Guild Wars 2

Yeah, it’s a terrible system.

But, it’s better than it used to be, you used to have the bag drop at the body not at your location.

I can’t even imagine why this hasn’t been fixed/changed yet.

nope. Welcome to the Mystic Toilet.

I Hear tell there’s FREE TRANSFERS TO PLACES THAT DON’T HAVE Q’s…

I know right? WTKitten? REALLY?

arka.8590:

Walk over to the other vendor = profit.

Seriously LOL’d

Also make sure you click on each of the “bag” tabs on the left side of each vendor’s window. I am geared already so I didn’t actually check if they had extra tabs or not.

Spock.7412:

Ethose.5694 no one cares about your opinion.

The same could be said for yours.

I actually agree with Ethose, too many people just complain to expel air nowadays.

Sureshot.6725:

It is an additional one second plus the culling fix. How about we actually see how these two changes combined actually play out before complaining it is not enough?

Amen brutha, akittenmen.

Give it some time. Lets see how it pans out.

Daendur.2357:

Hengis.5417:

http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/wvw-interview-habib-loew-mike-ferguson-matt-witter

Quote:

GW2Hub: Does this extend to Ascended items?

Mike Ferguson: We don’t have it in for this particular build, but it is definitely on our list of things we want to add to it, it’s just that we encounter some issues getting it into this particular build.

I think ppl have a lot of BoH stocked. Anet put in some new equip so ppl will start to spend badges and in one of the next builds ascended will come.

That makes some sense. Deplete the market prior to putting out the really cool stuff.

What’s really sad is the party chat

People will ALWAYS find something to whine about.

So, 3-4 minutes.

On clovers: I don’t know if this is accurate but, I went to the MF once per day, did the 10 recipe each time ONCE PER DAY. And got clovers every time. May be something to try?

Minion of Vey.4398:

Traversing large amounts of extra empty space doesn’t really sound like it would increase the quality of gameplay to me.

If you want you can simulate having a larger WvW zone. When you’re running from one tower to another, every 5 seconds just stop and stand still for 5 seconds, repeat. If that’s not thrilling enough for you stand still for however many extra seconds it takes for you to start liking it.

It’s not about “traversing” it’s about having more open ground fights instead of PvD/static defend/attack.

But thanks for your great ideas… I can almost hear you giggling while you typed them.

I would love to see the maps larger. EB is like urban warfare… towers, keeps, etc are WAY too close together. Even the BLs are pretty tight with the longest run to a keep going to be what? 30 seconds? Way too small.

Zumy.6318:

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

Or maybe I’m just soft and not a hardcore archduelist like yourself and should keep my filthy peasant zergling mouth shut. :vvvvvvvv)

Pretty much this.

He walked into that one.

Mesmers should have as many clones as they can spam!!

obastable.5231:

hrmm. methinks if we push the right buttons nsps infighting will put them in t8 without much hard work from either hod or gom.

I think you may be right.

Pretty stupid.

That wasn’t a “fight club” I’m pretty sure they just ran into each other and were dueling.

Cause that would just about the dumbest spot fo have a fight club.

Let the trolling and counter trolling commense!

Sifu.6527:

Musty.3148:

Sifu.6527:

Musty.3148:

Bern.9613:

You seem to forget the things that ANet can’t nerf. The power of conviction and the ability to adapt and overcome. Those that play thief are experts at it. .

Oh, Em Gee…

No, they aren’t, you see, every Tom, Kitten, and Harry that wanted to be a WvW “expert” picked the Thief because it is easymode. I’ll say it again, I have an 80 Thief that I quit becuase it’s facerollingly easymode.

There may be a “power of conviction” from a certain subset of the thief playerbase… But I’m here to tell you the overwhelming majority will kitten quit their thiefs when they find they don’t suddenly become Chuck Kitten Norris when they switch to that toon.

I love how you’re like thief is easymode. I quit that class because it is so easy to faceroll. But then proceed to roll 3 other OP classes; Guardian, Ele, and Mesmer.

Yeah, cause on opening day I knew what all the OP classes were…

The Thief was my 3rd toon of those.

And My warrior is 73 (in process), but I don’t like pet classes so no Ranger or Necro for me, don’t like the playstyle of the Engi… that leaves… oh wait.

