Guild Wars 2

selan.8354:

Mordecai.6318:

Never have I seen a community complain about something so much. My god, this combo has an infinite amount of counters that multiple people have listed throughout this thread. Clearly this is everyone’s first MMO and first experience with a stealth mechanic because thieves are easily countered by every class.

Shut up and learn from your mistakes. The combat in this game is so simplistic compared to basically every MMO ever, yet people want their hands held because being a brainless ham is too easy.

says the thief that cried a couple of months ago about confusion, because he couldnt spam 2222222212222221 yeah sure an entire community needs to learn to play, because u are so awesome and so godlike that u can play any other class and kill any other class with no problems whatsoever.

There isn’t a single post in my post history where I’ve “cried” about anything related to mesmer/thief. You have a few too many chromosomes.

I also never have/never will spam heartseeker because I am not an awful player. I can out think my opponents and that’s why I have no problem beating a thief on any of my six 80’s. If people are still struggling to beat thieves at the 10 month mark of this game, then you should probably re-evaluate how you’re playing or just quit all together.

This combo does not have infinite counters… in fact it has very few and even fewer are reliable. Any decent thief executing this combo will present an extremely difficult target to kill.

Yes it does. All it takes to beat them is a few stuns, immobilizes, or to knock them out of stealth. People just cant accept losing a 1v1 hence the plethora of these posts. They somehow cant figure out how to preemptively dodge, block, invuln, etc. and then capitalize once they blow their opener.

d/p is very initiative hungry and rhythm dependent when that rhythm is broken it puts the thief in a very bad position.

This.

Master of Timespace.2548:

Drtrider.6314:

Necro’s are OP as it is. Here, I have the perfect steps for you…

1. Pull out staff
2. Spam 1 through 5 around you
3. Stand in the middle of your circle of win
4. Go lych form and prema-fear every thing
5. Go on forums, cry about being under-powered
6. Win

^ doesn’t know that you can dodge roll to negate marks.

must have forgot you can’t dodge forever therefore standing in marks being incredibly effective when combining chain fears/burns/torment.

Never have I seen a community complain about something so much. My god, this combo has an infinite amount of counters that multiple people have listed throughout this thread. Clearly this is everyone’s first MMO and first experience with a stealth mechanic because thieves are easily countered by every class.

Shut up and learn from your mistakes. The combat in this game is so simplistic compared to basically every MMO ever, yet people want their hands held because being a brainless ham is too easy.

Gismor.8407:

So um SoS…. why don’t you guys actually come out and fight us? :|. We just want your bags, and hiding behind carts and balistas isn’t fun. Come out and have fun for once, no matter who has the most numbers. :/

Are you really complaining about people utilizing siege in WvW?

Kreedz.8127:

Mordecai.6318:

another one of these….

are we to make a thread everytime an axe warrior hits a 15k+ eviscerate?

I wasnt aware Warriors could Eviscerate for 15k from stealth and then follow it up with 2 equally hard hitting abilities to finish the target off?

But nah, youre right. This is definitely comparable to an avoidable ability like eviscerate.

I rarely get hit with backstabs. Completely avoidable.

I don’t even want to answer this as it has nothing to do with the thief, but….

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Marquiz.7625:

Mordecai.6318:

You really are that dense aren’t you? That group did come from the spawn point. Shortly after I respawned from my one death, my friend and I picked off a few random SBI and CD. At that point that group that initially killed me ended up at the spawn. The mesmer’s pulled us down and it ended up with you guys killing my friend and me getting away. This fight happened down the first set of stairs from the spawn. At which point, I killed a few randoms that managed to separate themselves looking for me while that large group sat and waited for a port. That’s where the SS came in.

By the way, I only roamed around the dome area because my friend got pulled off the edge by temporal curtain near the fire trap at the end. I jumped down to assist. With how many of you there were running around, making it back to the traps would have been a waste of time. I am really glad that you called your guardian hopeless though. I couldn’t help but think the same thing as I rez’d the necro I was originally with twice under his feet.

What I don’t understand is how you automatically attribute me using stealth as running. I don’t write in a diary each time I use SR and why, but like I said before, I only use it when I need it so it was more than likely to allow me to reset myself. It doesn’t matter though, really. At some point you probably died to me, and based on who seemed the most adamant on killing me I’d place my bets on you being that kittenty ranger. Could be wrong though.

And who is this Jakob guy that is so famous? I haven’t heard of him on the forums, in game, or anywhere for that matter and I played your server for over a month straight and roamed everyday. So famous he has to be proclaimed by some other nobody from a nobody server. Jakob that one famous “Crystal Desert Invader.”

