Guild Wars 2

ugrakarma.9416:

Iason Evan.3806:

Nausicca.6038:

I spend most of my time in old Tyria maps. New maps are pretty but they don’t have the variety of wood/ore I need to make gold.
And if I want to pew pew things, I chose Orr or SW over any HoT map. This is the first MMO where I never go to the xpac areas to farm things :/

^This is the prevailing theme of players who bought HoT in my guild. Well it was when they were all still playing. Everyone said HoT was gorgeous and it was fun. It had no long term appeal though. Long term is farming mats and doing events over and over that you find enjoyable. HoT is definitely lacking in that area for some people. Also, dungeons are gone in terms of replayability. Same for Fractals. We’ll see what happens today to rectify them being garbage for the last two months as a long term play option.

One raid, 4 maps and a Fractal and Dungeon Nerf over the last 2 months with nothing added the previous 10+ months prior to the x-pac. If you can’t see why some people would be disgruntled by that it can’t be helped. I can understand why people are content with HoT, but those people should be understanding of why people aren’t.

lol. Tarir farm completely put Silverwastes in the pocket. Theres even a achievment “save golden city 100 times”. in the first 5 times i cant believe in the insanely gold u make here.

Time you need to finish AB meta (or find a decent map than can actualy complete it), I can farm enough mats to make t7 mats and get20 gold, or farm 2x SW ( and get the needed shovels for guild halls upgrade). A couple of days ago, I was gathering wood in Malchor’s Leap, helped killing Lyssa and got All Seeing. Then I jumped in wvw and got Chaos Gun from a random daredevil.
Tell me again how farming HoT is good for my wallet.

I spend most of my time in old Tyria maps. New maps are pretty but they don’t have the variety of wood/ore I need to make gold.
And if I want to pew pew things, I chose Orr or SW over any HoT map. This is the first MMO where I never go to the xpac areas to farm things :/

Levetty.1279:

Nausicca.6038:

Levetty.1279:

You aren’t going to make the game worse for your paying customers just to appease a minority of players, who don’t want to learn how to play the game, when you can easily split the changes right?

Huhuhu, good try

Why should this skill be nerfed in PvE?

Who cares? You can afk111111spam and still win in pve. Actualy, chronobunkers and mallyx rev are making ESL pro league beyond boring to watch. They need to do something.

Levetty.1279:

You aren’t going to make the game worse for your paying customers just to appease a minority of players, who don’t want to learn how to play the game, when you can easily split the changes right?

Huhuhu, good try

Barbie Wars 2, Heart of Flesh.
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Killthehealersffs.8940:

1) 49 , as far as i remember ppl whinning
They didnt have anything to do , and they felt they where forced to join WvWvW zergs to lvl fast and enjoy the endgame

2) Dungeons are the fastest and dont have a DR

3) I hope Hulk dont sux balls and loose from every character 24/7

4)>_>
Powercreep helps new players to win in the tournamnets the old team or something …i dont know …

5)50% wanted Less Person vs Door (PvD) and more fights like it should be
50% wanted something to split the zergs (they whined for the stacking and huge blobs in the old maps where destroying any objective-tower like paper)

6) Dont look at me that , i am not a dungeon speed runner …
>_>

Wrong again. 1) it was 60, profession NPC was selling for 2 gold the grandmaster trait book. After launch, people were zerging in Orr ( Straits of Devastation, yes believe me) then moved to Cursed Shore for Plinx farming. Eotm wasn’t even there to ktrain and xptrain. It was a better system, I don’t remember people complaining about it, and we never asked for that kittenty NPE system, making classes like engineer a real chore to level.

Wrong for 2) SW was way better, especialy chest trains. Like raids, dungeons farmers were far from being a majority. Did Anet nerf SW with HoT? Nope. So why dungeons?

4) I don’t remember spvpers asking for a p2w mode, where elite spec are very unbalanced compared to vanilla. Players are begging for more balance patches, less queues, less premades vs solo Q, a better system to report afkers.

5) We, wvw’ers asked for less pve, less blobs, and no eotm 2.0 . What we got was more pve, eotm style new maps with a lot of dumb mechanics, pushing players to EB which is more than ever a blob fest, guild buffs gated behind pve grind, autoupgrades.

6) HC pve’ers got their shinies. 5% of the population. I’m happy for them.

MMORG.com can award any game they want, but saying HoT improved and polished vanilla GW2 is a pure lie.

WvW, dungeon rewards, pvp balance, leagues exploit, pvp stronghold temp removed because of exploits, Rev Hammer # 2 fest ruining GvG, vanilla vs elite spec balance, there’s still a lot of broken ( or totaly destroyed) things in HoT.