EDIT: yeah, and if I happen to have 4 of the most OP classes and say that the Thief is WAAAAY worse than all the others, you should probably think I know how it really is. just sayin’.

I made that comment because you said you quit because thief is so easymode to faceroll. I assume you want to play a class that isn’t easymode and gives you a challenge. I just find it funny you only play OP classes and it contradict the point you’re trying to make. That’s all.

Gotcha,

And I replied with my reasons for playing those classes. 1)Don’t like pet AI (NO game has gotten it right) and 2)I just can’t seem to enjoy the Engi (but I did try to). That leaves only the other classes I have played.

You are a staunch (to say the very least) supporter of the thief class so i expect you to say whatever you can to invalidate the claims of others, I get it, honest, I do.

holska.4127:

Bern.9613:

Sorry about the format. I have no idea how to quote other posts :-)

On the bottom right side of every post there’s some action buttons, the most left one is a bent arrow pointed left.
Sometimes it doesn’t show up for some reason, in that case you can copy/paste the post you want to quote and enclose it between tags !quote=UsernameHere] and !/quote]
Note that I replaced the left [ with an ! because else you wouldn’t be able to read it because then I would’ve quote a user called UsernameHere

+1’d you for a helpful post on an interwebz forum!

Most of us are just here to argue, prove points, and/or troll lol

Sifu.6527:

Musty.3148:

Bern.9613:

You seem to forget the things that ANet can’t nerf. The power of conviction and the ability to adapt and overcome. Those that play thief are experts at it. .

Oh, Em Gee…

No, they aren’t, you see, every Tom, Kitten, and Harry that wanted to be a WvW “expert” picked the Thief because it is easymode. I’ll say it again, I have an 80 Thief that I quit becuase it’s facerollingly easymode.

There may be a “power of conviction” from a certain subset of the thief playerbase… But I’m here to tell you the overwhelming majority will kitten quit their thiefs when they find they don’t suddenly become Chuck Kitten Norris when they switch to that toon.

I love how you’re like thief is easymode. I quit that class because it is so easy to faceroll. But then proceed to roll 3 other OP classes; Guardian, Ele, and Mesmer.

Yeah, cause on opening day I knew what all the OP classes were…

The Thief was my 3rd toon of those.

And My warrior is 73 (in process), but I don’t like pet classes so no Ranger or Necro for me, don’t like the playstyle of the Engi… that leaves… oh wait.

EDIT: yeah, and if I happen to have 4 of the most OP classes and say that the Thief is WAAAAY worse than all the others, you should probably think I know how it really is. just sayin’.

Bern.9613:

You seem to forget the things that ANet can’t nerf. The power of conviction and the ability to adapt and overcome. Those that play thief are experts at it. .

Oh, Em Gee…

No, they aren’t, you see, every Tom, Kitten, and Harry that wanted to be a WvW “expert” picked the Thief because it is easymode. I’ll say it again, I have an 80 Thief that I quit becuase it’s facerollingly easymode.

There may be a “power of conviction” from a certain subset of the thief playerbase… But I’m here to tell you the overwhelming majority will kitten quit their thiefs when they find they don’t suddenly become Chuck Kitten Norris when they switch to that toon.

lol, I sent him a PM about the setting, I wasn’t sure if he was trolling or not. Guess not

Even as fail as Warhammer is/was it’s warband system was Waaaaay better than this one.

I agree about the PvE mob CC abilities, that should not be there. Period.

I’M SO FURIOUS!!!

MY 1995 HONDA CIVIC KEEPS BREAKING DOWN WHEN I TRY TO DRIVE 170mph!~!!@#

FIX IT!

Seriously though… upgrade

Does anyone ever READ the boards before posting anymore?

Yeah, constant dissconnects for me, couldn’t even get in BGs for more than 10 seconds. And I never have had connection issues.

Kardiamond.6952:

People also see a lot of thief in WvW

No they don’t “see” them at all.

yuck yuck yuck.

I know… terrible.

Nope, not givin up the ol’ day job.

Ouch…

moar chars

I’m glad we have all these experts to tell us what’s gonna happen/not happen…

On a game they didn’t program
On a system they didn’t build
On servers they didn’t install

I have a programming degree and I’m not arrogant enough to assume what is/is not going to happen here.

Laika.8795:

So the fact that they have stated that they are allowing client-side culling toggling in March’s update hasn’t even come up yet, why?