Still awful.

Sooo… Your story went from you fighting 6 people, and then 10 people, to now you admiting to just picking off strays. Ouch, the truth hurts.

And, sorry to burst your bubble, I’m not the ranger. Meaning you SR and ran away from some other random ranger as well?

At this point there is no way you aren’t trolling. I said 10 people from the start. 10 with my thief friend. 6 with my necro friend. Both were listed as separate instances, but your reading comprehension is worse than your in game abilities.

When I brought up the ranger and called it “kittenty” its because I 1v1ed it twice and won without trying.

How far can you reach?

Maladon.5760:

Mordecai.6318:

Marquiz.7625:

Mordecai.6318:

That screenshot validates infinitely more of what I said that any of your terrible attempts to save face. You just admitted to not even being apart of that group in the screenshot making it at least 9 from your guild alone, not 3 as mentioned earlier. I must be lying though.

Also, I never refuge unless I absolutely have to. So I was more than likely low on initiative or needed that stealth to regen from something. The majority of the refuge’s were trying to res the necro I was originally with for the first 40 minutes or so. Don’t get me confused either with the other thief that joined me for the last hour or so after my necro friend left. I 1v1ed or 1vXed every person in there from that GS ranger, all the mesmers, the guardians, and the warriors.

Your efforts to defend yourself and your guild are as a terrible as the performance in the puzzle. You have nothing more than LOLYOUREFUGEDASATHIEF. Terrible.

I was not with the 9 below, because I was at the top watching. And that screenshot you have, merely shows 9 people infront of you, I don’t see any dead bodies, and if you killed so many, wouldn’t we have came at you at the spawn? I know what I saw, and you know what you did, just a thief running around from the dome area, to the spawn point. Paint a beautiful picture of yourself all you want, it only makes you look silly. Btw, I main a thief, I really LMAO when you used the SR in the middle of no where and ran away from a hopeless guardian.

Oh well, like I said, if it makes you feel good doing up a story, good for ya

Hey, Jakob, this guy can take on 10 of us, if you looking for a challenge, this is one for you

You really are that dense aren’t you? That group did come from the spawn point. Shortly after I respawned from my one death, my friend and I picked off a few random SBI and CD. At that point that group that initially killed me ended up at the spawn. The mesmer’s pulled us down and it ended up with you guys killing my friend and me getting away. This fight happened down the first set of stairs from the spawn. At which point, I killed a few randoms that managed to separate themselves looking for me while that large group sat and waited for a port. That’s where the SS came in.

By the way, I only roamed around the dome area because my friend got pulled off the edge by temporal curtain near the fire trap at the end. I jumped down to assist. With how many of you there were running around, making it back to the traps would have been a waste of time. I am really glad that you called your guardian hopeless though. I couldn’t help but think the same thing as I rez’d the necro I was originally with twice under his feet.

What I don’t understand is how you automatically attribute me using stealth as running. I don’t write in a diary each time I use SR and why, but like I said before, I only use it when I need it so it was more than likely to allow me to reset myself. It doesn’t matter though, really. At some point you probably died to me, and based on who seemed the most adamant on killing me I’d place my bets on you being that kittenty ranger. Could be wrong though.

And who is this Jakob guy that is so famous? I haven’t heard of him on the forums, in game, or anywhere for that matter and I played your server for over a month straight and roamed everyday. So famous he has to be proclaimed by some other nobody from a nobody server. Jakob that one famous “Crystal Desert Invader.”

Still awful.

You assmonkeys are killing this thread…

This matchup was over before it even began. No need for a thread to begin with.

Marquiz.7625:

Mordecai.6318:

That screenshot validates infinitely more of what I said that any of your terrible attempts to save face. You just admitted to not even being apart of that group in the screenshot making it at least 9 from your guild alone, not 3 as mentioned earlier. I must be lying though.

Also, I never refuge unless I absolutely have to. So I was more than likely low on initiative or needed that stealth to regen from something. The majority of the refuge’s were trying to res the necro I was originally with for the first 40 minutes or so. Don’t get me confused either with the other thief that joined me for the last hour or so after my necro friend left. I 1v1ed or 1vXed every person in there from that GS ranger, all the mesmers, the guardians, and the warriors.

Your efforts to defend yourself and your guild are as a terrible as the performance in the puzzle. You have nothing more than LOLYOUREFUGEDASATHIEF. Terrible.