Kill people in WvW, they drop precursors.

Seriously, gathering and MF for t2-4 cloth/leather will give a lot of money.

Cyninja.2954:

If you want to misslead people into believing that they can slack off, fine. I’m done arguing in circles with such stupidity.

But you know, most adults are playing video games to slack off and relax after a hard working day. They don’t give a rat about your l33t skills.

If you want to prove yourself, you know, you could still participate in pvp leagues instead of insulting players here.

Vayne.8563:

That’s what makes it unique. I tried FF XIV and the grind to level there was crap. The quests were boring, and you did them in order. I gave up on those games long ago.

I think exactly the same about GW2. Hearts are really boring, grinding XP in EoTM ultra boring as well. I’m not leveling any new character unless I have a lvl 30 scroll + tomes. In my opinion, GW2 shines because of its combat system, and you can only fully experience it at 80 ( even worse now because you need to unlock the elite specs if you want to remain competitive).

We all have our own definition of grinding. For me, grinding = boring content. And I try to avoid it at all cost.

I want a #fitetier

Vayne.8563:

In other MMOs, the ones I played anyway, you don’t rotate dungeons to get gear. You only get the new gear in the new dungeons. It’s a very linear progression path.

It’s like the old dungeons in WOW. You don’t play them to get current gear. Most old dungeons in most games were abandoned, because level scaling doesn’t exist. You play the new stuff, you get the new gear.

Can a person in core Tyria get ascended gear without raiding? Sure they can.

So it’s different in this game.

When I played Rift, the progression was massively linear for BIS gear. Here, I can do pretty much anywhere to work on it.

You should give FF14 a try then. Old dungeons are part of the daily roulette ( you’re scaled to the dungeon level, which help new players to find groups for their low level content). Dungeons give 2 kind of tokens. One is unlimited and similar to the GW2 system. The other one is time gated and help you get your raid entry gear. You don’t have to make it like in GW2, you just need to play dungeons, get your two kind of tokens and you get your raid gear after a while.
You can get additional tokens with hunts ( open world pve), beast tribes dailies, casual raids ( 24 players), primals and pvp arenas. Yes even pvp arenas gives you pve tokens.
You can craft your gear as well, but it’s really expensive to slot materia, so it’s not for the casual gamer.

As you can see, GW2 isn’t unique at all.

Edit: For me, the biggest problem of GW2 pve is the stacking spam 1111 zerker meta. It’s boring, and has no real diversity. And unfortunatly, when you’re doing a boring task, it could feel like grinding ( and you’ll find this in any MMO, FF14 with its huge content has the same complains as GW2).

Vayne.8563:

It’s relevant to the discussion because it’s not like grind in other MMOs. Now, I played Rift and if I wanted to do dungeons at all, I couldn’t do them in the equivalent of greens and rares. Once you got to max level, you needed certain special stats which you could only get from doing dungeons and hoping to get them as random drops. That was the only path available. If you didn’t get the drop, or if the piece dropped and someone rolled higher than you, you were pretty much screwed. You had to run that exact same content again.

So rotating events in GW2 is playing the game but rotating dungeons in other MMOs is a grind?

Edit: I don’t consider GW2 grindy at all. I’ve done the miragent quest ( several times) in Aion back to 1.9 and the relic weapon in FF14 and even legendaries in GW2 aren’t that grindy. But I don’t understand how rotating the same 11111 events is actualy different than rotating dungeons in other games ( FF14 for example has a token system similar to GW2, so your gear is guaranted).

Hi Gaile,

Since you posted in PvE and PvP forums about future content or fixes ( which is great, thank you for this), can we except, wvw players, to see the same kind of posts about the future of our favorite mode soon?

Thank you.

Ven Zehn.6573:

And how many people actually change the stats on the legendary weaps? I’m pretty sure most people leave it as one stat lol. Some of my guildies completely forget they can swap stats.

I swap mine often, but I’m doing wvw solo/small group roaming alot and I enjoy having different builds. It’s funny that the only place on this game that could make a good use of legendary stats swaping is the only game mode where it’s impossible to get said legendary.
In the other hand, the 5% of the population who raid and use the zerker/viper meta will finaly have the option to swap between errrr… zerker and viper !

Vayne.8563:

Legendary gear has the same stats as ascended gear. /thread

And?? Legendary weapons too, and they aren’t gated behind raids.

