a meanie and don`t report him, please. His posts are too good (and quite clever actually). I`m still laughing every time I reread it, and I don`t think he`s serious (at least not completely… right?).

Just read it as if he would tell with a sarastic voice and rolling eyes.

Best regards

That post is funny enough for me to love it. Well played, you win.

Best regards

@ XRKUN:

So who (except Vizunah) would be able to challenge the o so precious first place of SFR in any matchup? Great coverage doens`t make a great name, it just seems to encourage lazyness and deluded egos… alongside with queue and lags.

Congratulations, XRKUN! Your “1” smashing abilities have promoted you to status of full zergling. Now get in the queue, zergling no. 518923242! Be proud of your name…ehm…number…whatever!

No offense, not even your fault but a simple fact.

Best regards

You have no self-respect? Then choose D/P thief (or P/D Dire/Centaur or Perplexity) and warrior – guaranteed escape even when you were brain afk eating chips with one hand and drinking beer with the other until the first zerglings swing their weapons on you.

You want a challenge? Then choose engi, guard or necro. You will need good positioning and awareness to surivive reliably.

I am roaming on necro, and while it is true what this Aphix guy said regarding 1vX, you`ll still lack escape tools to dodge the zerg or adds joining your fights. Means you`ll die more compared to the above mentioned classses until you delevoped said positional and combat awareness.

Rangers, Eles and Mesmers are somewhat middleground in regards to solo roaming. Can be brilliant in some situations, but not as good in other areas.

Best regards

I met two of the [Run] dudes so far, ele and guard. Both seemed to be quite good players and sporty guys.

Best regards

I learned to respect a lot of Vizunian smallscale guilds this week, [Run], [KIWI] and [ELY] for example. Great skills and attitude.

But this [Wipe] guild seems to consist of some of the worst players this game has to offer, lose every 1on1 and 2on1 even (2 of them), as consequence they run as soon as odds are somewhat equal and wait to gank (d/p thief so skillful…) you when your busy fighting other guys. Best one was, I duelled a skillful guard from [Run], [Wipe] jumped on me with three guys midfight, killed me and started dancing on my body…

Poor performance, really…

Best regards

Good job @ VM, miss fighting you guys already. Unleash the dragon…. or something like that!

Best regards

Great play @ PSY.

But I liked this video far less than the previous one I watched (the north camp fight). Reason is, the fast forward makes it impossible to observe the already fast paced fights closely (player mechanics, group coordination, skill usage of your mates, etc pp). Additionally, the choice of music further makes it feel more flurry and chaotic.

I hope you take it as constructive criticism and I didn`t hurt anyone`s feelings. But the above mentioned style made it near unwatchable for me.

Best regards.

Nice fights @ [KIWI], hope we meet more often and with equal numbers. Keep up the good work!

Best regards

Wow, Wemil, dude, you got serious issues…

Wemil, could you please leave your friggin immature ego and SFR out of this thread, thank you. Seriously, what`s wrong with this guy?

I have to agree to what Bleed said regarding the way Vizunians act on the forum and ingame as well. Most posts from Vizunians are respectful and friendly (even if they`ve been provoked before).

Some Vizunians even contacted me ingame and apologized for their overwhelming numbers and said something along the lines of:" We are fighting now great servers, with great players and guilds, you deserve so much better!"

I highly respect that, kudos to you guys.

(But please stop dragoontoothing our defensive siege in the last remaining tower we have with strange zooming options, your numbers are enough to get that tower anyways )

Best regards

Hey Aneu,

I`ve been critizing GvGers heavily in other threads but I want to thank you for this beautiful piece of text. It`s been a while since I`ve read such a well worded post with so much truth in it. I don`t think this post is meant to be about GvG at all, it`s just asking for more acceptance and coexistance for all the different kinds of players who share a passion for WvW.

Sadly, some people just recognize your guild tag and ignore the opinion (and appeal) you`re trying to share.

Thanks again, best regards.

I`d say engi and necro would the most challenging choices, but very powerful if played well in any roaming setup (solo, duo, smallgrp).

Warrior is at the moment one of the easiest and most powerful choices, just play mace/shield & GS (+heal signet, bersi stance, bulls charge and endure pain), learn to time your skullcracker for stun and GS switch for burst and escape.