I was not with the 9 below, because I was at the top watching. And that screenshot you have, merely shows 9 people infront of you, I don’t see any dead bodies, and if you killed so many, wouldn’t we have came at you at the spawn? I know what I saw, and you know what you did, just a thief running around from the dome area, to the spawn point. Paint a beautiful picture of yourself all you want, it only makes you look silly. Btw, I main a thief, I really LMAO when you used the SR in the middle of no where and ran away from a hopeless guardian.

Oh well, like I said, if it makes you feel good doing up a story, good for ya

Hey, Jakob, this guy can take on 10 of us, if you looking for a challenge, this is one for you

You really are that dense aren’t you? That group did come from the spawn point. Shortly after I respawned from my one death, my friend and I picked off a few random SBI and CD. At that point that group that initially killed me ended up at the spawn. The mesmer’s pulled us down and it ended up with you guys killing my friend and me getting away. This fight happened down the first set of stairs from the spawn. At which point, I killed a few randoms that managed to separate themselves looking for me while that large group sat and waited for a port. That’s where the SS came in.

By the way, I only roamed around the dome area because my friend got pulled off the edge by temporal curtain near the fire trap at the end. I jumped down to assist. With how many of you there were running around, making it back to the traps would have been a waste of time. I am really glad that you called your guardian hopeless though. I couldn’t help but think the same thing as I rez’d the necro I was originally with twice under his feet.

What I don’t understand is how you automatically attribute me using stealth as running. I don’t write in a diary each time I use SR and why, but like I said before, I only use it when I need it so it was more than likely to allow me to reset myself. It doesn’t matter though, really. At some point you probably died to me, and based on who seemed the most adamant on killing me I’d place my bets on you being that kittenty ranger. Could be wrong though.

And who is this Jakob guy that is so famous? I haven’t heard of him on the forums, in game, or anywhere for that matter and I played your server for over a month straight and roamed everyday. So famous he has to be proclaimed by some other nobody from a nobody server. Jakob that one famous “Crystal Desert Invader.”

Still awful.

Marquiz.7625:

Mordecai.6318:

Marquiz.7625:

Mordecai.6318:

All of the CD currently in the jumping puzzle are quite possibly the worst players I’ve ever seen. 3 hours, a 6v1, and a 10v2 and you finally manged to kill me.

Well, at any one point there was only like 3 people on you, and you didnt even try to engage them, ran so far so fast. I’m sure our famous roamer Jakob would have been more aggressive. Funny how when it comes to the forum, suddenly 3 people will become 10. Well, anything that makes you happy, good for ya.

I posted a screenshot of 9 people, 8 of which were from your guild. The only reason that screenshot didn’t contain 10 is because not everybody made it there for the port. They were killed.

I also never ran from any fight. Evaded a bit? Sure. However, there were multiple instances where I got knocked off of some of the cliff edges and didnt die because of the reduced fall damage trait. It more than likely appeared that I was running somewhere because when I became visible again I had some ground to make up before I could engage.

And insulting a thief for “running” just shows me you clearly have no understanding of the thief class and are reaching for responses. The entire class was formulated to hit/run. Good players know when to disengage and know when the odds are too much. Based on the 40 or so kills/downs I got in that 3 hour time period compared to my 1 death, I would say I did that pretty well.

Yea right, you sure made pretty story with a screen shot. I was at the top watching people chasing you for a while, and all you did was run and run.

And as for insulting a thief? I came for you alone once and you used SR when I haven’t even touched you yet. I stood there all alone for a while, with nobody near, waiting for a backstab to come, but it never came, wonder why… After that, I got bored and just went off.

That screenshot validates infinitely more of what I said that any of your terrible attempts to save face. You just admitted to not even being apart of that group in the screenshot making it at least 9 from your guild alone, not 3 as mentioned earlier. I must be lying though.

Also, I never refuge unless I absolutely have to. So I was more than likely low on initiative or needed that stealth to regen from something. The majority of the refuge’s were trying to res the necro I was originally with for the first 40 minutes or so. Don’t get me confused either with the other thief that joined me for the last hour or so after my necro friend left. I 1v1ed or 1vXed every person in there from that GS ranger, all the mesmers, the guardians, and the warriors.

Your efforts to defend yourself and your guild are as a terrible as the performance in the puzzle. You have nothing more than LOLYOUREFUGEDASATHIEF. Terrible.

another one of these….

are we to make a thread everytime an axe warrior hits a 15k+ eviscerate?

Marquiz.7625:

Mordecai.6318:

All of the CD currently in the jumping puzzle are quite possibly the worst players I’ve ever seen. 3 hours, a 6v1, and a 10v2 and you finally manged to kill me.