I will stop spending $$$ until they start releasing info on their “major wvw overhaul”. I’m so tired of their secrets while my favorite game mode is slowly dying.
So yep, this is time to voice my opinion with my wallet. And it’s really sad.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Nausicca.6038:

Zypher.7609:

Ha reading some of the comments in this thread and people wonder why the devs do not post. Common human decency goes a long way in getting a response on a topic. If people would act a little more respectful with what they post maybe there would be more interaction. Until this happens I hope the devs ignore posting on here at all, keep it to reddit.

Reddit WvW overall mega thread in wvw sub forums just got deleted. This is how Anet communicates with their wvw community since launch. How do we wvw’ers are supposed to react?

If a thread gets deleted that’s the moderators, not the Devs. The devs don’t come on the forum to moderate. I didn’t read the thread but presumably there were posts that broke the forum rules sufficently that the mods deleted it. They do that on each forum, not just the WvW forum.

It wasn’t even a flaming thread. People were talking about the alliance system rumors, bringing interesting ideas, why it would or wouldn’t work etc… Then poof, no more. Not even a word. Nothing.
What are they trying to do exactly? Why don’t they moderate all the QQ threads in this sub forum as well? Or pvp sub forums? Or fractals/raids? There are a lot of useless threads here that have been filled with QQ for days and they didn’t even react.

So why this specific one ?

Zypher.7609:

Ha reading some of the comments in this thread and people wonder why the devs do not post. Common human decency goes a long way in getting a response on a topic. If people would act a little more respectful with what they post maybe there would be more interaction. Until this happens I hope the devs ignore posting on here at all, keep it to reddit.

Reddit WvW overall mega thread in wvw sub forums just got deleted. This is how Anet communicates with their wvw community since launch. How do we wvw’ers are supposed to react?

I log in, get my daily reward, press B : server is leading with 500 ppt because of dead matchup, press B again, log out.

Edit: sometimes, I chop wood too.

Vayne.8563:

Here, on the other hand, anyone can say what they want, even if it’s baseless, or even completely wrong. So yeah, I prefer reddit to here.

I’d love to see devs posting something on wvw sub forums. Like, really. When you need to post a request on reddit about legendary effects on engie kits to get an answer about wvw, you know there’s a communication problem somewhere.

Mine is Asura. Because asuramasterrace.

IntheCoconut.3497:

Nausicca.6038:

Spec: I unlocked scrapper, dragonhunter and druid. Have a lot of fun with scrapper and DH.

All in all, I only enjoy the new specs from HoT. Gliding could be amazing if it was added to the new wvw borderlands.

I am disappointed because I really want to see what a good hammer scrapper looks like. My friends all run kits still, even with the scrapper spec. Any good build ideas for DH?

And I hope they add gliding! Every time I go back to the original Tyria, I keep double-tapping my spacebar thinking I’ll glide away

I’m using kits as well. Tool kit and elixir gun in WvW, with rocket boots or elixir B if no zerg. Since the only active map in NA T4 is EB, I use a tanky setup ( mix of celestial and cavalier), so I can poke zergs and escape quite easily.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASnUUB9dhtbBmcBEqilJjieuz79Oc7SmwS8ZKgAA-TFCBABKqDwRlgkq+jXKPA4BAYmSsi2fghLAApA0TkF-w

If you’re looking for a kitless scrapper build, Ultratown is using a nice one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSujOZoNGGY

For DH ( wvw), I’m using a classic medi burst build with a GS/bow and trav runes, very close to Zodin’s one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8wUeVrjUUQ
You can use it in pve, it works very well with traps.

I hope it helps

Pretty sure that players who main rangers would love to be ignored by devs lol.

HoT story: I don’t know, I still need to finish it. But I don’t care at the same time because : The "revelation" at the end of Rata Novus part was ridiculous, it just killed it for me

Spec: I unlocked scrapper, dragonhunter and druid. Have a lot of fun with scrapper and DH.

Favorite HoT map and event : I rarely play in HoT, I find myself running Orr and doing temples or Teq a lot more when I need to pve. HoT maps meta are too long, fial too much for me to even want to waste my playtime there.

WvW, Fractals etc…: WvW is my favorite mode. HoT killed it. I was so excited to play the new spec but the new borderlands are dead. I do fractals from time to time, got a lot of ascended rings but nothing else. I like it better now, because it’s shorter. I don’t care about raids, or pvp.

What’s next?: I’m waiting for Anet to fix wvw. I don’t have high hopes tho.

All in all, I only enjoy the new specs from HoT. Gliding could be amazing if it was added to the new wvw borderlands. I don’t find HoT areas difficult, it’s just the same pve thing with more HP, which is boring. Core Tyria still gives the best rewards for the time invested.

loseridoit.2756:

Neural.1824:

eldrin.6471:

when the players stop spending money on this game they will listen and not before.