I’m going to armchair quarterback a second and make a stab at this.

They are going to turn off culling in March. I am gonna guess that this is going to be a drastic increase in lag for some players depending on system specs. I think what they are trying to do is allow people to “self cull” to achieve a balance between lag and ability to see.

Just my guess at the reason for it.

Looks promising, I’m surprised he said “turn off Culling completely” I wasn’t sure they would try that.

Pendragon.8735:

Gorefiend.9675:

Jeknar.6184:

Strange… I recall EBay being alive at least until they got a beating once they reached T4 two weeks ago… People on there already gave up?

OP is either looking for large zerg fights or plays at an off hour timezone.

Looks more like his team is in 3rd place, and probably experiencing the usual fairfeather flight from the match when it looks decided.

I think its a common problem anywhere past tier 1 or 2. Matches are probably too long.

It would be interesting, and I think make for more compelling matches, if they had 2 matchups each week. One 3 day one for the weekend, and one 5 day one for the weekdays.

HEY! How the hell did YOU get an extra day a week?? I want one too!

Or, addition is hard yo!
:D

oZii.2864:

Musty.3148:

Magiofdeath.2745:

Well, this is definitely a different post – hearing about the experience from the other side (the thief side). Regardless, this will end up in linksville just like the other thief post. I agree with your post though.

Hell, I’ve been saying this for months, I stopped playing my 80 thief because it’s an imbarassingly easy class to curbstomp people with. Any of you kids playing them should be imbarrassed for picking and continuing to play such an imbarrassingly OP class.

I can stealth into a zerg, DPS someone down, restealth, stomp and SB out in about 5 seconds without taking 1 damage. I did it all the time, literally.

If I get into a fight and start getting wrecked, Just TP/SB/Stealth out, reset the fight, go back in and curbstomp the poor fool(s) that used all their cooldowns to try to kill me.

Anyone that is Pro-stealth as is is really just kidding themselves. It’s way out of whack probably because of the culling. But they really need to make a short term fix until they can get culling fixed or it’s going to cost a lot of players.

Well then you curb stomped someone not good if they blew all the cooldowns to kill you. Also if you leave combat they leave combat so they regen just like you. Anybody with half decent knowledge knows that a burst thief flow chart is if you don’t get a insta kill, Heal or shadow refuge and or reset. If they stand around waiting on you to come back thats their fault.

Also why is it a problem if a thief can get kills in a zerg or you downed 1 person out of say 15 attacking a keep all thats gonna happen is the people will rez him for his daily. Its not like a thief is great at AOE outside of short bow. I am pretty sure when you are zerg killing the last classes picked are guardians. I rather have a rifle warrior blasting people on top of the keep and a thief down below distracting and causing panic. Than a thief up top shooting slow cluster bombs and a warrior at the bottom trying to kill people though the warrior can do both really well.

Killing 1 person in a zerg isn’t going to stop the zerg from taking a keep. A warrior with fall reduction can jump down knocking people away bull rush someone and hb an unsuspecting person and still make it back inside. Happens all the time.

If they stand around? There isn’t a class that can get away! The mobility allows you to catch ANYONE that runs, including Eles.

And a “reset” really is only a few seconds, I’m back in as soon as Init is back. They have 40 second cooldowns. Regenerating health is a non-issue, I don’t CARE if they regen, I’m gonna get it back down in 5 seconds.

I’ll give you the point that in a zerg you are not as effective as say a bunker ele, guardian, etc. But that isn’t what they are made for and it isn’t the point. I only used the zerg example to say I wouldn’t take ANY damage, at all, not one point. In short if you’re running a thief in a zerg (imo) you’re doing it wrong.

Magiofdeath.2745:

Well, this is definitely a different post – hearing about the experience from the other side (the thief side). Regardless, this will end up in linksville just like the other thief post. I agree with your post though.

Hell, I’ve been saying this for months, I stopped playing my 80 thief because it’s an imbarassingly easy class to curbstomp people with. Any of you kids playing them should be imbarrassed for picking and continuing to play such an imbarrassingly OP class.

I can stealth into a zerg, DPS someone down, restealth, stomp and SB out in about 5 seconds without taking 1 damage. I did it all the time, literally.