Ranger can be very effektive as well, in particular when specced for mobility, condition, toughness and healing.

Memsers are traditionally good at roaming since release, never a bad choice. Just switch to rune of the traveller to make up for lack of ooc speed.

To run solo as a guard can be quite challenging, but is possible as well, lack of non-utility mobility is its biggest weakness.

To sum it up, every class can be good at roaming, if you choose the right gear, traits and take your time to master it. It`s just that some are more challenging due to lack of mobility and/or panic buttons to mitigate damage.

Best regards

Yeah, and Aurora is permanently attacking Kodash territory while we struggle to keep Viz busy @ bay instead of taking your own stuff back on Vizunah GL. We do stupid things sometimes, you do it as well and Vizunah probably, too (but their numbers make up for it). What`s the point?

Best regards.

@ Mammoth:

I see, you`re a lost case. I was just trying to end this senseless discussion in a nice way but you`re just to stubborn and full of yourself to react appropriately. I feel kinda sorry for you, you seem to be all sunshine and roses.

Your bragging is what it is, your heroic deeds in soloQ kinda laughable and still no valid argument provided except personal point of view.

Well, please don`t bother telling me how special you and your opinion are and lets end it right here, thank you very much.

@ Altie:

I`ve capped everything in this game with two guys, soloed keep lords, wiped triple the size of my 5 man. Just because YOU are not able to fight in smaller groups doesn`t mean, others aren`t. Now get back to the blob really quick, otherwise it might occur you have to do pvp in wvw, now that`s terrifying, ha?

@ Jinks:

“S: GvG players have no skill and die easily when I fight them outside of GvG
A: If you make that statement please list your server and play times. I’m sure there are GvG players out there who will fight you in a Fight Club or come find you. Personally my guild GvGs. Everyone in my guild is solid in small skirmishes.”

My server is Kodash, I`m available almost every day, I`m waiting for you. You`re welcome any day to back up your claim to be solid at smallscale. PM me, whatever you want. With two notable exceptions (I already mentioned them) there wasn`t a single group of GvGers that were able to put up a fight during the past 12 months in duels or smallscale. I`m always pleased when I meet good players, they just dont happen to be GvGers usually.

Best regards.

Well, at first you`re saying there`s a wide spread of truth inbetween many personal opinions, then you continue to call out the opinions you don`t agree with for not having any basis? You see the contradiction?

To be honest, I had and still have absolutely no problem with GvG, nor the people who enjoy it. But the amount of self-praise, whining and attention-whoring of GvGers by far exceeds its importancy and legitimacy as a form of high level PvP (in my personal opinion) within the game mode called wvw. It is an abomination of the original idea of open world roaming. Show some respect to people who might find the recently introduced and to be implemented changes to wvw very appealing, and respect will be given back to you.

The overall attitude and arrogance of this Ogre guy is just disgusting, totally out of place and generally insulting to players who prefer playing WvW instead of GvG.

I hope I made my point a bit more clear.

Anyways, have fun and good luck (sincerely) with your proposal for a game mode catering to your preferred style of play.

Thanks for bringing real arguments, I get your point and agree to a certain extend, at least regarding having more viable options than other classes. But I wish we had more depth and variety for equal condition pressure as well, since I don`t like be narrowed down to one option and slight variations.

Is it a bad thing to ask for more diversity? I don`t think so, and I don`t think the impolite poster who was sharing my opinion (too lazy to spell his crazy name) had any other intention than bringing up that issue.

No feelings hurt on my side, best regards.

You guys enter every thread around yelling and screaming how important you are for the game, now you even call it PvP what you`re doing. It`s funny enough, that it is always the same 10-15 guys telling anybody else how special their GvG community and efforts is. Please don`t tell me what to do, as long as you guys do the same whereever you go.

I don`t have to be part of what I can see is clearly not PvP (maybe an infants version of it). Thanks to free "visitor"s access at the mill, youtube & twitch there`s plenty of opportunity to watch your performance even first person plus audio, hence the player`s mechanics as well – summary: nothing to be proud of, nothing to be called competitive, nothing to see there, really.