Exactly. Anet only cares about things that affect their bottom line.

Bug that gives players more loot than it’s supposed to? Fixed within hours.

Bug that robs players of loot they are supposed to receive? “We’re working on it…”

exploits has always been high priority for Anet to fix. Sometimes I kinda agree. It does feel like they are fixing exploits they made in every patch. while they keep leaving behind unintentional nerfs.

We all remember the “golem bug” during the “golem week” in wvw and how they adressed it…
Like they always did with wvw. They ignored us.

GreyWolf.8670:

Nausicca.6038:

Remember guys, it’s a MMO, A MMO !
If you want to get gold, find a group and run GROUP content such as dungeons… ermmwhat? Oh my bad, it’s GW2.
Take your axe and go chop wood.

Nope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mmorpg

I was just mocking people saying that you need a group to accomplish anything in this game. Actualy, you only need an axe and chop wood. Sell on TP, buy pretty weapons since cosmetics are the end game. Done. You beat the game.

Edit: HoT changed it, but after 3 years of “I can solo everything and get a legendary”, I can understand why people are mad at HoT being less “solo friendly”.

Hello Jaymee, may I suggest you to try out wvw? You can play the build you want whenever you want. Tank, healer, DPS, balanced, it’s up to you. WvW is actualy the only game mode that encourage players to try different builds. You will never be blamed for your choice.

But yea, if you want to stick in pve and try to beat raids, you will need the pew pew gear because of timers. I’m pretty sure Anet will nerf the first wings in a year or two so everyone can at least enjoy it. Good luck !

warbignime.4610:

Reddit does have negativity of course, but there are also positivity. Player help each other, guide, news, shout out, fan art.

And official forums don’t have community sub forums with art and more? Players helping players? Build, videos in class sub forums?

Agemnon.4608:

Nausicca.6038:

Remember guys, it’s a MMO, A MMO !
If you want to get gold, find a group and run GROUP content such as dungeons… ermmwhat? Oh my bad, it’s GW2.
Take your axe and go chop wood.

I’d rather do dungeons because they create gold instead of destroy it on TP taxes but dungeons aren’t worth it anymore except for mastery points for a one time deal or unlocking their PvP reward track. There’s actually a great thread topic there. Suggestion: Remove story mode for PvP reward track unlocks!

Definitly. HoT nerfed group content like dungeons and fractals ( until dec patch) but still, people are coming on these forums to tell solo players to group because it’s a MMO.
Yes, a MMO where you can get rich ( and make or buy ascended shinies) with the most solo brain dead boting activity: gathering.
Not group content.

Remember guys, it’s a MMO, A MMO !
If you want to get gold, find a group and run GROUP content such as dungeons… ermmwhat? Oh my bad, it’s GW2.
Take your axe and go chop wood.

ChrizZcE.5981:

Avigrus.2871:

You don’t need ascended, however I agree that it is far too expensive. An ascended armour set should cost a couple of hundred gold maximum.

good luck finding a raid group if you don´t have full ascended armor with the right stats + trinkets.

Even if you are in a guild they won´t want to take you if there is another player with full asc.

Because .5% makes a HUUUUUUUUUUGEEE difference. Lol @ those stubborn el33tists. For many of them apparently, having the credit card to buy ascended gear > skill.

Cursed Shore current rewards are charged core/lodestone and giant eye. Don’t lose your time with boring hoT content.
Dh+ lootstick + traps and you’re set.

I gave up on having fun in HoT areas. WvW is dead ( /cry ), but at least, elites are still fun.

briggah.7910:

Nausicca.6038:

briggah.7910:

Or you can do something productive like learn the maps.

And? If I want to learn empty maps, I’d go to TD. At least, I’d get loot from random events there.

Maybe your server is just dead.. I got loot last night in the fights I had in the new BL. I even did the dino pve event and there were 10+ players from each server there fighting for it.

Maybe you’re right. NA T4 is full of pvdoor heroes. But it was different before HoT. A lot different.
I spent my evening in our BL just to find a group of 6 and 3 or 4 solo roamers. Still better than a couple of days ago when I only found 1 necro across the 3 maps. At least EB is still active but I see less and less queues.
A month ago, guilds were AJing each others in front of our Bay. Now, it’s just dead.

briggah.7910:

Or you can do something productive like learn the maps.

And? If I want to learn empty maps, I’d go to TD. At least, I’d get loot from random events there.

Ardid.7203:

Lately I feel most people want all maps to be just a white plain without any obstacles, filled with static mobs that doesn’t aggro and die with just 1 hit.