If I get into a fight and start getting wrecked, Just TP/SB/Stealth out, reset the fight, go back in and curbstomp the poor fool(s) that used all their cooldowns to try to kill me.

Anyone that is Pro-stealth as is is really just kidding themselves. It’s way out of whack probably because of the culling. But they really need to make a short term fix until they can get culling fixed or it’s going to cost a lot of players.

+1 for this change. Less zerg oriented more small team oriented.

Now get rid of (change) downed state and AOE cap(increase) and I’ll be a happy camper.

Well then, It must have something to do with a tear in the space time continiuum…

I’d check your attic for dudes with phasers. Don’t worry, you can easily kill the ones in red shirts, just don’t attack the ones with yellow shirts they can one shot you.

What you’re saying happened in that vid is not possible. I think this is just a bad troll now.

Sorry for fail quoting, for some reason the board won’t let me quote or even edit.

[quote Once.4536]

Dark Aidget.3879:

Once.4536:

The same video submitted to Tech support. This what I see on my screen!!

Well, it’s certainly weird the way the thief skill popped up when the loot dropped. But it doesn’t explain why your etiquette and protocol skills were nerfed so badly.

It’s not a thief skill It is a charge from
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil_of_Sanctuary
And lets see how much etiquette you have when you are taking videos of your normal gameplay that was asked for by tech support and all you get is whisper form people Stop hacking stop hacking stop hacking!! It is BS[/quote Once.4536]

The one thing about that video that I don’t understand is this:

Everyone ELSE is also moving at light speed, that isn’t possible, the servers would have to “make up” movement for everything…

I’m not sure if I’m making sense but, If I am standing in the world and I move at X speed. And you are standing in the world and move at Xx3 speed. I would STILL move X speed (on both screens), no amount of server side buggyness could MAKE me move where I wasn’t (or where I didn’t imput to move to). If it did then on my screen I would ALSO be moving at Xx3 speed.

I’ll reserve judgement for now, but it doesn’t wash. That video looked like you just turned up the speed (on your playback recording) as you ported into WvW (even the “loading” whirly sped up).

D W.5179:

Musty.3148:

Or about 30% of SF could transfer to the other T8 servers and make it the most fun balanced tier of all of them…

Just thinkin’.

But nah, not gonna happen because they really LIKE it the way it is imho.

D W.5179:

How does this possibly mean I really “LIKE” the current match-up?

I’d still really like to hear how you come to this conclusion, as a lot of my guild isn’t even playing WvW right now and instead are leveling alts or running dungeons because this match-up is stale and boring.
So I’d love to know how you draw the conclusion that we like the way this match-up sits, as I suspect this is just an example of the passive aggressive BS I’ve mentioned.

Ok, so I come to this conclusion by reading and comprehending the information in said reading.

Or are you saying you don’t outnumber the other servers by ~2 or 3 to 1?

Well, if you don’t like the matchup, why don’t you switch? I mean it’s not like it’s a lot of gold or anything? The evidence points to a certain conclusion. Also, you’re saying “your guild” I totally get that maybe you’re not out there handing the other servers their kittens day in and day out… but someone is.

If you don’t like the matchup, change it. That was my point, All passive aggressive kitten aside. But I doubt it will happen, that’s not P/A, it’s a logical conclusion using basic human nature as a construct.

Best Wishes, I’m actually thinking about transfering to one of those servers if I can get my buddys to go as well. We’ll see.

I just hate seeing people get the crap kicked out of them all day, then the guys doing it take some high road stance like, “it’s not my fault! Blame someone else!”. I wish they could fix it on all tiers, but they can’t. So it’s up to the players to do it. So do it.

Or about 30% of SF could transfer to the other T8 servers and make it the most fun balanced tier of all of them…

Just thinkin’.

But nah, not gonna happen because they really LIKE it the way it is imho.

KensaiZen.3740:

Its all about bottom tier for roaming. Even zergs aren’t that much bigger than the 5 man team lol

I’ve been thinking the same, wondering if the small man is alive and well on servers where they just don’t have the population for zergballing.

And, bump!

I like the idea, I’m an oldschool emain roamer and nothing beats the feeling you get when you’re panning and you see another group to your left or right. The call goes out and the great clash starts.