Have fun running cycles in PVT, hua!

Well at least everything that makes PvP exciting is involved in tPvP and smallscale wvw: splitsecond heal/stomp interrupts, focus targeting, assisting, safe stomping, actual communication between team members (not just a single badboy shouting commands) and so on – that`s PvP. All that stuff gets lost in GvG, mark the leader.. yay.

If 20% of your GvG team sucks, it won`t make a notable difference, because it`s just four guys out of twenty, it gets lost in numbers. If 20% of any 5 man sucks, it will heavily affect the outcome. Think about it. That`s what makes GvG a joke, same as PvE raiding.

It is just not as demanding and challenging to the individual player skills, more coordination driven, very much like PvE raiding.

Best regards.

Why wouldn`t I be voicing my opinon, these are the WvW forums afaik. That`s my observations after watching countless GvG`s and after having played most of these so called tiptop GvGers myself in smallscale environment, where individual player skills actually matter…. it`s most of the time just pathetic what these guys are able to deliver.

Get PVT, some guards, warris, wellomancers, sprinkle in an ele and a mesmer and you`re good to go for the cyclejerk called GvG. Sadly, there is not much to have a clue about in GvG, that`s the point.

Your guild and BuLL, Tellerion, are actually the only notable exceptions, there are some VcY members, that indeed know how to play. That doesn`t make GvG any more challenging, tho. It`s Baby-PvP for people who are not able to master their classes properly. Yeah, and I`ve met them all on the field, at least the EU ones.

Best regards

“Ogre has been the voice of the PvP community…” Wait, what? Since when is mindless GvG now called PvP? GvGers follows the same principle as PvE Raiding in other MMOs, follow the lead, spam AE, rely on mass boons from up to 24 allies… Sorry thats`s not PvP, try gain, when you`re capable of focus targeting, assisting, interrupting, communicating key skills, etc pp. You GvG guys amaze every day… an endless stream of tears and whine combined with an absolute deluded ego that`s blind for reality.

GvG is PvP now… seriously?

Best regards.

Same goes for my guild and me, I really do appreciate the focus and thought behind your latest presentation of coming updates via stream. I was becoming very sceptical in the past, but the prospect you just gave made me really happy.

The Terrain looks great, it really encourages smallscale play, ideally splits up the zerg, focuses on killing players and makes it possible to outplay a bigger army. I`m very excited about this game again, thank you very much!

Best regards and keep up the good work, you`ve just proven that you`re indeed capable of doing something for the pvp`ers in wvw. Please continue doing so.

@ Dranul:

Did you check the rankings last months at all? Kodash is hovering around rank 9-11 and got beaten by Miller`s and other similarly populated servers because of lack of coverage. Our population isn`t high tier anymore since late spring, we lost lots of core guilds and players and get our behind handed to us almost every matchup.

Millenium is available for anybody who bothers doublechecking. Please get your facts right, you make it sound as if we would be in the same league as T1-T2 servers, thats just not the case anymore since many months.

I dare saying our population is not that different from yours, maybe a bit higher when the matchup is easy and fair weather players join the fight. It`s just that somehow the rating won`t let us lose the points we should lose, because we`re constantly matched against stronger servers with two exceptions since April, i believe.

Best regards

Well, I didn`t say you were hundreds, Wam, but you did have the biggest army I saw between 20:00 and 22:00, no offense, just my impression. Didn`t see a lot of Vizunians during that time. But it could very well be that you just kept them occupied in the north.

I`m just one man, can`t be everywhere…

Yeah, AG had the biggest army on Viz BL for quite a while. Well, I guess Vizunah will start on monday to roll both, AG and Kodash.

Unfortunately reset was as laggy and crowdy as expected, hope to find some nice smallscale fights this week versus AG`s finest. Today we had server duty and were running more guys than usual, around nine of us. Well, it`s reset night.

By the way, did you see the new borderlands? I`m totally excited, they provide awesome options for smallscale!

Cya on the field & best regards.

@ Mammoth:

Poor try, kid. As I said before, SoloQ doesn`t indicate skill, to brag about SoloQ achievements is like bragging about being king of unrated battlegrounds in other games. People who know, what`s up, play it just for fun, since ego 1on1 builds dominate and teamplay is reduced to… well it`s very low.