Let me chop my wood in peace please. These useless mobs are boring anyway.

“OP, you’re not allowed to dislike the content because you click your skills.”

That’s a first. Congratulations.

Got hit myself by several 6-7k aa yesterday. My scrapper has 3.4k armor with adaptive armor.
Hammer AA is the new CoD Throwing knife.

I ran into 1 necro last evening ( T4 NA primetime) after fully roaming HoD and DB BL. That was great.
I’m glad EB only had a ~35 queue.

I’d like to enjoy the new BL but I’d rather have a basic map with more people than a beautiful and intricate no man’s land.

Anet doesn’t care about wvw balance.

warbignime.4610:

2)WVW is not empty, it’s simply because alot of players are still enjoying the pve content as well that new borderlands are so huge that it still feels empty even the server reached player cap.

Play this mode before claiming non sense on forums. WvW is a real disaster.

I try to WvW. I really really try. But I can’t play for more than 10 minutes. Last evening, I was so bored that I chose to roam in EotM. Something I didn’t do since the map release. And I quit again, 10 minutes later.
It’s either EB blobs or empty BL.
I can’t believe I paid 50$ for this.
Never more ANet.

No, Never. They killed WvW and my interest in this game.

Vayne.8563:

Or maybe because they actually do have to test changes, and making the changes puts it on a test server of some kind. They don’t make any changes to the main code without it going to a test server.

What you think some guy just edits this stuff on his lunch hour? lol

It’s probably super hard too to revert the drop rate to pre HoT’s one. They are not super heroes. They need to test stuff before releasing a patch full of bugs.

Please, be kind with them, it’s not like you spent money to play HoT… oh wait.

4/10 now.
-WvW is dead, and it was my favorite game mode.
-HoT maps are empty, meta are way to long and I’m tired of using lfg taxis for nothing because most of time, I only switch from a failing map to another.
-Gathering Wars 2 is killing the remaining love I still have for the game.
-Time to take a break.

I find Orr maps being a lot more active than HoT’s ones. And it’s 3 years old content.
And if I had to do meta events now, I’d chose Silverwastes without hesitation.

Why? It’s a lot faster and gives better rewards for the time invested. There are events EVERYWHERE on the map ( protect/upgrade keeps, escort yaks, random vet, ppl digging here and there, then breach and VW + maze).

BrettM.9062:

I can tell you to the day exactly how long it would take me to get 30 charged quartz for a full set of armor by my own harvesting efforts. I can’t tell you how long it would take me to get, say, 30 powerful blood for a full set of zerker armor from random loot drops, but I have no doubt it would take me longer than getting 30 charged quartz unless I was extremely lucky. Do you get 30 powerful blood or ancient bones or vicious fangs or any of the other rare mats in only one month?

So, what’s your complaint? Those who want insignia using quartz are sitting pretty compared to those who want insignia based on other rare mats. There’s no RNG involved.

I can tell you I need 30 sec to buy all the mats needed to make a zerker set.

Behellagh.1468:

Funny, I had fun there last night. And the night before. Now maybe that’s because all the players who took WvW super seriously aren’t around anymore? Don’t know.

WvW DBL was dead again last night. EBG queue was too long. So yep, such a great experience again.
And those auto upgrades…

Gaaroth.2567:

They are bundled in the base game but without hot we probly wouldn’t have new PvP and WvW map.

Yeah surely no content in HoT. Stop troll people.

HoT killed dungeons, fractals ( ok they will “fix” it but still).

HoT RUINED wvw.

HoT is full of empty maps. And don’t start with LFG, people are taxiing to empty maps with 0 organisation. This is getting boring pretty fast

And if you want to do collections, get ready for the bugfest ( precursor collections are a joke, 300 scribing for The Chosen? )

There is nothing to do except gathering stuff/grinding XP to unlock collections or upgrade your guild hall.

I wouldn’t mind if at least I could wvw like pre HoT. New DBL are real ghost towns. EBG has 50+ queue during NA prime time. That’s so so great, I love HoT really.

Gaaroth.2567:

I also guess you havent stepped in PvP or WvW?

WvW is dead. It was my favorite game mode. So yep I’m bored.
HoT content is all about gathering things to unlock collections to gather more things to unlock more collections. With a really amazing combat system, I can’t believe ANEt focused their extension on gathering stuff.
Raids might save the day, but since they also love stupid RNG and gold sinks, I don’t really believe in it.

And I don’t care about esports.

I start doing fractals out of boredom, because I’m tired of gathering wood or porting in dead hot maps.

50$ well invested :s