I think if people are sufficiently motivated to maintain the small group mentality they will make it happen. Hell, I’d pay for a transfer for all my guys to get them to a server(tier) that is making this happen on a daily basis. I’ve even considered moving to AR/BP just so we could fight some of the small man groups on our server.

So, in short, make it happen! Get your small mans to AR/BP/NSP (probably one of the most stable tiers) and lets kick each other’s faces in!

A couple of random notes just to answer some posts and to just be realistic…

• Fight clubs are NOT the same, I don’t care what anyone says. Ready, Set, Go! Is not the same as, for example, tracking a small man and using terrain to flank them giving your team the initial upper hand or taking a supply point to lay an ambush.
• The maps are really too small, I wish they would make them double the size, the small size really makes roaming much more difficult.
• It’s still possible (probable eventually) that one server will change at some point in time and people would have to move again to keep the same rivalrys.
• I wish ANet would stop promoting zerg warfare, I see their reasoning, but it’s pretty lobsided at this point in the game. (Downed State, AOE cap, etc.)

Last note, if your group is good and you want to test it, I suggest trying out AR/BP and fighting the small mans from NSP. Solo, Duo, 5 man, whatever ya got bring it!

VOLKON.1290:

Zumy.6318:

This was used in Warhammer and chat sure doesnt cause any lag.

Really? How do we know this isn’t a contributing factor?

You dug up a 2 year old post from a MAC user to discuss lag problems? Wow that’s a HUGE stretch.

Also warhammer’s “chat servers” are not the same as the game servers. They run independantly, I know this from playing it, and the chat servers could/would go down but you could still play the game.

I totally support the idea of Kill spam w/location and names. As well as Guild claim tags on keeps/towers/etc that you can hover over on the map so you know what’s claimed.

Gotta love the SF guys that are sooooo great they can win when outmanning their opponents 4-1 everywhere.

Grow some balls and transfer to those other two servers.

Ferum Flamebender.5910:

Howcome?! Where is this lack of obedience coming from?!

While I understand what you’re saying, and can see where it’s frustrating.

Where do you get off using the term “obedience”? I hope english is a second language and that wording is just a missuse.

This is a game, no one needs to be subordinate to anyone else, no one needs to obey someone else. If you try to lead and you’re doing a good job people will follow, if you want people to follow your orders and be obedient, they will avoid you like a bad case of crabs.

Like others said, “you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar.” Be fun, be nice, lead well then people will follow.

You’re gonna get wrecked by 80s in exotics.

Keep your gear as up to your level as possible. Every 10 levels get a new max set.

Once you get 80 you can get gear from:
Crafting
Auction House
Dungeons
Karma in Orr zones
Drops
WvWvW

Your first char will take the longest to gear in exotics, probably a week or two. The second toon you should be able to do in 10 minutes.

This is my experience, yours may vary.

EDIT: feel free to PM me any questions you think are “too newbish” to post here. No question is dumb except the one you don’t ask.

EDIT EDIT: Don’t forget gems and such in armor/weapons and food.

Mesmer? Try f4 stomp.

Mezri.5890:

It’s not even on topic to fight each other. Perhaps we should all jump in a voice chat program and all have a nice yell at each other and then start working together against the two other servers we should have been focusing all along?

I can’t even imagine how that would go…

LOL

jkctmc.8754:

@Toble
I could go on, and on about the benefits of smaller groups, and solo players, but I know you understand. I wouldn’t bust PAXA chops for doing what they do. Instead, try to be nice to them, and ask them once in awhile to put themselves at a point between your zerg, and the enemy, or ask them once in awhile to go light up a tower, so you can move in on a keep once defenders have gone to the tower.

Learn to utilize all the tools available to you.

You Sir just threw a 40 yard touchdown from outside the pocket.

Well said.

Utilize all of the tools available to you. I would GLADLY put myself in harms way to cut off re-enforcements heading to a keep defence/take if asked. (which we already do without being asked, but no one ever knows LOL) In DAoC our group would, when asked, stop “roaming Emain” and settle in roaming around keep takes to run guarding actions while the keep was being taken. Good for us (RPS) good for them (their backs were covered)

My little team kills every Yak and takes every camp, just so the enemy has to come and take it back giving the people that like “large groups” a tad bit more time and leeway to do what they like to do (and what they are better at than we are).

The only useless people in WvWvW are Jump Puzzle kittens and people farming mats. (imho)