TeamQ does indicate skill however, when somone is taking it seriously and plays an adequate amount of games. I played less than 60 TeamQ games total, nonetheless I`m matched versus EU`s finest teams whenever we queue. Yeah, we lose more than we win, but with the amount of games played compared to our opponents, lack of experience and map knowledge is deciding factor, not individual player skill. You could ask for example Mogwow from Car Crash (EU`s best team atm) what he thinks about my level of play, you`d be surprised.

Somehow I knew you`d try bringing this up, when your arguments aren`t sufficient anymore. You really seem to be a very young person, pretty full of seeing himself on a ladder and reducing every discussion to the point where you`d compare your deluded ego and position on that ladder to the person you`re discussing with. So you`re the king of the kindergarten and want to show how special you are? Try discussing like a grown up without bringing your e-pride into it.

My posts were based on objective arguments, you should give it a try.

@ Mammoth:

Selling your opinion as fact won`t help making your point. SoloQ (NA even moreso than EU) is in no way an appropriate measure of viability or equality of effectiveness, sorry to break it to you. Try again when you do something meaningful in TeamQ EU around Top 100 with your build. You`re bragging again trying to sell it as objective expertise.

I never said, we don`t have build options, they just aren`t remotely as effective as they used to be, especially compared to 30-20-0-0-20. And Anet is doing its best to widen the gap even further.

Please keep your fail assumptions regarding my reasons for arguing for yourself, passive-aggressive wording doesn`t make it any better. It`s kindergarten-rethorics, pretty pathetic to be honest.

Best regards

@ Mammoth:

Someone`s pretty full of himself, ha? Try to grow up, kiddo, I don`t care a bit about your great “achievements” and since I was talking about condition based specs, I`d like to recommend less bragging, more reading comprehension. Anybody`s opinion is welcome on these forums afaik. I get it, you feel like you`re a very special little princess, but please understand, there are grown ups visiting these threads as well.

How is brabbling about power specs and diversity of other classes`traits related, when I was focusing on condition based pressure builds? Seriously?

Well, HiSaZul could`ve chosen to be a bit more diplomatic, but I`m wholeheartedly agreeing to his actual message:

Before Dhuumfire we had at least three very viable, very balanced and somewhat equally effective terror builds, now since they nerf everything but dhuumfire into oblivion we have 30-20-0-0-20 and…. thats it. It`s poor balancing decision made by developers who tell us every day that they want to encourage build diversity. Yet their approach shows the opposite direction.

Could you guys please think for a moment before diminishing someone`s input. He has a very legit point.

I`d highly appreciate a Dev`s reply on this.

Best regards

Thank you, Liu, for bringing up, what`s bothering me for quite a while. Game went worse since the introduction of sellable siege weapons. Siege wars? Why bothering, just send 4-8 Omegas… There is no defense that can defend versus a sizable force of enemies with 4-8 of these.

In my opinion even Alphas should be last ressort, heavy investment and a rare sight. Instead the far more powerful Omega became the standard way to go. I mean, Anet themselve valued Omegas at 5g + mats + skillpoints each, and now, just buy 5 of them for the same investment without even spending skillpoints…

Dear Karl,

while I`m totally agreeing with the logic behind the scepter nerf, it further limits condition based pressure builds to the silly dhuumfire trait. It seems you really want to pigeonhole us into the 30-20-0-0-20 build, since you`re nerfing everything else. Where`s the build variety? There is non, because you decided firenecros is the way to go.

It completely negates the multiple statements of your developers that you want to encourage build diversity. You continuiosly weaken any condition based alternative to 30-20-0-0-20, why is that?

Looking forward to your reply, thanks in advance and best regards

I guess, he defines smallscale different to us – his definition will be: 7 guards, 3 warris, 4 wellomancers and a mesmer, that should be quite accurate… perhaps I forgot a single staff ele, silly me.

Yeah, you`re right, and if the warrior decides to disengage, the mesmer can hardly do anything about it. But since the matchup condinecro – condimesmer is somewhat fun and defintely challenging, it`s ok for me. Arcane thievery vs conditranfer, who fails will lose the match.