Well, at any one point there was only like 3 people on you, and you didnt even try to engage them, ran so far so fast. I’m sure our famous roamer Jakob would have been more aggressive. Funny how when it comes to the forum, suddenly 3 people will become 10. Well, anything that makes you happy, good for ya.

I posted a screenshot of 9 people, 8 of which were from your guild. The only reason that screenshot didn’t contain 10 is because not everybody made it there for the port. They were killed.

I also never ran from any fight. Evaded a bit? Sure. However, there were multiple instances where I got knocked off of some of the cliff edges and didnt die because of the reduced fall damage trait. It more than likely appeared that I was running somewhere because when I became visible again I had some ground to make up before I could engage.

And insulting a thief for “running” just shows me you clearly have no understanding of the thief class and are reaching for responses. The entire class was formulated to hit/run. Good players know when to disengage and know when the odds are too much. Based on the 40 or so kills/downs I got in that 3 hour time period compared to my 1 death, I would say I did that pretty well.

Sayne.5209:

Mordecai.6318:

Grieve.1432:

Mordecai.6318:

All of the CD currently in the jumping puzzle are quite possibly the worst players I’ve ever seen. 3 hours, a 6v1, and a 10v2 and you finally manged to kill me.

They could just be silly little PvErs that don’t know better. Just a thought since Anet decided to place an Achievement at the end of the EBJP, which was a cruel joke for the PvErs.

I thought that initially until I saw their WvW ranks. Most of them are 40+. Almost all of them were from the same guild and based on the use of traps looked somewhat familiar with the puzzle. The past 3 hours have been quite comical.

Ah now I see why, you are a dagger pistol thief. You should be embarrassed that you even died.

It took 3 hours. Nobody is invincible. Reach harder.

JakobGW.5730:

Mordecai.6318:

Waffler.1257:

Mordecai.6318:

Grieve.1432:

Mordecai.6318:

All of the CD currently in the jumping puzzle are quite possibly the worst players I’ve ever seen. 3 hours, a 6v1, and a 10v2 and you finally manged to kill me.

They could just be silly little PvErs that don’t know better. Just a thought since Anet decided to place an Achievement at the end of the EBJP, which was a cruel joke for the PvErs.

I thought that initially until I saw their WvW ranks. Most of them are 40+. Almost all of them were from the same guild and based on the use of traps looked somewhat familiar with the puzzle. The past 3 hours have been quite comical.

A d/p thief huh? Tell me more about how hard it is to avoid being killed please.

When 10 people can’t do it while camping my teammates corpse with traps and AoE’s while I res him, I find that quite pathetic. 3 hours of that.

Wait. You spent 3 hours trying to res a teammate in the JP? I’d say you were trolled, and trolled very, very hard.

bah! You got me!

Waffler.1257:

Mordecai.6318:

Grieve.1432:

Mordecai.6318:

All of the CD currently in the jumping puzzle are quite possibly the worst players I’ve ever seen. 3 hours, a 6v1, and a 10v2 and you finally manged to kill me.

They could just be silly little PvErs that don’t know better. Just a thought since Anet decided to place an Achievement at the end of the EBJP, which was a cruel joke for the PvErs.

I thought that initially until I saw their WvW ranks. Most of them are 40+. Almost all of them were from the same guild and based on the use of traps looked somewhat familiar with the puzzle. The past 3 hours have been quite comical.

A d/p thief huh? Tell me more about how hard it is to avoid being killed please.

When 10 people can’t do it while camping my teammates corpse with traps and AoE’s while I res him, I find that quite pathetic. 3 hours of that.

Grieve.1432:

Mordecai.6318:

All of the CD currently in the jumping puzzle are quite possibly the worst players I’ve ever seen. 3 hours, a 6v1, and a 10v2 and you finally manged to kill me.

They could just be silly little PvErs that don’t know better. Just a thought since Anet decided to place an Achievement at the end of the EBJP, which was a cruel joke for the PvErs.

I thought that initially until I saw their WvW ranks. Most of them are 40+. Almost all of them were from the same guild and based on the use of traps looked somewhat familiar with the puzzle. The past 3 hours have been quite comical.

All of the CD currently in the jumping puzzle are quite possibly the worst players I’ve ever seen. 3 hours, a 6v1, and a 10v2 and you finally manged to kill me.

I will never understand why a new thread like this pops up once a week. I am getting so sick of looking for meaningful threads in my favorite profession’s forum only to find the same banter over and over.

Coming to the thief specific forum to complain about thieves is ridiculous. You are never going to get anyone on your side.

-The entire class does not need to be nerfed because you died in a 1v1.
-The entire class does not need to be nerfed because you’ve never learned to counter it.
-The entire class does not need to be nerfed because of your inability to min/max a build properly.
-The entire class does not need to be nerfed because of your inability to preemptively dodge/evade/block/invuln or have any understanding of thief stealth timers to assist in those processes.
-The entire class does not need to be nerfed because you cannot adapt, have no situational awareness, and don’t learn from previous engagements.

Has anyone ever considered that a thief (in zerg or small group scenario) when stealthed isn’t contributing anything to his/her team? If the thief is forced to run away (which they almost always are at some point) then that time spent in stealth is time wasted. That could be 12 or more seconds of time that a thief is spent waiting on regen,cleansing conditions and NOT doing damage, not rallying people, or any number of productive things it COULD have been contributing.

Stealth can be a really frustrating mechanic and I’m sorry to be a broken record, but the vast majority of these stupid threads really are L2P issues. Get over yourselves.

John Widdin.9618:

Mordecai.6318:

John Widdin.9618:

Mordecai.6318:

lol @ all the maguuma that got steamrolled out of the JP when it wasnt 30v4. Easily the worst server.

….and those who couldnt kill me in a 1v7 in the JP.

grats. you took a screenshot after the 30+ of your server took dirtnaps for 20 minutes.
sorry for returning the favor. still awful.

oh and its not a lie. I have it recorded.

12 actually. If you can lie, I’m allowed too as well.

Feel free to post it.

I ran the entire puzzle 3 times. You had more than 12 at the entrance alone. 7 in the dome with the Mob traps and a variety of others scattered between the dome to the end. We brought even numbers and you got stomped.

Still terrible.

John Widdin.9618:

Mordecai.6318:

lol @ all the maguuma that got steamrolled out of the JP when it wasnt 30v4. Easily the worst server.

….and those who couldnt kill me in a 1v7 in the JP.

grats. you took a screenshot after the 30+ of your server took dirtnaps for 20 minutes.
sorry for returning the favor. still awful.

oh and its not a lie. I have it recorded.

lol @ all the maguuma that got steamrolled out of the JP when it wasnt 30v4. Easily the worst server.

….and those who couldnt kill me in a 1v7 in the JP.

Looks like another week to farm for my legendary.

yes
/15charrrrrrrrr

Sorry to the groups of 10 EB/DB people I wipe by myself in the jumping puzzle last night. See you again tonight.

Anwar.2018:

Ahhh so the hardcore elitists are happy! Good for them, bad for everyone else…. wonder how many normal and casual players they lose over this?

So hardcore and elite that I’m fractal 10.
The dungeon isn’t hard.
Good day.

its not hard.

/15char

I agree. I got flustered a bit, but it was certainly more entertaining than those solo instances that took 5 minutes.

Embrace The Bold.7619:

Just went with another group a war a guard a thief and 2 eles still couldn’t finish the last boss. I know how to do it yet every time the group always dies because we cant get her to stay in aoes. I feel like we should be allowed to at least cripple or chiller her.

you can. i immobilized her in the fields.

2 second delay on everything I do, every week. Looks like reset night is no longer worth playing.

Sovereign.1093:

MomentofWeakness.1246:

SoR was the most exciting server I ever played. Although I am a new TC player, I can tell you I learned more fighting them than I have learned my entire WvW experience. I will take losing to them more often if we get fights like we did last week. It helped me step up my play because of the high tempo that SoR plays at. Special thanks to [FEAR], [TSYM], [IRON], and [HELIOZ] for the tough fights!

To show you what I mean you can watch these:

[RE] Rethesis vs Sanctum of Rall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek28C8758P0

[RE] Rethesis & [CERN] vs Sanctum of Rall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbfqGv3-E-s

Note: We unfortunately didn’t get all the fights here on the second video from the SoR Guilds vs. TC Guilds matchup on SoS BL. Us on TC lost the first 2, took 1, lost 1 more, then won the next 5.

Nice, The HOST OST. >3< hmmm

OST.The Host – Radioactive – Imagine Dragons

Good job RE and CERN. Two guilds worth emulating.

RE worth emulating? ROLFME

I cant even believe someone is complaining about this…

I have 7 and it says I have 5. From what I’ve read the dragon ball ones might be bugged.

People don’t want to learn how to counter it and stealth have always been called OP in every single MMO that implemented it

false

Any open dwayna’s?

Bannok.3152:

Again, hogwash, more then half of us recalled out, headed to Speldan and wiped a far larger zerg. You Fate guys been a doormat all night.

Are you talking about the doormat to SM?